How is it even in literary communities both in real life and online, even here, I come across a vast majority of people who also hate reading and analyzing difficult texts? Literally, you join a community and you hate what the community and hobby/art stands for. Literature is the single most self-defeating art form there is, despite it being the easiest to start (literally, speaking can be literature as per oral tradition) yet simultaneously the most difficult to master and the one with the most potential for genuine change in humanity (no other work of art has impacted humanity as much as the Bible) I want to write books that take time to really read, that encourage supplementary materials and taking notes and re-reading and dissolving of one's ego and taking on the task of upholding the virtue of immortalizing characters (the Other) through the text itself. Literature is SUPPOSED to be about doing this, in varying degrees. It's SUPPOSED to be about taking the same text and applying different hermeneutics to it to derive different outcomes and new facets of understanding to take back into your everyday life, now enriched, by virtue of those characters so different from yourself.
>>24869342>Literature is SUPPOSED to be...Who made that determination? Sounds like something you made up in your head and which has very little relationship to the way literature has actually been conceived of and practiced by human beings. Sure, some literature is about this. But trying to reduce an art form to a single purpose is generally a fool's endeavor
>>24869342There is a type of human called The Nerd, who has a constant and deep need to be intellectually superior, you always find them in intellectual communities starting annoying discussions and leaving meaningless one sentence replies.
>>24869349Humanity has always deeply interacted with texts in this way. Stop trying to casually rewrite history to fit your Mr. Casual Cool Guy attitude.>>24869350No desire for superiority, just to find equally passionate people.
>>24869342The curtians are allowed to just be blue. Literature is anything that is written down and treated as such. 4chan posts are literature. I spend 8-10 hours a day reading and writing literature (4chan's /lit/-literature community). You're just a dweeb building castles of sand in his imagination.
>>24869355>Mr. Casual Cool Guy attitudeWhat are you talking about. Are you 14
>>24869342What kind of literary communities do you mean? General reading or something with a specific focus? I've briefly been in general reading communities online and I get what you mean. I'd think a community with a focus on a difficult author would be more inclined to the analysis you seek. Iirc there is a community for Finnegans Wake where they read one page at a time and discuss it.
>>24869358In real life, my city's wide variety of literary publications, to which I get invited to attend their dinner parties and outings, I am forced to essentially shut my mouth talking about literature because it seems that the editors of local zines just do it simply because they don't want to work a real fucking job. I work 50 hours or more a week and write and read every single fucking day and I have so much energy that I feel people just straight up do not have. It's insulting and depressing seeing how even in so called literary spaces, people are just as hostile to literature as normies are. Online, yeah I was part of a Pynchon server but it was mostly just vague unmoderated rambling (in4 that's what Pynchon is) and there was no genuine movement oriented anything that separated it from casual hobby stuff. >>24869356Sandersonfags actually believe this. >>24869357You are being performatively nonchalant to juxtapose against my overtly and intense demeanour, simply to give off a feigned appearance of being easy going (ergo, a cool guy)
>>24869356>I spend 8-10 hours a day reading and writing literature (4chan's /lit/-literature community).Found the Nerd!
>>24869342Ah yes, obfuscated fart jokes are the truest form of literature
>>24869386Not the biggest Joyce fan, so I agree with you in spirit but I would be a fool to dismiss him entirely
>>24869364>In real life, my city's wide variety of literary publications[...]Correct me if I'm wrong but they sound like marketing events for the latest releases in fiction. I wouldn't expect someone with that job to be heavily invested in highbrow literature.
>>24869408I would assume their general distaste in contemporary fantasy to be a general sign that some people there are at least somewhat well-versed in it, especially considering I saw a copy of The Savage Detectives on the Editor in Chief's home bookshelf.
>I want to write books that take time to really readBe wary of going down the "serious" writer path. You can find yourself caring more about the words themselves than what the words are saying, caring more about words than people or ideas.
>>24869420This is my biggest focus. Some people I send my writing too actually say I focus more on paragraphs over words desu. I am always extremely careful
>>24869342People are allowed to do things just for fun. Not every film enjoyer has to be a cinephile critic. Not every music lover has to be able to play an instrument and understand music theory. Who is this hateful person you are imagining anyway? I don't see them.
>>24869342You are supposed to build what you can't find in the world, not cry about it not existing
>>24869342I agree anon, but this is what they meant by the intelligent being lonely.
>>24869342>I want to write books that take time to really readjust write a few short stories that prove you can write, and then people will be more open to your difficult novel
>>24869342This painting goes hard
>>24869461already published with the aforementioned literary journals, how else do you think they would know or care to know me?
