... Anddd it's shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a09yJU-mCI
fuck off /co/
>another shitty troonformers threadRangeban this retard already.
>>22587280Want it or not, transformers are mechas.
>>22587282Anon this is my first transformers thread in years
>>22587278I'm fucking hate these disney facial expressions of modern TF.
The best origin story will forever be pic related
>>22587280>>22587282Fuck off
>>22587295Yeah fuck off /co/.
>>22587297Fuck off its not /co/
>>22587278Oh I forgot this was being made, appears to be a theatrical version of how Orion pax becomes Optimus. I’d put the complaining aside, this is definitely targeted towards the family/kid audience
looks pretty generic. They fighting the Senate+Quintessons? could be worth a pirate
It is only the trailer, but it just lacked any kind of hype to make me want to pay to see it in the theaters. I honestly think it will bomb, but hope not.
>>22587278
This cast list is almost as much of a meme as the one for the Mario movie. Even has Keegan Michael-Key.
Keep telling em to fuck off bro, you are doing great!>>22587278Guess this will be the new "canon" for the transformers origins. Looks and sounds like shit so I'm not looking forward to it. All the quips are off putting but I guess kids love that shit so who knows. The VAs are to be expected from a modern animated movie too, the usual washed up actors. Interesting to see them spoil the whole movie, its like we are going back in time with trailers.
>>22587544>Guess this will be the new "canon" for the transformers origins....why are you guessing that? That's not how Transformers works, or has ever worked. Also, we already know it's not connected to anything. It's its own thing.
>>22587562>The director that has no control of the franchise says it isn't going to do itUh huh
>>22587287Didn't they then ruin this by making a shitty tie-in to the movies?
>>22587596No, anon. If a future instalment is bad you can just ignore it. It doesn't affect the past instalments.
>>22587278The robots look bland and the humour/story feel like Lightyear's so far. I also don't have much faith considering this is from the director of Toy Story 4.>>22587430The Quintessons/Senate are overused and poorly handled more often than not IMO.
>>22587282>he's shocked at the influx of Transformers fans during its 40th anniversary
>>22587776>40 years of transformers>not a single worthwhile productAt least some of the toys are nice.
>>22587596>>22587604Rise of the Dark Spark is not the same series, because it wasn't developed by the same people.Not written by the same writers; not guided by the same directors; not quality-checked by the same producers.It's a poor knock-off imitation, sanctioned by a publisher in control of the IP allowing the imposter to wear the skin of its unfortunately deceased predecessors in sheer mockery.
>>22587533Keegan Michael-Key at least wasn't speaking in his normal voice unlike most of the Mario cast
I hate quips! I hate quips! I hate quips! I hate quips!
>>22587278>BaDaSsSs--AtRoNnNn--Aaaa---nd dropped.
>>22587450Literally kek
It’s ogre
>>22587789Japanese G1 is worth it, Scramble City for combinet fights, Headmasters for the lolz, Masterforce for tokuformers, Victory for proto-Yuusha, and Zone for gay sex.
Its got a bit of uncanny valley look to it but it doesn't look too bad for who it's targeting. I don't like ScarJo as Elita though. Then again, I find her to be bland as fuck in most things anyway. >>22587596Rise of the Dark Spark wasn't a High-Moon game. It was done by Edge of Reality, a port studio who's biggest claim to fame at the time was the PS360 ports of Dragon Age Origins and PS3 port of Mass Effect (ie fucking awful)It doesn't fit into either continuity either since it doesn't line up to the movie stuff nor the established War/Fall material which even had its own issues (War was meant to be a G1 prequel during dev but got shuffled into the Aligned Continuity with Fall and even that has its issues like Grimlock)
>>22587278It's fucking ugly, thanks.
>>22587278>i sure wish someone would have the balls to make a standalone transformers movie about the origin of the Autobot Decepticon war
I'm used to Prime having a face in modern stuff but Orion looks really off-putting.
I HATE MILLENNIAL WRITING SO MUCH
>>22588225>I sure wish we could get a transformers movie with no humans with Megatron as a character who actually gets screentime
>>22587278That trailer was so bad it gave me diarrhea
>>22587278kind of weird its orion the one that persuade megatron to go
>>22587278When did Elita One become so prevalent anyway? Do people even like her?
>>22587278I like the concept of the movie and think the animation is cool enough to get me to see it.I'm used to cringe-worthy jokes being in every trailer for any animated western movie, including the good ones. Hard to believe people still get tricked by them. That said, I hope the whining caused by this trailer can finally convince studios that it's okay to promote an animated movie with action and serious scenes instead of just the comedy bits.
I understand that Transformers is a franchise explicitly targeted towards kids in order to sell toys but it feels like it's gone -too- far in that direction and now they're struggling to try and swim back towards an older demo (the one with money), but you end up with this very strange, uncanny "we want the elementary school audience BUT ALSO the teenage audience BUT ALSO the nostalgic adult collector audience" and you can't have them all successfully. You just end up pleasing nobody and then no one is interested.
>>22588287>I HATE MILLENNIAL WRITING SO MUCHI think this is less of a millennial problem and is the literary equivalent of the CalArts visual design philosophy. That said, millennials do take up the majority of the latter as well.
I dunno man, I can’t take this utter hatred against quips or cliches seriously after having to hear people say Godzilla X Kong was a peak movie. Had two characters who only existed for shitty comedy and the most basic story ever,yet apparently it’s okay if Godzilla is in it
>>22588685That’s the aim for most of these heroic movies though, like Mutant Mayhem and Spiderverse also tried to appeal to everyone and still made money. It’s all about how you do it.To me, if they commit to the sad end between Optimus and Megatron, that alone would make it stand out. A family movie where the main characters end up hating each other is not common, friends stay friends forever in these movies. I can’t remember the last time a film like this was released.
>>22587278Maybe I was too harsh on Rise of the Beasts.
>>22587278this franchise is forever cursed since the bayformers trash
>>22587278>>22587789>>2258777640 years of franchise just for this as the 40th anniversary.
>>22587278WHO THE FUCK APPROVED THIS? IT IS SO SHIT
Is this what gen xers felt like when they saw Darth Vader as a 9 year old goofball kid when Phantom Menace came out?
>>22587278Those faces are hideous.
>>22587278Where’s my heckin gladiatortron?
>>22588631Elita normally being overshadowed by Arcee. I think even her toys don't sell well because she is just that unpopular.
>>22588631She's basically just Arcee. She's Elita One in Name Only.
It's impresive how awful it looks. Megatron's VA has the dumbest looking hair I've ever seen.
>>22588721>From the producers who saw "The Super Mario Bros movie"
For me it's the tonal whiplash. They seem to be trying for a decent origin story but then it's full of MCU quips and varsity football hijinks. Like pick one or the other. Sure the 80s series has comedy but that was just hamming it up and full of cheese, there's no charm in this trailer.80s cartoon: That's a cute outfit, did Starscream buy it for you?This crap: Wowie, I'm like so over this shit lil bro. Deadass! *trips and does a dab before falling into a pile of rocks*
>>22589113That cheesiness from the 80s is the comedy from that age, and this is the comedy of this age. You look upon it fondly because you don’t see it anymore, when I’m sure plenty of people didn’t like it back then. Fairly sure the original Transformers movie got bad reviews.I honestly think most of these jokes are played out for the trailer, and then when you see the movie they’re not even 20% of the film. That’s how it always is, they promote the worst jokes on trailers for kid films so the parents think it’s appropiate to watch. Sometimes there’s jokes that aren’t in the final movie
>>22587278Who is this appealing to?
>>22589139children, as it should be
Why can they not fucking get the faces right holy shit who saw that and said PRINT
>>22587596Yes, and everyone saying no is coping poorly.
>>22589269They look fine to me. It's just the cartoon grey faces but in 3d.
>>22589285You mean Animated? I always hated how those faces looked in 3D, that's why I only got the toys that had masked faces.
>>22589323No, I mean the G1 cartoon. It's just the G1 cartoon's grey faces, but in 3d.
>>22589327I mean maybe if you're going out of your way to use the doughiest Sunbow character model sheet you can find. But even then I don't think you would end up with OP's Elita 1.
>>22589331Anon I'm not fucking saying they're 1:1 recreations. It's just the goddamn style. G1 cartoon faces were grey, plain, and mostly featureless. That's what the movie is doing, but in 3D instead of 2D.
>>22589269>>22589285>>22589323>>22589327>>22589331>>22589347I'm starting to think some of you are faceblind.
Ugly as hell. The whedon quip makes it even worse.
>>22589356They literally nothing alike lol.
>>22589408Please go to your doctor and ask about prosopagnosia.
>>22589356It's almost like the medium of 2D isn't 1:1 with 3D. I can bet that Primes designs would look more hideous in 2D
>>22589413>It's almost like the medium of 2D isn't 1:1 with 3D.I... know? That why I said that earlier?Jesus fuck, the reading comprehension of this thread is abysmal.
>>22589139Maybe like really, really young children.
>>22589376Hasbro did this shit with the D&D movie too.
>>22589411None of the G1 shot have pupils in their eyes and their helmets look different.
>>22589429FACES, anon. FACES. Not COMPLETE HEADS.
>>22589431Yeah g1 faces don't have pupils in their eyes and the overal shape of the faces don't match. That dogshit cgi models have ugly facial expressions you usually see in Disney animation.
>>22589437Again I state:>Jesus fuck, the reading comprehension of this thread is abysmal.
>>22589440>No, I mean the G1 cartoon. It's just the G1 cartoon's grey faces, but in 3d.>Anon I'm not fucking saying they're 1:1 recreations.>R-reading comprehension...I'm gonna tell you right now why it doesn't work.Execution. They decided to smooth out the square-ass faces and most of them don't work. Elita, Prime, and Bumblebee just look like they're from Earthspark, Megatron looks the best out of them, because they actually keep the sharp angles on him instead of sanding it down and loosing all detail.For being g1 G1-inspired heads, they sure as hell ain't doing them justice.
>>22589478considered and dismissed
>people actually defending this crap ITTyou deserve this garbage
>>22587278The humour is just so fucking bad. We can't just have sincere dialogue everything has to be fucking Buffy dialogue undercutting every moment. They might as well add laugh tracks to shit like this because you can tell everytime you are 'supposed' to laugh.I like the designs a little bit but not enough to care. Its weird seeing Orion Pax but not Ariel and Aracahnid. Not their faces though.
>>22589356The proportions aren't the same at all.
>>22589521what part of "not 1:1" are you fuckers not understanding
>>22589523Probably the part where typically "not 1:1" implies "but is pretty close with some minor changes" and these are rather more substantial.
>>22588998Then why do they keep using her? It’s almost like nobody wants her.
I’d rather have a reboot of Kiss Players than this crap. Or better yet, a Gobots remake. At least those would be interesting.
>>22589624>Or better yet, a Gobots remakeyou should read the IDW Gobots comic, shit's wild
>ANOTHER prequel series about Orion Pax>no prequel series about Starscream being a scientist and actually a protagonistThat's dumb. Hasbro you are dumb.
>>22589624Kiss Players would be fun. Imagine taking your kids to watch the new Transformers movie only to watch megatron eat a loli.
>>22589139Children and 38 year old brand loyalists.
How gay is my OTP?
>>22589699True, very true. But I’d rather see a more fanservice driven take on it with aged-up characters and older looking designs.Something akin to maybe……Kimura’s work, perhaps?
>>22587278I don't like how it's a Power Rangers film, with Alpha Trion giving these teenagers with attitude wondrous powers to take on the evil space aliens.Otherwise though it seems fine. I like faces here more than I did in EarthSpark.
>>22587278Okay, I'll watch the movie just to spite you.
At least Megatron looks like he'll actually look like Megatron by the end but I can't imagine anything in this movie could really sell a reason for him becoming a genocidal despot hellbent on enforcing his will on everyone.
>>22589817Contrarians like you never save the movie you tried to defend.
>human faces TransformersFUCKING HATE THIS SHITTHIS PROVES ONLY JAPANESE CAN DRAW MECHAFUCK UNCANNEY VALLEY PIECE OF SHITt. Gee wunners and War for Cybertron fren
>>22589826The production company says this is the first in a trilogy that will end with the start of the Cybertron Civil War. So they've got a lot of time narratively to focus in on just how wide the gap between the two will become. It makes the tone of the trailer all the more jarring if they commit to that process.
>>22589935If you read some of modern TF comics, even the conflict reeks of so.y
I predict that this movie will be kino and all of you keks will be btfo.
>>22589957>Shitty millennial writing>Kino
>>22587278i can't be the only one here unironically being hopeful about this movie Megatron voice is fucking awful though, what a miscast
>>22590526The cast is full of capeshit actors so don't hope for anything.
>>22587278I hope Prime's faceplate is a permanent fix instead of a battle mode mask.
>>22590772I still consider Beast Wars to be the ground zero of Mouth Optimus crap. Soundwave almost always mouthless ( minus Bay movie i think ), but for some reason Optimus's default face has mouth now. I don't fucking get it.
>>22587278I honestly wonder why Hasbro seems so afraid to do classic robot faces. Those designs feel timeless. If they had to do this, I wish the heads were closer in style to the WFC games.
>>22590785Hasbro doesn't afraid, they only care if the product sells or not, regardless of quality. It is just majority of mech designers on their end are corporate faggots with the urge to design everything with disney faces.
>>22590781I feel like Primal having no faceplate is fine since he is a different character. I blame Bayformers for starting the Optimus Prime with a mouth trend even though Cybertron/Galaxy Force did it first. After Bayformers every single incarnation of Optimus Prime has a mouth by default instead of a faceplate.
>>22590785These ARE classic robot faces. See >>22589356Also, Pre-Megatron his using his early eye color and helmet design.
>>22590807If there is another thing that Bayformers started, it was the Bumblebee wanking. He overstayed his welcome. Every major tv shows after the first Bay movie features Bumblebee one way or another. And i fucking hate it.
Judging the film based on the trailer full stop is probably premature. It's paramount. They always do the cookie cutter trailers They even premiered it in space as a publicity stunt. I'll be more surprised if it isn't received in the same unexpectedly positive way the Bumblebee movie was.
>>22590932Bumblebee never really got the positive reception, it was mostly paid shills. The movie was a flop.
>>22590842No those are NOT classic robot faces. They have the vague facade of the old characters, but classic robot faces = Japanese faces no different from Kunio Okawara or Katsushi Murakami faces. They have a handsome look with hard edges and thin features. The Megatron you posted is literally a Shohei Kohara design. TFOne faces are all smooth without the hard edges that make them look uncanny. We've seen what classic robot faces already looked like in three dimensions countless times not just in anime and tokusatsu, but also in Transformers itself. Just look at the Devastation models (about as perfect as it gets to translating G1 to 3 and try telling me they look like TFOne.
>>22590842Anon, stop trying to tell us an orange is an apple. Even in your own example they look nothing alike.
>>22590939A significant difference in Japanese TF is how the robots have less exaggerated facial expression. I honestly hate how Alex Milne popularized the mega expressive disney-esque faces for the robots.
>>22590959Alex Milne is an absolute cancer and should be blacklisted from drawing Transformers.
>>22590913Thank god Skybound decided to kill Bumblebee
>>22590939God damn, the visual appeal of Devastation alone.It managed to take the visual style of Obari-headed G1 episodes like Call of the Primitives, and absolutely fucking nailed the transition to 3D with it. It nailed it with the power tool to end all power tools. The kind where no fucking force on earth or beyond is going to get that nail back out.There's eye-candy; but this transcends it. This is eye-sex.You will need an abortion after playing.(Don't worry; crying manly tears counts.)
>>22590963Why is he a cancer?
>Everyone ITT: NOOOOOOO! YOU CAN'T MAKE TRANSFORMERS A ZOOMER COMEDY MADE FOR HEKKIN KIDDARINOOOS! IT IS ONLY FOR US 50 YEAR OLDS FROM 198-FUCK!>Implying G1 didn't have funny shit>Implying Beast Wars didn't have funny shit>Implying Animated didn't>Implying Car Robots didn't>Implying Unicron Trilogy didn'tWon't deny the character designs aren't impressive. Probably won't see it either. But you can tell who the posers who only got in thanks to Bayformers are in this thread. Or you're one of those faggots who only skimmed the comics and disavow goofy shit like the carwash of doom.
>>22591721Most of the beloved entries had goofy bits. Even fucking Prime had goofy shit. However, humor is an incredibly hard thing to get right since its subjective as fuck. If the rumors about this being set up as a trilogy with the glimpses we get of Megatron and Optimus being something akin to flash forwards, I'm absolutely okay with the first movie being largely lighthearted. It'll make the shift to the dramatic and drifting apart of D-16/Megatron and Orion/Optimus hit all the harder.
>>22591721>Well, there's funnis in other Transformers!Alright, Transformers, in most of its iterations had been action first, funnies second. Beast Wars, in all its funny slapstick, still had action surrounding them. Never mind that the Pre-war/War For Cybertron era has, for the most part, been more serious.Even then, the problem with the Transformers One trailer is that it is all the hehe hahas. The trailer's first impression gives off this being a comedy. Which whether it is or not, this ain't a good first trailer.
>>22591853>Beast Wars, in all its funny slapstick, still had action surrounding themNot to mention- Beast Wars' slapstick was mostly isolated to a few repeated memes.It didn't ham it up universally, it knew which characters to turn into the butt-end of certain visual gags (i.e. Waspinator) and it ran that train into the fucking ground, basement third level.
>>22591721There's one thing for having funny shit in your show every now and then, and then there's having half of your trailer for your Optimus Prime/Megatron origin story that showcases the start of the Cybertronian Civil War being Bumblebee making silly jokes and quips like "BADASSATRON". It doesn't really set the tone that well for a trailer that's also showing what seems to be Sentinel Prime getting quartered by a Quintesson. I have middling expectations for it, like the fact they're putting Airachnid of all fucking characters in a TF movie tells me they're doing at least a little research for this, but Megatron's VA just doesn't really work for me from what's been in the trailer.
>>22587278ngl, if I was like 14 I probably would love this and think this trailer is amazing. Like I get it, it's trying to be Guardians of the Galaxy, everyone wants to be GotG now because of how well that movie did (it also reminds me of the Michael Bay TMNT tbf). But one, GotG came out 10 years ago and two, I'm too old for that now. I'm sure people in the actual age bracket will enjoy it.
>>22588287Why does everyone blame millenials for this when the people that started and made popular overly snarky dialog and such were Joss Whedon and the people behind MST3K, who were all either young boomers or very old Gen Xers? To call it millenial writing to me ignores that they're just copying what they enjoyed growing up that was written by previous generations.
>>22587287I know almost nothing about Transformers and yet I have this unjustifiable conviction that nothing I watch will ever top this video game trailer from 12 years ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyW5KMMDjZw
>>22594225I mean, that's a pretty fucking good trailer.
>>22594225The Cybertron duology and Devastation are unironically where G1 Transformers peaked.The first for substance, the second for sheer style.Neither have been equalled ever again.Lightning in a bottle.High Moon's case in particular stings, because they'd effectively found a way to trap lightning in a bottle TWICE. The tools in ties at Hasbro wouldn't see a golden goose opportunity if it ran up and smacked them straight in the bleached chompers with a clue-by-four, so what did they do? They cut them off from the license, set them adrift to die - and then tried to get some absolute no-names to replicate the feat, but JUST a little bit cheaper. Well- that's what got us Rise of the Dark Spark, which absolutely tanked the whole thing ...Unironically, the best thing that could happen to Transformers is Hasbro going broke and a more competent company running with the IP.(Anyone but Disney, please...)
>>22594348I agree with all points.
>>22589356why does optimus have the fucking pixar wink face
>>22594358The moment the rustling around High Moon started is when I re-bought both the TF Cybertron games on Steam after having previously had them on Playstation consoles. Because at least on PC they could be kitbash-modded to keep running easily - if needed. Same with Devastation, actually.
>>22592650The overly snarky dialog, "yas kween slay" type of story does not always came from millennial writers, but millennial audiences love it. It exploded in popularity since the early 2000s internet.
>>22594359Megatron has the dull surprise face too.
heh
