What are the best books for learning Latin?
Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata By Hans H Orberg
>>23300908>>23300922More importantly, what is the best book for learning ancient Greek
>>23300908One does not learn by reading but by doing. If you wish to master Latin you will have to go to its birthplace, Latium, and reinvigorate the heart and soul of the Latin people themselves by badgering them with rote verbal course work.
>>23300997Psueds, pseuds, pseuds...everywhere you look—pseuds.
>>23300908I learned with the Cambridge Latin Course, but that was in an actual classroom setting. Many swear by Wheelock's, but I've never tested it out. /Clg/ has guides up. Just check those out.
https://foundinantiquity.com/2023/03/11/latin-autodidacts-youre-working-way-too-hard-how-to-learn-latin-by-yourself-in-2023/
>>23300908consciously replace every noun with the latin equivalent, and then the verbs. this is all you need before the seedling takes root within the soil of your brain.
>>23300985Italian Athenaze
>>23300997I wish these dignified commendatori would keep the traditions of their Roman forebears and respond to annoying youtube peddlers by breaking their kneecaps and throwing them into the Tiber.
>>23301021I agree with her about everything
>>23301028The English one with the workbook as all the stories plus one extra.
I don't know, man. I keep trying, getting discouraged and burnt out, and coming back to try again. Like pushing a boulder up a hill.
>>23301009>>23301021Thank you
Wheelock is the best
Do LLPSI while reading Wheelock, and of course grinding your Anki deck.
>>23301442don't do this, this is like those cowards who say 'just use olive oil' cuz they're too scared to say either use butter or vegetable oillanguage acquisition has gained large strides in the last hundred years. we now know input is far, far more important than learning grammar. after all, what does a baby learn first? just use lingva latina, part 1 and 2, and maybe the colloquium and disco books if you really want more. graded reading and learning through context is far, far better.Read more about it here https://caligula.org/Nature_Method_Institute.htmlyou can also see how it works by seeing an old english version from the 50's~ https://archive.org/details/english-by-the-nature-method/Graded reading, if you can, is the best way to learn. with wheelock you learn the skill of translation, with familia romana, you learn the language.
>>23300908>Do grammar exercises (LLPSI) >Buy a loebs of your target authorDo exercises (as many times as necessary) and read dual text until content with skills. Ta-da
>>23301468>vegetable oilEnjoy your tits
LLPSI and some kind of grammar guide or book. You're not supposed to read LLPSI on its own, you should have the companion to it.
>>23302043LLPSI has grammar sections after every single chapter thoughbeit
>>23302057It does but I found the companion to be really helpful when going through it
>>23300997Italians can barely speak latin, maybe try the vatican instead.
>>23300908Wheelock
>>23301418Just bought that
>>23300922>>23301009>>23301021>>23301418>>23301468>>23302043Does it matter if you only want to be able to READ Latin, and don't care about writing it? (That's probably most people.)Of course it might be that translating things from English (or whatever) into Latin is the best way to learn Latin. "Only the doer learns" as Herr Nietzsche said.
>>23302692You learn to read by readingYou learn to write by writingYou shouldn't begin to write until you have a solid grasp of the written language and you have things you actually want to express in the language
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>>23302043Frankly, getting another grammar guide isn't necessary. What's in LLPSI is more than sufficient to understand what each case/tense does. Americans who never learned basic grammar are, of course, exempted from this observation.
>>23301194Not true. The Vivarium Novum edition has about 150% more text compared to the original. The Italian Athenaze remains the best textbook for AG.
I just finished Lingua Latina, and though I enjoyed the natural method I think it left some gaps in my grammar. Is there another textbook that anyone would recommend? I am thinking of doing Wheelock’s. I still have a lot of difficulty reading complex sentences. (I’ve also done the Familia Romana workbook and several LLPSI readers.)
>>23300997>Clueless American Tourist Busts Out Perfect Latin, Shocks Locals
>>23303650Yeah but the workbook for the English book (which you’ll need for practice) contains every one of Miraglia’s stories plus an exclusive one as “translation exercises”, but you can just read them as normal
OP here. I bought Lingva Latina and Wheelock's Latin.
>>23300997holy basedlocals shocked, american rocked!
>>23300908>>23300985Brenton's OT and Jerome's Vulgate. I'm not even Christian but they're the best.Also:>>23301418is the best reference grammar as far as reference grammars go. It's better than far more expensive material. It's better than materials made for other languages.
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If your book orders declensions in the traditional order I will not read it.
>>23303971It was a long time ago, but when I learned it in school the declensions went: Nom Acc Gen Dat Abl
>>23303971NomGenDatAccAblmakes most sense for anyone who's going to study more classical languages past latin
>>23304012This is exactly how my school taught it. A AE AM AS AE ARUMAE IS A IS >>23304023Why
>>23304035>Whygrammars for languages such as classical greek and sanskrit follow a similar order
>>23304012I prefer this:>Nom>Acc>Dat>Gen>Abl if applicable>learn vocative as a side rule not during initial researchThis worked best in German, Norse, and both classical and modern Greek to me.
>>23300985A quick run through Logos Lingua Graeca Per Se Illustrata into Athenaze + Mastronarde.
>>23304371>MastronardeHis info dumps are demoralizing but necessary. His instruction style is either for the determined idiot or the patient learner.
idk im a cambridge latin course tranny according some poster months ago, i picked the third edition because it had a nice cover
Is Latin a good language to learn if you want to learn a lot of European languages? I want to learn Latin, Irish, Russian and Greek at the least, maybe Italian and Polish but I would have to see how I would get on with other languages first. I would think it would help as it is a root language sort of. I started learning the very basics of Latin and I was amazed at how much I already knew even though I only speak English. And being Irish, the long vowels came very natural because they are basically the exact same as in Irish. Which has me thinking it will be easy to learn and will help me learn other languages too. Is this true?
>>23305273It's only helpful for Romance languages
>>23305273>Is Latin a good language to learn if you want to learn a lot of European languagesYes. It rewires you to getting accustomed to cases and tenses you're not used to using. I remember my Latin teacher thought I was a dummy because I kept forgetting cases on the fly but then we got to tenses and she thought I was the smartest one in her classes because the six tenses seemed intuitive. Anyways, you may hit roadbumps on the aspects you're not used to but that's a good thing that transfers as a skill to many other languages.
>>23305338Ah, well I still want to learn it>>23305361>you may hit roadbumps on the aspects you're not used to but that's a good thing that transfers as a skill to many other languagesReally? What kind of skills? I also heard it is good to learn if you want to code
>>23305417>Really? What kind of skills? I also heard it is good to learn if you want to codeMaybe. I had never considered the connection, but if you're a logic based learner then probably. That is- by looking at the structures. I think the other guy is retarded. Roots learning is only marginally helpful. By far the more useful aspect is applying logic to learning the structures.
>>23305428I like the fact that I can read many prehistoric creatures names. That's what got me into it in the first place, that and finding out just how much words in English are derived from Latin. It's really fun to research so far, I am really considering learning it fully. I want to read Latin literature too. I have to learn it now. There is too many motives for me to learn it, that not learning isn't an option anymore even if it isn't going to help me much with other languagesThanks for answering my questions
>>23300997that video is a goldmine
>>23302692If you can read it, you can write it, and vise versa.
>>23305734Absolutely incorrect.
>>23305734I can read a hundred pages of French per day but I cannot write even basic sentencesIt's not that I'm just worried about writing ungrammatical sentences, it's that I have no active vocabulary at all
>>23304268Sanskrit has:NomAccInstrDatAblGenLocso I'm not sure where you're getting that from. This specific order is significant because the native names for the cases are simply the cardinal numbers of this order (i.e. genitive is sasti vibhakti, sixth case).If I recall correctly, Mastronarde, for Ancient Greek, did use your order (nom gen dat acc), though.
>>23300997>>23303860>>23303897>>23305727What an unlikeable person
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>>23305727What's the name?
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