>>44208976
god assigns good souls the afab bodies and the evil souls the amab ones. pooners are devils that snuck into heaven but aren't built for it so they return to their evil rapist ways.

>>44209023
>pooners are devils that snuck into heaven but aren't built for it so they return to their evil rapist ways.
if the reverse is true for amabs then a lot more makes sense right now -

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>>44208976
I wish I could be in an afab

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>>44208976
the vast majority of afabs don't look like that

>>44208976
Stop watching porn

>>44208976
Me too, but I wouldn't want to look like an Thai prostitute.

>>44209484
The vast majority of cis women *could* look like ops image if they tried to though

>>44209484
If she lost weight and put in the effort she could, as most women could, but no matter what i do i can't.

>>44208976
Why would you want to be the weaker sex?

>>44208976
i wish i was an afab so fucking much

>>44208976
Speak for yourself dawg, I wanted to kill myself since puberty

>>44211823
i wish we could trade honestly would be nice if mtfs and ftms could just do some brain swap surgery instead of transitioning

>>44208976
That’s how I feel about amabs.

>itt: 4tran discovers the concept of “the grass is greener on the other side”

>>44211899
kys onegaishimasu

>>44211899
You must be new.

Wow so lucky to for half the world to treat you as less than human, so lucky to be at constant risk of sexual assault and unwanted advances. Sooo lucky cause omg they have soo many rights and privileges right. Retard.

>>44211915
the entire world treats me as less than human, that'd be a improvement you retard

>>44208976
I wish I were afab but I hate being asian

>>44212506
Skill issue

>>44212842
If anyone ever realizes i'm a tranny its over, and they'll treat me in the same way they treat every hon in existence.

I'm not immune to the consequences of society simply because i can temporarily hide from prejudice, there are always things which could remove me from stealth.

>>44209023
Retard really thinks mtf trannies have it better than cis foids

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Is this afab worthy? 5,10 140 pounds btw

>>44209484
i love when people say this lol because they can if they fucking lose weight which for some reason afabs and cishet men refuse to do

>>44212520
The pic is completely unrelated to my post

>>44208976
It's funny that you guys call females afabile (soft, gracious, benign, debonair) and males amabile (friendly, kind, gentle, sweet)

>>44208976
Honey we all want to be female

>>44208976
Females are human. Males are not even complete human beings. The y chromosome is an incomplete and deformed x chromosome. That's why males are more like apes than females, the incomplete male chromosome is why males are emotionally very limited + far less sensible and comprehensive than females. Males got a built-in inferiority complex and are always trying to compensate for not being female by pulling some lousy stunts.

>>44208976
i hate you fuckers for taking your male bodies for granted. the female body is a weak, pathetic prison, i would kill to be you

>>44211899
niggas say that when your neighbor's lawn is pristine, green, with nary a weed in sight, while yours is infested with crabgrass, anthrax, and is half brown
it is greener fuck you

>>44214074
There's nothing good about having a male body, absolutely nothing

>>44211915
Who gives a fuck, I would rather be afab regardless

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Notice how trannies never want to be your average woman. They always post insta thots and shooped cosplayers as inspo.

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>>44214074
I live every day in hell bc im forced to be 6 2 amab. im very weak and shy and anxious but since im amab u prob see me as a hulking rapist. i hope u get in a terrible car accident and die

>>44214587
i'm in my 20's, i want to look like my mom in her 20's. When i'm 65 i'll be just fine looking like granny there.

>>44215876
>65
She's barely 50, just fat.

>>44214377
>far greater strength
>greater speed and stamina
>no periods
>no possibility of having to give birth or be pregnant
>etc

fuck you

>>44215082
why would i see you as a rapist?? i said you’re lucky retard

>>44216611
I wish I had periods
Strength and speed are barely relevant

>>44216611
the first two are retarded and irrelevant in the lives of most men, stop deriving your worth from "me zoom and lift big heavy object"
no periods is fair enough at least

>>44214377
Male physical strength combined with being naturally unburden from periods and the possibility of becoming pregnant are huge advantages of the male body. Females have it better only on the emotional / sentimental / spiritual / psychological realms, definitely not on physicality.

>>44216706
>Strength and speed are barely relevant
People who say this are all under 20 and/or sheltered little flowers of no import. As soon as you start to exercise control of you life, you realize that physical strength and speed are EXTREMELY relevant. Congrats on outing yourself as an inert amoeba, I guess.

>>44211888
How the hell could you want to be a dirty hairy gorilla over an angelic being with captivating beauty? I just don’t understand it.

>>44216798
Holy shit. You want to be a woman, right? Then why are you looking at yourself from an outsider's perspective, and an aroused one at that? This is so dehumanizing desu.

>>44216723
it’s not about worth as a human being. i think males and females are equal in intrinsic worth as a people (because it’s not derived from anything physical). it’s about me being trapped inside of a weaker, lesser body. female bodies were designed for the sole purpose of bearing children and nothing else. if i don’t want that then it’s basically rendered useless. i want my body to actually be built for insurance and survival. i hate that basically any cismoid could just do whatever he wants to me and i probably wouldn’t be able to stop him. i hate this fucking life

>>44216936
*endurance
whoops

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>>44216798
>an angelic being with captivating beauty

>>44216585
My mom has looked like that since around 42. I'm just fine with looking like a very mature middle aged woman when i'm at that age, until that i want to look like my place and generation.

>>44216611
poon spotted

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>>44216798
>an angelic being with captivating beauty

>>44214587
i would, the average woman (or man, for that matter) just doesn't take care of themselves, especially here in muttland where obesity is one of our national pastimes

>>44216965
tbf women are definitely more beautiful than men in general. if you took the most beautiful woman on earth along with the most beautiful man everyone would agree the woman looks better. it’s just how it is

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>>44217008
cope. what you're looking at is a normal woman who lives a regular life.
the hot, smooth milf influencers are extreme outliers and use heavy filters.

>>44217008
>doesn't take care of themselves
To the modern human, this means masturbating at the gym. Meanwhile, what caring of yourself actually is can be boiled down to
>wash your body
>wash your clothes
>avoid sickness
>eat well
>sleep well
>shit well
>have children to continue your bloodline
Beauty doesn't even begin to factor into the equation. In fact, if you're stick thin and pretty past 25, you probably didn't have kids and don't eat well. Both detrimental to actual survival outside of your air conditioned apartment block.

>>44216611
You're just gatekeeping the female gender for your own benefit

>>44216611
>Less social trust
>Less societal value
>No public empathy or support systems, stigmatized if one is sought or created.
>No tolerance of sexual deviancy by current moral systems
>Courts side against you over children and family rights
>Transgender Women are killed in the streets and you get to star in Hollywood movies with only the slightest bit of mockery but not actual hatred.

Check your privilege, afab scum

>>44216723
>I'm really lazy, and everyone else should be too, otherwise their retarded
If this guy's an AMAB I'm also going to add blissful ignorance and cathartic rage to the list of male advantages

>>44217064
That woman is literally obese, she's over 30 bmi, probably closer to 35.

Obesity being more common than being healthy in many countries doesn't make it normal. Nor is it coping to know that is not the natural shape of human bodies.

>>44217166
Are you retarded? She's not overweight.
>Nor is it coping to know that is not the natural shape of human bodies.
You sound like an astroturfing TERF making trannies appear worse than they are.
Go outside. Preferably to the beach or sauna.

>>44217166
anon, be honest. are you anorexic?

>>44217216
>she's not overweight
>literally staring at 30 to 35bmi body
you are delusional and clearly not worth the air you breath. Literally try removing your head from your lardass butthole and stop coping.

>>44217113
what the fuck are you talking about?? i don’t want to be female, i’ve made that abundantly clear

>>44217336
Then why gatekeep it?

>>44217122
all bullshit and also irrelevant to what i’m talking about. i don’t give a fuck about social aspects i just want my body to work properly

>>44217242
I'm normal, a bit hefty but normal, i take a some care of my body and diet, but i'm not obsessive anymore, no longer capable of upkeeping it since i got a bit heftier.

Upside of being on the upper range of normal were the bigger tits.
https://litter.catbox.moe/m93iphl9uaxrm8zc.png

also >>44217064 thats clearly 30bmi+, and well over 35% body fat, probably in the 40% range

>>44217345
i’m not. i’m saying you fuckers are taking your maleness for granted and acting like we’re the lucky ones. i don’t give a shit if you’re trans

>>44217369
Maleness is a strict disadvantage. Being born female is amazing and it takes real luck for that to happen to you specifically

It's really funny how afab is just a progressive euphemism for real women :DDD

>>44217122
>No public empathy or support systems, stigmatized if one is sought or created.

nobody would be upset at you making a support system for men as long as it’s not just constantly shitting on women (which is what 99% of them are.) why are moids always complaining that nobody cares about them when it’s the system they themselves are upholding? do you expect women to do all the work for you? women had to fight tooth and nail for every right they have and here you are whining about the system that moids fucked up and never bothered changing. go to hell

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>>44217386
kek

>>44217381
you would never say that if you were born female

>>44217399
>women had to fight
men don't work together for a common goal like that and they will never ever do that, so it is expected that women will at least take correct opinions and support them actively regardless of whether there's active lobbying for it or not

>>44217443
skill issue. women aren’t your mommies, do it yourself or shut the hell up and cope retard

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Reminder.

>>44216862
AGPs are bizarre freak fetishists

>>44217355
> i don’t give a fuck about social aspects
You would if you were male. Being strong and not having periods is utterly worthless if no one treats you like a human being.

>>44217463
so you admit that being a woman is better then? women don't have to cope like that

>>44217399
>nobody would be upset at you making a support system for men as long as it’s not just constantly shitting on women (which is what 99% of them are.)
A guy tried to do male only suicide shelters in Canada and feminists + the government bullied him into suicide.
>why are moids always complaining that nobody cares about them when it’s the system they themselves are upholding?
It's not a (cultural) system, but immutable biology. That's like a youngster asking for his inheritance from a selfish boomer parent that doesn't give one shit about him. You can't make him care just as much as you can make society care about mens issues.

>>44217407
Ive had women try to do this to me online and my response is usually, "My sister, mother, and 51% of the world population also have Vaginas, congrats?"

>>44217365
>thats clearly 30bmi+
It's clearly isn't. A non-athletic woman looks kinda fat at 24 or 25 bmi already. You're being blindsided by some normal cellulite. She barely even has a belly.

>>44217481
in some aspects maybe, but like i said only because women fought tooth and nail for centuries and continue to fight and advocate for our sisters. moids just whine and piss themselves over the system that they set up and continue to uphold and expect women to fix it for them. do it yourself faggot

>>44217421
Yes, I would. Why say this shit if you're not gatekeeping the cis female life? It's clear that you don't want any person born male to become a cis woman even if that was possible.

>>44216948
The female body is built for survival more than the male body for that matter. Without females there is no species. Males are expendable.

>>44217518
it’s actually 49% due to female infanticide in china and india, also male babies are born more, women just live longer

>>44217526
oh i’d love it for you to become cisfem so you can eat your words within a year

>>44217520
You are retarded, looking non athletic doesnt make your body be of that size nor fat content you retard. I know what a sedentary woman at 25bmi looks like, i love one, and also most of my family are in that range, some are even larger and not one tiny bit athletic and don't look even close to pic.

>>44217554
Retard we are trannies, we already suffer every downside without any of the ups.

My life would be infinitely better if i didn't grow up a tranny being bullied in school, into a tranny who's unsafe in adulthood if i'm clocked even for a second.

>>44217554
Literally every passing FtM says the male experience is misreable as hell.

>>44217386
Womanhood is a social status for females that have earned adulthood in our society, as is manhood. This is why the vast majority of languages have different terms for adults and children, this is not based on sexual development either clearly since it can be an insult to refer to a young woman or young man as a boy or girl respectively and its why all tribal and even a lot of modern cultures have brutal rites for when they view a child as having graduated to adulthood. Quincineras, bat Mizvahs, etcs....

You would never describe a ten year old male as a man, or a ten year old female as a woman.

>>44217554
I'd love it too
>eat your words
Not gonna happen no matter what happens

>>44217521
The truth is that men are not going to change — they can't change — so women don't have to waste our time trying to get men to change any more. We are the ones who must change, because we can. And when we change, everything outside us will have to change to accommodate our new way of being in the world — including men, but that's beside the point.

>>44217521
>moids just whine and piss themselves over the system that they set up and continue to uphold
so the system set up by women would increase the social trust and social value of men to the same level as that of women?

>>44217531
Males are not expendable. Females can die during childbirth and are 10x worse at fighting off threats so nature doesn't give a fuck whether they die as long as some kids are born. What you call the male expandability is just men going to war against each other. It's not inherent to the male anatomy.

>>44217534
This still doesn't make having a vagina special at all, anon. Sociology and scale of society doesn't even value women more as reproducers anymore, hence why lots of nations have started drafting or proposed drafting women into the military. We are all equally worthless, and your value to society is no longer your ability to breed but your ability to pay taxes- so save the debate for the nobility who really run the world and get back to work, wageslave.

>>44217573
That's true for men, but really not for women.

>>44217531
This hasn't been true since like 1800, modern nation states have extreme populations and don't give a fuck about if you are a breeder or a seeder. We are all just tax payers to the state.

>>44217594
The mental gymnastics women go through to avoid admitting they are born into privilege...

>>44217613
*afabs

>>44217600
AMAB poster for sure.
Why would womanhood ceremonies exist in tribal cultures along with multiple unrelated modern cultures if womanhood is not also an earned social status?

>>44217526
It's nobody's fault that you are male. Not even your father (even though he gave his y-chromosome that make you male he didn't had control over this fact). Stop whining to people in this pathetic attempt to guilt-trip them over something they are not guilt at all.

>>44208976
>Cosplaying in my mansion that the internet incels purchased for me
This is why women aren't marrying or having kids. It's easier to milk sexless men for money

>>44217613
>no counterarguments spotted

>>44217242
that woman is obese. most people don't desire that.

>>44217613
There are privileges and downsides to both genders, the issue is media demagogues only talk about male privileges and never male issues. Its some commie plot to make women sympathetic to left wing politics, and god damn its worked.

Dont blame afabs who don't get it, its not their fault, their ignorance has been trained into them since girlhood. Women are also trained to fear men to keep them from empathizing with men as well, hence why we get women who think they'd be safer in the woods with a bear than with a man.

>>44217628
It is afabs fault if they're not willing or against me becoming a cis woman also

>>44217643
see
>>44217676
You posted too soon, faggot chud.

>>44217679
You are insane. That's not even a possibility. Get a grip on reality, crazy man.

>>44217621
A girl becomes a women by having her first period, or being paired off to a man shortly thereafter which is purely a function of time rather than skill.

For a boy to become a man is a qualitative change from someone passive to someone active, capable of violence and taking on responsibility. And since this requires a minimum about of skill it's not the same at all.
>>44217643
You say females are expendable since they *can* die from childbirth, but men who are designed and expected to kill and die in wars is somehow no proof of expendability at all. Ridiculously biased reasoning.

>>44217690
I didn't say it's possible, I'm saying if they're against the concept of it (if it was possible), they're the problem

>>44217594
who cares about nature?? the social field is everything, i don't give a single fuck about natural aspects
>men going to war against each other
not by their own choice

>>44217676
>both sides
So sick of hearing that. Males are simply treated worse across the board and we have nothing to show for it. Strength, resilience or whatever else you think of are hollow qualities whose only purpose is to make us into better slaves before we're wrung out and discarded.

>>44217594
Who do you think take care of children? Women's work in maintaining life does not end, very much different than men that can simply die after ejaculating.

>>44217696
so a 9 year old girl is a woman once she gets her period?

>>44217751
Nta. In many cultures now, and in all pre-Christian cultures: yes, precisely. Biology.

>>44217751
No, but the transition from girl to women is still strictly a function of time no matter how you look at it though. There is no rite or ritual that a girl could *fail* which would prevent her from becoming a women.

>>44217762
would it not be more fair to say that a girl reaches womanhood once she stops physically growing (aka around wisdom tooth age?)

Fuck all afabs, they're pieces of shit

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>>44217730
What the worst thing that happened to you, anon?

>>44217788
Being amab

>>44217593
maybe, who knows. this is off topic through, the real question is why do you expect women to do everything for you?

>>44217798
And how did that hurt you?

>>44217730
Males receive more public and professional respect than women, its harder for a woman to advance her career in most fields than it is for a man. Women often face legal challenges males don't even consider, such as being denied sterility operations unless a father, brother, or husband consents. As rare as this seems, its more common than you think even in developed countries. Women also face higher rates of domestic abuse, are easier victims due to physicality, and more sexualized, and dont even have bodily autonomy in some areas where abortion has been banned.

Also outside of developed countries being a woman is actual horror tier, you would never choose to be a woman instead of a man in a third world country.

Also being an unnattractive women instantly disqualifies you from almost all of the significant advantages you're thinking of, its a legitimate argument that men who focus on women's advantages in society are giving into the male bias of only seeing attractive women.

Being an attractiveness woman has actually no benefits outside of favor in divorce court and more social tolerance for emotional weakness.

If after your next one night stand you were faced with a pregnancy and told youd have to endure the lifechanging experience of pregnancy and chilbirth and were facing murder charges if you tried to abort, even if it was early on, even if you fled to another state, you'd stop thinking women have it so great.

>>44217809
Being an unattractive woman has actually no benefits outside of favor in divorce course and more social tolerance for emotional weakness*

>>44217799
i don't necessarily expect anyone to do anything, i want to be a woman and therefore be on the winning side and not face male issues

>>44217810
if you’re only transitioning because you think being a woman is easier then you’ve got a biiiggg storm coming

>>44217824
that's not even what i said

>>44217779
Fairness is a narrow concept for those who can afford it. Historically, a girl who menstruates is a younf woman and can be married off, and then she loses her virginity and becomes a woman fully.

>>44217521
So you want advantages and benefits for your own class of afabs, but not for anyone who didn't get lucky enough to be afab?

>>44217381
>being born female is amazing
i hope you wake up in the body of a muslim thirdie woman who has an arranged marriage with her uncle you piece of shit

>>44217399
Female support systems shit on men constantly though?

>>44217841
Isn't having your value historically be based on your viability as a sexual object actually a horrific downside to womanhood, though?

Isnt it much better to instead be valued and evaluated based on your personal accomplishments as a professional or warrior?

>>44217841
and you agree with this?

>>44217806
First thing they did to me was mutilate my genitals which is the worst thing you could possibly do to someone and which doesn't happen to afabs. Since then i've been abused and neglected by almost every authority figure which watched over me. Now i'm expected to slave away 8 hours a day 5 days a week for the next 60 years of my life to fund the lifestyle of people who, at best, don't give a shit about me at all.
>>44217809
>Males receive more public and professional respect than women
I don't think that talking point has been true since 1980 at least.
> its harder for a woman to advance her career
Genuinely insulting level of gaslighting. I've been told firsthand by people in my industry that a women with any amount of skill is to be considered before me over and over again since age 8.
> Women often face legal challenges
You're just blatantly lying. Women recieve lighter punishments for the same crimes.
> such as being denied sterility operations unless a father, brother, or husband consents
That's cute they cut part of my dick off without painkillers when i was a baby though.
>Women also face higher rates of domestic abuse, are easier victims due to physicality
Domestic abuse by women simply isn't recorded or taken seriously which cooks the stats.
>more sexualized
That's a privilege compared to have not being sexualized at all.
> some areas where abortion has been banned
Bohoo they're not ever conscripting you.
>If after your next one night stand you were faced with a pregnancy and told youd have to endure the lifechanging experience of pregnancy and chilbirth and were facing murder charges if you tried to abort, even if it was early on, even if you fled to another state, you'd stop thinking women have it so great.
Lmfao man. Of course a fucking one night stand complication is the be all end all of suffering. Women are so fucking lucky to think that's their biggest concern in life.

>>44217866
Beats being male, you can take your subhuman male gender with you

>>44217932
I understand that the concept of Things Existing Regardless Of What You Think Of Them is unpopular on this board, but come on.

>>44217862
when did i say that?? i said you fuckers are sniveling retards that just whine and whine instead of actually changing anything for the better. women did it themselves by fighting will all their might. what do you do? you get on 4chan and whine some more about how you wish you were afab because you think that would fix your issues

>>44217958
the concept exists, sure. but is it biologically or morally correct? no

>>44217933
Interesting. And among all these things, which one would you say hurt you the most?

>>44217933
Genital mutiliation does happen to Afabs and female circumcision is far more horrendous, but I will concede that male circumcision being legal in any modern western nations is a legitimate mens right issue.

The fact remains, if you were in a muslim country you genitals would be far more mutilated to the point where you couldnt have an orgasm or even feel sexual pleasure. Imagine if instead of chopping off the foreskin, they copped off the head of your penis.

I nrever said domestic abuse by women didnt exist but even the most staunch MRA must concede that women are the more prevelant victims and are physically helpless to men.

Being sexualized is not something youd consider a prize if you got raped, I think your attitude might change after a prison stay in addition to your HIV status.

Women are being added to drafts in many nations and mandatory military service does extend to women in most countries that have mandatory military service.

Women do not have bodily autonomy, you do. The fact that you marginalize reproduce issues is in fact, a male privledge. You'd consider it far differently if you too could be involuntarily impregnated and forced by the state to carry your abusers child to term.

Ultimately, you dont understand the curse that beauty confers because youve never been sexually assaulted, and dont acknowledge that women who arent beautiful receive almost none of these benefits but all of the drawbacks.

>wahh women have it easier
Translation:
>I'm retarded so I want to be a prostitute. A successful one at that, and to magically never get abused, and for my rich husband to pay for my upkeep. I completely disregard the majority of women because they either aren't prostitutes at all - or sad, unsuccessful ones. They don't fit my fantasy so fuck 'em. If they were smart, they would be successful prostitutes. I am so high IQ.

>>44218020
BTW prostitution being illegal is mostly a womans issue and forces sex workers to be easy victims for criminals and the state. If heterosexual men could make money slinging dick then they would legalize and regulate it instantly.

>>44213036
Nigga ur fat

>>44218044
>sex workers
You mean trafficking victims?

>>44218017
>male circumcision being legal in any modern western nations is a legitimate mens right issue
and it will never be unlawful

>>44208976
Why are the walls so bare? Does she rent the house and have no taste?

>>44218049
I am a sex worker.
I am not a trafficking victim.

If man may sell his body by becoming a soldier, why should not woman be able to sell her body by becoming a whore?

>>44218090
>equating military service and whoring

>>44218106
>Implying they aren't

>>44217975
>women did it themselves
So what?
>what do you do?
I'm not a woman unfortunately
>when did i say that?
If you weren't as I said you were, you would support amabs becoming women for any reason

>>44217399
Literally anytime men have tried it that shit got shut down and was shunned out of the mainstream for being problematic.

>>44218132
whores don't normally kill people, anon

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>>44217933
>which doesn't happen to afabs

FGM is far worse and in some countries upwards of 90% of females have it. it also typically happens without anesthesia when they’re around 4-6 so they tie these little girls down and irreversibly mutilate their genitals while they’re wide awake and screaming. boohoo your life is so hard as a western amab.

>>44218162
Whores are usually affiliated with gangs and also spread disease, yes, they absolutely do kill people. Probably at the same rate of modern soldiers, since most modern military just sit around a base not actually doing anything in modern nations.

>>44218152
and i just explained why that is, didn’t i?

>>44218017
>Genital mutiliation does happen to Afabs
Not anywhere civilized.
>The fact remains, if you were in a muslim country you genitals would be far more mutilated to the point where you couldnt have an orgasm or even feel sexual pleasure. Imagine if instead of chopping off the foreskin, they copped off the head of your penis.
I already can't have an orgasm and neither do i feel sexual pleasure because of my mutilation. The fact that society deems this to be a grave sin, except only when it happens to women is the most clear cut proof of female privilege there possibly could be.
>even the most staunch MRA must concede that women are the more prevelant victims and are physically helpless to men
Impossible to verify since, again, violence against men isn't taken seriously so there are no accurate stats. Women can also just call the cops and have the state commit violence on their behalf. Granted this isn't possible in the heat of the moment, but still.
>Being sexualized is not something youd consider a prize if you got raped
That's just catastrophizing. In your regular day to day life being seen as sexually attractive is yet another privilege that you take for granted.
>Women are being added to drafts in many nations
Maybe on paper, but no one will enforce that and you know it.
>Women do not have bodily autonomy, you do.
Fuck you. Nobody expects you to work your entire life on others behalf which is the biggest violation of bodily autonomy there is. You have complete agency over who you associate with and even the most deepred conservative bastions recognize abortions in case of rape. Outside our current dogshit economy you always have the option of opting out of the workplace and be a stay at home mother. Literally one of the biggest privileges any human can have. You might as well be part of the aristocracy.
>Ultimately, you dont understand the curse that beauty confers
Genuinely go fuck yourself. "Just let them eat cake" kind of BS

>>44218169
Why bring up african countries?

>>44217399
so you're not allowed to complain about women when women themselves can complain about men in the mainstream?

>>44218188
>Impossible to verify since, again, violence against men isn't taken seriously so there are no accurate stats. Women can also just call the cops and have the state commit violence on their behalf. Granted this isn't possible in the heat of the moment, but still.

Got him arguing in bad faith right there, he knows its true but wont admit it.


The only way women can opt out of the workplace is if they become a mans domestic slave.
I hope you one day do get raped so you can understand the curse of beauty and realize the error of your ways- or die quickly of AIDS before you can spread you bogus rhetoric that even you know is a lie.

>>44218196
because i can’t stand western men acting like their life is so hard and throwing pity parties for themselves. also this doesn’t just happen in africa, it’s also prevalent in some parts of asia, the middle east, oceania, and south america.

>>44218169
>FGM is far worse
ok? it's ultimately the same type of thing as male circumcision, but the latter is not treated as a bad thing literally anywhere, literally
no one gives a fuck about it, no one tries to stop it, etc

>>44218226
anon you’re so based come kiss me on my hot mouth

>>44218229
And you think what people think in the west doesn't matter?

>>44218237
There are literally no defenders of male circumcision in this thread, only abrahamic cultists believe in it so if you want to end it work with Atheist and Satanic groups to end state sponsorship of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

Let me guess though, you're a christian omegakek

>>44214587
almost everyone wants to be hot
this is normal and good and we should encourage it. ugliness is a tragic outcome and ugly people deserve help to fix it.

>>44218240
You dont want that, Im a troon.

>>44218255
where did i say anything about this thread? by "literally anywhere" i meant countries
>Let me guess though, you're a christian
no, i'm not religious at all

>>44218237
>ok? it's ultimately the same type of thing as male circumcision

lol. lmao even.

you could maybe argue it was the same if they just cut off the labia minora after birth or something but all forms of fgm include cutting/burning off the clitoris. imagine having your full dick chopped off as a screaming child, possibly dying from the wounds and/or infection that follow, but maybe if you’re lucky you’ll survive with severely mutilated genitals and never being able to have an orgasm or sexual pleasure.

>>44218226
>Got him arguing in bad faith right there, he knows its true but wont admit it.
My guess on female vs male domestic violence victims would be 40/60, maybe even 50/50. It's simply a true that moderate domestic violence from women towards their husbands is not taken seriously at all.
>The only way women can opt out of the workplace is if they become a mans domestic slave.
"""domestic slave""" just stfu. No fixed working hours, no hard labour due to modern household machinery, no equivalency to wageslavery at all. How the fuck are you a """"""""slave"""""""" at all compared to the guy who has to wake up at 5am every fucking day? You aren't stfu.
>I hope you one day do get raped
I did get raped actually when i was a little boy. As fucking if only girls can be raped. Go fuck yourself you stupid vapid entitled privileged bitch.

>>44218268
i don’t care you’re one of the based ones

>>44218278
so now you're trying to say that the fact that nobody thinks male circumcision is bad is fine actually or that it's not a big deal so you don't have to care about it, ok

>>44218299
Anon most women do have to work up at 5am to go to work.
I do
My sister does
My aunt does
My cousins do
My room-mate does
My friends wives do.

The only women who dont are ones who concede their liberty to a man by giving upn their economic ability, and evenn that has become a privledge of the wealthy in this shithole socialist hellscape we blame on the capitalism that freed the baby boomers.

Also I don't believe you, a rape victim would never see being sexually desirable as an inherent boon.

And Im an AMAB troon, btw. Flattered you gendered my text as cisfem tho

>>44218278
I literally can't have an orgasm or recieve sexual pleasure and didn't recieve painkillers during the procedure and the operation is 100% legal in this and any other "civilized" country, but only for boys.

>>44218314
it is bad, i agree. if i ever have a son i will never get him circumcised, but this circles back to my point. why don’t you fight against this? why do you get mad at women for these things when this is a male tradition? stop expecting women to fight for your issues first (because i know you’ve never fight for women’s issues) and actually DO something about it. protest, rally, fucking burn shit down until it’s illegal. stop being a pussy

>>44217954
you think being stripped of your entire personhood because you were born with a vagina beats being male? ok retard

>>44218352
never heard of anorgasmia in males after circumcision but i’ll take your word for it. that sucks, i agree that circumcision is bad. why dontcha do something about it instead of whining on 4chan?

>>44218306
Im flattered, tell me you're a 6ft chad with a 6pack and a steady job.

>>44218365
i'm only mad that you're trying to pass it off as if fgm being illegal is not a female privilege
>why don’t you fight against this?
amabs don't fight for male rights and it's not going to ever be a thing
>actually DO something about it
i'm not gonna do it, besides i want to be a woman

>>44208976
okay this is unrelated but why is house in picrel so empty? there is no furniture or pictures or painting or carpets or anything why is the house so bland?

>>44218351
>Anon most women do have to work up at 5am to go to work.
Mainly because we're in a recession and so they don't have a choice. Yet women are still societally allowed to be stay at home mothers.
> concede their liberty to a man by giving upn their economic ability
Meaningless buzzwords. In reality wives have a greater say in how household money get's spend than the husbands who earn it. This is basically on par with owning private capital or being an aristocrat with a fiefdom.
>a rape victim would never see being sexually desirable as an inherent boon
It wasn't a violent and i was too young to understand what was happening so it wasn't exactly traumatic. In any case i think my irreversible genital mutilation is a hundred times worse since that will stay with me until death unlike a one-time experience one can process and overcome.

>>44208976
AFABs suck.

>>44218382
There is nothing that can be done about it.

>>44218406
>i want to be a woman
misogynistic mra retards who seethe at the female sex shouldn't want to be women

>>44218389
sad to tell you i’m a 5’3 cisfem who works at a coffee shop. hope you find your chad

>>44218452
on what basis did you determine me to be misogynistic? you are then misandristic if you think men have it better

>>44218406
>amabs don't fight for male rights and it's not going to ever be a thing
skill issue. that’s all that can be said about that

>>44218479
>that’s all that can be said about that
well it's not me that keeps asking about it for some reason

>>44218479
It's not a skill issue. Humanity is just fundamentally gynocentric. "Brb protesting to change sexual dimorphism"

All I see in this thread is that ultimately Afabs are against males wanting to be female, so there's no point in supporting pooners and similar afab people

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>>44218426
Tl;dr google what a streamer house is.

Because it's owned by the talent agency that owns mizkif, asmongold, emiru, etc. i.e. OTK.
It's the same thing with Kai Cenat living with Fanum, for example.
These companies buy these villas and put multiple streamers in them, but each streamer has rights only on their own rooms, but not the corridors, halls etc., which are legally only meant to be used as places of transit. So the streamers can't decorate them, they can only do stuff to their own room.

>>44218597
Yet people still refuse to admit that all e-celebs are fake and astroturfed.

>>44218597
nta but this is so interesting, i’m gonna look into this

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>>44218226
Reiterating worst cases with no attempt to elucidate the full picture is anti-cognitive and biased. "Domestic slave" is a bitter disingenuous misrepresentation of how functioning adult males respectfully treat their wives. Blaming societal unsafety on men is questionable considering it is often linked to judicial laxism associated with feminism-adjacent policies (not debating wether the pros outweighsthe cons or vice-versa), and mens are by far the most predominant victims of explicit strength in socio-siocetal layers of survival that require it.

The rethorics of yours is structured around a sequence of oratorically-inflated pseudo-consistent anti-inclusive misrepresentations to shelter from a fundamental uncoupling with uncomfortable information. If men "had it better" then you wouldn't be MTF. This is irreducible.

>>44218747
finnster’s circle of influence are also all owned by a/the same management company specializing in OF. It’s all manufactured.

>>44219149
finnster was def groomed into trooning out and doing onlyfans

>>44219503
He wasnt groomed in any meaningful sense of the word. He loved the fame and attention he got cross dressing and evidently gets off on doing it.

>>44208976
Ignoring this braindead gender envy topic;
This cosplay really sucks because Luna Snow has long legs and emiru is a complete womanlet. Her torso is too long, head is too big, her top is too far down and the wig is clearly not the same hair style as LS's. Overall it's a 5/10 cosplay but only because most cosplays are shit and most cosplayers are fugly hags.

>>44219572
a bigger problem is that these e-thots tend to be devoid of charisma or actual sex appeal, that person is a prime example. And personally I found the overly filtered photos to be unappealing, at that point I’d just prefer drawings

>>44218597
very good to learn all media is fake. reality is all fake

>>44218226
>(wokely) get raped faggot :3
god every gender wars thread is shit

>>44218351
>Also I don't believe you, a rape victim would never see being sexually desirable as an inherent boon.
I didn't think feminists had their own version of "What were you wearing?"

>>44217216
nigger she's a fat out of shape slob, a 19 bmi chick that actually maintained her body with appropriate amounts of physical activity looks hot in her 40s. this bitch looks like a 60yo legfat and gut wise due to being as unhealthy as me, and I'm a dude

>>44209023
this is the most obvious tranny cope for being a terrible person

"ohh woe is me it was because i was le evil male rapist now i'm a pure girl soul"

you're still probably a terrible person