>trans women: I HATE BEING A MAN. IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF IM GOING TO SHOOT MYSELF ILL KILL MYSELF KOW>trans men: hehe being feminine is pretty cool :)Whats this about?
>>45220751all trannies are women
Penis envy
>>45220751Being a masc man is like sticking my dick in a meat grinder, when you present cute and femme, you basically get a full ride for a life on easy modeWas literally homeless and ugly as fuck when I was masc, no girls would come near me.
>>45220785Why do trans men say they are trans when they hate being masc?
>>45220751>obsessed with gay vampires>"I'm a gay man">is a woman with a fetish
>>45220785Only tru if you're white
>>45220751fuck you theyfabsas mtf troon I would kill everyone on this board to look like and feel like that and not a 6’ moid“trans man” you’re a fucking insta model
>>45221065> bong chuvwith full hips wider than her shoulders, a real woman’s build w/o honbarrel, a cute smooth face, and a real woman’s partsfmstl
>>45220751the everpresent issue with gender presentation is that 99% of men and male presenting people are treated like trash. ignored and unwanted. if you look remotely femme you're just treated with more kindness by most people for free. afabs don't necessarily understand this (how could you if it's your entire experience) but they do the second they start presenting more masc. regardless of how much dysphoria you have nobody on earth wants to be treated that way so i think it makes ftms hang on for longer.
>>45221097Well I'm not saying they aren't? It's just the average woman isn't this smol bean with unshaven armpits and pug face either
>>45220751I’m going to present a peaceable offering: there are AAP yaoi fetishists, and trupoon aspirants amongst the ‘fabberists. Us trupoon ftm chasers will supply the latter with small doses of our T supply and train them to be real doods in exchange for holes, and the former can be scrupped up by the orcish hordes of cisoids and snubbed back into women. EZ. But the trick of it is, you can’t tell the difference without advanced psychological testing. Trupoons need to be able to lead the siring process as we understand the intricate mental landscape.
>>45220751To be charitable to picrel their view of masculinity probably revolves around dominance and toxicity, and given their afab body it's easier to be dominant and toxic by leaning into a "hot chick" appearance.That said, being a man is of course NOT all about dominance and toxicity and picrel probably has major issues
>>45220751>Whats this about?you ignoring the existence of male faketroons
>>45220751Truthfully, not much if anything. You are biased and see only the low-effort FTM in comparison with high-effort MTF.Take a look around and you'll notice the counterparts too: high-effort FTM tormented and overly conscious that they are not manly enough, and low-effort MTF (i.e. hons, "agp"), stereotypically masculine in every aspect, but at the same time thinking they are the epitome of femininty.The discussion nobody wants to have though: ain't it interesting that pseudo-FTMs are oftenly "gay" and pseudo-MTF are oftenly "lesbian"?
>>45221619>discussion nobody wants to have>DAE gaydens and transbians are faketransfirst day here?
>>45220798Masc is not the same as being male. Trans men have sex dysphoria, trans women have gender dysphoria
>>45220798This >>45222182I have dysphoria over the fact I don’t have a dick, not weird societal expectations of gender presentation>>45221015I am in fact white
>>45222182What's the difference between sex dysphoria and gender dysphoria?
>>45221619yeah I don't think there's really more fake ftms than fake mtfs or anythingbut socially it's frustrating that fake ftms are given infinite inclusiveness and trans women are treated like nazis if we don't respect them as equally trans as us, but nobody cares if fake mtfs are excluded and ignored. Like cis women with pronouns are treated better in trans communities than even real dysphoric trans women who are ugly or nonpassing.
>>45222862I think the issue is gender dysphoria shouldn’t be the name for dysphoria. I’ve spoken about this with my psych and a couple therapists, but gender is completely societal. Which would mean trans people wouldn’t exist without the gender binary, and that’s not true Dysphoria is based on having a misalignment with your sex assigned at birth. I don’t have dysphoria over skirts or the color pink, I want a dick and balls and a flat chest and a deeper voice. I think in the next DSM they should update the wording
>>45222862in reality, sex dysphoria is dysphoria about your body and gender dysphoria is dysphoria about presentation / social treatmentbut that person is trying to reduce sex dysphoria to when cis women pretend to want to have a penis, and then don't medically transition at all because the surgery isn't good enough.
>>45222841That isn't masc holy shit u just look like a frumpy lesbian
>>45222897Exactly, that’s after a year and a half on T, you can see why I stopped trying Being girly and still getting he/him’d is simply the way to go
>>45220966They're men. Too bad you're wrong.
>>45222862Gender dysphoria is faketrans, it's for theyfabs and theymabs. Sex dysphoria is for actual trans men and women.
>>45222907You're a Z list porn star and prostitute lol
>>45222990I’m Z list cause I don’t make porn, retard
>>45222182>Trans men have sex dysphoria, trans women have gender dysphoriayeah all those trans women getting insane rib surgeries, shoulder surgeries, leg shortening surgeries - that's just a spookare you for real??
>>45220751at the end of the day theyfabs (and fake trans men) mostly use trans identities as a way of escaping the "woman" label. this is usually to cope with trauma and without actually having to abandon femininity. it's honestly gotta be really frustrating for trans men who just want to be men and be done with it
>>45222895>>45222984I guess i would be faketrans than? I want a female body and everything that comes with it, but I don't pay much attention to my moid body other than body hair, ridiculously large shoulders, and masculine facial structure. I also hate the male social roles.
>>45223321*then
>>45223321wanting a female body is what makes you trans
>>45222182sex dysphoria is what makes you a transsexual and implies getting SRSgender dysphoria means you shrimply identify as the opposite gender, but you totally don't have to do anything about it, not even hrt you're still totally valid that way desu~~~~
>>45220751>"trans men">it's just a theyfabYou're all retarded and need to meet gymbro ftmchads.
>>45220751Being a man sucks for everyone but gigachads. Testosterone turns you into a hulking hideous gorilla for no reason now that we live in civilization where being a roided out ape isn't beneficial anymore. Meanwhile E keeps/turns you pretty with nice skin. From a societal perspective, society is retarded and maleness is an extremely restricted shoebox. Even most cismoids fucking hate the fact that being a traditional man is impossible these days because it requires you to be a chiseled gigachad and also a cartoonishly violent fuckbeast with a hair trigger temper. The slightest deviation from this singular ideal is punished with ludicrous violence and straight up death most of the time. No shit this happens.
>>45223337What if AGP is the reason I want a female body?
>>45223548>Being a man sucks for everyone but gigachadsas a passing stealth tranny, I've dated dudes who were average-to-good looking and not chads, who could socialize, worked a boring IT job and played dota or CS, and they could pull of being "poly" (i.e. having like 4-5 gals in their contacts who they fucked regularly with no strings attached besides obv paying for some of their shit). one guy, i've only sucked his dick (which i enjoyed), he never fucked me in the ass, and he basically paid for my entire existence. and as it turned out later I'm still the only tranny he's ever been with.being a functional man who's not gross and can string sentences together gives you the same opportunities as men in the 40s-80s had (having a main chick and multiple side-chicks). but most zoomers and genA grew up with discord shit, they never go out, they can't exist IRL
>>45223591agp is trutrans you moron, get it through your thick fucking skull already>t. ex agp repper/indenial, now stealth tranny
>>45223612I have a neanderthal skull. Cursed by god.>>45223601I look at my brothers and brothers in laws and I think to myself why can't I be as successful with women as them? I think autism is the reason why. I mean ffs I was raised in the same house/family as them yet I turned out so unbelievably different. I turned out to have tranny thoughts while they live as confident men. This is not jealousy or anything, just utter disgust at how different I am and how inhuman I feel.
>>45220751>picthat is a cis woman larping as trans man.crazy to think that its more common now for trans man/mascs/enbies to not want to fully id or embrace manhood, as being tied to such thing means that they become evil oppressive man, that uses his male privilege to oppress ppl.transmascs are all afraid of embracing their manhood, because they'll become gender traitors, they're afraid that their oppression will be ignored since they're a man, and man can't be oppressed, they know that male privilege doesn't exist, they can get advantages but the privileges truly doesn't exist, they know that man grt ignored the same way they were ignored when they were a woman, and soon or later they'll find out that being a man is being disposable to patriarchy. the funny thing abt all of this is that trans man love to put trans woman/fems in that same position so they can deny transfems their oppression and attack them with impunity, they know the power they have, esp withing the "community", to deny trans woman everything, even their womanhood, and put them in the evil male oppressor position.tl;drtrans woman doesn't want to be a mantrans man doesn't want to be a mannonbineys also doesn't want to be a mannobody wants to be one
>>45220751Transmen want to be transmen.Transwomen want to be women.Everyone wants to be assumed female... but only transmen are.
>>45222841Can you post holes on unsee also what’s your insta I forgot
>>45220751Many women can't handle psychologically not being the biggest victim and not the biggest attention where.So they kick and scream and break everything and get away with it because vagina means status immunity from social consequences and a million white knights will use automated Ai to punish anyone with reports who attempt to correct this terrible antisocial behavior. And at the end of the day the ai white knight defense force wins because they just want their weird fetish bait with pedo undertones.
>>45223601wtf are you talking about, are you real?>paid for my entire existenceyou sucked a guy's dick and he started paying for ur existence - rent, bills, food, clothing, hrt, medical bills?and he's got 4-5 other side chicks he does this for?or are you just a neeteveryone is full of shit
>>45224125>and he's got 4-5 other side chicks he does this for?nah for them he didn't pay rent or bills or hrt (they were cis and i had HRT already). just like clothing and going out, basic dating shit>are you just a neeti didn't have a job for about 8 months
>>45220760fpbp strikes again
>>45220751>Whats this about?https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/toupee_fallacyThat said, as a stealth FtM I do also hate these retards. I'm just glad I'm not publicly associated with them.
