New AoZ thread, let's hope MS Girls pics turn out to be a good luck charm for new content.--useful links--https://hobby.dengeki.com/title_re-boot/>official Reboot illustration list, missing first few entrieshttps://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/12/mobile-suit-z-gundam-advance-of-zeta.html>scans of some of the earlier entireshttps://hobby.dengeki.com/comic_novel/19559/>samples of the ongoing mangahttps://m.weibo.cn/u/6199800362?luicode=10000011&lfid=231522type%3D1%26t%3D10%26q%3D%23aoz%23>weibo page of Watership 4.5, a fan circle that makes 3d models of many AoZ designs. Good insight into how they function.http://www.inask.net/blog-category-144.html>another page with their stuffhttps://archive.org/details/Advance_of_Z_The_Flag_of_Titans_Vol.1/mode/2up>internet archive has scans of The Flag of Titans compiled in 6 volumes, this is the first one>last thread>>22558539
>>22584407Those are some impressive bun buns
latest volume
recent anniversary message from Fujioka:>To Flag of The Titans.>Congratulations on your special issue.>It's also the 25th anniversary of AOZ. Half of my life is now made up of the creative work I spent on AOZ. Half a century on, half of my body has gone to heaven, but the happiness more than makes up for that disability.>There are people who reached out to me when I was ill and trying to make a comeback.>There are people who are equally happy when I create. There are readers who are happy to see me defy the odds and pursue my ideal of creativity.>It's as if half the 25 years of my body I've lost are standing by the 25 years I've invested in AOZ, with the support of you, my readers.>I am still continuing the AOZ series sequel "Gundam Inle/AOZ-REBOOT" on the web. We are striving to create another new Gundam there. Thanks to all who support us and to everyone involved.
>>22584407this art is so interesting. She's carrying Hazel's blade rifle and the hrududu II subarms seem to be carrying a positively psychotic set of a winch shield each. Not to mention gigantic arms.Also big butt
>>22584442She needs them to stop anons from grabbing her butt
>>22584407I like how most of the art with Woundwort using the crotch beam saber is through the MS girl version
>>22584868it foreshadows that some of them are not girls
I love Black Hears so fucking much
>>22585576>messala gearAOZ is an absolute treasure trove of kitbashing inspiration.
>>22585576Wait, TR-S and Rabscuttle are Black Hares units?
>>22585799It's a refinement of an earlier design, just like Kelderek in general. And yes, AoZ is very much so made with modelers in mind as the target audience.>>22585950They were at least intended to be used by them. We don't have a lot of details but they were prepared for launching a nuclear attack on the Earth in the finale of the Gryps Conflict (presumably because Titans are sore losers, they tried the same thing with the Hati) but it seems to be unclear whether it was attempted and foiled, maybe serving as a distraction while the Tristan faction fled for Mars or if remained only a plan and AEUG captured the units when they were in a hangar or something.But fucking hell, imagine being an AEUG soldier cleaning up shop days after Titans were officially defeated. You and your squad enter a hangar section and walk in on a pure black mobile armor that dwarfs the Psycho Gundams, just sitting there. the AE liaison creams himself when he's informed
>>22585971I love the implication that even AEUG is forced to instantly inform their AE masters whenever anything happens
>>22585980>even AEUGAE is their biggest sponsor.
>>22586131Protect your freedom, buy SNRI
>>22585576they are the good shit
>>22586457You just know this thing was piloted by a motherfuvker with a ridiculous name like Overwhelm Cervix
>>22585576STILL wondering where BH Barzam stores beam sabers. The arms are replaced with Mk-II's/Refined Barzam's so the regular place is gone. But the backpack has Jegan thrusters without beam saber hardpoints. There's a few options for it but it's just guesswork unless we get some more info on it.The Advanced Hizack and Marasai use a back skirt that's related to Barzam's own so there's a non-zero chance a melee weapon can be mounted there. Hizack could carry it in the shield since it's taken from Marasai, but Marasai switched to Hizack shoulders so it could also take a cue from its melee weapon placement.Or they could just use the hardpoint in Hazel's backpack they have in which case the point is moot. But given the nature of these suits all of these options might be available.
>>22586986How can you be sure they even carry beam sabers? They've got a big fuckoff knife sheathed on the shoulderpad, I doubt it's decorative.
>>22586990>>22586986nevermind, that's the Hizack. Then I'm gonna go with either back/side skirts, inside of the shield, or maybe they just don't carry one. Honorable mention for maybe the rifle has a beam bayonet option
>>22586992these are good bets as any I reckon, plus maybe an arm mounted box-type like Sniper Custom before and ECOAS later on. I don't think not carrying any is likely, and the gun seems to be just the regular Mk-II rifle plus grenade launcher, matching how the whole design is like a TR-Plan styled Refined Barzam (but cooler)
I used to wonder how Nero can possibly be the result of integrating Titans and AE tech together when it's kinda forgettable and underwhelming, but now it clicked for me. Just because it doesn't have anything crazy going on, doesn't mean it's not just an all around well designed and adaptable machine. Hell, it has an EWAC system upgrade kit that's definitely inspired by TR Plan's modular character.
>>22587932Isn't the Nero just a stripped down S Gundam?
>>22587946Nero is said to have the lower body based on S Gundam and the upper body based on Lambda. And now we know Lambda is refurbished Gundam TR-S Hazel Hrair.
Apparently Fujioka's Barzam love goes all the way back to Sentinel. Considering how Hazel itself is based on GM Quel (i.e. Katoki styled GM) I don't think it's an exaggeration to say Katoki was a big inspiration for AoZ. ReBoot referencing Sentinel in several key points and hinting at more connections in the future feels like an homage.Also apparently Fujioka said he's planning to continue the manga soon, which would explain the recent slowdown with web entries. Take that with a grain of salt though, I can't find the original tweet nor any date for when he said that so it might be old news.
>>22588150Is that a Barzam head with "valkyrie winged helmet" details? I hope it makes it into an official design.
>>22588159i'll try look for it on twitter later to get more details, but for now all I know is it was a custom Barzam MS for his character (female titans pilot) in a Sentinel RPG he played with his classmates after school
>>22588165>female titan piloting custom valkyrie Barzam
alright, twitter is a pain to use but that was easier than expected. Here's a sketch of that Barzam's head. Not the most detailed but it is preserved from his school days.Found the whole thread too:https://twitter.com/omechaunit_go/status/1529634111312527362Fujioka outright says Katoki inspired him and if I understand correctly AoZ can trace its roots to this.
>>22588179Oh so it's a rear antenna like the AoZ barzams, not "Ear Wings" like I imagined. Still super cool though. Wait, that torso shape....
>>22588150Found the tweet about planning to continue the manga, that's also from 2 years ago... Around that time he also indicated future volumes will expand on the TR-S that became AOZ Gundam in AEUG's hands, so it seems like he still has lots of plans. And now he's recovering quite well so there's a lot to look forward to I think.
>>22588188God damn those thighs are massive
Is that a second hazel strapped to the backpack?
>>22589033Speaking of a full transformation, I've found this site (http://aarumodels.com/?p=766) which has a few 3D printed AOZ suits that can transform. A shame the author stopped posting a while back, but it's still work a look if you know your way around a 3D printer as he offers a look at his design process.
>>22590312very cool anon, for some reason I never realized Kehaar's "hood" is not part of the head
>>22590221it's not outright a whole Hazel, rather the dedicated backpack has a sensor pod that's effectively a second head sans v-fin. Both the final version of Icarus unit and Hizack version of the prototype skip out on this.
>>22590365It looks so smug behind that armor
>>22590393pardon the shitty edit but I can see it, yeah
I hope Marasai gets more love in the future
It'd be real nice to get the new illustration soon, or anything at all. This thread has been losing steam recently...
>>22591462Agreed, Wonder why we're having such a big hiatus? I hope Fujioka is okay
>>22591462/m/ has slowed down to the point a thread can still survive over 3 days without a new postwe'll be just dandy
>>22591391I wonder what the reasons are for uding a gran-Marasai or Barzam over a Hizack. At I imagine most of the capabilities come from the hover pack while the torso is just a rifle holding turret, might as well use the cheap one
>>22587952Looks nothing like the Lambda torso though. The SD version looks more like a ZZ based design
>>22591936we don't know what the Lambda looks like right? just that it was based off the Hrair
>>22591890Gran unit is in many ways a sub-flight system, just for high speed and long range hovering instead. So all the reasons why you'd still want a high performance suit in/on it still apply, like when you need to disembark or if the Gran unit is damaged.
>>22592180can it be purged mid combat? I assumed it replaced the legs entirely. And any sort of maneuverability or generator outpot concerns are moot since the base clearly comes with its own generator, likely stronger than the base MS'
>>22591481his twitter is still active and he even talked about viewing cherry blossoms recently, seems he's recovering pretty well. Might be simply taking a break or working on other stuff.
>>22592209Yeah the MS is just standing in it pretty much.I can't help but notice the similarity to G-Commander, now that I look at it.
>>22592221Are you sure the legs are still attached? Woundwort legs can fold inside the thighs and still fit, but not the other compatible MS. There is no room for the legs to go , just look at the rear view in >>22591391 . A Gran-Marasai is shorter than a base hizack, so there's no way the legs are still there
>>22592226yes, the legs are still there. The graphic doesn't remove them but specifically keeps them just like the arms and unlike the Barzam head, chest and hip section. It could be that it's kneeling inside the Gran unit, there seems to be enough space for that.
>>22592228What I'd give for a side view showing how exactly the legs fit in there. Or how the entire unit even connects to the main body. Seems like a backpack adapter and a rear skirt adapter? Backpack probably means all torso rotation is gone.
>>22592233It seems like the torso can still move, at least a little. The backpack connection might itself be on a flexible joint for that very reason.
>>22592239That's a very Xeku-looking Marasai kn the top panel. And the second panel clearly shows the entire leg still in there, so that solves my earlier question. I think that Gran-zack is purging the hoverpack and going into biped mode for the third panel?
>>22592249The top panel has Zaku IIIs (and seemingly some kind of cannon variant in the back). And yes, that Hizack got out of its damaged Gran unit and went to melee.
>>22592251You're right, I always forget the Zaku III (and IV) exist. Or maybe it's my desire to see Sentinel further linked into AoZ making me see things. Can you imagine what the TTT could cook up with the Xeku data? Picture in your mind a Xeku Eins given the Rosette treatment, or a space-only Xeku Zwei variant with the legs replaced by boosters and painted in Kehaar yellow
>>22592260There's some indication Xeku Eins is connected to Marasai and AoZ seems to be hinting at that too, what with the Advanced Marasai's design, especially the head sensor. Not to mention the concept behind Xeku as a simple and dependable machine focused on modularity seems like a smaller scale adaptation of the TR Plan
>>22592303Are those buked up Hazel legs? Very cool design. Do we have a rear view?
>>22593077Yep, we sure do >>22586986The Advanced versions basically introduce some extra parts to increase the suit's performance, like the classic Advanced Hazel. In case of the grunts one of these features is leg-mounted thermonuclear thrusters derived from Hazel's design. Galbaldy and Marasai get to have them integrated into the legs properly while the Hizack has them mounted on the sides, reusing parts from Vanargand.
>>22592303that's weird. after reading sentinel i was under the impression that the Xeku was a former zeon project like the Galbaldyif both are true then there's some fun implications- maybe the advanced marasai was the basis for modification's made to the zeek design of the xeku- maybe the marasai was also a zeek predecessor to the xeku and the connection between itself and the geara doga is even deeper than both of them being granada anaheim machines
>>22593093Xeku appears to be descended from old Zeon designs but has been newly built in UC 0087/8 rather than being just a refurbished and slightly modernized later war suit like for example Act Zaku. Galbaldy Beta is a whole other can of worms.The same source that suggests a direct Marasai - Xeku connection does the same with Geara Doga, which is also rather interesting.
>>22593084modularity my beloved
>>22593102I figure Anaheim just has a specific division formed entirely of operation paperclip'd Zeonic engineers, and all these designs come from them
>>22593145more like the Zeonic engineers are spread across all of their divisions and probably make up a solid half of their staff
>>22592251>(and seemingly some kind of cannon variant in the back).here's hoping we get to see more Mars Zeon illustrations, always cool to have more Zaku III variants and hiding a freaking Zaku III Cannon only in the background of a single picture would be a shame.
Gran-Barzam this, Gran-Hizack that, where's my Xamel II?
Gran-Inle (technically Gran-Fiver II)
>>22593902Are the wings different or just pointed forward? And where is the gun attached?
>>22593903All I know is that Fiver II's binders were removed and the giant hover unit takes the place of Dandelion II. Apparently it does have large claws for direct combat with Mobile Armors and the whole thing is reminiscent of Shamblo.
>>22593952Damn, carcinization even hits Mobile Armors...
who tf are they
>>22594573aueg girl and titans twink
>>22594580Keep away from Yazan. Probably Scirocco as well, just in case
>>22593102god, i want official art of the MSA-002. it probably just looks exactly like the marasai but it'd be neat if it had soft-parts compatibility like how the Nemo and Rick Dias do
>>22594853Probably looks very similar to this
>>22594853I doubt it's exactly like Marasai, matter of fact all we know about their connection is that Marasai uses its reactor but we don't know if there are any other similarities. It could have gone in a complete different direction from Rosette. I kinda like the idea of a Marasai-type design with a visor, but it is theorized in some places (MG manual for example I think) that Marasai was intended as a commander MS for Zeon veterans, intended to operate in tandem with the Nemos. So a monoeye is definitely on point here, together with the antenna.If Domingo is very similar to Marasai, then I like the idea of basing it off the earlier Marasai design sketches - when it was still called Domingo. Marasai is also derived from Dom, so maybe including some elements from that line would be a good idea.
Asymmetric Hrududu II is a pretty interesting look
>>22595197>it is theorized in some places (MG manual for example I think) that Marasai was intended as a commander MS for Zeon veterans, intended to operate in tandem with the Nemos. So a monoeye is definitely on point here, together with the antennayeah, it'd probably even be some head design with the rick dias' monoeye.
>>22595298The shoulder pods are also thrusters and the one without a mouth is a generator, so this thing would both have asymmetrical thrust and be underpowered unless that's the only gun it's packing. Still, you could make a good Build custom out of this
>>22595313it's like an even uglier dijeh
>>22595399Fuck you and your bloodline Dijeh is great
The new HJ mechanics volume is dedicated to AOZ. I don't believe it includes any totally new stuff barring model showcases, but it has some development graphs and the recent 25th anniversary message from Fujioka. I'm hoping scans are gonna be available soon.
>>22595448yeah, he's probably got some interesting stuff to say.
>>22595448hory shet, need. Make sure to post here if scans show up
>>22595460not as good but there's a short overview on youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN9WRL9LT30&t=152s
>>22596145Very well put anon
>>22584418Seeing how nice Advanced Galbaldy Beta turned out, I kinda want to see an updated Galbaldy Alpha from Mars Zeon. I'm sure Axis left them schematics for High Mobility Type, so it could be fun to see how different a different faction would take a concept of the "same" MS.
>>22596296that really would be nice. The Galbaldy line was just kinda tossed to the wayside on the Zeon side of things. Gaz-L/R are descended from it, but they just look like slightly tweaked Betas anyway. Gallus-S seems to fulfill the melee and guard role for Mars Zeon but they could still have other stuff. Some kind of Galbaldy descendant, maybe parallel to Axis's R-Jarja, can still have a niche.
>>22596964Melee/Guard MS have always seemed like such a weird/useless role to me. Having an MS mostly dedicated to melee combat is completely retarded unless you're fighting inside a tiny MS-sized corridor and even then there's better options, or you're some I-field covered monstrosity that would be better served by packing some ballistics. And Guard MS are both hilariously ineffective since most of them carry a tiny buckler that can barely cover their own MS; qnd anyone important enough to require 2 MS' worth of protection should either not be kn the front lines or should be piloting something better protected themselves instead. In the rare cases where the VIP is also an ace that likes to lead from the front like say, Char, they're usually in high performance machines that will outpace amy crappy guard MS anyways
>>22596996Melee mobile suits are definitely viable, if anything they are the way to go. MS combat tends to occur at close ranges and that was already proven through tests and exercises using Zakus before Federation developed mobile suits, hence the Gouf was the first choice for a ground-based successor machine.And later the Gundam indisputably proved the value of close combat focused machines.Specifically guard-type MSs are more like interceptors than literal meat shields. They're as much for protection against fast moving and melee focused suits as they're ceremonial, too. They can also have the added benefit of serving as essentially handlers for unstable cyber newtypes, like the Gaz-L/R and Geymalk. To boot, the tendency for using heat weapons means they don't have to hold back in vulnerable areas, like colonies or cities in general where you want to minimize collateral damage, especially from reactor explosions.
>>22597030Even the OYW amphibian MS were bristling with beam cannons, I can't think of any succesful primarily melee MS aside from some random monster of the week from 079. There's some weird one off models like the GM with the weird bident but I'm pretty sure that's a special one off.Good point about the guard types though, completely forgot about their schizo wrangler duties. Would love to see something like a Nu escorted by MP Nus, or a similar squad setup. I guess CCA gave us Sazabi + Jagd Dogas, would love to see more of that
Apparently there's a new Hyaku Shiki variant in Moon Gundam and... it has a shield booster. Curious.
>>22597414>Notoriously overcosted and inefficient MS keeps getting variantsI mean, at least they look cool...
>>22597414The more they deviate from the original Hyaku Shiki the worst it looks.
>>22597443in all fairness it has been long established Hyaku Shiki spawned a line of successor machines, with the mass production variant in particular being more successful than similar attempts at Zeta and ZZ. It makes sense the line doesn't completely vanish after UC 0089, especially when we're talking about entities other than the Federation.Liuo & Co had a hand in supporting AEUG and are more familiar with their dedicated suits, even using Dijehs in UC 0097. A Hyaku line variant for veteran pilots in their employ is entirely reasonable.
>>22597084>There's some weird one off models like the GM with the weird bidentThe Striker/Semi-Striker/Striker Custom?
>>22597461The silver variant looks a bit better. The Gold with white torso doesn't look right.>>22597466I wonder if the Rick Dias(Rick Dias II maybe) will get a similar treatment. It's weird how it gets abandoned in ZZ and we only see them return in the form of Zeon loyalist piloting Schuzrum Dias.
>>22597639>It's weird how it gets abandoned in ZZ and we only see them return in the form of Zeon loyalist piloting Schuzrum Dias.Dunno, makes sense to me that the ones interested in Dias line would mainly be Zeeks from AEUG.EFF wouldn't care much, because they aren't as numerous and easy to fit in the line up as the Nemos, or as appealing to keep as Barzams. I wouldn't be surprised if they sold most of them back to Anaheim at low price.I'm surprised that Moon doesn't have an updated version for Zeon side already, considering that Bajeena-san piloted one.
>>22597466really? more successful than the Zeta plus line?
>>22597947The Rick Dias was the face of the AEUG's toughest pilots that didn't get their own gundam. Though I wonder how much in common the Rick Dias and Nemo have. Their shoulders look pretty similar. Neo Zeon loyalist would probably prefer to use a Dreissen or some other Dom derivative/variant. Though they gave Char a red Dijeh with psychoframe. So it only a matter of time someone gives him a Rick Dias variant that has some sorta of newtype tech.
>>22597966There never seemed to be that many numbers built total of the Hyaku/Delta line. Some side lore says that AE/AEUG had more plans to build some Hyaku Shiki types, but they got put on hold indefinitely after an unexpected clash with the Titans and a prototype Psyco Gundam on the moon put some AE facilities out of order.Still, after the initial run of Zeta Pluses were built and had been around for a couple of years, the Feds order the Delta Plus as a newer successor rather than buying more Zeta Pluses. Riddhe's Delta Plus is supposed to be just one of a bunch of them running around by the mid 0090s, alongside the cheaper ReZELs.
>>22598301I was under the impression that the Zeta Plus became a staple high end unit for feddies. They show up in Sentinel and Unicorn as well, always guarding HVTs. And they're versatile enough to be considered for the Hummingbird configuration
>>22598326Yeah, despite their age (~8 years old by Unicorn/Narrative) they're still some of the best units the Feds have on hand, especially for specialized roles like heavy firepower (beam smartgun) and interception. The ReZEL and Delta Plus are newer and more efficient but still don't exceed what the Zeta Pluses can do, and their weapons are more general purpose (not counting heavy loadouts like the ReZEL defenser types).
>>22597966I meant the Mass Production Zeta Gundam specifically, which competed with Hyaku Shiki Kai Mass Production type and lost utterly.Comparing it to Zeta Plus doesn't work quite as well, if simply because Plus isn't really a mass production unit, it's just too expensive for that.Now granted, ultimately Hyaku Shiki Kai Mass Production Type also wasn't chosen despite the rather solid cost performance as GM III was still more cost effective overall given the available resources.
Does AoZ have any sort of release schedule? Or is it just whenever they feel like putting out a new illustration?
>>22599009no stated schedule but the illustrations were at a pretty regular 2 week schedule. Now we've been waiting for nearly 2 months so case in point, don't take it as gospel.
>>22599016Maybe they noticed our threads and got shy
checking Fujioka's twitter is enough reason for me to keep an account there. He retweets tons of crazy shit
>>22599281Looks stretched vertically
Guys I'm trying to understand something, so is AoZ REBOOT a story still? Or is it just Fujioka throwing up design lineage charts on the hobby dengeki site?I'm just confused because I remember seeing a manga a while ago, and the latest entry on the site are labeled Vol.90 so I'm trying to figure out what's going on.
>>22599955it's a manga AND random worldbuilding illustrations
>>22600060cool, but how is the manga part released? Is it still even ongoing?
>>22600096Of that I'm not too sure, since only the first couple of chapters are translated. AFAIK the manga is on hiatus right now
what the fuck is a period model?
>>22600198i have no earthly idea what exactly it's supposed to mean but it's basically the "late type" or "mass production" spec for Primrose. It has that little section under the nosecone now with a vulcan gun.
>>22600198woo! we're back!>Period modelIt's the name of that special Primrose variant. Translator is having a seizure but I think it says something about this being a redesign for the Hazel Hrair? This might be the unit that forms its core then
>>22600198As I understand Fujioka always intended for this vulcan part to be there but the appendix kit constraints prevent it. Now he took the time to reintroduce it, which is cool. And he didn't have it replace the previous design but rather introduced it as a variant, which is even better.I like the "flat" nose more but this is another thing to get autistic over when reproducing specific variants which is always a good thing.
>>22600096mostly via Dengeki web and the 6 volumes were also compiled and published together, printed. Some of the earlier chapters and the final ones are still available for free.https://hobby.dengeki.com/comic_novel/19559/Only japanese, of course.The manga has been on hiatus since 2021 but Fujioka hasn't abandoned it or anything.
>>22600198Apparently people are posting Hazel butts in response to this art and Fujioka is retweeting them. The funniest part is that the same tag is used for cute animal butts and also porn
>>22600670>MFW when the first thing I saw the illustration was Hazel butt too before even knowing this trend was a thingDid I catch AoZ brainrot?
>>22591941There is one official depiction of it in SD Knight form
>>22601076"official" is a bit of a stretch hereat the same time I wouldn't be surprised if Fujioka bases ZZZ's head design off this.
>>22600198It's in the same pose as in the movie, nice touch
>>22601944What is it doing? Feels like it's helping a Salamis back out of the garage while going "alright, alrighr"
>>22602114it was actually signaling a shuttle to dock there lol
https://youtu.be/GqUD-X_chC4?si=j3eQhdLr-sPW81Ag
>>22602501???
>>22602471neat, some sort of Hazenthley queenly variant? I feel like that entire "family" of loadouts has a ton of potential. In theory, any MS that is Hrududu II compatible (so pretty much anything humaoid) should be able to at least mount the arms right?
>>22603110Pretty much, yeah. In theory once you get one Drum Frame core integrated - which is exactly what Hrududu II does - you can expand from it as you like. Though of course in practice it's not gonna be exactly optimal if the suit isn't designed to handle it and you'd still be much better off using multiple connection points to the suit. Like how Woundwort and Hazel can mount 4 of the "shoulder" units serving as reinforcement, never mind other connections.
TR-6's subarm can extend forward, makes sense
>>22604044Yup. It's usually used to hold a beam saber
bit of a shame the new illustration is really not too exciting, but at the same time hopefully this means there will be some more out there stuff coming soon.Well, "soon".
>>22604892Wonder what the purpose of Woundwort's fucked up arm joints is. Transformation?
>>22605170I am not sure if it's outright stated anywhere but I figure it's so that they can go into compact mode for transformation and storage when other limbs are mounted on top. Also when serving as subarms.
>>22605848Which form uses them as subarms?
>>22606004TR-1 Haze'n-thley
>>22606006Always forget this is a thing. Why does it exist anyways? Hazel was outdated by the time Woundwort(and hazen II) existed
>>22606118That's exactly why it exists, to upgrade the Hazel up to spec where it can compete against late Gryps war suits. Though it's worth noting there's no guarantee it was ever actually built
>>22606120Still seems weird. "We took parts from better MS and replaced 90% of this old MS' frame to make it almost on par with the donorMS". Like, you're already disassembling a Hazen II to make this, just keep the Hazen II instead. Unless they used the legs for a Vervain and didn't know what to do with the now legless Hazen II
>>22606123they're using just the top fighter of Haze'n-thley II. The entire point of TR-6 upgrade parts is that they're modular and can be attached to other things as well
>>22606127>Head (modded), Torso (Modded), arms, cock-arm. Only parts missing are the buttpod and legs
>>22606118I don't think Owsla was that much behind, if at all. If anything, I'd argue that using it as a base would make the result a more balanced MS by itself.
>>22606187Owsla is stated to be about on par with 3rd generation mobile suits, think transformables like Zeta or Gaplant. Meanwhile Haze'n-thley I and II were expected to fight projected next gen successor models from AEUG, like ZZ and S Gundam.Anyway, Haze'n-thley has a lot of stuff over Owsla. Enhanced weaponry, thrusters, built-in compatiblity with TR-6 enhancement parts. There's practically no old GM Quel parts left, and whatever still remains has been thoroughly overhauled. To the point it's given a completely new model numer which none of the previous upgrades got.Meanwhile Owsla still suffers from being a big bundle of test equipment serving as one of the last data gathering points for TR-6 and TR-S. It doesn't have BUNNyS to coordinate the additional weapons and refits, no psycommu capability and so on. The most commonly depicted Full Armor form for example has the Tri-Booster equipped. Which sure, has massive thrust, but is also notoriously hard to control and unstable. You won't see that kind of stuff on a TR-6 machine or one upgraded with parts from it.
>>22604892god I love the engrish and gratuitous typos
Since we're on the topic, this bit here is not supposed to be a booster pod, is it? I own the HG for the Hyzenthlay I and II and, looking at these things, there doesn't seem to anywhere for any thrust to come out. In GBO2, it also doesn't serve as a booster pod because it has no thrusters on the model.
>>22606757Yes it is a booster pod, that's explicitly how it's called. If the thrusters aren't modelled then that's on the kit. The version Hyze'n-thley comes with is a slightly smaller one that what TR-6 Hazel II for example has (to maintain intended proportions) so it might skip out on that, like it does on functional hardpoints.Though, admittedly, I'm not sure if we have a detailed drawing where exactly the thrusters are to be fair. Could be why they didn't animate them in GBO2 either. Doesn't excuse the beam cannon though.
>>22606757I don't think it's a thruster pod, more likely full of sensors. It's the part that forms the "cockpit/nose" in fighter mode for the Hazen II, and the Rah variant has a second one as a codpiece (white in picrel)
>>22606123>Unless they used the legs for a Vervain and didn't know what to do with the now legless Hazen IINot the worst idea honestly.Alternatively, the plan could've been to slap the rest of the equipment on Barzam II, but they didn't have one at hand so they substituted it with the closest thing around.
>>22600198It means a model contemporary to the period.
Get in the Woundwort, Puru.
>>22607670the cockpit is a coffin?
>>22606874That module's got a beam spray gun in it iirc.
>>22607752That's what I call my dick too
>>22607752mega particle cannon actually
>>22607914That's what I call my dick too
>>22607708Always has been
>>22608185Yeah but at keast pilots get a comfy free-floating seat and cool 360 screens, that's more like a spaceship's morgue
I wonder how long till the next illustration
>>22609551if all goes well, 2 weeks-ish. If not, months
>>22609551would i commit murder for a fully-featured MG of the Hyzenthlay-II?maybe.
>>22610565do it for her
>>22610645Just ignore the crunching and cracking sounds when she hits the transformation button
would love to see the weapon bays in Haze'n-thley shoulders (and knees for II) depicted in more detail, there's a lot of potential with them
>>22610897I believe we have details of the shoulder ones at least. they look like the pic you posted. Pretty sure one of the illustrations has a little list with all the options but I can't find it right now
>>22610764>splits into top and bottom fighter>it's actually two short girls in a bunny suit, somehow
>>22610897>>22610912yeah we've had art of them back with Flag of the Titans and I believe the exact same one reused in Reboot, though it's hard to say for 100% because the resolution is kinda ass. Either way, shoulders and knees are supposed to have the same options (missiles, gatlings or INCOMs).
luv me kestrel, simple as
>>22596137I'd prefer a gigantic Zeong-scale guntank>IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY LEGS!>They're just for show, anyways.
>>22610921>They're a top and a bottom
>>22611972That made me think what kind of a Technodrome a Ground Type Big Ball on threads can be.
>>22611797Looks like a bad Astray or Wing MSV
>>22612324still better than ur mom lol
>>22611797It's alright. I prefer Wagtail.
Qrd on S.S.D. (Star Ship Down)?Is a Barzam variant the only thing they brought there or we might see more stuff there?
>>22612363SSD is a space station built into an asteroid that was planned as a homebase of sorts for [Inle] units, with the capacity to house and launch several of then at once. AEUG got their grubby little hands on it at the end of the war together with a single [Dandelion II] unit, the one left behind by the Titans that ran for Mars.Now it's the primary base for researching the TR Plan and related machines, SSD Barzam and early production Jegan are the only one we've seen but presumably ZZZ is there as well.It also has the capacity to send radio broadcasts capable of reaching Mars and has sent agents there as well.
>>22612368the Jegan in question, for the recordas far as we can tell here it's literally just a Jegan with [Hrududu II] slapped on it. Probably in the same colors as the SSD Barzam but can't say for sure.That being said given this is like 3 years too early for it to begin regular deployment and the fact it's a test unit I assume the internals are quite a bit different still.
>>22612368I wonder why they haven't converted that Barzam into Bar-GM, considering that at first it was AEUG that was making them, before Feds adopted it.Anyway, it's kinda interesting to me, because I want to see some fun stuff with Nemos 1-2, Rick Diases and Methuss' extended family, as potential is there.
>>22612389Since by all accounts it's only a test machine for verifying how the bloody thing works I suppose they didn't bother tweaking it up for PR or didn't want to mess with internals till they had the design down to pat.Meanwhile the BR-GMs that were deployed in combat may or may not have been based on the "scaled down" mass production version that was seen in the anime, rather than the TR Plan variant.
