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When will he finish it? Edition

Previous >>25207054

Here we discuss any kind of science fiction and fantasy. The recommendations are deprecated, but we don't have anything newer.

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

(Copy Pasted Slop so I could make this edition)
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Incognito mode obviously doesn't remember them if you close the browser.
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I'm not very far (reading very slowly and sporadically) so I don't want to judge too harshly but I'm pretty disappointed with the darkness that comes before so far. The earlier part with kellhus was a million times more interesting than this weepy cuck, his whore not-wife, and his faggot not-son. I trust that it gets better but it already feels like a slog reading about how much of a loser achamian is.
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>>25214548
that's a you problem.
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The Magic Engineer, The Saga of Recluce, #3 - L.E. Modesitt Jr (1994)

300 years after the second book and the founding of Recluce, Dorrin is exiled from Recluce. No one understands his obsession with technology and wanting to build machines, least of all his father, who is a member of the council that rules the country. His father fears that change will disrupt Order and bring Chaos, the two fundamental sources of magic in their world. Dorrin doesn't care and pursues his dream regardless. He and two other exiles are sent to a country ruled by Chaos. Thus begins Dorrin's rise as a smith, toymaker, healer, and engineer, among other roles. Chaos cannot abide Order, so it's only a matter of time before they come for him.

There's a lot of killing, that happens during war, but for the most part Dorrin is a support character. He can fight a bit, but since he's so Order-linked, harming others and causing destruction is very difficult and painful. There are severe consequences for excessively using Order to destroy. Chaos magic has no restriction on causing destruction. The war isn't what really matters or what the book's about. Dorrin would prefer to avoid any involvement if possible in any kind of conflict. The vast majority of the book is simply Dorrin's daily life as a smith. There's almost nothing magical about that. That means making nails, forging farm tools, and whatever else the townsfolk need. Eventually he does more elaborate and extensive work with toys, building a house, and then a warship. I don't believe saying so spoilers much, as it says nothing about the character interactions, the plot, or anything else that would be usually be considered a spoiler. The purpose is to demonstrate why this may or may not be what you want to read. There's minimal adventure and battle scenes. The only ambition Dorrin has is to build stuff and muse about why the world is the way it is.

I first read this over 20 years ago as a book I checked out from a local library with no idea that it was the third book. I always intended to follow up, but over the decades it became the series that I had the biggest mental block reading and I still don't know why. Hopefully that's over now and I can read the rest of the series, which currently is 26 books, without issue. I had also forgotten that it was specifically the kind of book that I had been looking for to read. I don't know how much of it is nostalgia and other factors, but it's so much better than the previous two books. I may be setting myself up disappointment for the future books in the series, but I'm okay with that. To further complicate matters, I apparently made up the two most vivid memories I had of the book, because nothing like either ever happened. I have no idea what I must've been thinking reading this for the first time, but I have a far greater appreciation for it now. This is exactly what I needed and wanted to read at this time.

Rating: 5/5
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>>25214544
i just bought the entire Mistborn trilogy because the female mc is barefoot, did i make a mistake?
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I’ve posted a few updates while writing my first book last year. After about four months of querying, and just over a dozen full requests, I got an agent offer of representation.

I’ve got the call tomorrow. I guess we’ll see how it goes.

Thanks for all the support. I couldn’t have done it without you guys.
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ANY SF NOVELS WITH GHOSTS
ESPECIALLY GHOSTS IN SPACE?!?!
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>>25214690
nice, hope it works out, let us know
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>>25214552
I was one of the biggest Second Apocalypse critics a couple months ago, and honestly I have few problems with the Darkness that comes before. Kellhus seems interesting at first, but the next POVs slowly carry their weight as things progress. Kellhus only seems interesting to a first time reader, because hes the first introduction, and the conditions of his journey, and his goals are the most shrouded in mystery, so theres an implied deeper understanding to find (there isnt, not as a character atleast, and no I dont care whatever plot twist bullshit bakker pulls out of his ass in the aspect emperor series) With Achamian, everything about him, his desires, his thoughts, his goals, and the purpose of his journey is on the surface level. But Achamians value is in filling in the world building, so he adds depth to the world, even if it isnt much depth of character.

Esmenet is a completely pointless character for the most part, but she makes the surface level Achamian slightly more interesting by adding gravitas to his surface level desires, she gives them meaning and context beyond merely being a world building guide. Shes as surface level as him, but it makes Achamian feel just that bit more like an actual person.

Cnauir is interesting for the insights on War, and the Dunyain that he offers, which completely destroys the mystery of Kellhus, and is basically where Kellhus' downhill trajectory as a character starts, because basically right after he meets Cnauir (despite the ironic point of Cnauir (atleast on the surface) being that hes not as easily manipulated by Kellhus) he starts mass manipulating everyone and everything to get his perfect way. And Bakker doesnt realize why this is bad writing, which is why Im guessing he pulls some bullshit in the Aspect Emperor series to subvert this or add another "layer" to make it interesting, but itll never be justified writing because it will always feel poorly established beyond vague hints and nods, like people seeing Halos on Kellhus.

Which embodies the mystery box problem where you can just hint at something, then post hoc fill in some bullshit and voila, youve got an interesting story beat.
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>>25214640
The first Mistborn is fine, I hated the rest of the trilogy. They were a slog to complete.
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I forgot to say. Darkness that Comes Before is fairly good. The Two books that come after, are shit. And the Warrior Prophet is one of the driest most unenjoyable books ever. I'm being hyperbolic but the whole thing really did feel like a waste of time till like the last 50 pages? A summary would suffice.
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>>25214573
Been meaning to get around to reading this series, genuinely sounds like everything I want in fantasy (just based off the first book)
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>>25214700
xeelee sequence has the Silver Ghosts :-)
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>>25214700
Night's Dawn trilogy by Peter Hamilton
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God Emperor of Dune fucking sucked.

How do you write an entire book with zero good characters?
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>>25214640
Nah you'll probably have a good time. Only pseuds hate Sanderson.
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>>25214819
You are as embarrassing as the routine Wolfe/Vance/Red Rising faggot author's name/whatever else is FOTM normalfag niggers.
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>>25214830
and you're a faggot contrarian
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>>25214832
You're new to 4chan LOL
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>>25214834
Unfortunately, I've been here longer than you.
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>>25214837
>DUDE 4chan launched in 2016
LMAO
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>>25214845
kek you gottem dude
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>>25214845
you got here in 19
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>>25214856
You will never fit in.
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God I fucking hate sun eater why are so many current book recs so retarded and shallow
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People make lots of comparisons here between Sun Eater, and TBotNS. Is that just becaude it's a story of a man telling the story of how he came to power?
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>>25214913
I'm not wholly into BotNS yet, I heard of it after I got started with SE. Apparently Dune and new sun were the most influential inspirations for Ruocchio. I'm going to guess it's because of the easy comparisons to be made between them. fictional memoir, theological features in the narration, science fiction backdrop, maybe even the violence of the story's events feel similar to some people. Seems like SE just misses in all the same places as the ender's game series.



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