Are you ready?Artificial wombs for humans in five years.
>>43952909can't tell if thats an asian heighthon or a brown manlet or both
>landice gaookay yeah just a brown manlet
>>43952929they both look like troons to me but maybe I'm just wormed
>>43952978>>43952929Brainworm meds now, seriously.
>>43952909Hooray!
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>>43952909full term monkey baby
>>43952909what a day on ovarit that will be
>>4395314310mm x 10cm
>>43952909ain't no fucking way will it be considered ethical to try growing a baby in one of these things. imagine if there are birth defects and shit, ppl will be like>"see trans women care more about validating their fetish than the fate of their cronenburg children"
>>43952909yea ill believe that, if we multiply the estimate by 3x-10x then within 15 to 50 years sounds actually reasonable
>>43952909I don't want to get pregnant and neither does my girlfriend. We could keep working and have triplets in one go. Although, sadly, I think OP is being overly optimistic. It's not happening within the next 20 years.
>>43952909>we might finally be able to get rid of cisfoids for good HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>43953567>>43953444Oh yeah I completely agree, still cool to see where we're at.
>>43953590Delusional. As a cis woman, I'm thrilled, and I know for a fact plenty of women are going to jump at the opportunity. In truth, nobody wants to carry and birth a baby. It's just something that can't be avoided. We stopped cooking as much when shops became commonplace, and once artificial wombs become cheap, the majority of births will happen artificially. Some women will opt to carry their child anyway because woo woo, but humans as a whole tend toward optimization and streamlining. Artifical wombs will be seen as improvement, and they will set women free from the reproductive burden.
>>43953681ok cunt, didn't read. we will make our own offspring and genocide your entire sex, which has been long overdue anyway
>>43953681Yeah, but the artificial born won't be allowed into the kingdom of god and on Earth we will ostracise them and during the collapse they will be our servants.
>>43953434gotta sneak it through the "benefits for god's chosen victim gender" pipeline first, as always. it's how they're doing womb transplants currently
>>43953681>not wanting to carry a parasite that pushes your body far beyond its limits since evolution decided to bandaid the bipedal smol pelvis big head upgradegentlemen, this here woman is for the asylum, she probably doesn't even want udderly post-preggo hangers and wider hips
>>43953716Cope and seethe.>>43953717There will be some stigma for a couple of decades, but then the children born from artifical wombs will start having them own children and the world will stop caring. Like IVF.
>>43953681>they will set women free from the reproductive burden.that and pussy are the only things helping you avoid the average moid life. are you ready for the non-tutorial mode?
>>43953748Noooooo not the moid life. Lmao.
>>43953752average, not top 10%er
>>43953766You're a retard.
>>43953782You're face is a retard.
>>43953791>You'reHilarious.
>>43953808lol newfag
>>43953808Shut up you stupid fucking foid you aren't even worth my time
>>43952909When (cis) radfems tried to make artificial lesbian babies with bone marrow not only did literally everyone get mad it also produced abominations that died within hoursThis is gonna be exactly like that except the fallout from the controversy is gonna be 1000x worse and the babies are gonna be even less human lol
>>43953822Apparently I am. You know with artifical wombs you still have to parent the children, right? And we all know how well the average man is with parenting. We can expect a large percentage of lonely men having kids only to experience the sheer panic of having to face the real responsibility of parenthood. I'll be sat in the corner with a bucket of popcorn.
>>43952909Reproductive technology is far ahead what people are (arbitrarily) comfortable with. Once they market to billionaires that they can have 99.99% percentile IQ ubermensch babies the tech will get funded, especially if they cut out the embarrassing baby mama middleman. I wouldn't be surprised if reproductive tech was the next AI craze (unfortunately a lot of these companies are private).
>>43953849it's been studied that the children of single fathers typically have better outcomes than single mothers
>>43953883>single fathersYou mean raised by grandparents and aunts? Yeah, I've seen many children like that.
>>43953840Okay, so replicating the uterine environment is incredibly complex; there is only partial ectogenesis for extremely premature babies, rather than growing a fetus entirely from scratch. Apparently, the specific conditions and nervous systems are difficult to replicate due to fetal circulation. The lungs must remain fluid-filled, and oxygen and nutrients are delivered directly through catheters to the umbilical vessels, perfectly mimicking the placenta. Maintaining the precise biochemical and electrical environment required for fetal brain and nerve development is a major hurdle. Early models have struggled with maintaining correct cerebral blood flow, and issues like brain bleeding are a challenge in fetal medicine. The transition itself is also dangerous. The baby must be transferred from the mother into the fluid-filled biobag and have its umbilical cord attached to an artificial placenta within minutes to prevent oxygen deprivation and brain damage. It seems a bit far-fetched to say that we will reach a time where we can fully grow babies in artificial wombs in merely twenty years
>>43952909Bro we don't even have stem cells in reliable quantities because of moralfags. Artificial Wombs, as anything more than a science fair project are decades away. Amerimutts will literally chimp out and blow up anyone who tries.
>>43953716Good luck with that. An artificial womb isn’t an artificial egg generator. You still need human oocytes to make an embryo. If anything, male DNA is what's easier to replace. In vitro gametogenesis (IVG) research shows that engineering sperm is vastly easier than replicating human eggs, which require massive cellular machinery, mitochondria, and supportive follicle tissue. Tech bros aren't building a demographic weapon in a lab; they're trying to stop extreme preemies from dying of brain bleeds. Take your meds. Ironic that if anything, it gets rid of the need for people like you. Although, unlike you, I don't want to genocide an entire sex.
maybe i'm too new around these parts but seeing lh was a jumpscare. op i probably fucking saw you at this exact conference
>>43953681ShulapilledThis is a good thing for establishing greater equality but a lot of tradfems will be very angry because they see the only value in women being reproductive capacity.
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>>43953922fuck you sound so smart, that's hot
>>43953866Can't wait for AI cyborg babies with Grok Enhanced (tm) brains>Skip education! Skip parenting! Your child will be a doctor within 2 years!A cruelty squad-esque biopunk dystopia would be so much cooler than the generic 1984 one we have right now>>43953899That's honestly for the best, I know it's a cringe reddit opinion but humans should lowkey stop breeding Maybe I'll change my mind when i get on prog
>>43953748you are completely off base lmao, look at the time period we live in & compare it to our history>women freer, more respected, and more popular than they've ever been before>birth rates (and general demand for reproductive labour) lower than ever before>men less esteemed than ever beforeimo what this says is, the onus of reproductive labour has always made women poorer, not richer, and the existential demand for women's wombs is directly tied to the societal will to discriminate against them and keep them subduedonce reproductive labour is offloaded to technology, it's not men who are gonna capture the surplus; that's not how automation has ever panned out; the surplus escapes and gets diffused to everyone (we invented automatic looms for example but we don't have a limited group of companies with a cartel on cloth production; cloth is just so universally cheap that nobody thinks about it anymore)what will happen is, women will be freed from the biggest thing handicapping them in the modern workplace, and meanwhile men will lose their significance as the main financial provider since the 9 month disability that necessitates it has finally been cured; the last of the societal will to oppress women will evaporate, and men will get torn apart as interpersonal likeability becomes the new intrinsic trait valued in and of itselfin the end the reproductive prospects of the average moid will tank in a race to the floor, as there'll be no problem with one guy with good genes selling his sperm and fertilising 50 wombs at once; women can be a lot more superficial about whose sperm they accept if it doesn't chain them down for 9 months and make them dependent on the man that dribbled it outbasically, artificial wombs won't make cis women obsolete; it will take away affirmative action for moids and, ironically, put the final nail in the coffin for chuddies
>>43954004>the surplus escapes and gets diffused to everyone>affirmative action for moidslollmao even
>>43954004I had to do a double take at the flag because this is a terrifyingly accurate cis woman's perspective. You soulpass.
>>43954038Same, I'm a radical feminist, and I thought he was one of us he would be one of the trans people that I could tolerate desu. Got to admit that he is well versed on this topic
>>43954004Nice wishful thinking
>>43954004The ideal outcome would also be for the systems put in place to offset patriarchy to wither away alongside patriarchy, but I'm skeptical that will happen. There will *always* be a contingent of people fighting to maintain intentional inequalities after the system the inequalities were introduced to combat withers away. See stuff like WASPI.
>>43954113yeah i don't think it'll be a sudden radical liberation scenario desu, this is on the scale of generationsthe difference between sex and race inequalities though is races are geographically local, so they're physically tied to economic gradients which are also geographically laid; it's not intrinsically profitable to discriminate against brown people for example it's just profitable for a local ingroup to discriminate against any outgroups; but this falls apart more quickly with sex because a woman can be born anywhere, anytime, into any socioeconomic niche, whereas a brown person can'ti mean they won't be born directly into the boardrooms and the old boys' clubs obviously, but they'll be born into rich, connected families one step away from the seats of power, which is a lot closer than it's possible for any, like, black person or venezuelan to spawn in
>>43954004>the surplus escapes and gets diffused to everyoneAs stupid as believing in blank slate, sorry
>>43954170nevermind reading comprehension fail lmao okay you were talking about the opposite, activist special interest groupsi don't have a take on that at the moment since i should have gone to bed hours ago; i'd have to think about former inequalities that *have* fully gone away (imo most race and sex inequalities have not, even if we declare them so on paper) and look at the track record for how long it took those advocacy groups to fade
>>43954029>>43954198i gave you an example but it's really not hard to verify for yourself, there will be plenty more examplles if you lookif you remove scarcity through automation then you can't charge the premiums associated with scarcity; nobody can and there won't be the money for anybody to maintain a cartel over it& if you're banking on moid solidarity to save the day then like,lollmao
>>43953681>In truth, everyone has the same opinion as me!Sure, hun.
>>43952909Pipedream most likely and even if it becomes real only the ruling class will have access.
>>43954514Bored cismoid billionares will try it for fun. Then whoever's baby looks tastiest gets their baby eaten at the monthly pedocannibalism meeting
>>43952909And fusion power is only ten years away!
>>43954731>another scientist dies under suspicious circumstances
>>43954029I thought my thai beekeeping forum was safe from the daily punching down on amab routine but here we are
>>43954227>there won't be the money for anybody to maintain a cartel over it>what is capital-intensive, high barriers to entry and collusionmy niggy you a bit sheltered if you're not aware of all the counterexamples where the surplus is very effectively captured by the incumbentsI wasn't expecting much in terms of actual education from fem supremacists, but even this is disappointing
>>43952909This thread is /tttt/ at it's most delusional
>>43954781>pica lot is, but not all. TPTB get pretty dumb sometimes, rags to rags in 3 generations etc>punching down on amabs routineit's a common cope for some trans girls to veer into misandry, due to shitty past experiences or falling for the feminism koolaidit's no biggie, nobody takes them seriously anyway
>>43953434We already have in-vitro fertilization and lab-frozen eggs and sperm, anon. If the core of your argument is something something feelings something something morals, we crossed both of those lines a long, long time ago when we ditched the religion angle.
>>43954004>The final nail in the coffin for chuddiesFor feminists, actually. Access to reproductive labor and sex are pretty much the only reasons men put up with women thinking they need rights. We're a couple decades from sex bots and artificial wombs, after those happen women functionally have no value. They're useless as soldiers, useless as workers, just nice to look at - but the sex bot will never bitch at you and the artificial womb won't require a pre-nup to protect your assets so we can go back to women not having any rights or social standing with relative ease.
>>43953681actual trutrans brood mother herei will happily bare everyone's children I deem worthy.i will protect the children.gluttonous heathens that dare violate the sanctity of the womanhood shall be tossed into the heaps of our mcchicken wrappers for she is hateful and rejects her holy light of life
>>43953681this post is too good for 4chan. all the people sperging out about this know nothing about pregnancy or women's bodies. pregnancy is DEVESTATING to your body and kills lots of people.
>>43954827let's be clear now, the premise is "women are rent seeking using their wombs and we men can harvest their losses for ourselves"and even if you grant that having a womb is a net asset rather than a net liability (lmao), the "pharma cartel" is completely orthogonal to this; they will have their own intra-industry competition concerning the technological implementationinfertile women will be the first to have access to the technology and all the rest of women shortly after, long before a man can even dream of becoming a single father through onethere will be no broad dividend paid out to resentful moids no matter how you slice it>>43954914absolutely delulu
