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Fucking Jon Lennon gets shot for making a passing jab at Jesus but the piece of shit who wrote the most disgusting book ever written got to die in his bed?
Fuck this dude.
Him and everyone who has ever said a kind word about the "book" lolita should be lined up against a fucking wall.
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FUCK HIM for shitting on Dostoevsky
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>>24928773
That would be boring, his father got shot already
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>lolita bad
>no mention of hogg which is far worse
Hmmm
Also I guarantee anyone complaining about Lolita hasn't read it
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>>24928838
Why the FUCK would i read it?!?
Everyone who reads it seemingly becomes a brain dead zombie who says it's good.
They lose all ability to condemn the shit for what it is; it's like they've had their consciousness sucked out of them and they've become a puppet of a 50 year dead pedophile.
I dont want to read lolita for the same reason i dont want to watch child porn; it's disgusting and i dont in anyway want to reduce my disgust to it.
Every single one of you people should be drawn and quartered; seriously.
Someone should take a fucking hacksaw to your guts and se what's inside cause it sure as shit ain't human anymore.
You've become something lower, something more primitive, an unthinking baying beast who worshipers at the alter of a blood "god" you have no reason to follow other then to state your own fathomless fucking degeneracy.
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>>24928860
So you haven't read it, thanks for proving my point
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>>24928867
WHAT FUCKING POINT?
I have not watched child porn either; doesn't make me hypocrite for being against child porn.
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OP 100% wants to fuck kids and this is just projecting their internalized pedophilia
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>>24928860
Tone your faux outrage down a bit fag
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>>24928875
Yeah sure dude; everything's polor opposing insecurity complex.
Everyone who hates fags secretly wants to be a fag.
Everyone who is afraid of spiders secretly wants to fuck a spider.
Fucking retard.
>>24928876
You are the scum humanity and there is a hell and you will go there because you will continue to be this same shit until the day you die
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>>24928884
>posting on the pedophile fourm
>huh im the only guy here who dosent want to fuck kids

sure buddy
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>>24928887
Believe what you want to believe dude but where else would be a better place to tell pedophiles to go fuck themselves if you want to tell pedophiles to go fuck themselves??
If you want to tell fags their life style is an abomination you dont go to rural kentucky; you go to LA.
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>>24928773
John Lennon was also a child fucker but he was murdered because he was going to go against the government.
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>>24928838
>Also I guarantee anyone complaining about Lolita hasn't read it
this or it's bait by people who have
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>>24928860
>it's disgusting and i dont in anyway want to reduce my disgust to it.
The difference between child porn and Lolita is that child porn entails consuming the direct product of real child rape. No child is actually raped if you buy a copy of Lolita.
Your reactionary punitive niggerbabble combined with your fundamental misunderstanding as to why child molestation is bad proves that you're either 14 years old or genuinely mentally retarded - both things that mean you should go back to Xitter
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>>24928860
First, you're in the wrong neighbourhood for advocating against pedophilia. The open secret is that 4chan is a crypto-pedophile site. No matter what board you stay on, you'll see that more or less all the board specific topics gravitate towards the genital life of the young, the rape of the young, and heated conversation over loli and shota material. Take the most trad based board: /pol/. It's obsessed with Epstein, Indian child rape, nigger child rape, Jew child rape, pedophile teachers, pedophile conspiracies, legal status of loli pornography, and a lower age of consent. You don't need to be a psychologist to see the obvious. The same is true for other boards. It's an obvious trend that pedophilic material achieves meme status on every board. And here, on /lit/, it manifest in an obsession with Lolita (the fact loli is etymologically related to the book may play a role, too), and in an unhealthy and perverted understanding of Lolita as pro pedophilia book.
Second, a person of average intelligence will have the same reaction as you upon reading Lolita. It's a genuinely horrifying book that is made more horrifying by the prose. And normal people, not 4chan autists who think in absolutes and lack any understanding of nuance, hence everything is either bad or good to them, can understand that the subject matter is horrific but the execution is masterful. Your complain is that a horror book is written well, as if you can't write horror with an aesthetic prose. Poe did it. Lovecraft did it. Why not Nabokov?
Third, it's not the most disgusting book. The sexual scenes are far and few, and they're written in a veiled style, so no "he fucked her raw" and stuff that you can find on AO3 or 4chan. There are more disgusting pedophile books out there. Books that not even pretend to be a cautious tale about pedophilia or to be expounding the horrors of pedophilia. Hogg. Everything by Burroughs after Queer. Everything homosexual, in general. Even Stephen King, the epitome of mainstream, has very dubious kid material that makes Nabokov read like a puritan prude.
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>>24929280
Fourth, it's just a book. Hope to God to never ever see a pedophile in action. I've seen. Ten years ago.
I was walking through Nomme, a high income suburban district of Tallinn, at the time of the blue hour, or rather gray hour, of dreadful autumn day. Trees looked skeletal. The ground looked like the hair of a wet dog. The Nomme houses, Estonian version of McMansions, two storey high affairs of uniform white colour with red or black shingled sloping roofs, looked like cubic and flattened tombstones of an antediluvian race of nephilim when seen against the background of a sempiternally static gray sky. I was contemplating, thinking. Wondering what to do with my life.
A movement in the window to my right, a billowing of a hepatic yellow curtain, attracted my attention. A girl, aged 12 to thirteen, obviously Russian - long blonde hair, rustled and disheveled, and Pacific Ocean blue eyes - appeared from behind the waffled cloth. She pressed herself against the window and and banged with both hands, fingers splayed, palms against the glass. Her eyes were wide open. Her eyebrows seemed to disappear beneath the rim of hair fringing her forehead. Her mouth was twisted into a snarl. The strap of her white pajama dress that she was wearing had slid down her right shoulder and unveiled...you know what.
Behind her a man, like a shark out of an abyss, from the thick darkness loomed. He was obviously Estonian, since only Estonians can afford to live in Nomme, and the graying Hitler Jugend cut, the graying neckbeard, the pendulous well fed cheeks, and the cadaverous blue eyes, sharing the empty glazed expression of a corpse stranded on the shore of Ganges, gave his nationality away. He was obviously naked, as the dough shaped dough white arms, the fat armoured chest, covered with ember gray pile, and the cirrhosis swollen belly hanging down his paleworm white thighs, implied. The usual high income Estonian, fattened from good food and good drink.
He didn't even look at me. He stared at the girl, eyebrows knitted and lips pouting like an engineer pondering upon technical issues. When he put his bigfoot sized hand on the girl's shoulders and yanked her back, his frown vanished and his pouted mouth turned into a leer, unveiling artificially white teeth. He yanked the girl so hard she turned around and I had to stare at the back of her pale white shirt, shining spectral in the darkness of the room and the funeral heavy grayness of the day outside. The man grabbed the girl by the hand. She stepped inside. The yellow curtain closed. Finis.
I went home. Came down from the shivering fright. Called the police. Explained what happened. Gave the whereabouts. Hoped for justice.
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>>24928773
>People I don't like should die
I would bet money you cried after Charlie Kirk's death
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>>24929283
Nothing happened. The man, who was a university worker and staunch supporter of Estonian national ideas, as I've learned after asking around - because in Estonia everyone more or less knows everyone, it's very hard to be anonymous even if you try - didn't get shit. Not even a slap on the wrist. He continued working, And continues working. In a university regarded as the most female oriented in the country. His reputation wasn't that good. Women didn't like him. Some people told me it's a know fact he diddles kids, especially Russian kids because he thinks Russian kids aren't sentient and deserved it - a common sentiment with regards to Russians in every corner of Estonia - and that nothing could be done about it because of his connections that allows him to get away scot free.
So, if some pedophile horror fairy tale, obviously based on fantasy rather than reality, discombobulates you so much, you're a fucking pussy. Reddit might be up your alley.
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>>24928773
Lolita is small time, anon. Gravity's Rainbow has a nazi fuck two little boys, one white and one black. And a scat section. And a section where the MC narrowly avoids nigger rape. Probably more, haven't gotten that far yet.
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>>24928773
N
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>>24928773
>the most disgusting book ever written
The bait is too obvious, you need to be a little more subtle. Just say it's reprehensible trash, no need to go overboard. I barely read and yet I'm well aware of books that are more disgusting.
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>>24928773
>Fucking Jon Lennon gets shot
Not a great loss for music
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this board really is 50% mediocre bait. anyway love nabby and hate pedos
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>>24928838
As a MAP you're really making this board feel unsafe. Maybe you should try checking your privilege? We can't all be attracted to adults you know
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>>24929283
Faggot
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>>24928860
Decent bait, bit you fumbled it on the second half. I'd tone down the murderfantasy and leave it at "you're all sick pedos!!!"
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>>24929145
>The difference between child porn and Lolita is that child porn entails consuming the direct product of real child rape. No child is actually raped if you buy a copy of Lolita.
>your fundamental misunderstanding as to why child molestation is bad
Does it ever occur to you that someone may just fucking disagree with your premise?
Or even that your premise could be wrong by some base definition of harm caused??
Lolita is WORSE in some ways then child porn as it entails not only the abuse of one child but the thousands who pedophiles have abused because this book brainwashed them into being tolerant of relationships between minors and adults.
It's why are entire intellectual class is made up of pedophiles and pedophile apologists; the veneer of civility and the pretense of sophistication is precisely the problem.
Heidrich Himmler did not cause the holocahst.
The nameless guard of Auschwitz or the nameless SA thug was not the thing that led to the mass slaughter of civilians in death camps.
Hitler was; specifically because of his charisma and his ability to compel the impressionable masses.
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>>24930104
>then
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>>24929280
>First, you're in the wrong neighbourhood for advocating against pedophilia
As i said above dude.
If you want to Tell fags to go fuck themselves to their face you dont go to rural apalachia you go to california.
You go where the pedos are to tell them they suck.
>Second, a person of average intelligence will have the same reaction as you upon reading Lolita. It's a genuinely horrifying book that is made more horrifying by the prose. And normal people, not 4chan autists who think in absolutes and lack any understanding of nuance, hence everything is either bad or good to them, can understand that the subject matter is horrific but the execution is masterful. Your complain is that a horror book is written well, as if you can't write horror with an aesthetic prose. Poe did it. Lovecraft did it. Why not Nabokov?
Your just making an argument for why we should censor Poe and Lovecraft as well dude; but honestly i dont think that stands up.
No one "defends" Poe or Lovecraft's work the same way the defend Lolita.
They have no compelling defenders who speak endlessly (and slavishly) about the """proes"""" of describing cosmic demons or encasing a man in a wall of bricks.
More over child rape is just more immoral then either of these things; its a more of a danger for people to get into their head the idea that adults having sex with children is immoral then it is for them to think fucking fish people or tentacle dragons are normal as this is something that actually exists in the world and can compel people to accept it.
>Even Stephen King, the epitome of mainstream, has very dubious kid material that makes Nabokov read like a puritan prude.
Where does King ever portray a sexual relationship between an adult and a minor as acceptable/sympathetic?
>>24929283
Thanks for proving my point dude.
You read lolita and so you were compelled to write this.
You aren't really human anymore.
You are just a thing which does a thing; a mindless puppet compelled by instinct to do what you do without reason or ability to resist.
You are a soulless husk.
You are Nabokov's Gollum.
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>>24930138
TL;DR
Nabokov good
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>>24930143
Not an argument
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I shan't lie I checked Lolita out because I thought most of his criticisms of other authors were funny and spot on and boy was I disappointed by the lack of discernible talent and the overwhelming feeling that what I was reading was highly contrived, self-conscious, and entirely disposable



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