If trans women were always women, then why can't afabs/genetic females be trans women?
they have NO answer
>>44913384truvke
>>44911366Most women are trans women if you think about it.
>>44911366The transition part is missing, even if they potentially got phalloplasty or something they'd still transition to a type of woman, which is not recognized as a transgender transition. Possibly non-binary at best
>>44911366they can
>>44913422Why can't the transition be spiritual, why must it be material and surgical?
>>44911366if trans women were always women, then why can't we call ourselves cis?
>>44913476You can. Literally nothing is stopping you.
>>44913463It can be spiritual, but they would still transition from (woman) to (woman). That doesn't constitute a trans-gender transition. Trans woman and cis woman aren't two different genders.
>>44913488weeoooooo weeeeooooocis police hereur not a real womanGET OUT
>>44913525Umm, but have you considered that if she says she’s a cis woman, then she is one?
>>44913550*scans your chromosomes*ooooh sorry lie detected, we are gonna detain you HANDS UP SIR
>>44913463it already is not only spiritual but the trans gender label can travel back in time retroactively, a trans woman can be a trans woman before "She" even decides or labels herself as a trans woman because "she" experimented with gender normative roles, like putting on her mother's shoes, playing with barbies, or makeup
>>44913564you mean like retconning someone's wikipedia page to no longer ever have their deadname or OG pronouns?
>>44911366because a trans woman is a woman who transitioned to the female sex. cissoid women did not transition. not that hard to understand
>>4491367699% of trans women don't transition sexes
>>44913687bullshit made-up stat but ok. where did you get that? if you don't transition sexes then no, you aren't a woman.
>>44913698Pre-OP trans "women" BTFO
>>449136491. i am unfamiliar with this fact2. this fact is irrelevant3. this fact is analogous to what I said, one is logical incongruent the other is some sort of artifact of the culture war based on semantics4. this is an epstenoid whataboutism
>>44911366They can tho
>>44913676chromosomes are too powerful and prevent anyone born male from looking fully female ever
>>44913676say this IRL to people without autism and record their reactions please
>>44913764no look up cais
>>44913705hrt counts as transitioning sexes. if you have an estrogen dominant endocrine system, you are a biological woman. also, all actual trannies want vaginoplasty. those who don't are faketrans and agp.
>>44913782If I had seen a CAIS person who had any, to me, male traits, you would deny it on principle. Thus, this is not a useful example, because of your dogmatic attitudes towards intersex groups authoritatively stated to be "real women".
>>44913764hons are ugly but can be biologically female nonetheless. you have cishons too, on the other hand.
>>44913777irl i wouldn't talk like a 4channer, so i think they would have a pretty normal reaction. not that i would ever need to say this, because nobody in real life would utter something as retarded as OP
>>44913845nothing OP said is even close to being as retarded and deranged as what you said, and it seems you are somewhat cognizant of this fact because you keep your values hidden and you act say rapehon shit in 4chan
>>44913856how was what i said retarded? i simply answered OP's question
>>44913880retard
>>44913795you could look at a naked cisgender woman and if i told you she has cais you'd be like yeah he has xy chromosomes i have xray vision and can see how his bones are 2 millimeters too wide
>>44913931If I told you a man was CAIS and he was crossdressed and shaved you would go oh yeah looks just like a woman, esp if he had a breast plate on
>>44913947if he has cais there's no need for the breastplate
>>44913884kys retard
>>44913963if she were a real naked cis woman I wouldn't call her a male tranny = word games/mind games
>>44913971cissoid = retarded
>>44911366no cigar
>>44913971you would if she had cais you know people with cais are afab right? they're assigned female at birth but they have xy chromosomes
>>44913947he also wouldn't need to shave he would never develop facial hair
>>44913986even if that based anon would, that would mean he would be mistaken not that reality is overwritten by perception this is more retarded than a word game, you're pretending a costume of a thing under uncertain perception values is a woman which is why everyone normal lowk hates you or at the very least are weirded out by you
>>44914188yes he would be mistaken in calling a woman a man
Anon I hate to tell you this but there is a growing number of FtFs, the joke might work in 2016 but not in the big 2026 where there are unironic afab trans women
>>44914221you're so low iq its crazycan you just let the adults talk and if someone happens to mistake you for someone intelligent because of your anonimity can you just... stay quiet? please?maybe you were outted from reddit for being retarded or smthn so its wrong to be burden in this site
>>44914239what are you on about?
>>44913986society wants to pretend feminine men can't exist and just calls them women at a certain point of plausible deniability, doesn't mean their masculine traits don't exist or weren't noticed, the world is a bit more complex than these extremes you think in
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>>44914348write me a story about a glorious, celebratory picnic hosted by t4t afab trans women, and yucky amab transbians show up to try to ruin the good time, but they are deftly fended off, their attack foiled
>>44914348that's funny but why do you hate me
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>>44914441i appreciate the effort you put into this because it is funny but honestly i don't care anymore go be delusional about cats and dogs alone
Can afabs be petticoated sissies?
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>>44914664this shit is so overused go outside
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>>44911366Trans women were not always women. They were once men, and are now women. It’s literally why they’re called TRANS women. This is retarded.
>>44914777you just did a transphobia sweaty
