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https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/iowa-dem-candidate-rob-sand-girls

>Rob Sand is the Democratic nominee for governor of Iowa and the only Democrat holding statewide office there. He has also become a favorite of the Third Way and Searchlight Institute wing of Democratic consultants, who have spent the past year encouraging Democrats to abandon transgender people and adopt at least a few anti-trans positions; Searchlight's founder, Adam Jentleson, told The Atlantic this month that Sand has "taken some of the cultural issues that dog Democrats in red states off the table." Now Sand is at the head of a wave of prominent Democratic candidates choosing to throw transgender people under the bus in their pursuit of power. In an interview with Politico's Jonathan Martin, Sand gave his clearest endorsement yet of anti-trans sports bans, stating, "I just think girls' sports are for girls and boys' sports are for boys," while decrying members of his own party who are "much more focused on other cultural stuff."

>"Where do you differ from your party?" Martin asked Sand in the interview. Sand responded with a list of conservative positions, a trans sports ban among them. "Well, I have said consistently I think that fairness rules the day in girls' sports," he said. "I think that if we are helping you afford food, you shouldn't be buying sugary drinks with it. We don't want you to build bad nutrition habits that then lead to additional healthcare costs later on. The border was obviously a mess under the Biden administration. That is a national security issue. We need to have a common-sense system that works there. Is that a long enough list?"
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>>44659829
Why does this dude who went on the record to admit he's skinwalking a childhood crush hate Iowa's normies?
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>>44659829
holy shit why can't activists just drop all the sports stuff. we're not the same as real women, we're transsexuals, medical freaks who just have to accept that certain things in society aren't for us
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>>44659829
Yeah and he's going to lose, he's a democrat trying to win in a red area by acting red. The people there have no reason to vote diet red over red, but that's what his strategy is.
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>>44659854
What?
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>>44660104
You're retarded and it doesn't end at sports.
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>>44660104
because the entire point of sex segregation in sport is equitability, not fairness. it's giving those that traditionally wouldn't have an opportunity to be celebrated a chance for recognition.

in all fairness, women can play in the nba. they don't get picked up for the nba because they suck in comparison to the other players. so we made a whole league for them.

have you guys never seen a league of their own?

why don't we have the all american girls professional baseball league anymore? because it didn't turn a profit. people weren't interested in women's baseball. maybe the wnba needs to go the same way. all of this drama around the wnba is manufactured to try to drum up revenue. it comes across as a hail mary.
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don't tell me you're anit dei as you try to push for the wnba. that sounds like you are pro dei because you think shitty athletes should be given their own league and trophies. like that's great that you took home a wnba title, but you can't even dunk. none of yall are even close to lebron's level.

i don't think mediocricy should be celebrated. what are you teaching the kids by giving these women participation trophies?
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>Dem
lol

STOP TOLERATING FAITH
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>>44659829
remember to voot blue
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capitalism dictates that the strong live and the weak die much like survival of the fittest. don't sit there and call me a commy as you try to give handouts for mediocre performances. if the women's sports aren't profitable to the point that you have to make up an artificial controversy to drum up attention, then it's time your business was allowed to fail. capitalism doesn't care.
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>>44660187
100% agreed. We need to stop the religious argument that transwomen are literally women
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>>44660228
Sure, just counter with scientific evidence and prove your assertion that trannies on HRT are out-competing cis women. Or do you simply have faith that they must be?
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>>44659829
sounds like he’s a republican with a blue pin
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>>44659829
>state that went 3 times for trump
yeah no shit he's going to say that
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>>44659829
This shouldn't be a controversial opinion even to LGBT communities.
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>>44660273
He literally calls you boys and men in the full interview. He's not making some roundabout "well transwomen are stronger than ciswomen" argument (which still has to be proven as >>44660241) but instead outright calling you a man.
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>>44660293
Ok. No one should be forced to call trans women women. We're living in this bizarre timeline where adults think their clownish behaviors should be enabled by other adults to the detriment of everyone.
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>>44659829
Why worry about the real problems affecting the country when you can direct hate at a microscopic minority group
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>>44660306
so you're anti-christianity right?
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>>44660306
Yeah senpai out yourself as not being part of that 'LGBT community' you think should agree with him.
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>>44660311
They get to pretend like they're the victims of a diabolical witchhunt while also being the ones oppressing others. I'm talking about trans people.
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i just can't with you people. you think it's ok for a rabbi to circumsize a penis and suck the blood off the type against the will of the infant, but are against a vagina surgery for consenting individuals?
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>>44660323
>I'm oppressed because I can't yell slurs in public without consequence (which isn't even true anymore)
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>>44660313
Wearing women's clothing in public to imitate women and try to steal into privileges reserved for women has nothing to do with Christianity.
>>44660315
I've never changed. It was LGBT that changed from what is used to be, which was a collection of marginalized people with sexualities we couldn't help. Trans ain't that
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>>44660342
why are they entitled to a league of their own?
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>>44660342
What does the T stand for, retard? Just admit you're one of those LGB without the T types, using the whole term while exclusively shitting on the trannies isn't supporting the lgbT at all.
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>>44660358
Because men are as well. Women can't compete in men's sports by default because their bodies simply won't allow them to compete against men in sports. Nature decided that outcome. Trans women are men, have male physical advantages, and therefore shouldn't be allowed into women's sport.
>>44660363
I fully support marginalized people with a history of being discriminated against over the way they were born. You weren't born trans however.
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>>44660418
You ignored the substance of my post entirely.
>>44660363
>What does the T stand for, retard? Just admit you're one of those LGB without the T types, using the whole term while exclusively shitting on the trannies isn't supporting the lgbT at all.
Address it, you are engaging in non-sequiturs.
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>>44660423
I support trans women's right to transition and wear what they want to wear. Your rights end where other's begin however and you don't need to play sports with real women as part of your gender expression. Trampling on the rights of others is where I draw the line and unfortunately you don't. Trannies are willing to sink the entire LGBT ship with me on it so that they can harass cis women and girls and step on their rights. I will never support the bad faith individuals that hide in T but are actually something else entirely.
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>>44660460
>I support transwomen!
>You're men
>Trannies are ruining the lgbT
>You're trying to hurt women
>You're stealing women's rights
>You're trying to rape women!
Yeah okay you fucking suck at trying to look 'reasonably concerned', the right wing talking points just leak out of your pores.
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>>44660478
A trans woman is a biological man taking estrogen and maybe learning about makeup but that's not required. You can't fault society for accurately assessing you by what they see when they look at you, can you?
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>>44660498
Like I said, you suck at this.
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>>44660504
Lack of self awareness perhaps.
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>>44660140
"Erin" once tweeted about this girl named Erin he met when he was like eight, he was infatuated with her at the time, then said that after he trooned out and made Erin his new name, that he's BECOME Erin. AGP "If you can't get your waifu, become your waifu" shit.
And this self-admitted skinwalker is mad that a Democrat running in Iowa doesn't want to support things most of Iowa's normies, on both sides of the aisle, are against.
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>>44660181
Scratch a shemale and a misogynist bleeds. Every fucking time.
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>>44660516
LOL why can't they understand that this looks awful to people without autism? It's repulsive to see a married father upend his life so he can live out his sexual fantasy involving an 8 year old girl.
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>>44660529
Nta, but that's just the truth, no misogyny required. I am not even a tranny and I know that Women's sports are unpopular, unprofitable and DEI. The WNBA loses money and the women in it complain about not being paid enough. Women are entitled losers.
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>>44660541
>Women are entitled losers.
>And I want to be one
This doesn't make sense to me. Trans women seem to hate women.
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>>44660516
normies are retarded goycattle
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>>44660583
Hating normies doesn't make them stop being the majority. Since troons are such a tiny minority, such little guys, such little birthday boys, it would behoove them to NOT make themselves utterly repugnant to normies. Maybe even do the opposite and endear themselves to normies by demonstrating their shared interests and shared investment in society, the way homos did.
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>>44660104
Sports stuff is used almost entirely as a means to set a precedent for legal discrimination against trannies by the state.
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>>44660678
Conversely it's being used by trannies to try to force themselves onto women and into women's spaces. The catalyst for the friction again being trannies. Had you stuck with fighting for your right to use hrt and crossdress instead there wouldn't be an issue to begin with. T is the only letter that seems to need to crush other people's rights as part of its 'rights'.
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>>44660104
lolol good job fedbot now go to the wall
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>>44660715
>Had you stuck with fighting for your right to use hrt and crossdress
Reading this made me realize how crazy the fact there's an anti-tranny backlash in the first place would sound to someone from as recently as the Dubya administration. The idea that you could run a successful political campaign entirely on fucking over trannies, even though all your other policies are flagrantly terrible, would read like something from a comedy.
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>>44660837
The US didn't have a tranny problem back then. Americans wouldn't have thought that 20 years later there would be tranny serial killer cults, millions of men identifying as trans over a sexual fetish, or men posing as women for the purpose of forcing themselves onto women. Or that autistic straight men would view medical transition as a legitimate escape from being unsatisfied with their lives.
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>>44660837
I mean he's literally screaming accusations of rape in that post, the funny part is how blatantly unhinged he is, and how widely being that insane has spread merely because some fucking low IQ inbreds saw propaganda on TV.
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>>44660715
They were trying to kick lesbians out of the women's locker room in my high school in the 2010s. You're just factually retarded.
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>>44660925
False equivalence fallacies and blaming cis people won't work. A lesbian has a right to play sports with other women of her gender. A biological male does not.
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>>44660950
You're tripping over your own words.
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>>44660982
No I'm not. You wouldn't disagree with me if you couldn't understand what I'm saying.
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he is just saying what he has to say to win in iowa
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>>44661005
He won't win in Iowa because the people who support transphobic positions have no reason to vote for diet red over red.
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>>44660498

Citations on the congenital, neurological basis of gender identity:

>An overview from New Scientist
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan/

>An overview from MedScape
https://www.medscape.com/s/viewarticle/840538_3

>Sexual differentiation of the human brain: relevance for gender identity, transsexualism and sexual orientation - D. F. Swaab, Netherlands Institute for Brain Research, Amsterdam
http://postcog.ucd.ie/files/Schwaab.pdf

>A sex difference in the human brain and its relation to transsexuality - Zhou JN, 1995
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7477289/

>White matter microstructure in female to male transsexuals before cross-sex hormonal treatment. A diffusion tensor imaging study
https://www.sciencedirect.com/journal/journal-of-psychiatric-research

>Prenatal testosterone and gender-related behaviour - Melissa Hines, Department of Psychology, City University, Northampton Square, London
https://www.biology.utah.edu/carrier/3320/sexual%20diff.%20papers/Prenatal%20testosterone.pdf

>Prenatal and postnatal hormone effects on the human brain and cognition - Bonnie Auyeung, Michael V. Lombardo, & Simon Baron-Cohen, Dept. of Psychiatry, University of Cambridge
https://docs.autismresearchcentre.com/papers/2013_Auyeung_Prenatal%20and%20postnatal%20hormone%20effects_EuJPhysio.pdf

>A spreadsheet with links to many articles about gender identity and the brain.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf0vIoAh7e8nj_lCW27KbYBh0/htmlview?pli=1#gid=0

>Here are more
http://aebrain.blogspot.com/p/transsexual-and-intersex-gender-identity.html?m=1
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>>44660998
I understand what you're trying to say but you're absolutely failing to say it.
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>>44660498

Citations on transition as medically necessary and the only effective treatment for dysphoria, as recognized by every major US and world medical authority:

>The American Psychiatric Association's policy statement regarding the necessity and efficacy of transition as the appropriate treatment for gender dysphoria.
https://www.apa.org/about/policy/chapter-12b#transgender

>More info from the APA
http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/programs/transgender/?tab=1

>A resolution from the American Medical Association on the efficacy and necessity of transition as appropriate treatment for gender dysphoria, and call for an end to insurance companies categorically excluding transition-related care from coverage.
https://www.tgender.net/taw/ama_resolutions.pdf

>A similar policy statement from the American College of Physicians
https://www.acpjournals.org/aim/article/2292051/lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-health-disparities-executive-summary-policy-position

>Guidelines from the American Academy of Pediatrics.
http://assets2.hrc.org/files/documents/SupportingCaringforTransChildren.pdf

>Similar resolution from the American Academy of Family Physicians.
https://www.aafp.org/dam/AAFP/documents/about_us/special_constituencies/2012RCAR_Advocacy.pdf

>Here is one from the National Association of Social Workers.
http://www.socialworkers.org/da/da2008/finalvoting/documents/Transgender%202nd%20round%20-%20Clean.pdf

>Treatment guidelines from the Royal College of Psychiatrists, and guidelines from the NHS.
http://www.teni.ie/attachments/14767e01-a8de-4b90-9a19-8c2c50edf4e1.PDF

http://www.wlmht.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Gender-dysphoria-guide-for-GPs-and-other-healthcare-staff.pdf

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Gender-dysphoria/Pages/Treatment.aspx
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>>44660498

Citations on the transition's dramatic reduction of suicide risk while improving mental health and quality of life, with trans people able to transition young and spared abuse and discrimination having mental health and suicide risk on par with the general public:

>Bauer, et al., 2015: Transition vastly reduces risks of suicide attempts, and the farther along in transition someone is the lower that risk gets.
http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-015-1867-2

>Moody, et al., 2013: The ability to transition, along with family and social acceptance, are the largest factors reducing suicide risk among trans people.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3722435/

>Young Adult Psychological Outcome After Puberty Suppression and Gender Reassignment. A clinical protocol of a multidisciplinary team with mental health professionals, physicians, and surgeons, including puberty suppression, followed by cross-sex hormones and gender reassignment surgery, provides trans youth the opportunity to develop into well-functioning young adults. All showed significant improvement in their psychological health, and they had notably lower rates of internalizing psychopathology than previously reported among trans children living as their natal sex. Well-being was similar to or better than same-age young adults from the general population.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2014/09/02/peds.2013-2958
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>>44660649
Tokens get spent. Playing optics never helps the minority it only pushes the boundries closer to more restrictions implored upon said minorities. Civil rights movement was not just peaceful protesting, it was disturbing the peace to fight for the rights of minorities. Playing optics and strictly “peaceful protests” would’ve only kept the status quo and maintained minorities across the board as second class citizens. So you can fuck off with “just play optics” posting.
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>>44659829
so glad politicians are being decided based on the real meat and potatoes issues like these, God bless America
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>>44661054
>Here's several hours of reading materials I'm dumping on you to convince you that men are women
If these studies don't include references to autism and autogynephilia in clinically diagnosing transgenderism in men than they are a waste of time.
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>>44660498

>The only disorders more common among trans people are those associated with abuse and discrimination - mainly anxiety and depression. Early transition virtually eliminates these higher rates of depression and low self-worth, and dramatically improves trans youth's mental health. Trans kids who socially transition early and who are not subjected to abuse or discrimination are comparable to cisgender children in measures of mental health.
http://www.jaacap.com/article/S0890-8567%2816%2931941-4/fulltext

https://thinkprogress.org/allowing-transgender-youth-to-transition-improves-their-mental-health-study-finds-dd6096523375#.pqspdcee0

>Dr. Ryan Gorton: In a cross-sectional study of 141 transgender patients, Kuiper and Cohen-Kittenis found that after medical intervention and treatments, suicide fell from 19% to 0% in transgender men and from 24% to 6% in transgender women.)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3219066

>Murad, et al., 2010: Significant decrease in suicidality post-treatment. The average reduction was from 30% pretreatment to 8% post treatment. ... A meta-analysis of 28 studies showed that 78% of transgender people had improved psychological functioning after treatment.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19473181
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>>44661106
>unironically taking the word of blanchardism as gospel when he’s been ousted as a sexologist attempting to link trans identities to sexual orientation, is denounced by the greater scientific community, and is known to require his supporters to believe in false reporting
Check your biases first.
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>>44661111
> B Kuiper et al. Arch Sex Behav. 1988 Oct.
A 38 year old study with a sample size of less than 200 trans individuals from one country, Netherlands which happens to be one of the most liberal countries on earth. I'm not going though each study you've dumped itt because they're likely to be the same as this one, completely useless and not an accurate reflection of what you're claiming they prove.
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>>44661189
Unreal to do that while defending Blanchardism which is even older and less supported.
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>>44661189
>gathering a plethora of data points and a history of studies conducted over time that show a trend towards not only trans legitimacy but also the right to access healthcare, HRT and surgeries to be covered, and the growing evidence towards gender identity, should instead be entirely ignored and we should just not pay any attention to any of these findings
You made up your mind before reading any counter-arguments. You’re not here for the pursuit of truth or what’s scientifically backed. You’re here to accept whatever reality you find best fits your world view. I’m done with you but my citations and links are for those who haphazardly believed you had any ground to stand on in this topic.
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>>44661135
>Blanchard is a pseudoscience hack and AGP is not real

>>44631413
>>44631413
>>44631413

Looks real to me. It also looks like more of a motivation for crossdressers like yourself then anything found within the links you've provided. Blanchard is a hated pariah because he didn't do what those other researchers did in their studies, he told the truth.
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You people are retarded, you do realize that he has to say this shit to even have a chance at winning? It's a fucking Red State. He loses, you get a gigachud Republicuck there. He wins, he likely doesn't actually do shit about trannies completely ignoring whatever crap he said before. That's what politicians do you know, say crap that they don't follow up on later. Considering the midterms are gonna annihilate Republucucks and normalfags are likely getting tired of the tranny shit in blue and purple states, the vibe might shift in general and nobody in Iowa won't give a fuck either about this guy not actually following up on anything slightly anti-tranny.
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>>44661280
Being Republican lite does not work, they will just vote for the Republican.
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>>44661280
Why would anyone vote for him if he just seems like a Republican? Where's your proof that he's secretly an ally or anything else stupid like that?
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>>44661262
>impressionable trannies raised in conservative circles that deny trans identities, adopt blanchard’s teachings as a cope for their life experience
>this must mean it’s true!
>all the other scientists were wrong! All those other research studies are lies compared to my ONE
this is how you sound.
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>>44661217
You've already stated that you will only accept scientific analysis regarding transgender issues if they are glowingly positive to your bias. The studies that I clicked on were like the Netherlands study, complete fraud. Blanchard studied 16,000 trans women over a course of nearly two decades. Yet his work isn't viewed as being legitimate while some hack paper that followed 200 trans people for a year or two is.
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>>44661309
>okay bro here’s your blanchard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchard%27s_transsexualism_typology
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>>44661309
Not to mention it has zero answer towards nonbinary or FtMs. Lol what a quack scientist and you take it as faith LMAO
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>>44661341
>Women have autogynephilia too, the post pubescent sexual fetish found in men
There's no possible dialogue with you autistic monsters. Your minds are that of narcissistic men.
>>44661349
He simply didn't study either non binary individuals or ftms because they didn't really exist in large enough numbers to warrant study in the 1990s.
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>>44661433
http://www.juliaserano.com/av/Serano-CaseAgainstAutogynephilia.pdf

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00918369.2010.486241

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6czRFLs5JQo

http://www.genderpsychology.org/autogynephilia/ray_blanchard/index.html
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>>44661433
This work http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/Reviews/Psychology%20Perverted%20-%20by%20Joan%20Roughgarden.htm looks at and critiques the more recent elaboration of Blanchard’s typology in The Man Who Would be Queen: The Science of Gender-Bending and Transsexualism by Michael Bailey. Zinnia Jones has a fantastic post breaking down a specific autogynephilia-advocate (Dreger)’s book; Galileo’s Middle Finger.
https://genderanalysis.net/2016/04/alice-dreger-autogynephilia-and-the-misrepresentation-of-trans-sexualities-book-review-galileos-middle-finger/
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>>44661433
From his 1985 study, he found that bisexual trans women had higher scores for androphilia than gynephilia, casting some doubt on whether his theory about psuedo-bisexual trans women is plausible.

One of Blanchard’s most noted papers is his 1989 paper supposedly “proving” that heterosexual, bisexual and asexual trans women have the same etiology. There’s a fatal error. Asexual trans women had autogynephilia scores that were almost a perfect midpoint between straight trans women and bisexual trans women (1.83 from straight and 1.88 from bisexual), and most importantly, he found that asexual trans women and bisexual trans women had a statistically significant difference in their autogynephilia scores, while asexual and lesbian trans women did not, and bisexual and lesbian trans women did not.
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>>44661433
Shoddy Methodology, Lies and More

Blanchard’s 1984 study aimed at proving whether ‘heterosexual’ (lesbian) trans women were lying about a history of gross-gender fetishism has a number of issues. First is the lack of a control sex tape to compare the crossdressing scenes to. It is possible that participants were aroused because of the presence of something erotic, not specifically the crossdressing aspect. There was also no ‘homosexual’ (straight) control group which could show underreporting in that population as well. Furthermore, Blanchard erroneously equates erotic arousal to crossdressing (whether he showed this is dubious) with a history of crossdressing. Lastly, we come to the issues with phallometry; the methodology used to measure arousal.
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>>44661433

Moser’s critique (page 9/797) furthers this point, eludicating the fact that Blanchard’s conclusions do not match his results, there are significant missing explanatonary factors that are not tested for, and an extremely small sample size for specific subgroups.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00918369.2010.486241

And Wyndzen illustrates a reinterpretation of the data that begets the opposite results

Veale and Wyndzen point out problems with Blanchard’s lack of controls for age;

In addition, many of the questionnaire items that Blanchard uses begin with “Have you ever…”. Given this format, it is probable that older persons answering the survey will be more likely to answer “yes”, simply because they have lived longer and are therefore more likely to have experienced a diversity of feelings, including autogynephilic feelings. This means their results may not be due to sexual orientation, but more an experience that TS who do not transition are more likely to experience as they get older (Wyndzen, 2003). Blanchard does not control for the effects of age in his studies, this is addressed in this study though.

Blanchard’s (1989b) hypothesis is that non-androphilic TSs sexual orientation is related to having sexual fantasies of being female; he tests this by comparing nonandrophilic TS to a control group of androphilic TS. However, Wyndzen (2003) points out that “what this control group fails to distinguish is the role of sexual orientation separate from gender incongruence, in predicting fantasies about being a woman” (Wyndzen, 2003). To ensure that BFs do not have such fantasies, this research includes a control group of BFs. The scales have been modified slightly so that they are appropriate for both groups to answer.
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>>44661485
>>44661502
>>44661523
You aren't going to convince cis women that they share the same sexuality as you. You're losing public support because of this very issue; that you insert your skinwalking fetish into your arguments for why you're a woman.

I support T women that are truly operating in good faith and demonstrate their good faith by accepting they are trans women and not women. Autogynephilic fetishist trannies are however not satisfied with just being trans, their goal is to force real women into pretending the fake women impersonating them are the same as they are. It's male predator behavior and cannot be endorsed by anyone with integrity.
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>>44661433
Moser also points out issues with Blanchard’s research;

Blanchard (1985a) created the Cross-Gender Fetishism Scale as a way of distinguishing autogynephilia, although that term had not been coined yet, from other types of cross-gender interests. A sample item is, “Have you ever felt sexually aroused when putting on women’s underwear, stockings or a nightgown?” (p. 243). All the items in this scale use the term “ever,” emphasizing that even one episode in the distant past factored into the score on this scale. The consistent use of “ever” in these scales is analogous to classifying someone as homosexual on the basis of a few episodes of arousal from same sex contact during a brief period, despite years of satisfying heterosexual experience, interest, and denial of subsequent homosexual experience or interest. Although some MTFs acknowledge ongoing autogynephilic arousal, many others deny this (Lawrence, 2004, 2005). Blanchard (1985b; Blanchard, Clemmensen, & Steiner, 1985) and Lawrence (2004, 2005, 2006) dismiss their denials and insist that they are still autogynephilic
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I think it's funny the right used to mock the left for supposedly having a science 'fandom' where they loved the concept of science and treated scientists as celebrities without caring about what science actually IS, but now they do the exact shit they accused everyone else of doing by treating fuckers like Blanchard and his outdated theories as heroes and celebrities while ignoring any advancements science has made to discredit him.
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>>44661590
>still argues trans identity as a sexual orientation
>still subscribes to blanchard’s highly debunked and (rightfully) ostracized research in attempting to categorize trans people as a paraphilia
>refuses to acknowledge or even provide an honest review of counter-claims outside of where they may be able to surface claim “it’s just fraud”
Yeah we should all take your word over anyone else who’s serious about this topic. Stay in your corner.
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>>44661604
I could honestly say I never had crossdressed and even after fully coming out transgender with SRS, I still don't like women's clothes as much as I like blue jeans and a t-shirt
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>>44661633
There hasn't been any advancements in tranny science just because you got a few test results that you like more than Blanchard's work.

And just as an aside, there's no public outcry against FTM trans people because for the most part they act like women.
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>>44661826
>There hasn't been and any advancements in tranny science because I don't agree with the results
This guy is like some ancient fossil obsessed with the plum-pudding model of the atom because he doesn't like all the more modern research disproving it, he's just so attached to his plum-pudding.
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>>44661841
Where wrong with plum pudding? You have your Monster Energy Drink and your diapers.
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>>44661826
>no advancements
>50+ research papers done
>vs blanchard (one guy) debunked research whom poster religiously believes over every evidence counter
lol, just say you like to cherry pick your science already.
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>>44661866
This doesn't make sense, did you have a stroke while furiously trying to type a response?
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bump
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>>44660884
Where did he say anything about rape?
t. >>44660837
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>>44660998
Her understands, he's just pretending he doesn't.
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>>44662769
>>44660715
>it's being used by trannies to try to force themselves onto women
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>>44661096
Perhaps I misjudged you. Proceed on your way to oblivion.
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>>44661298
Because they support his positions on any of countless other issues over his opponent's positions? The world doesn't revolve around you, Lilith.
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>>44662813
>Over his opponent
But all of his positions he states in these interviews are just Republican ones?
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>>44662782
NTA, but you got rape out of it in that context? Why are you seeing rape in this? Stop projecting, skinwalker.
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>>44662794
And you’re not going to fool anyone with “we have to play optics” shittery. Enjoy the pendulum swing.
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>>44662824
Look at his publicly available platform, then look at his opponent's.
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>>44662824
it gives them an out when they get pissed of at the gas pump
dsa and progressives only perform well in already blue districts

if you think democrats are going to take away anyone's rights then you're smoking crack and living in fairy land
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>>44662837
>nta
Yeah I don't believe you, all of a sudden a bunch of chudy posts get made replying to everyone hours later, this is you getting home or waking up and spamming a bunch of replies to defend yourself.
>You got rape out of that
'Forcing yourself on' someone is literally the most common euphemism for rape.
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>>44662852
But he's actively saying he wants to take away people's rights?
>>44662850
Yeah they're effectively identical. Republican lite.
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>>44662837
>regurgitating debunked blanchard theories
sub pig iq
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>>44662837
because "forcing yourself on someone" is a way of describing rape
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>>44662874
He's hoping the person who posted the studies earlier is gone now so he can keep repeating his position without being called out as a Blanchard cultist.
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bl*nchard is a fraud, self-admittedly
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>>44661280
>the tranny shit
is being pushed exclusively by rightoids as a wedge issue, and is not materially impacting the lives of anyone except (as a consequence of this insane push) more cis AND trans people being harassed for wanting to participate in sportsball or take a piss
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>>44662883
the rest of us are just going to keep pointing to that anon’s refs to highlight how retarded it is to swallow blanch’s cumstain garbage
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Remember when righties used to chant 'facts over feelings', but now suddenly with facts related to trans issues it's suddenly THEIR feelings over the facts?
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>>44662932
>If we lash out at PhD scientists creating an environment of fear, they'll be forced to revise their previous findings that trans women are autistic men with a fetish and then we can point to the 'new' and 'improved' studies and say Aha: we're women now. You cis people are the problem.
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>>44662981
>>44662989
Wow that's crazy, where's your evidence that happened?
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>>44662989
>any scientists that provide evidence of support for trans people must be fake.
this is called holding a bias. You’re the farthest thing from a non-partisan research commentator. Flaws are pointed out to the SINGLE guy you keep referencing yet you willingly ignore it because it would unravel your world view. How about stop being the party of feelings and come back to the side of facts?
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>>44662996
That's the process of 'discovering' that trannies are in fact female brained intersex valid lesbians, as was described to me by a PhD holder and science professor that I've spoken with about the subject.
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>>44663046
what’s their name and political standing? Do they have a history of being impartial in their research or are they the very thing you keep arguing about: partisan in their work?
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>>44663046
Okay, so no proof then?
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>>44663067
He's actually a lifelong registered Democrat and when we talk politics he's very critical of Trump and the Republicans. I would describe him as being excruciatingly fair and unbiased both professionally and just as a person.
He's lived through the process of having the science department at the university where he teaches become a target to be raided by bad faith actors forcing their social agenda where it doesn't belong.
>>44663069
You want me to dox my professor?
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>>44663114
I want you to prove your statement here:
>>44662989 because after all, that's what you said is happening. Moving your goalposts to "I hate my professor's opinion!" has no relevance to whether someone has been harassed into changing their scientific view, no matter how you feel about his opinion.
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>>44663137
I don't hate his opinion. I trust it unswervingly. It's you I don't trust. He's not transphobic in the least, but he doesn't agree with the scientific papers he's reviewed that push the narrative of transgender being valid from a scientific standpoint.
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>>44663114
Though being honest, yes, go ahead and name him. There's a reason anecdotes are not considered evidence in debates or trials, it's because you can just pull that shit out of your ass in a heartbeat. If he's not someone you feel like you can name, then don't fucking bring it up, cite someone who had this happen to them publicly. If you can't, accept you have no proof and are just a whiny feelings-fueled phobic dickhead.
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>>44663162
>He doesn't agree
Wow zowy, that's cool, but how does that prove people have been bullied into abandoning their totally real research that proves trannies are evil and bad?
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>>44660166
by this argument why have women's sports at all?
make all sports open and we have real equitability
maybe women never win anything again ever but fuck'em, who cares, equity at all costs right?

seriously please tell me why women's sports should exist
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>>44659829
>I think that if we are helping you afford food, you shouldn't be buying sugary drinks with it. We don't want you to build bad nutrition habits that then lead to additional healthcare costs later on. The border was obviously a mess under the Biden administration. That is a national security issue.
What is even the point of this? What do the dems gain from running candidates who just concede to all the repub bullshit arguments in advance? Even if all they want is a person with a D in their name they're just gonna go rogue like sinema and fetterman and soon newsom
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>>44663202
why are democrats banned from saying things that are true just because republicans also say them?
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>>44663163
This is the 4chan gooner crossdresser board on 4chan, not the Harvard Debate Club. Wow.
I'm not going to have you people harassing him.
>>44663176
Because a PhD science professor with 30 years in teaching at a very prestigious university explained it to me just like that.
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>>44663293
So no proof, then?
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>>44663299
Not for you. You can go harass Rowling again on Xitter
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>>44663388
Cute ad hominem. Learn that if you make an assertion you have to a compelling argument, not just spew anecdotes. Grand claims of conspiracy require compelling evidence, nobody has any reason to believe some random psychotic transphobe on the internet who spent hours praising Blanchard and crying about someone who DID bother to link evidence for their claims.
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>>44663405
Don't believe me then. I'm not bothered by you exercising your mental agency. It's your right.
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>>44663416
>I'm not bothered
And yet, you continue whining at me.
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>>44659829
Guess his Grindr bodycount at Republican meetings.
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>>44663424
Bye.
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>>44663416
>not bothered
>still can’t admit blanchard’s typology has been disproven with hundreds of holes in his logic
you keep avoiding owning up when you’re plainly wrong. And if we want to compare “my professor said this point i agree with”, we could easily do the same for any of us that’s been to a university and spoken to researchers on the field.

You keep trying to imply trannies as “skinwalkers” and crossdressers yet can’t back up the one guy you constantly fell back on (blanchard), other than “it’s a conspiracy!”. You sound like a bumbling idiot who pretends they’re a great debater but is more of a masterbaiter
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>>44663536
Believe what you want to believe. Believe in your handful of bad studies and use them to justify a lifestyle choice that 62% of Americans find to be morally unacceptable. It's just me afterall. I'm the only transphobe that isn't giving you what you want.
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>>44663695
Argumentum ad populum
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>>44663772
Noteworthy considering that your support numbers were riding high a decade ago and now they've plummeted to 30% like Trump's. You wouldn't suggest that Trump is the victim of a right wing smear campaign and that explains his unpopularity?
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>>44663806
Wow he's doubling down on the fallacy, look at him go. What happened to 'bye'?
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>>44663695
>handful
>50+ studies that adds mounting evidence for transgender legitimacy
>vs blanchard’s debunked theory (which you still find it difficult to admit is flawed and has too numerous holes to even justify your constant claims of “skinwalkers”
>bad studies
>can’t articulate how exactly the counter-arguments are bad (and again, fails to recognize the own flawed logic in supporting blanchard’s typology
you’re a hypocrite and not here on a sense of what’s science based reality. You’re just here to push an agenda that fits your world view. Again, keep making a clown of yourself, you made this thread a circus with yourself the main attraction.

Also, don’t forget to remind us to subscribe to your conspiracies and anecdotes as “facts” over whole scientific bodies. What a fucking joke you are.



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