Return of Erotic Fantasy Edition>Old:>>25050922>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>25055974>Nynaeve tugs her braid
>>25055974Erotic fantasy you say? I had the displeasure of reading this shit which is romantasy for horny men.>‘Her lips were flame and frost upon my skin, kissing me in all the places mortal girls feared to tread. I kissed her just the same, sinking between her thighs as she plunged me into her mouth, and the taste of her near drove me mad. We moved slow in the dark, smothering our sighs in each other’s secrets until there was nothing but the inevitable, nothing but the fire awaiting us both. She clawed and she pleaded “Fuck me, fuck me’ and as I slipped into her, slow and deep and hard, there was nothing else in all the world that mattered. No divinity but the want in her eyes. No eternity in hell I wouldn’t have gladly suffered if I could have lived just one more moment of the heaven inside her.
>>25055974>Erotic FantasyIs any of their shit good? I get the feeling romantasy is not erotic fantasy.
Subtitle drop...I get it now....
>"Oh, would that be Stonny Menackis? No doubt as unpleasant as ever, my dear, though I still lay down my heart at your feet.">"Unwise," Stonny drawled. "I never step lightly."Is that a hecking Yeats reference in my epic fantasy series? Based if true.Also while I'm on the topic, how are you meant to pronounce Stonny? Is it like a "stony" shore or Johnny starting with an St or something else entirely
>>25055997EF was fantasy aimed at women with erotic spiciness, whereas romantasy is just porn for women that's not interested in actually telling a story. There's a difference.
>>25055997>I get the feeling romantasy is not erotic fantasy.Not per se, but it does scratch the itch for particularly sheltered women who can't work up the nerve to read anything more explicit. Romantasy is smutty by the standards of sheltered suburban housewives.
>>25056022I pronounce it to rhyme with Johnny, but Erick's pronunciation guides are all over the place.
erotic fantasy is just anime
Post the>last book you read>current book you are reading>next book you plan to read
>>25056056Romantasy isn't even particularly lewd. People get the wrong idea about it because they don't understand male vs female standards for porn. Men are extremely visual and physical, women are more emotional. For women it's less about graphically describing sex acts and anatomy, and more about the scenario and the internal experience of either or both participants. Men who pick up a book described as "basically porn for women" will be very disappointed at the lack of explicit sexual content and how half the book is just build up for a sexual encounter that is 90% foreplay (by male standards).
>>25056078Spellmonger book 7Spellmonger book 8Spellmonger book 9
>>25056078>>25056085The Sword in the StoneThe Witch in the Wood AKA The Queen of Air and DarknessThe Ill-Made Knight
Anything more like pic rel and All Tomorrows?
>>25055993That's book three. There two equally thick books and they're both full of that stuff, and you read them, so don't come preaching
>>25056078 Lake of Darkness by Adam RobertsAlastor by Jack VanceSenlin Ascends by Josiah Bancroft
>>25055997My ex was really in love with this.The female MC is born with a condition that makes her a masochist. Like, it's a physical thing. This inevitably brings her into all manner of bondage situations and political intrigue, but she is just a girl who needs to find herself. Except when she finds a man who sees her as a person and not a sex toy or political tool she cucks him regularly because that's her nature
why do women love court intrigue fantasy so much? Chinese drama shows that have this trope tend to be pretty popular among women as well
>>25056152Court Intrigue is basically gossip powerfantasy.
>>25056152Same reason men like warrior stories. It's a somple power fantasy
>>25056157>I Was Reincarnated into the Emperor's Harem but My Curly Hair Got Me Placed into 'F' Tier and Now I Have to Climb to 'A' with Only My Secret Ability to Read Minds Before I'm Gifted to some Loser Minister?!
>>25056177How do you print that title on the cover and still have room for an illustration?
>>25056207The wonder of ideograms
>>25056207Have you seen LN covers?
I, for one, think low tech fiction is best.
>>25056304caveman fiction?
>>25056334Soft SF?
>>25056334Also yes.
>Another Serwe perspective series of pagesIs the entire point of Serwe just a flex that Bakker can right a stupid as fuck, irrelevant annoying dumb character with the most surface level of perspectives ever since every other character so far, even the whore is mildly mentally competent and interesting on their own?
According to this Harlan Ellison interview with Robin Williams, L. Ron Hubbard asked in a Hydra Club meeting (club full of scifi authors; he also mentions in the interview Sprague de Camp being autistic about humor in one of the meetings) how to make money, and Lester Del Rey gave him the idea to start a religion.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9AGVARpqdk
>>25056521I mean, we've had Catholicism literally show us that people can be guilted into dropping more than they spare into a tray.
Can a story narrated in a very stilted fashion work?
>>25055997I read that one and while I sometimes enjoy romantasy, Kushiel's Dart was too boring and cringy.
>>25056566Follow up: if you have examples, please share them.
>>25056566yes, since I'm sure there are a number of people who find Shakespeare, Goethe and similarly old classic works to sound very stilted yet are entertained by them.
Ever since the introduction of Serwe the writing has felt fucking meandering. How many times am I going to get an entire chapter focused on nothing but the thoughts of a woman about another man impreganating her or having sex with her, as something vaguely relevant and "important" happens in the backgroundBO-ring
>>25055993>Slow and deep and hardBro literally namedropped a Type O Negative album in the middle of his sex scene. Empire of the Vampire is the cringiest series ever written. Anyone older than 14 who has read this entire book needs to be rangebanned from life.
>>25056078>last book you readSpellbound by Larry Correia. Excellent. Every book I've read by Correia has been enjoyable.>current book you are readingThe Emperor's Finest: A Ciaphas Cain Novel by Sandy Mitchell>next book you plan to readI don't know. Maybe the Gaunt's Ghosts novel I picked up yesterday, maybe I'll jump back into Warcraft: War of the Ancients, maybe I'll go for something a little more cerebral.
>>25056152As the other anon said, "court intrigue" is basically just weaponized gossip, something very familiar to any female over the age of, say, 11 years old. It's all about prying into other people's business and uncovering secrets which are always scandalous and/or obscene instead of just boring, contemptible, or pathetic. Why was that one courtier sneaking around with the pretty maid? Was he banging her? No it was actually a part of a huge conspiracy to kidnap the royal heir! But you don't find that out until the heroine has successfully sleuthed her way through a dozen mundane rumors first.
>>25056008
>>25056207Very small print.
Its getting good again. Somebody just spoil it for me and tell me when Serwe dies so I can have something of finality to look forward to.
Runt thought. It was one thing Runt was good at. No one yelled at Runt for thinking, so she must be good at it.
How do I relate to erotic fantasy if I've never had sex irl?
>>25056798Relating to books is perhaps the lowest tier of reading. I read stuff to vicariously experience things I've never seen or done before.
>>25056798How do I relate to fantasy when I've never fucked an elf or slapped an orc's tusks off?
>>25056078>last book you readConfessions of a Mask>current book you are readingGardens of the Moon>next book you plan to readProbably something by Gene Wolf that isn't a part of any Sun series
>>25056078Is Marrow good? Never heard of this before.
>>25057134Yes, in my opinion. It leads into many many stories within its 'verse. Imagine a Jovian-class (Jupiter) sized Great Ship circumnavigating the galaxy as a cruise vessel, accepting several alien species and allowing them their own habitats--all with the personality and intrigue of those who run the Ship. There are three versions of Marrow: a short fiction, a novel, and a retcon short. I would suggest reading the novel and if you enjoy the author's voice then continue into its sequel.
>>25055974Gimme a good book in that genre, preferably non male gaze. Oh and non-shit.How's ACOTAR? I wanted to read that for shits n giggles, but it's probably the sloppiest slop, right?
>>25056078>lastSister Alice and Waging Good by pic relatedTrials of Magic and Courage by Ty Johnston--which I owe a review of the latter.I mistakenly thought Waging Good was part of the Sister Alice stories.The Sister Alice stories are about hyper-advanced uber godhumans who can terraform and shape planets and systems to their whim but still focuses upon the characterization.Waging Good--a standalone short story--involved a woman carrying a parasite within her womb, to destroy her home habitat on the Farside of the moon, as a form of revenge for her "friends" pulling a prank and sending her to desolated Earth.>currentBrother Perfect, the next Sister Alice story. >nextI plan to work through the five Sister Alice stories, and to finish the other stories in this Johnston collection, of which I have read two so far.
>>25056814thisall this relate this, I need to self insert here, etc is extremely low iqIt's why jews/self hating whites feel the need to insert blacks into every tv show now.
Reading Stephen Donaldson's short story collection Daughter of Regals and Other Tales. The title story has the female mc almost get RAPED and I couldn't take it seriously because of all the conversation around Donaldson's books on /sffg/ revolving around rape.Also reading Shadowmarch by Tad Williams. Tad is always super easy to read and entertaining, but so far it's been pretty generic as far as fantasy goes.
>>25057517I just got done reading Child of an Ancient City by Tad Williams and loved it.
>>25055993>>25055997Are there any erotic fantasy novels aimed towards men other than Gor?
>>25057517>>25057526Tad Williams is great. I would highly recommend Otherland if you want a cyberpunk epic.
>>25057539Disregard novels, embrace Richard Corben comics
>>25057210OK sounds cool, I'll download that tonight.
>>25057539I thought Gor was more BDSM.
How would one go about finding objective opinions about a book like this?Chuds here will be racist and libs on Reddit and Goodreads will glaze over the author's skin colour.
>>25057542>rescues a woman>she immediately rewards him with pussysimpler days
>>25057593You don't, even if he published under a pseudonym of a White male it would be panned and if he had a white female pseudonym he would have been glazed. Welcome to modern publishing, it matters more who you are than what you do or how you write.Which makes almost all reviews useless and ignorable.
>>25057596Better days, even if I prefer the more traditional hero story where he saves the damsel and she pledges her life to him and both of them are highly attractive people with no ill will inside of them.
>>25057593It might sound crazy to you but most people outside of Reddit don’t really care about an author’s skin color.
>>25057600They care a lot about it here.
>>25057602no we didn't unless you bring that exact topic here on purpose
>>25057600Everyone cares about skin color the only people that don't are majority white communities, which are becoming more exceedingly rare as white birth rates drop and as majority white areas are labeled as racist and there are active private, public, and government campaigns to diversify them.If this era has 1 lesson to teach, it's that everyone cares about race and the people who don't are dying out.
>>25057600i dont care about skin colour, but I wont read a book by a women or a homo.
>>25057542>DenSuch a shame the sequel is so much worse. Everyone just yaps endlessly and something got lost with the improved art.
>>25057600>>25057605>Just lays down and accepts they are going to be replaced.I honestly think this has to do more with your lack of self-worth than it does "le ebil racism".
>>25057606thisthe ancient Greeks were the same way, they cared more about culture than about pedigree, only to be out-competed by the Romans, a far dumber and less creative but more persistent people, who cared about pedigree. The biggest irony is that since Greek culture was so open that it eventually consumed Rome when it became an Empire but that was literally after 1,500 years of Roman occupation. In many cases the people who professed to love the Greeks would also be people who the Greeks would never grant full citizenship too.
>>25057614>be racist and have a long lineage of people who look like you and feel culturally connected to you>die out but have a bunch of outsiders who would never truly be considered insiders that recontexualize your whole culture and then claim its actually your culture with little to no genetic or visual similarity to yougrim
>>25055993I actually read the whole thing because I thought it would go somewhere interesting and I like vampire stories. The entire thing was a slog and it really felt, since the very start, that the author wrote every single bit of it hoping and dreaming of a netflix adaptation. I really mean this, it's how every character and even feel like, like he just wanted that juicy check. The erotic parts were terrible to read through, very terrible. And what's worse, the author, in his thirst for adaptation money, not only added gay characters, which is fine, or at least whatever, but insisted on writing sex scenes for them while also being painfully straight. He wrote gay sex worse than a horny 14 yo asian fujo on Ao3. Still, I persevered, I thought that the format of the book, a reverse interview with the vampire, was also a device that aimed at adaptation, but it was enjoyable and felt like a fresh excuse to constantly change PoVs, which can be awkward or just feel like the author is edging you like in Red Rising, where the PoV changes just so you can't finish any event on anybody and have to keep playing narrative hopscotch. This is supposedly to add a feeling of movement or momentum to the story but it usually just annoys me. So I wanted to see where it went.It went to shit, is where it went. I have never read an actually published novel where the ending is not only a disappointment in every conceivable way, but also manages to insult your intelligence in just as many ways. I felt cheated out of my time alive on this earth. Like some cosmically evil being seeking the entropic end of the universe through bad literature.For those that care As I said, the framing device is a vampire interviewing the mc and his sister. At the end the story "catches up" with the time of the interview where it's revealed that it was all a lie by them in order to trick the vampire; every character death and conflict and stake and emotion you experienced is undone. Every side character that died was actually alive and wonderful and the good guys win in the course of 10 pages and that's that. This happens 50-ish pages from the end of the last book. Like the author watched Rashomon for the first time. The interviewing vampire that you read for 3 books and not only befriended by the main character, but didn't even kill a lot of people like the bad guys has a throwaway line about how he probably killed like hundreds anyways, so they imprison him for eternity anyways. But hey, you get lesbian princesses who will rule the whole world kissing over the sunrise in the final scene.
>>25056781She dies pretty quickly don't worry
>>25057671Well written and my thoughts exactly. I sort of semi enjoyed it going through the series. It wasn't brilliant, but it was what it was. The stakes felt real with characters dying and being maimed and as you said, the ending just made everything ridiculous. The unreliable narrator part of it made me look at everything in the the trilogy in a negative way. Did anything even happen that way if the ending was just a complete 180 of what we were already told? They may as well have said it was all a dream because that would have felt less insulting.
>>25056781I know esmenet is universally hated here because she cucked aca but she's a better character than nearly the entire cast, serwe was so shit.
Friends I'm torn between reading the first law trilogy or the powder mage trilogy. I've been told they're similar in style. Haven't read anything by either author. Which one do I pick?
>>25057713You are either trolling or someone was trolling you.
>>25057713Both are fun but I think First Law is better in story, writing and characters
>>25057713 Theyre both shit choices.
>>25055993I thought the first book was decent but each successive one was more shit. And the twist was absolutely retarded and pure deus ex machina. Celene had to be a ragebait character, that's for sure.
>>25057713Does >tfw too intelligent >normalfags will never understand Describe you? Then read the first law.Otherwise read powder mage
>>25057539Backyard Goblins 1-3Fertile Valley 1Goblin Girl Maid ServiceUrban SorcerorWarwitch AcademyMonster girl HaremPledged to HimWild Wastes 1
>>25057539I've heard good things about Trailer Park Elves
Any fantasy or sci-fi in a non depressive setting? The opposite of stuff like Mistborn with all the mist and darkness, or Dune with the whole sand and moisture thing.For example, something like the Fable games or the Mass Effect 1 citadel
>>25057821Harry Potter. Star Wars.
>>25057600>t. delusional faggot
>>25057821Walter's Moers' Zamonia novels
>>25057856I like how Walter Moers is slowly worming his way to becoming a staple of these threads
>>25057821if youre OK with comedy try Discworld or even his other series with Baxter (The Long Earth). Older sci-fi have sorta cartoonish settings that arent that dark like The Mote in God's Eye. Ive noticed British authors tend to be less dark/depressing than others, so Purgatory Mount is interesting (Adam Roberts) and also The Algebrist by Iain Banks.In terms of fantasy id recommend The Riftwar Cycle by Feist and maybe the Drenai series by David Gemmell. And of course The Hobbit, if you havent read it.
Is there anything as comfy as Ilona Andrews books? I blazed through Kate Daniels
>>25057872If you're talking their urban fantasy books then the early Anita Blake books (pre-smut) or The Hollows series.
>>25057824Can't go wrong with Dragonlance, the official novelization for Dungeons&Dragons. Every classic fantasy trope played completely straight.
>>25057892Dragonlance was never the official dnd campaign setting nor was it the first to be novelized.
>>25057892Dragonlance was amusingly the only instance where novels were more popular than the campaign setting itself.
>>25056743>Bro literally namedropped a Type O Negative album in the middle of his sex scene.As you should.
>>25057813He asked for a book, not your early life section
>>25057821Xanth
>>25057713The First Law was a fun read, don't listen to the haters.
>>25057981 You have to be at least 18 to post here.
>>25057713Havent read powder mage, but First Law is very good after its slow start
>>25057713Abercrombie is a hack writer with a dudebro attitude. He lazily constructs a setting with cliches and has no understanding of military organization or operations but still insists on writing extensively about such things in his books. Near as I can tell he does no research for anything he writes, and goes off of "vibes". His setting "feels medievaly" is the best way I can describe it. It's basically just window dressing for character drama, except he quickly reveals he has but one trick up his sleeve to keep the story going and that is to continuously beat down his characters with misery and tragedy. He is a stupid person's idea of "gritty" fantasy.
>>25057713Powder mage is Mistborn but with muskets.First Law is safe edge Quentin Tarantino in book form, for redditors to pretend they're cool for reading le grimdark books.
>>25057713I read the first Powdermage book but I lost interest in the series because I felt the author revealed too much of the mystery of the setting early on and there was nothing keeping me invested in it. I didn't want to find out more about anything, the initial conflict was devoid of interesting characters, and from what I recall the protagonist was rather pathetic.
This entire sequence genuinely had me so gripped I was almost shakingAnd then its followed after by the brilliant useless writing of Esemenet being groped by Celebrating Inrithi, and then punching some retard in the face whos entire writing suggesting an imposing tallness and strength (should have included retardation) made pointless.I've just accepted at this point, that I must weather retarded sex, or rape, when reading this character, as that is all she is. Something a slave not just to circumstance or herself. But a slave to condition.
>>25057821IDK, Lyonesse? It's not a happy story really, but the setting isn't inherently dark or depressing. It's got fairy tale castles, good wizards, bad wizards, fairies (who are equal parts whimsical and terrifying) and other fantastical creatures and beings. I'd generally recommend Lyonesse by Jack Vance in general for somebody exploring fantasy. It's worth reading at least once.
>>25057713Powder Mage, but only because of how bad First Law is. Powder Mage is a cotton candy series with no substance. It's fun, it's enjoyable, it's incredibly lightweight. The anon that described it as POV-slop was right on the money--each chapter is from a different POV and ends on a cliffhanger to trick you into reading further. The author clearly has no military experience or knowledge because the amount of insubordination that occurs and is just ignored starts to get ridiculous as the book goes on.
>>25057713I like First Law, it's entertaining in the "turn our brain off and enjoy the ride" sort of way. Haven't read Powder Mage. A lot of people seem really negative on Abercrombie but I think that's just because he's too popular for obnoxious contrarians to enjoy.
>>25058005It's not just a book but a whole book series and I wish I was an elf, I'd be able to see in the dark and shit.
Seriously I have to ask. What is the point of sequences of dialogue like this?What depth am I being presented with? What am I learning or understanding deeper about Esemenet or her world? To prove im not sexist, though I hate women. I also questioned this at first regarding Kellhus' interludes with the Pragma and repeating "The Logos has no beginning and no end" but at the very least. It served some perspective and insight into something that cant truly be understood. The experience of a non experiencer.But with Esemenet everything is so base, so on the surface so immediate, almost by ironic definition. She makes everything simple by virtue of her branding. Every action somebody takes against her, is no more complex, than taking advantage of her, or her enjoying somebody taking advantage of her. Every interaction with her is reduced to how shes treated. Everything is filtered through that lense.She has "character" that brings out no characterWhereas Kellhus has no "character" that brings out perspectives, understanding, judgements, truths, that would never be seen, or contexualized without his interaction and probing.Before Cnauir interacted with Kellhus, I found him interesting, but too simple a slave to his traditions and passions. But with Kellhus hes something more. Kellhus brings more out of him.With Achaiman and Esemenet what do I learn from Achaiman? That he loves and wants to be loved? All I ever learn is the "passions" which are so simple it can be summarized as every other character is summarized"Proyas the Pieous but Skeptical""Conphas the Self Assured""Xerius the Paranoid"I just dont like this stupid fucking character. She wasted so much fucking time and space on the screen crying over how victimized she is, and how much she needs to feel loved and safe, and part of something more than a whore, as she goes and has random sex in the market.I dont fucking care. Its not interesting. None of the characters are really that interesting or deep, but they enhance eachother through interaction with one another and how their perspectives appraise one another.With Esemenet, you already know another through her perspective before she even interacts with them. Because it will always be framed through her victimhood and weakness. How is that deep? How is that interesting?
>>25056781The freeuse vibes go crazy in book 1
>>25058723freeuse?
>>25058724whores that let you fuck them any time like mid-conversation even. it's a current popular porn trend.
Well, finally finished the Darkness that comes Before. If im to listen to what I've heard. It only gets worse for hereinafter
>1200 pagesoh brother
managed to get it to 1000 pages only with some settings tweaks
>>25058658She's a dirty whore. The only other depth to her character is that shes sort of intelligent, she loves her children, and shes an evil, callous bitch. There's nothing else to be read there.
>>25058883That's the best book. If you're not enthralled in the series by the end of that book, don't read the rest.
>>25055974Is T.A. Barron's Merlin Saga worth reading?
>>25056743>starting a sentence with bropeople like you should also be banned
>>25058933https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlmWD0esg5k
>>25055974Is this better than Eragon? Those books were bad but I'll give him a pass because he was a teenager.
>>25058927I was told the first one is the best book. This is encouraging, thanks.
>>25058955It's pretty much a power fantasy, but I liked it.
>>25058919To be fair I dont think any of the characters are too deep. Theyre all, in some way or another, completely carried by passions theyre either barely aware of, or completely a slave to. Ironically Cnauir is probably the most introspective, then followed by Achaiman. The more interesting aspect to me, is how each character reveals more about another character, and through that characters reveals, more about the world and circumstances. Wanting to see everything unraveled is what keeps me going, not the characters in and of themselves for the reasons I laid out.And yes. I know and understand to some degree that "thats the point" that the characters are slaves to their circumstances. I'm just explaining the precursor to why Esmenet is annoying to me.Like Serwe, shes not really smart enough, or interesting enough, or powerful enough to "reveal" much about other characters or the world, and the one character she can do that for (Achaiman) her relationship with, is so simple and on its face that its boring. The most interesting thing about her I remember reading in the first book, was the small inkling of self awareness to realize she didnt really want Achaiman. She wanted his life.After that, shes been completely uninteresting.Because of this, my theory for why she exists in such prominence in this story, can only be for some stupid Deus Ex Machina purpose, further down the line of the books, where she causes something important to happen thats well beyond her established abilities and/or intelligence.Its why ive been sort of wary of criticizing her, because a character that barely enhances the story right now, and wastes pages of words with her simple ponderances, and flourishes of sex with random dudes in random alleyways (what the fuck was that about anyway? is there some important story beat im missing there?) because its very obvious that if shes taking up this many pages, shes going to be forced to be important in some annoying way.
>>25058955read fractal noise insteadto sleep in a sea of stars is disappointing in comparison
>>25058852just buy a fucking ereader
>>25058955>female mcdoubt it
>>25059008I dont love books so, yet. Hopefully I will.
>>25059040We can tell you don't, by the way you put the comma in the wrong, place.
>moot brought back /pol/ immediately after meeting with Epstein The real world continues to make fantasy look quaint. The science fiction dystopias were warnings.
>>25058985Maybe in the No-God she'll serve some actual purpose, but after reading the series she never amounted to anything but a POV for other characters and Achamian's motivation for remaining within the story. I think Bakker somehow wanted us to feel sympathy for an evil slut who had thoughts about Pimping out her 6 year old daughter to men while she watched
>>25059058>I think Bakker somehow wanted us to feel sympathy for an evil slutI think so too. Might have even just been a flex that he could write a debased but intelligent whore. Like mature writers do.
>>25058352Zoomers don't even know what a Type O Negative is.
Finished Empire of Silence. Despite the consensus that it was boring, I enjoyed it. It's clear how 3/4 of the book doesnt scratch the surface of how good the series can be, so I'm jumping into the rest of it immediately.
>>25059199Yeah Calagah convinced me to hang with the seriesThe Demiurge convinced me that the series would be excellent
>>25056078>lastThe Light of Other Days by Baxter and Clarke>CurrentRaft by Baxter>NextEither continue the series or begin my bi-yearly reread of BOTNS. My tolerance for dry hard SF isn't as high as it used to be so I will probably move on after Raft.
>>25059482Which series are you continuing? Because Raft is a poor intro to the Xeelee Sequence, and the previous story you read is not part of it.
what the fuck? can somebody explain why the Myunsai Schoolman tried to kill Eleazaras? Wtf? He just came to him asking for money for his info.What is the implication here?
>The Achamian is a whore chapter-_-
>>25059572From two sentences earlier:>Eleäzaras’s mouth had become very dry. He tried to swallow. “You must stay with us, of course, so that we can … interview you, further.”>The man’s face had become the very picture of dread. “I’m af-afraid that won’t be possible, y-your Eminence. I’m expected back at the Imperial Court.”>Eleäzaras clasped his hands to conceal the tremors. “You work for the Scarlet Spires, now, Skalateas. Your contract with House Ikurei is dissolved.”Eleäzaras pretty much said they're going to torture the shit out of him to get it all. And as the Scarlet Spires have pretty much all the money in the world, and the Mysunsai are greedy fucks there is no reason to 'interview' him when they could just pay him, meaning the main reason for the interview is getting rid of him, as by their nature he'd sell the information to anyone else as well.And if you forgot why Eleäzaras is so triggered by the Cishaurim reread the Achamian Geshrunni talk from the last book.
>>25059616Oh I must have misinterpreted because he said, paraphrasing "This information really is worth more than you presented it".So I thought hed just give it up because moneys not an issue. Now im wondering why he even needed to torture him at all? For what? Wtf else could possibly be said? I think thats the biggest reason it went over my head
A continent located in the far west...ah yes, I got it, I'll name it Westeros! Yes yes!
>>25059623Why can't you keep your random GRRM circlejerk asslicking to the GRRM thread?
>>25059623Ever heard of Australia?
>>25059623Eh it makes sense, Westeros is West, Easteros is East. It's a clever way to communicate quickly where they are in relation to each other on the map without having to remember that BABABOOY is north to MAYMANMAMMA or some other crazy shit.
>>25059673>cleverlol (at you not with you)
>>25059678I made my point and I'm sticking to it. At least he didn't keep the regular months like Tolkien did in LotRs and I don't even like Martin.
>>25059682You think that a western country named Westeros is cleverpfft HAHAHA
>>25059688I do, what would you have named it or are you too afraid to answer that?
>>25059689You think that a western country named Westeros is cleverpfft HAHAHA
why does this guy have a meltdown every time someone brings up GRRM
i'm new to 4chan.org and why does every body who disagrees with me have a complete total MELTDOWN
>>25059692Just gonna spam huh?
>>25059698The fact that you believe an entire country needs to have its cardinal direction in its name speaks more for your intelligence than anything I could ever "spam", by your misguided definition of words.
>>25059703I accept your defeat in not answering my question.
>>25059704You're new to 4chan, and can only communicate in non-sequiturs and ad hominems. Lol.
>>25059707We all can't be winners, champ.
>>25059712>weNo need to continue telling the entire thread how new you are.
>>25059717It's impersonal We, ESL, we as in humanity. I thought you were smart?
>>25059719>ESLNo need to continue telling the entire thread how new you are.
>>25059725Is this really the best you can do?
>>25059726You're new to 4chan, and can only communicate in non-sequiturs and ad hominems. Lol.
>>25059728Funny how you aren't self-aware enough that you don't see the hypocrisy
>>25059740>no uYou're new to 4chan, and can only communicate in non-sequiturs and ad hominems. Lol.
>>25059744bot's stuck in a loop
>>25059771UH OHHHH newfagGPT acting up
>>25059773>newfagGPTI knew it you was you lol, with how repetitive your posts are.
>>25059779You're new to 4chan and you are afraid of an honest conversation. Stop shitting up the thread.
>>25059782You're running out of context, you were the one who couldn't answer my humble question and lost.
Pulp rape scifi related to the goat Epstein.They don't make them like they used to.
>>25059783Lost what? You've been crying for over an hour because I laughed at you for defending GRRM and believing that naming a country a cardinal direction is in any way shape or form intelligent LOL
>>25059784Have you read it?
>>25059787>Austria>Australia>South-Africaetc.
>>25059787Ah, so it has fallen out of context. I'd point out you are projecting but you're honestly so bad at making this anything but boring that I don't want to even bother.
>>25059784https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=%22space+relations%22Read it and tell us how it was.>>25059790Did you misquote?>>25059792Dude. You're new to this website. Why do you keep acting upset and making such a big deal over it?
>>25059793>misquoteNo. Just adding to the conversation of naming countires after cardinal directions.
>>25059793>Dude. You're new to this website. Why do you keep acting upset and making such a big deal over it?Do you think everyone you talk to is the same person?
>>25059795Were Austria and Australia really named after directions? I'm willing to admit ignorance.>>25059797You're new to 4chan and don't understand the concept of pattern recognition, like every other of your kind. You have been spamming buzzwords and newfag rhetoric for 2+ hours LOL
>>25059797He does, everyone he dislikes he makes into 1 person then accuses everyone of being that person because his Indian mind can't tell writing styles apart.
>>25059803>indianYou're new to 4chan.org. Lol.
>>25059802>You're new to 4chan and don't understand the concept of pattern recognition, like every other of your kind. You have been spamming buzzwords and newfag rhetoric for 2+ hours LOLProof?>>25059803I wouldn't be surprised if he is under-18 because all he does is spam.
>>25059802>Were Austria and Australia really named after directions?What the fuck do you think their names mean?
>>25059806Your newfag ass here >>25059673 saying it was clever LOL you will always be a newfag nigger scared of an honest conversation.
>3 threads in a row of newfags trying their hardest to disrupt and prevent discussion of booksWhy?
>>25059812I don't know but its incredibly boring to read because all he does is spam.
>>25059812He's been crashing out about an opinion for a full 4 hours now.
>>25059816>>25059817>samefagging as soon as you possibly canpffft HAHAHAHA
>>25059823
>>25059829>schizoWhy do you keep making such a big deal about being new to 4chan.org/lit?
>>25059829You're better off ignoring the Indian or he is just gonna fill this thread up with his limited vocabulary.
>>25059829>>25059840>samefagging this hard>everybody who disagrees with me is indian because I'm new to 4chanLOL
>>25059840They've evolved from shitting in the street to shitting online lmfao
Protip: trolls starve if you don't feed them.
>>25058930bumping>>25059844this, ignore them
>>25059844This. Report and ignore off-topic posts that serve to disrupt literature conversation, like infantile "everybody who disagrees with me is <x ethnicity>".
>>25059843The good news is that most of the civilized world is asleep while the Indians post so as long as you don't stay up late you won't interact with him.
>Past a certain age, a man spending all his time reading fantasy genre is a bad thing. what age did he mean?
>>25059848The age where you crash out over a name of a continent in GRRM's books on an asian weaving forum :3c
>>25059812Was it a GRRMfag two threads ago? Last thread, it was some /a/ crossboarder shitposting about Dungeon Crawler Carl. Now we have another GRRM shitposter. Did somebody post us on reddit?
>>25059682>At least he didn't keep the regular months like Tolkien didI just looked it up. He created multiple unique names for them in different languages, but in lore LOTR is translated into the modern English equivalents. Why lie?
>>25059856It's 1pm in India, take a guess.
>>25059859I'm not going to discuss a book you so obviously didn't read.
>>25059863I thought you were being serious.
>>25059868Stay on topic
>>2505984818. Then once he turned 30 he started loving the fantasy genre again after realizing he wasn’t into performative reading
>>25059881So what did you mean when you criticized Tolkien for using the regular months? I'm trying to understand your criticism, maybe I'm slow.
>>25059890He used regular months rather than the Shire calendar that he put as Appendix D in the back of the book. Luckily the tengwar book actually corrects this but also brings up other inconsistencies as well.
>>25059895Why would he use the Shire names in the text? That's a deliberate choice for the reader, not an inconsistency, and in lore it's explained as a translation.
>>25059909I know but then why keep appendix D then?
>>25059910If you're translating a text and replace the months to English names for readability wouldn't you add what they're actually called somewhere in the book?
>>25059922Well that's my point what was stopping him from doing something like:>Halimath (September)Instead? I don't think it would effect readability that much, would it? Though I guess he wrote this before computers as well so maybe that was just too much effort and a waste of effort to retype it on a type writer? I don't know.
>>25059931you are retarded
>>25059937>that image>that responseAre you okay? Did you struggle that badly with verficiation?
>>25059931I think it's part of the choice that he uses the hobbits as mediator to the high fantasy part of the world. Tolkien wants to ease the reader into the world, not force you into it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolkien%27s_prose_style#Hobbits_as_mediators_with_the_heroic
What's the Pathologic of /sffg/?
>>25059987Literally almost any Russian literature, unless you are talking about having a supernatural aspect to the game in which case it's going to be hit and miss as most Russian Lit is usually pretty grounded if you can believe it or not.
>>25059889This just happened to me a few months back. I'm 33, currently going through Zelazny's bibliography. I'm way happier now.
>read an old interview with Stephen "Rape" Donaldson>he mentions Tim Powers as one of his contemporary favorites>look him up>wrote the book Pirates of the Caribbean 4 is based on>read the summaries of some of his other books>they sound highly imaginative, no Tolkien rip-off shit but fantastical ideas in both historical and urban settingsWhat's the verdict on Tim Powers here?
>>25060093SD's rape was kinda crazy back in the day, despite people apparently applauding it on the book cover, but by today's standard is fairly tame.
>>25060108>people apparently applauding it on the book coverBecause he's a serious writer and it wasn't done to be edgy, but more as a deconstruction of the usual fantasy MCs and tropes.
>>25057671I only finished the first book because I have trouble stopping a book once I've started. I felt absolutely no desire to read the second or third book because of the language used in the first. "fuck" was written literally on every page of the first book. It was extremely cringy use of language, and repeatedly took me out of the book and setting. Glad I didn't bother reading anymore. Looks like it would have been a massive waste of time and very gay.
>>25057598As well those who are saved should simply reward the savior and, so long as he shows virtue, support him.
>>25060003Even the Gambler?
anyone read this book? seems a bit hard to find and wondering if it is worth the effort to look for it
>>25058927It's the best one for a blow by blow narrative of a war, in terms of plot action the series has a lot more to offer and you shouldn't say that
I need every book you can think of where humans and aliens become friends.
>>25060332Anything by CJ Cherryh>Pride of ChanurHuman captured as a slave by ugly aliens escapes to catgirl aliens. War ensues>ForeignerHumans are a minority on a strange planet. Locals are 7 feet tall midnight black skinned humanoids who eat poison. MC is an ambassador to them. War ensues but also sex.>40.000 in GehennaColonizers sent on purpose to a nightmare planet to fail and die, end up forging a surprising bond. War, you guessed it, ensues. >Downbelow StationAliens are secondary characters but essential to the plot. Crisis ensues.
>>25059848ill stop reading fantasy books when we start seeing them use zoomer ebonics like "cooked", "crash out" and "bruh"
>>25060626Brandon Sanderson is not too far from that now with>I'm his therapist!
>>25060359>>ForeignerIsn't that a long ass series?
>>25060626Might as well raise ruckus over characters saying okay or as if. It's just the latest slang. Fortunately, with people trending towards illiteracy, I don't think this generation is going to be writing much beyond social media.
>>25056084> Men who pick up a book described as "basically porn for women" will be very disappointed at the lack of explicit sexual contentBro which woman’s fantasy are you reading? Upon skimming random pages of these books at the bookstore or at my girlfriend’s house it takes me approximately 15 seconds to find descriptions of throbbing cocks, soaking cunts, sub/dom shit, savage fucking, etc. You’re either lying or haven’t looked hard enough (which isn’t even that hard)
Please pick my next book, anons.Earth AbidesLathe of HeavenWaypoint Leviathan WakesThanks, bros.
>>25060660Lathe of Heaven has the coolest title
>>25060663You don't know SHIT about cool titles, anonette.
>>25060676But All Darkness Met was not on the list of books given?
>>25060676My favorite title? Why, it's from C.S. Lewis, of course!
>>25060701Is this about a dude with down syndrome?
>>25060656There are some books that just tease and nothing actually happens and there's a subset of women who actually love that, generally you'll know if a girl is blasted out if its way more graphic.
>>25060649I think it's 15 books It's her personal goonerverse
>>25060649>22 main novels with 2 prequel short stories and still ongoinghonestly I respect it
>>25060676Cool title wasted on a shit author
>>25060093Declare is a great Cold War spy novel that also happens to be a great urban fantasy novel. It does this really neat thing where the fantasy bits and fictional characters are slotted into the gaps in the historical record while the historical stuff that is well documented is portrayed exactly as it really happened, so historical characters like eg Kim Philby are portrayed as having a secret double life as sorcerers without directly contradicting what we know about their movements and activities in real life. It's my favorite Powers novel and the one I would recommend the most strongly. The Anubis Gates is a little rough because he was a new author and still learning how to write, but it's still fun. The Stress of Her Regard has some great bits but is overall kind of tedious unless you happen to really like Lord Byron and his scene. In general I would recommend Powers, but sometimes he gets really invested in stuff(like the Romantic poets or professional poker) that you might not find interesting, so check the synopsis of his books and skip the ones that appear to focus on boring subjects.
>>25060831She keeps writing space niggers and no Cyteen III yet after 20 years
>>25060332Reed's Great Ship series. Like the other suggested series, it is a long-ass universe. There's a few novels but at a quick count on isfd, there are ~45 stories (mostly shorts) within all of it. I described it here: >>25057210 there's a shitload of different distinct alien types that sometimes form various relationships with important plot figures. Dude's been writing stories about the Great Ship for 25+ years.
Have you ever thought that 4chan posts were all AI generated? There's a site for that now. Soon you won't need to post at all. AI will be doing that for you. 4claw.org
>>25060988You don't know about the multiple AI experiments ran on here and reddit? It was funny because reddit had a fucking meltdown over it while in 4chan it was just like "another day, another conspiracy proved right"
>>25061000AI bot spam thanks to Kimmo and... anonchat? is the entire reason we have captcha, even.
>>25058930>Is T.A. Barron's Merlin Saga worth reading?Yes. The Lost Years of Merlin, King Arthur and His Knights of the Round Table by Roger Lancelyn Green and The Sword in the Stone by T.H. White are probably the best kid-friendly Arthurian stories.
>>25061016>are probably the best kid-friendly Arthurian stories.Was that supposed to be backhanded or was that just accidentally backhanded?
>>25061021Nope, they were all intended for children/YA readers.
Are the [Garbled] and [Missing] part of the writing or is my epub somehow fucked?
>First I had to endure Serwe chapters, and I said nothing, because I knew she would die>Then I had to endure Esmentet chapters, and I said nothing because she cant be that important >Then I had to endure Achamian + Esmenet chapters, and I started to worry, because Achamian is a pathetic loser who cries and goes insane without sex with Esmenet, who is important, and so Esmenet becomes important and gets more chapters by association>Then Achamian, Esmenet, and Serwe (and Kellhus) all came together, and I fell to my knees in defeat. Even if Serwe dies, the exponential annoyingness of all 3 characters whining about their shallow feelings, is still a great hurdle to overcomeIts a tragedy I cant skip any chapters.
>>25061094I'm talking about your comment the books.
I find this interesting. Im sure this has to be intended, because it just fits too well.But she talks about running away with Achamian from all their problems, and he talks about all the reasons he cant, which essentially can all boil down to him being a sorcerer.But see, the thing is. Is Achamian was likely anything but a Sorcerer, hed never meet Esmenet, but even if we assume they met. She likely wouldn't fall in love with him. Because she said it herself in the first book, what she desires from Achamian, more than his actual self, is his life.Shes assuming that some generic relationship where she could just run away with some dude she loves exist, when that love is so very conditioned by the very thing she wants them to "run away from". By the very thing that keeps them together.Honestly, I forgot the details. But why didnt Esmenet want to stop fucking other men again, and just go to Momemn with Achamian again? I feel like thats the only thing im missing right now to explain this silly relationship.
>>25055974No way they will cast a black person for this role, right?
Oh Kellhus. How you save me, how you make things philosophical without even intending to. Youre like one of the least human characters in the series and yet, as somebody who loves "human" characters more than archetypal, or representational characters. You hold my interest. I'm aware of your spell, and yet.
