The newest edition of >CLOP has arrived, a decade old browser game about building nations, geoponitics, and oppressing ponies. Join now and start making connections, alliances and intrigue.Please play our game>Link to the game itselfhttps://4clop.com/>Link to the test serverThis has 30 minute ticks. Every tick is a war tick, and no travel time. Feel free to make multiple accounts there, and experiment with the war mechanicshttps://test.4clop.com>Previous thread>>40960598>>40444206https://youtu.be/x6dWAoD2zTUDON'T STOP PLAYING IF YOUR NATION DIEDDON'T GIVE UPKEEP GOING DESPITE YOUR GRIEVANCES THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE WHO YOU CAN ASK FOR HELP IF YOU STRUGGLE WITH COMPLICATED SHIT IN THE GAMEi thought we might have a renaissance here but no these fuckers just all left after their first nations blew up baka. just have some more faith in yourself goddammit the mechanics aren't that hardanyways new players are welcome, you will receive a cookie for playing and not quitting :)>reset in 2 weeks
>>40994260Remake edition? Almost thought there was a reset bruh.
>>40994360TROLLld lLLloll!!11!! XDXD
>>40994388what if.. I raze..your nation..with 500 gunboats..ha ha justkidding..unless?
>>40994260did you do anything about the balance?
>>40994471Not OP. You could post what can be done about the balance, drop ideas etc. in this thread. Keyboard monkey can be found or trained but creativity can't be.
>>40994260I’d rejoin but my dick shrivels up every time I remember TNN’s anticlimatic end after weeks of hype.
>>40994260Did the bugs finally got banned? If not, then fuck off with your aidsling ridden game.
>>40994485>You could post what can be done about the balance, drop ideas etc. in this thread. aaaannnd? what comes after that? nothing. a big nothingburger>>40994507>he doesn't enjoy just building up a prosperous nation and supporting the free market>>40994512hi crystal mareapolis. the bugs are not banned but they're all gone (for good?) now. you're safe
>>40994260Prices from the old world are unfeasible and I feel like selling a liver for a single item at timesSo better to wait a proper reset instead of getting annoyed and deciding to not give it a second chance
>>40994717>Prices from the old world are unfeasibletrue, the players were all operating exclusively through deals instead of the market, including me. not sure why it turned out to be like that>So better to wait a proper resethumans don't live that long anon
>>40994735>not sure why it turned out to be like thatFlippers, lack of stability. Also state controlled economy in this game is superior in every way if you have an alliance or have a long term trade agreement with somebody.
>The ponies of Mastadoria have successfully revolted against ChaosFurMarine!
Please play with us
wow this post is doing numbers
Should I start anew or try to dig up the pass for my old burro account?
>>40996598Start anew and we shall forge a better world
i see what the game is missing now. all instances of 'anyone' must be replaced with 'anypony'
>>40996670I would support such autofilter
>ded gameWhat went wrong?
>>40997039no one's there to update it anymore
>>40997039Dicksword
ill learn to program and make 5clop
>>40997159What will 5clop have?
>>4099760025% more clop
>>40997600a lot of extremely ambitious systems that are ultimately confusing and do not interact with eachother leading to the playerbase eventually bleeding out as well as taking away players from 4clop to ensure common ruin for everyone
>>40997600blackjack and hookers
I don't really have the time or autism to play like I used to. But it might be worth making nations just to get conquered so people have stuff to fight for.
>copper at 60kIm killing a bitch and its going to be your fault
So... any strong opinions on military rebalance? Naval seemed rather bad to me. It's obviously meant to be used for carrying capacity, but pegasi are good at fighting.
I might play. Just need to read the guides.
>>40998782It is 5k each now, just ignore cooldude offers whenever you can.
why
why not just invade Ourasia?
>>40999761Is it just the name that drives people to Przewalskia? Does no one just want to be an ass, zigger or sandzigger?
>>40999761There are 5 of them now.>>41000131Can´t invade nations in stasis. >>41000235It seems to be the case. I am still surprised there are no other saddles in game yet. Please do not be afraid to be a sandzigger, I am not going to compete with you.
>>40999348i think game needs more than military rework like raids, recapturing rebelling, later turned rouge nations, war against NRL and SE outside ascension fight idk
>>41000337A way to occupy without conquest. Moving troops and set alignment toward other nations' troops within a nation, while in the field. Something a bit more flexible than just flat enemies and allies without any deeper control than choosing to attack or defend.A besieging system of some sort to conquests would be neat too.
So when the reset happens, those who do not hold strong national biases will feast.
Remove Przewalskians as a starting choice, and introduce them as a reward for some kind of periodic event or massive project.
>>41002195or, crazy idea, just make the other choices more attractive
>>41002195i think people see its description and think long term like hmm industry is good! better try it out for long term benefit
>Government: Democracy>Economy: Free Marketwish me luck guys
>>41002237>>41002229Some sort of selfsustainability and tiered resources would be an idea. Preze could get crap metal, grow potatoes and get potato biofuel. They would then have to interact with players to get that sweet avocado import, high quality steel and actual diesel.Same with the other nations. You could be a stubborn little hermit handling all fronts yourself, but, while not dying, you could never get as strong as you'd be able to without trading and friends and just a prime bullying and raiding target by unknown players.Making power more of an industrial capacity per tick, than something you can somehow accumulate in stores, would be another suggestion. That would make an energy market of power imports and exports, preze could be particularly favoured in power generation over the others, rather than just better factories for vague reasons.Just throwing brainstorms at the wall here.
>>41001347Yes they will feast on nothingburger, bygone alliances will return.
ZIGGERS ARISE!No, seriously, we need more oil nations just in case the one remaining flips a lid.
>The user DonaldTrump has joined the game with the nation of The Ever Free Federation.are you fucking kidding me? this is supposed to be some shitty joke
>>41003475Odd thing to moan about.
>>41003497>North Przewalskia
We don't actually need oilfriends if everyone just becomes Przewalskians.
>>41003578If I don't get regular oil supply I swear im going to eat all my apples and let all prze jews starve.
>>41003598you're gonna be fine dude
>>41003600no he won't. i'm buying all of it
wat do halp
>>41003702Build a DNA facility
>>41003702build production buildings (it's either apples, oil or copper)if you're a przewalskian, wait until yuou die and start as literally anynation elseread the read the damn guides
>>41003708I think I got it, the recommended guide should start with "choose a country then make farms, oil wells, or copper mines" because that's how you start playing and then explain satisfaction et al. and even then it doesn't explicitly explain how to start. The other guide explains it clearly but it's under the Recommended guide and frontloaded with Things That Can Kill You which the player is not dealing with immediately and the two important pieces of info, "build farms, oil wells, or copper mines" and "[country] is the only source of [resource]" are in separate paragraphs. Why is ">CLOP is a game of trading." not the introductory sentence? It would be the perfect axiom to understand what's happening immediately. Anyway that's my onboarding review.Now, why can't I offer vehicle parts for 180,000 bits when I have 216,400?
Nevermind it's working now for some reason
>>41003830>vehicle parts for 180,000 bitsWhy would you do that?
>>41002195Just add a pop-up notification when trying to start a new nation in Przewalskia that reminds people that they produce no resources and are the hardest nation to play as. Would catch some of those who didn't read the guide first and the hard headed ones would get what they fucking deserve
>>41003902I need 10 parts and 5 machinery to make a coffee farm but I don't have copper or oilMaybe I should just trade for copper and oil now that I think about it
>>41004067set a buyers order
>>41004089I'm out of money I bought 2 more parts
>>41004067I will give you that shit for 1000 bits a piece if you make coffee with it
>>41003441not flipping lids yet but >>41003600 charity is becoming expensive>>41004067name?
>>41004128FUKKEN SOLD>>41004134(The Glorious Democratic People's) Republic of Enslaved Ponies o7
>>41004128you need coffee? why not just ask me
>>41004143gibs sent I am out of bits sorry
uhhh how much coffee do i uh
>>41004231At least 67
FUCK I need 5 oil
NEVERMIND IM GUD
>>41004249I could only make 5 farms with my money, 67 would require like 14.
>>41004308Not that anon, check again I gave you another few mil. Remember that your nation needs positive sat to not explode.
>>41004249>>41004308>he did itThe absolute madman
>>41004354tricking people (ponies?) isn't nice, anon. be ashamed of yourself, NOW!
>>41004339T-THANKSI'm gonna make some sat buildingsIf I make a bakery and a coffee shop this tick does the coffee shop use the pie the bakery made next tick or does it just become a resource?
>>41004405First it takes resources from stockpile, then resources are added to stockpile. Sending pie, do not worry about coffee, I will start sending you deals 15k each for it tomorrow.
>>41004449I see, I get it.I would like to do DNA next, should I hold off?
>>41004493NO
>>410044931 DNA facility costs basically nothing, don´t build more than one though, their damage on environment scales very fast
>6 przewalskiansthis will end well
>>41004501Don't hold off?
>>41004134>charity is becoming expensiveWe're all gonna die
Suggestion: Move Actions above Reports because it's more common early game.
>>41004522
Are any of the ogs from when this reboot started still playing?I remember those early days when no one had anything very fondly
>>41004955The game was at its peak then, IMO. Negotiating with everyone for just a few vehicle parts was great. Though that might be because I didn't like the role I fell into.
>>41004955me
>>41005458Such oil monopoly
>>41005458Burros are essential.
>>41005458if i become a zigger what do i get besides big booty zeebs?
>>41006082Not much of value.Copper is essential for developing, but you CAN live without it, and surviving on copper alone is less than ideal. I actually want to see an Immortal Zigger living on statues alone, extracting copper forever.Gems are for military, malls and precision parts, which are for more military and tungsten extraction.Tungsten is for military and composites, which are for more military and better oil extraction.
>>41006099>I actually want to see an Immortal Zigger living on statues alone, extracting copper forever.well, i WAS immortal
>>41006082>what do i get besides big booty zeebs?you need something MORE than big booty zeebs?
>>41006161Run out of apples, I see?Why the massive oil burns tho?
>>41006190yes i ran out of applesoil burns because it was a suicide (too many mines made the population depressed enough for a massive suicide/self-eradication)
this game made me bust out google sheets
>>41006308>not doing it all in your headi shiggy diggy
>>41006324my head was giving me numbers i didnt likethe spreadsheets only confirmed my suspicions
>>41006328Ah, a scholar
>>41006308>not doing it all in LibreOffice calcmare stare
>offered 5 mil for 500 copper and I just started, barely understanding this gameok
>>41006308>not using a homebrew spreadsheet command-line executable written in rust
>>41006855What country did you choose? I'll trade'ya.
>>41006855Anon. Reread your reports under nation section. You were given free stuff not the other way. You are welcome.Click buttons, see action page in nation section what makes what, see in market who sells what and who buys. This game is all about money.
>>41006900https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt061BAbkQs>tfw retardedI won't squander this.On purpose.
>>41006909Try to not spend it all on drugs. It would be funny if you did but we won't be able to see it in graveyard unless you nation is older than 30 days.
>>41006923>don't spend it on drugsUh-oh.
Let's see how this goes
>>41006926pics or it didn't happen no balls
ah yes i can't wait when it's bedtime and my nation is in flames
OH WHOOPS, I DROPPED MY ZEEB THONG FOR MY SILKY ASS.
If you don't disable your building does it take sat even if it didn't make anything?
>>41007723I think if your building was not able to function because you don't have resources it takes, then it acts as if its disabled, so you get -1sat/disabled building.
>>41007967It defaults to -1 sat?
>>41007975As far as I know, yes, -1sat per every non-working building, evey tick its not working.I think there may be bigger penalty if you have no buildings/all your buildings are disabled, but that happens only if you start out and do not build anything.
>>41007999I see, thank you.
>>41008002Also, I THINK, not sure, that if you for example need 100 apples/tick to run, for example, cider facility, because you have 20 of them, and you only have 99 apples, then it all stops.You do not run a part of those facilities, its all or nothing.You wont use 95 apples to run 19 facilities with 4 apples leftover and -1 sat for 1 facility not working.You will use 0 apples, run 0 facilities, have 99 leftover apples and take -20sat for 20 buildings not working correctly, if I understand this correctly.If you want option 1 to happen, you need to MANUALLY disable a single facility.
>>41008056I believe that's the case, my coffee farms didn't use up my leftover energy and I had to set it to the exact amount. Thank you again.BTW SELLING MACHINERY AND VEHICLE PARTS THAT I DEFINITELY DIDN'T FLIP DON'T LOOK INTO IT. If anyone wants to GIVE CHARITY or perhaps strike a deal THANK YOU :^).
HOLY FUCK
>>41008252gottta pump up those numbers rookie
>>41008491Is this is the power of zeeb (and oil rich landscapes)? I-I kneel.......
>>41008501this is merely money given by the zebra motherland the wealth of which is truly unmatched
>>41008252>>41008491>you will never be this >CLOP richWe even live
>>41008522you could always succumb to despair and end your life and hope you reincarnate into somepony with more CLOP bits
>>41008505Incredible, I suppose we know who our true rulers are. Pic rel.
>>41008252>>41008491>>41008501amateurs...
>>41008548Zigger kangz
>>41008562I can't find any screenies of my balance when I was ascending, Transponyism is nuts for GDPWith Love,Queen Gytha
>>41008613found records in the ascending rankingsBits 1,106,162,987
>>41008501Big Bootyful Gems await you in Zebrica.
>>41008618That's very little though, it's after all the massive expenses spent on fast-tracking the entire alliance to ascension and also parting gifts to friends IIRC. It's, like, just over the cost of a single Forbidden Research facility, and most members built a few of those each I think?The problem with hoarding comes with taxes/inflation. To mitigate that you tend to spread your wealth out to alliance members and friends, so I doubt any single user has had much more than maybe 5-10 billion in their nation at any one time, IIRC.Other than ascension, the biggest money sink in the game is armies, and I think the biggest armies raised in the last iteration had a cost of like 20-25 billion or so? That should be a good ballpark for the typical late-game wealth accumulation - but again it ends up being alliance-wide rather than any single preson sitting on tens of billions.
I think the issue with Prz is that the guide call them "hard mode" so people think, wow, I'm an epic gamer, I'll play as the HARD nation! And hard mode also implies you will probably get better rewards down the line as a reward, so it's like, playing the long game, a difficult early game but potentially much more powerful down the line!In reality hard mode is a misnomer: przs are not "hard" to play, they're just in very low demand. "Useless if there's already an active prz" would be a better description.Maybe the guides (or even the game, in a tooltip/warning if a new player selects Prz in the nation dropdown) should say something like:>Przs are a niche nation that does not produce anything natively; having a few active players is crucial in the long-term, but the demand for them scales very slowly so a surplus of Przs becomes practically useless and even dead weight. Thus, unlike the three producer nations that always have some net export and benefit from working together, as a Prz you will instead be directly competing against other Prz nations in a nearly zero-sum game (or alternatively living off of others' charity) - provided there's already a small handful of Przs that are capable of fulfilling the demand. Picking Prz under those circumstances is highly not recommended unless you are already an experienced player and know what to expect."
So many asking for a military calc. Just be me and make your own kek
>>41009375The real bottleneck is playerbase, or, more accurately, the amount of active nations.It would be nice if there was a late-game option of settling new nations, or if nations that have fallen to rebels could be recovered/conquered.
>>41009389I'm glad to see it back, though. I played a long time back and still have a bunch of the shit I made to optimize back then. This is gonna be an interesting next few weeks for me.
>>41009389>nations that have fallen to rebels could be recovered/conqueredThis, that'd give people a lot more things to do and you wouldn't even have to alter that much code (probably).Imagine if at some point they could attack you or you could ally with them and trade, it'd be pretty complicated but I want to believe.
Pls buy mai coppa
>>41009504SELL I MEAN SELL ME
THX ZEEBNEED JUST A LITTLE MOAR
holy shit another saddle
looks like the amount of Przewalskia nations levelled out? all but 1 of the new ones have died out and the old ones seem dormant
>>41009721real shit?
>>41009757I hope there's more zeebers these copper prices are TOO DAMN HIGH
>Imagine using spreadsheets>Imagine making leaps and building point-to-point>Imagine not making forward investments and walking the fine edge of death with unstable growth steps>Imagine not making plans and calcs for the shit on hand and doing comparatively for future, never to think on it again instead of sheets>Imagine keeping anything on mind other than the ROI variance and building target with current taken riskIt's almost as if fags don't want to grow 10 ticks in 1 and singlehandedly crash the market.Nice to see the thread up though. I wanna play on easy mode next, reset when?
>>41009891play burro thenif anyone deserves an easy run, it's youI did the same kind of thing when starting out, intentionally tanking my sat for massive growth, everything planned out and recover from the death spiral at the very last tick. Had multiple people warn me my per tick is heavily unsustainable and offer advice etc, but it was all planned
>>41009891Sheets let you figure out growth steps at perfect precision, and you can have them be as small as you want, with as little margin between death as you want, just less error-prone than trying to do it all in your headDe-risking is also good for alliance management where you can't rely on your every ally being 100% perfectly infailible, on-time and fully active and with as much flawless building autism as you, it's better for everypony to grow safely together than for people to randomly die due to mistakes - this goes quadruple if you want to rely on them for your own build plans, and them being complacent would kill you due to your risk, it's never worth playing that dangerous unless it's literally someone you know IRL or something
>>41009444This. Stick to 3-4 days of supplies at all times to remove human error from equation.
>>41009980Meant to reply to >>41009931
>>41009721Seems like it.
>>41009846Nigga buy from me, then.
>>41009931Playing "that dangerously" was accounting solo, not alliance resources, and if anything, it was the opposite of that in the end tooAlso didn't do sheets, but as far I see it gives a faraway target and maybe the resources needed for that if you put that in, but it doesn't give you a path on how to get there. So if it's safety you seek with it, you do the line two on my post and just jump straight to the target instead of making use of what you haveAnd on that same note>>41009986That's a huge waste of resources one could be investing everywhere else. Even if one wants to play safe, on the start, 12 ticks is more than enough as long you come in daily, and if you'll stay away for longer, just prepare for that, 24 ticks/2 days should account for mostly anything.
>>41010108>as far I see it gives a faraway target and maybe the resources needed for that if you put that inI mean. It gives you a target, any target you set.If you set a faraway target then sure. You can also set a very nearby target: effectively the same thing you might be doing in your head, but validated to be the optimal next step.You can also use spreadsheets to set yourself a faraway target and then manually work your way to it by figuring out the path in your head. It's fine and dandy to always build an extra farm provided you have enough sat, but the calculations to determine whether the basic or the advanced farm is currently optimal to expand quickly get tedious - it's exactly the sort of calculation a spreadsheet automates for you. Or which sat building will be optimal. Things like that.Ultimately though it's a game of trading so what's "optimal" depends on what you can trade... so really spreadsheets are most useful in alliance contexts, where they allow you to coordinate a few (or a dozen) players and balance their resources out. Should you build more oil? No you shouldn't, because you have more production than a fellow sandzigger, so it's more sat-efficient if you stay put and he expands first right now! Now you're equal, should you build more oil? No you shouldn't, because the alliance is short on copper but there's a healthy oil surplus, so the zeebs have priority on expanding! Now they've expanded, should you build more oil? Sure, and should you build more toy and candy shops? No, the alliance is tight on applies, but there's a surplus of coffee nobody really needs, build a few dozen coffee shops!If you're playing solo the calculus is definitely much simpler, as you build as much as you can afford based on the resources you can source. A spreadsheet is still helpful as described at the top of my post, but less utterly essential.>That's a huge waste of resourcesAgain, not in an alliance setting.Should you build more oil? Definitely, we're tight on apples but two burrozil players are also expanding your apple farming, so you'll be covered! They just need to get the copper from our zeebs and we'll have all the apples we'll need.Congrats on your new oil! Oh, the zeebs were asleep, then one didn't log in until the evening, so the burros haven't built yet. You're running at an apple deficit. Oh, one burro has built up but the other is apparently caught up in something and hasn't logged in for two days, so we're still at a small apple deficit.This kind of thing happens absolutely all the time. An alliance cannot function at tick-per-tick accuracy, unless again you're coordinating IRL or something.>as long as you come in dailyThat alone becomes a tall ask as the game draws on for weeks and months. Some people will, but you aren't gonna get a 100% daily login rate for every single one of your trade partners.
>>41010136too long didnt read llol
>>41010094>60000 perThat is 6 million for 100 copper and that is TOO DAMN HIGH
>>41010156I guess someone else grabbed it, I was selling it cheap.
>>41010160Ah okay thenPlease put moar soon thangk you
>>41010166Put up an order, and I'll fill it to best of my abilities I have 102 copper.
>>41010170Oh yeah good idea
>>41010136>Varying target lengthSure I guess, didn't mean that you can only set long term goals, but then at short lengths I just see it as a more cumbersome way to do things since you'd need to keep inputting and updating the upgradesAnd yea, I mostly used the market, deals and alliance being secondary in income, so your point for "optimal" could be it too.>Resouce wasteThat point utterly associates with an alliance wide resouce management, not individual management, so yea if you need to balance everyone, doing it in one's mind alone will never work>Chore and not logging in dailyAnd that's why I added "in the start", as later on you naturally end up with a higher storage here and there, or everywhere if you're building safely.And even then, you usually have the means to manage and keep a bigger resource pool planned or just stockpile to not need to worry. At that point it's not even keeping 36-48 storage, but how much you're willing to spend for "comfort"
Hmmmm. Should I accept the care package and get big, or stay more or less solo...
>>41010209Well it would be beneficial to me for you to participate in the economy so I say get it.
>>41010301Alright Anon, just for (You) <3
need... copper....... or...... its over...................
>>41010398who, and how much?
>>41010409in buyers, 1000 a pop, i can raise it if you want
>>41010413based mare enslaver? coppah sent
>>41010441indeed, thank you o7
Machinery.Buyers.
quick quick quick quick prease
4 MINUTES AAAAAAAAA
DANKE
AAAAGHH I NEED MONEY AND COPPAH UNTIL NEXT TICKto give me money please please please buy my apples for 80.000 each and to give me coppah please fill my order in the buyers market thank you :)
>>41010525Hope you don't die, or else the irony of your helper will hunt you in the afterlife
>>41010588No. Find other way to rebalance, even if it means you fucked up and need to destroy things to rebalance, survive then rebuild.
>>41010601i don't need it to survive lol, i need it to build envirosneeded until next tick because i already improved relations, they lower every tick so i'll have to do it again next tick
*farms sat and copper for a while*LOL
>>41010597I'm just efficiencymaxxing I wanted to upgrade my farms on the same tick for UNLIMITED APPEL.>>41010588I'll trade you the rest of my copper for 400 apples
>>41010628>I'll trade you the-SOLD
>>41010636buyan
>>41010646soldeed
I just realized I sold high when I was buying
>>41010597Kek I realized what you mean, it would unironically be over.Fuck, imagine a war...
DID SOMEBODY SAY WAR?????!!!
n-no
I heard warIt's finally happening?Woo, war, baby!
>>410107102 more weeks
>log back into >CLOP today>my nation is not dead yet
WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR!!!!
warCHADS... is it time?
YES YES IT IS, ATTACK!! INVADE!
>>41010809But Lime is still stased and can't join the fun...
there's no war goin on anywhere..
>>41010858Trust the plan
>>41010920War. War never happens.
>>41010612You should have all the copper for the enviros prepared already at the point where you ship the oil there for the relations, otherwise it's a waste
>log back into >CLOP today>my nation is still in space
>go to sleep>-39 satisfaction>all my oil is goneWTF happened?
>>41011509check reports?
>>41011550Are you taking me for some kinda egghead?
>>41011585you can't seem to manage your resources, so... no
>>41011596........................... ;_; iam trying to mange please dont bully iam not the anon who claimed you think i am the eggead...........................
>>41011452preparations? never heard of it
TIME FOR MY COUNTRY TO FALL GUYS IT'S BEEN A GOOD TWO DAYS.
>>41011728Can I help you?
>>41011868Nah Bro, it's okay, I think I need toys to raise Sat and I should've made some plastics factory and another oil combustion center.
>>41011897If you REALLY need toys to survive this tick, I got a handfull to spare, just make a buy order.
>offboarder general
>>41011509>>41011550>>41011625well????>>41012109Nigger I have literally not been able to get off this board because of this game.
>>41012193I ran out of toys, do not worry the toy stores are fully stocked.For now...
>>41012109based
>>41012261You need to get your sat up as fast as you can, or those rebels will keep multiplying and you wont be able to beat them all at next wartick.
>>41012286I'm working on it, thank you Anon.
>>41012418Anything you need? I've got some stuff I can part with.
>>41012651Anon, I truely don't know if I do, I accept my fate as a terrible leader.
>>41012661Put up a buy order for anything you need at minimum price and I'll try to fill it.
>>41012675I think the only thing to do is spiral out of control, so I'm going to revel in the poor choices I've made, and go as insane as I can, get it while it's hot, folks cheap copper.
>>41012693It's definitely controllable with assistance, and I'd rather have an existing zeb than a bit of copper now and you starting from scratch.
>>41012713Well, the rebels are getting restless, Anon, and I really don't know what I need to get out of this pickle.I will sit on this and do my best to see how I can overcome this.
okay i actually did have an idea with tht head of mine. u should be able to put things on the resources marketplace automatically like "yeah every tick put up 12 apples at X price"
>>41012718Post a full screenshot of your stockpiles and I'll figure it out for you.
>>41012724Alrighty, thanks Anon.
>>41012744What the fuck, are you still there? I can fix everything.
>>41012765I'm still here, yes.
>>41012769Check deals, you have got a package.
>>41012786Thank you very much, Anon, I appreciate this.
>>41012792You have got 41 rebels, make 41 units of cannon fodder to counter them, make sure it is calvary since you don't have gas for tanks. Renable all sat buildings and use all pies I gave you.
>>41012801they will also need to burn some oil for energy since they're outmake sure no resources per-tick says "NONE"
>>41012806This. Burn oil once.
>>41012744>>41012801Also post a buy order for like 10 gasoline for 1k and I'll fill it, for your existing tanks
>>41012744Any modestly developed nation can fix that easily. If I still had a country I'd send a small pie stockpile and a few guns, and wouldn't even notice the expense. Granted, people aren't going to be as rich these days since there are so few players. The point still stands. Don't hesitate to accept help, strong countries NEED trading partners, and would be happy to fix that to get a reliable copper seller or apple/oil buyer.If you can find the aid, the top priority is to survive the coming war tick. A few cavalry with barding armor can endure pretty easily; unarmed units like rebels kill 1/4 of a unit per war tick before armor is calculated, and if memory serves barding halves damage from cavalry. Check the armor guide since it's been a while, but if I'm right you only need 1 cavalry per 8 rebels. Remember that you'll need 5 apples per cavalry in addition to your regular needs.Don't worry about destroying the rebels for now. You just need to survive. If you CAN give your soldiers weapons it's better since you won't have to deal with them for as long, but they can be there pretty much forever as long as you never run out of soldiers.A quick and dirty way to fix your satisfaction would be to disable 7 copper mines. As long as you're above -100 in loose despotism you're safe, so losing 7 more from disabled buildings but losing 14 less from the mines would get you to -0. Having so few mines turned on hurts, so consider that a very short term fix. You want to get those bars back online as soon as you can find some apples.
>>41012801They only need 11 units to survive this tick. And that's assuming they don't have armor, which is probably a safe assumption now that I think about it for more than a moment. There's going to be basically no copper in the economy, and his stockpiles are 0, so making gear would be hard.
>>41012813Not only this, but make sure to disable enough mech mines temporarily to get your net energy production positive.
>>41012825I forget, do incoming defense units come in before or after attacks?
>>41012813I work too fast, problem got already solved sorry bro.>>41012825I am not in right state of mind for math, I have sent him 10 million bits, 1k apple, 1k oil and 250 pies. This is good enough.
>>41012831Mech mines only cost 1 satisfaction before environmental damage, so turning them off doesn't make a difference to net satisfaction right now.>>41012837I believe that they'll fight on the tick they arrive, but I'm not confident about that.>>41012840Problem solved? Great!
>>41012837No idea.
>>41012831>energyOh. I'm retarded, you're right.
>>41012850Disabling mech mines is to make sure energy net is positive to keep things running, not for sat
>>41012801>>41012812I have taken these two into account and I am figuring out what to spend bits on once I get copper to build buildings, I'm thinking another oil combustion plant for more energy, disabling the toy shop for now and getting a cafe instead for the time being.>>41012813This is a lot of pressure, but goddamn it I will be a distributor of the finest goddamn copper and gems you will feast your eyes upon.In a tick or two, when I've gotten my bearings.
>>41012867And maybe once you're out of the fire you can consider joining the Free Winds alliance and we can have a mutually beneficial and profitable relationship?
>>41012867Another package sent. Fix yoir shir please i am going to sleep.
>>41012874I'm on it, thanks again, fixing my country, and deleting the rebels.>>41012873I don't see why not.
>>41012882You should be 100% good for killing the rebels with what you have. you'll end up with like 20 cav left over if my calc is right.
i misclicked like a retard and fucked up my plan and don't have the resources to bounce back from it well. can someone list copper on the market? at a normal price, i have the bits
>>41012982how much?
>>41012991just 20
>>41012996listed
It's great to see this thread so lively.
>>41013556Maybe I spoke too soon.
>>41013925lmao
>>41013925Thank you for the curse
>The Solar Empire has destroyed Republic of Enslaved Ponies
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>4 REBELS LEFT STILL OCCUPYING MY NATION RAPING UP MY RESOURCE HAPPINESSWHAT THE FUCK
Why you ziggas sleepin'?
>>41015665The more important question is why you aren´t extracting precious DNA REEEEEEEEEE
I forgot that I was saving money and I spent my money
>>41015999i am
>>41016131saving for?
>>41016298big things
>>41015999why would anyone do that
>>41016445Making a push for environmental facilities?
Is the dev still workng on this ?
Clop bump.
>>41017207Doubt the original dev is.
>>41017207Barely any spare time these days, and what I have is typically spent on other projects.I'm still hoping to reset this, but feel without some code changes first it would just quickly die again.The problem is this code is dated and difficult to change at all, so we could only do minor changes, which may not be sufficient to make the game feel fresh
I don't know what to do anymore
well everyone in my alliance is dead except for me again. this is tough
>>41019336Why didn't you save them?
I want to believe.
Gee mister, why do you need all that DNA of my nation, Mister?
>Kurt from /tlhg/ found this game>He's probably lurking on /mlp/Oh dear.
>>41020215>/tlhg/the loud house general?
>>41020226Yes.He talks about his massive IQ in every thread he's in.
>>41020233links?
>>41020321https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/47120021/#q47120021https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/trash.desu.meta/text/413%20IQ/Are some examples, but these are from years ago.
>>41020348ok, why should we care tho?
nobody sellin tungsten?
NEED CHEAP OILWHY YOU NIGGAS SELL THE BASIC RESOURCES FOR AN ARM AND A LEG?
>>41020980Somebody bought shitload of oil only to put it back on a market at higher price very smart. Why yes I read my sale reports and monitor the market.>Verification not required
WHY IS COPPER BEING SOLD AT 35000 JUST LOWER THE FUCKING PRICES YOU JEW REEEEEEE
>>41021129who - earth pony republic right?
>>41021132I sell cheap copper.
>>41021132PUT IN AN ORDER NOW.
Guys just fucking message each other to arrange mutually beneficial trades - in the short term that is, ideally you want mutually beneficial trade partnerships.Chasing the market day after day is a futile endeavour
>>41021142At least once yes, 8022 bought 2024-04-21 03:54:14. Looks like its over for market, viva state controlled, behead reselles by principle and all. >>41021172It was nice while it lasted.
yeah no this is bullshit. anyone want to make an anti-those guys alliance
>>41021190Let's go to war
Anybody knows of any pony name generators ? Im not creative enough to come up with a nation name.
>>41021204sure. but for reals .l ets do it just gotta embargo them first and then do a hopeless attack once we're all 21 days old
>>41021172I CAN'T I'M A FREE MARKET
>>41021234
>>41021216Use a normal nation name generator and add a horse pun
>>41021204Two more weeks. Start using buy order feature or deals. I will still fill these when I can.>>41021216Which nation type will you pick? You can trust this thread with coming up with username and nation name.
>>41021234Ok so first of all stopSecond of all you can still arrange buy and sell orders. You just have to suffer a bit more coordination.
>>41021256I guess I'll try an oil nation.
>>41021262>Ok so first of all stophow about YOU faggots stop and lower y'alls prices?
>>41021267>Y'allsI am suffering but because of that I hope the prices go higher.
>>41021268dont be racist against burrozilians they've got the farmer drawl
>>41021268
>>41021274I will be raising the price of my copper to one million per piece.
>>41021268what in tarnation pardner
>>41021292bold moves for somezebra within embargoing range
>>41021292A bargain, in these trying >CLOPonomic times
>>41021299You know these prices are good, now PAY UP to those who control your copper or FUCK OFF.>>41021301How much stacks of copper do you need my friend? I am selling for a 40mil minimum.
>>41021305i will buy ALL of your copper if you join my alliance, friend
>>41021309I'm in an alliance, I'm sorry Anon, but let's discuss prices, I will go no lower than 30mil.
>>41021314no no, you didn't get it. you will join my alliance (i accept everyone, literally everyone) and i buy your copper. you alliance, i copper. capisce?
>>41021320:(
>>41021323come on buddy, you'll love it in my alliance. all the good guys will be there
>>41021325Do you have thongs to provide my nation with clothing?Alright Anon what's your Alliance called, time to be an Alliance Slut.
>>41021330duh, of course we do! i sell anally trained ponies, do you really think i don't have exquisite lingeries to come with them? the alliance is 2nd Trade Blocand that goes for ALL of you out there! everyone is welcome in our alliance! THE FREE MARKET WILL LIVE!
>>41021343Oh shit, how to do I leave my old Alliance?
>>41021343Their alliance grows too strong. Unalignedbros, how do we respond?
>>41021364steady as she goes, let retards kill eachother.
>>41021364join us! we seek to not murder, but benefit each other mutually. and no, that doesn't mean we'll inevitably do the opposite thing like dictatorsip countries putting "democratic republic of" in their name. i really mean it
>>41021330>>41021346Filthy traitor
>>41021377I deserve this.
>>41021377he won't be a traitor if you join us too! please do, our trade bloc is about trade. everyone likes trade. >>41021386no you dont
>>41021388But can you do private trades in this game ?
>>41021404yes you canbutWWHO NEEDS THAT WHEN YOU CAN HAVE THE GLORIOUS FREE MARKET LIKE A TRUE LIBERTARIAN CHAD
>>41021404The Free Market retard can't
why is a nation with clear communist aesthetics in the free trade alliance
>>41021411i talked to him and he promised he won't do it again
>>41021343Way to poach my entire thing, anon. That's the goal of FWL.
Well fuck me I wanna join up and start building alliances again
>>41021475The villain arc begins. Make them pay.
>>41021490Tempting, Anon. I was part of the villain arc last time I played, though.
>>41021475was your league able to gather 5 members? and it's not my problem the market sucks so bad it becomes a reason to create alliances. you know how free market works, - where demand is, there will be supply. by the way, you can turn those 5 members into six by joining us (we will respect you)
>>41021500There was already an alliance to support keeping the market alive.
>>41021510in fact, there were several. mine is all but an attempt to unite them into one
>>41021516And you didn't even talk about your idea with the leaders, you just poached.
Okay, to be clear, we're in favor of LOWERING the bullshit prices, yes?
>>41021531I'm tempted to start buying low price oil out of spite, for sure.
>>41021530i invited all of you. is it that hard to just accept an invitation?>>41021531yes we are
>>41021495This world needs you again
>>41021495https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPU8OAjjS4k&pp=ygUXa3J5cHRvbml0ZSAzIGRvb3JzIGRvd24%3DAnon right now.
>>41021540You didn't ask, 'hey, would you be up for merging alliances together'? You just poached members.
>>41021549who are you in the game?
>>41021531Why do that? We have control now, let's raise the prices. Think of all the bits!
>>41021558You moron, I don't do it for the bits, I do it to see small nations like my own grow and thrive, and for big nations to feel needed and gain new allies in the upcoming Ponocaust™.
>>41021558>Think of all the bits!...that you won't get because nobody wants your overpriced copper
>>41021564You want some copper? Put in an order for no less than 30k and I'll fill it.
>>41021570i don't. but others sure do
>>4102157740k no negotiations!!!!!!!!!!!! now put those orders and cough it up for Big Copper.
>>41021549It didn't take much for your members to abandon you. Perhaps you are not a convincing leader
>>41021554Not hard to figure out, Anon.
>>41021564They will when I buy all the cheaper stock so there is nothing else on the market
>>41021590you had one member. what's your problem seriously? just follow where your one member went and voila you're whole again! what's bad about teaming up?
>>41021594Based
>>41021607Shameless
>>41021637will you join if i apologize? :(
I'll be honest poaching is a somewhat scummy tactic but if your alliance members just up and left upon receiving a single invitation, you didn't have much of an alliance in the first placeLike seriously what kind of leaders are you that your alliance-mates just run away on the first competing offer
If it means that much to you I'll come back.
>>41021735>poachingsince when are we considering members as property?
what are you people arguing about
>>41021838People.
>>41021857I see, people things.
>>41021746Poaching isn't about property, Anon.
>>41021995Bro.
>>41021995Brah.
>>41022025>>41022034It's not my fault you don't understand what poaching an idea or poaching members of an organization is.
>>41022280how about you poach my semen faggot
traitor zebricans will be exterminated i am coming for your nation, expect it, i hope you don't sleep you sniveling little coward
So, whats stopping a saddle arabian nation from taking the manufacturing role a Przewalskian one ?
Thank you care package anon for helping out this third world country/
>>41022506Bits
>>41022506don't get any funny ideas
>>41022528You mean because you would have to build the combustion plants first ? What about after that when you got enough of them coupled with a big oil production ?
>>41022506Not much beyond inflated manufacturing cost.Remember, when it comes to parts, what you need 40k bits for, Prze needs only 400 bits to make
>>41022506Same thing stopping a burrozil or a zebrican nation, duhSaddle arabians don't get anything special for parts manufacturing (unlike przs)
>>41022518>Third worldBro, don't even lie you were a fifth world country, you just got bumped up to third right now.
Could any Prze nation start selling machine parts at a reasonable price ? Because at 50k a unit I might as well make them myself for 30k with my own copper.
>>41023323Please ignore, I have no copper this tick.
>>41023311Well with that said Im selling a small amount of copper for 12k. If any prze wants to grab it and sell me back not overpriced parts I'll gladly put more cheap copper for sale.
Hey Yuri, just to help with your pricing, non prze nations pay 20k to make vehicle parts. Check the oil price right now for the energy needed and do the math.
>>41023430Actually, I'll just leave this here for reference to any prze newcomers.
>>41023430
What do burro nations need to make coffee ?
>>41023524a bit of Energy
>>4102352410 vehicle parts, 5 machinery, 200,000 bits and 1 energy per tick
>>41023530Thats all ? No extra materials ? Does it lower sat ?
>>41023433I'll post the reference images I took for the other nations' actions in case anyone else is curious
>>41023550
>>41023553What about saddle arabia ?
>>41023553I didn't get Saddle Arabia because I was playing one at the time, if someone else could get that
>>41023561Where's the solar and tidal collector options ?
>>41023561
>>41023598I didn't screencap those because they were limited. They're 100,000 bits each for 1 free energy. They also get a single initial factory for just 100,000, and the factories after that cost less bits: 150,000 for a Basic and 500,000 for an Advanced. I would retake that screenshot, but the test server is dead
>>41023659>150,000 for a Basic and 500,000 for an AdvancedWas there any downside for buildidng those besides the initial cost ?
>>41023666They have the same energy, satisfaction and resource costs as the other regions do, just the price in bits is different
>"Hello and welcome, everyone,It's time for a grand opening,To welcome Big Bootopia'sTungsten Mine with joy and roaring!I know lots of families have bring,Their little sweet zeebs to look in,But please be careful, keep track of them,If they get lost in the mind,They'll belong to the mine., If you're interested in buying Tungsten,You have to give our country some time,We're willing to negotiate a price,For our precious mineral that's divine."
Anybody got more machine parts to sell ?
My big project is done. I can now be more liberal with selling my resources
>>41023311Can't sell for less than I bought copper taxes from purchase and sale included.>>41023371Hmu, as long as manufacturing parts is not net negative and it is done via deals I don't care. DNA extraction is all that matters now. Still I would rather not take Juria's job.
>>41023954>Still I would rather not take Juria's job.If he bothered making more then I would buy. He made a ton of vehicle parts but only a small amount of machine parts.
>>41023937Prices will return to 27,000 next tick.Was bringing oil combustion online to double output.
55 machinery up right now.
Sleipnaria check your incoming deals for a package. You have got rebels to kill tonight.
>Rebel Group 5767Hasn't this game only been running for a year?Are you guys deliberately keeping your nations unhappy?
>>41024091I hope that nigga's okay, we ate lunch one time.
>ZebricansLOL
>>41024104Some people have suicided in the past by bringing their sat into the negative thousands, thus spawning a shitload of rebels. I don't remember if you get rebels on a -5000 explosion, but even so some may have fucked up and not gotten -5000 on the first tick.Late game it's also pretty easy to get to negative thousands (e.g. due to a mistake) and survive as long as you don't instaexplode. Rebels are piss easy to beat, as long as you have access to some resources (e.g. due to stockpiles that you had just mismanaged for one tick somehow, or friends or alliance members bailing you out) you can get to like -4000, spawn a zillion rebels, then eat a thousand pies and make a few cavalry to wipe out the rebels and be good as new.
Pone
>>41024278Conquest also has a tendency to generate a lot of rebels. People aren't always around right after their armies land, and it takes a bit of adjusting to make builds work with new governments or empire penalties.
Conquer more.
COME DOWN TO YURI'S USED CAR DEALERSHIP.THE MARKET IS SLASHING PRICES AND I AM PASSING THE SAVINGS ON TO YOU!
The Frigid Wind Front is now accepting applications from potential new members who oppose the underhoofed leadership of the 2nd Trade Bloc.
Fuck it I'm jumping in>burro shortage in the statsReee I wanna produce something cool like copper and tungsten, but it sounds like I'd just starve
>>41026423Only cool type to join right now is prze, every basic rersource is cheap right now, just waiting to be bought by someone to produce affordable parts.
>>41026460Nice bait, I'm not doing prze unless you can provide proof that all 5 existing ones are all dead or afk
>>41026472Here's the machine parts market just to have an idea. Copper and oil are being sold really cheap ( around 2k and 3k ) but only one nation is trying to sell the parts at a not ridiculous price.
>>41026480Vehicle parts is a bit better, but could still improve.
>>41026480>>41026490>marketHave you tried actually talking to people?If all przs are colluding to price-fix, that doesn't mean that there are no parts being manufactured. You're just letting them price-fix.And in the long run there's only so much demand for part manufacturing capacity, and not enough to justify feeding 5(!) przs out of ~20 players. Not unless everyone fractures into exactly 5 different tiny alliances and insists on only sourcing parts domestically.
>>41026423As long as you make a buy order for apples, I won't let you starve.
>>41026490As for the precision and composites market, they are both stuck at 150k and 130k minimum with no activity. Even copper nations could undersell these with those prices.
vladihooftstock here im not the bigges prze but im back baby
>>41026480>>41026490>>41026503Looks like the 2nd Trade Bloc is failing at their stated goal, to me.
>>41026621JUST GIVE US TIME TO BUILD UP OKAY
>>41026708Chill out man, he's just jealous, okay, just relax, he's mad that he doesn't have what we do.
I will begins selling machinery around 7K once my stockpile exceeds 1,000; I have to take some measures to prevent horrific resales. Should start by this evening.
Genuinely, is there any apple shortage, or can I safely go ziggerCause global stats are looking BAD
>>41026752There was some for like 3K a bit ago, it's probably just resellers trying to steal everything.
>>41026757>resellersI'm talking about the global production stats
>>41026761I think that's just because Lunatic has two end-game nations neither of which are burro. They probably have billions of apples in stockpile.
>>41026775>new maresanto>end-game burro>it's still not enoughloli guess new maresanto is what feeds lunatic (for now at least while he still has stockpiles left)
i will put up 1k machinery next tickknown resellers have been embargoed
>>41026790You need more burros than any other nation. As a rough estimate, an end-game burro can feed around two nations - and they have to feed themselves, so you end up with something like nearly half of all nations needing to be burro. Bit less if you underbuild, more if you wanna max out all your nations.So a single burro is definitely nowhere near enough to feed 2-3 other end-game nations.
>>41026790Given that they seem to use half of their own production, perhaps we will need more Burros in the future.
>>41026792you're lying
>>41026858just listed it>>41026621we DID it!!!
>>41026862>just listed itOh I'm dumb. I thought you'd list parts for 1k, but you listed 1000 parts (for 5k). tfw reading comprehension
>>41026862>we DID it!!!don't speak too soon. we still have a lot of stuff to do
if i go democracy, can i just get 1/2 moon worship centers and saddle up with the new lunar republic for protection?
The alliance chat box really needs a minimize option.
>>41026902that's not exactly how it works. you'll get cheaper mercenaries for high relations i presume, but high relations with one power would mean constantly appeasing the other one. >Verification not required.
>>41026915>constantly appeasingOr you could simply offer on a small loan of 8000 oil and worship them like the gods they are.
>>41026923>loanLoan is the right word because you can cash it right back out as drugs
>>41026925But you'd have to pay off the other superpower with oil so they don't nuke you the moment your friend stops being your friend.If it's a loan, you're losing almost all of it to interest.Oil would have to sell for like 2,000 for drug dealing to be profitable as a non-burro.
>>41026902You could try to balance it like that, as long as you keep the sum of the relationships over -50. But remember, you start losing more relationship with one the higher your relationship with the other goes, and you also start gaining less relationship each tick the higher it is. If you slip up on that balance, you easily wind up with enemy forces trying to kill you
Going to try to not have my nation explode overnight this time.
>>41027167Boring
Reminder for new players: https://files.catbox.moe/4dkuti.js
>scout has left stasis>scout has gone into stasis
>>41027241>minizedfor what reason?
Holy shit, we're nearing the bump limit. WE'RE SO BACK!
>>41028143i think this is our new record
>>41028143Thread's going to die now
You guys like my nation, right?
>>41028255what nation are you
Hey. Saddle arabians. Stop being jewish retards. Machinery cannot be cheap if oil is expensive. -Sincerely, a fresh Prez
>>41028369Supply and demand.Maybe you should message a Saddle and try and make a deal? Cheap oil for cheap parts.
>>41028404Well, maybe you shouldn't cry about parts prices again then
>>41028407I never cried about parts prices.
>>41028369I put up some cheaper oil, sell me cheap parts pls
Reset when?
An idea would be that having a standing army (instead of just whipping up a trillion in one day) gives a morale boost to nations.>our brave ponies protect freedom! +50 mood>the mighty [nation name] pony does its duty, for a safer empire +30 moodLikewise, cooking up too big an army in too short a time gives an according debuff. >Our leaders are conscripting the humble pony! Oh the equinity! -200 moodCould be biased so you have more army morale benefits as a free trade nation rather than state controlled.Could even make it so each barrack ups your non-conscripted standing army ceiling, so 10 barracks lets you have a thousand troops, all granting the morale/mood boost, but having only 1 barrack and a thousand troops is treated as having 100 standing armypones and 900 conscripts.I feel this relatively minor (all things considered) change would heavily rework how armies behave and work, since you COULD levy a massive response army to a sudden invasion, but that wouldn't be sustainable, and raising a massive invasion force would be very expensive moodwise if you don't have the barracks to upkeep it. In that way, standing armies, while expensive, would be worth it, since yes, you're turning some amount of resources into army upkeep, but that upkeep is only once every 12h, instead of once every 2h, making it a more efficient, but not infinitely scaling, morale source.There's also the ever constant suggestions of adding alliancewide projects that benefit all who participate and are stupidly expensive, like shared power networks so one nation can go hyperspecialized and literally just make power, for example.
>>41028791One would have to be careful with balancing happiness from standing armies, given that troops take exclusively one item type, there would be the potential for a Saddle to keep its population happy exclusively by feeding oil to tanks, etc. Trade could collapse with that level of self sufficiency.
>>41028760When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.
>>41028791niceHow about>you can only conscript a certain number of units each tick>each conscripted unit above the limit gives incremental negative sat hitThat would limit the number of troops you can pull out of your hat, unless you want to pay for mercs, and would incentivise stedy army building.Maybe also limit the number of SE/NLR mercs avileable for hiring each tick behind relations with those superpowers.
>>41028791I really don't think armies are the problem.The biggest problems are the tendency for the market to collapse, and the difficulty new players have in balancing their nation, so we end up with a ton of very small nations who end up not being able to afford the rising cost of goods driven by the larger nations' growing needs not being supplied fully by the smaller nations.
Buying copper 10K.The muses call to my citizens, they require art supplies.
So I need to ask, is this game based on something with a pony coat of paint or is this a completely original thing?
>>41029840Its a pony reskin of a game called BLOC.
Is there any point in going over the enviromental limit on mechanized mines ? They seem to give a much bigger penalty in the long run compared to the normal mines according to that enviro loss chart.
>>41030122Yes. The environmental limit is a soft cap designed to slow your growth, not stop it. you still have plenty of growing to do.
Cattleonia was the best nation name. What a shame
>>41030122Environmental damage is tracked by building type, so 100 of each is much less damage than 200 mech or basic.
>nobody's selling vehicle partsree
>>41031035Sorry, just woke up.
>>41031035They were but I eated them
>>41031035throw it up in buyers resource market and i'll fulfill it when i can - same goes for vehicle parts and precision parts every1
WE NEED MORE PLAYERSplease feed us oil
>>41031456Drinking finest oil right now.
two weeks
fourteen days
>destroyed by the fucking LunarFuck, I didn't even know it'd be so fucking quick.
>>41032335You should make a Northern Prze, we need way more of them.
>>41032369>PrzeLOL no
Suggestion.Add more ponies.
336 hours
Big Bootopia has fallen.
what got ya
The mares big butts
>>41033559Billions must cry.
>>41033564New Lunar Republic.
Good morning, fellow >CLOPpers. War when?
If anyone wants some apples or coffee, just make a buy order.
>another North Prze
>>41035774Best I can do is constant rebellions.
really regretting my Przewalskia pick right now
>>41036912It's not that hard to intentionally die and then remake a new nationJust get yourself to -50 sat (use the burn oil action), next tick rebels will spawn, next wartick since you have zero defense even a single rebel will kill your natinOr if you have enough oil you can even get yourself to -5000 sat and die next tick without having to wait for a wartick, though at this stage in the game that's probably a bit costlyThen just make a new nation and pick whatever region you want
>>41036341People wanna be pollacks, but they don't wanna eat.
>bump limitIt's really happening.
So what the fuck do us Burros do?Nopony is buying apples, is our fate to become coffee exporting subject nations?
>>41037928I'm literally buying a fuckton of apples. What are you on about? Also yes, make more coffee. Coffee is important.
>>41037928We're still running a slight apple deficit. Although most of that is from the DNA binging.
Testserv still dead, I see.
>>41038027>Although most of that is from the DNA binging.Yuuup. But this my alliance problem, we are the ones paying for its upkeep.
>>41038027just 121 apples/tick out of 383, so only about 1/3 of apple deficit is due to DNA production
busy busy busy busy busy.
>>41038253You only are counting the production of the dna, not the multiple toy and candy shops needed to support them.
How do you people build both solar and lunar enviro centers ? I thought you couldnt get a high relation with one superpower without the other getting pissed off.
>>41038551yes, because sat penalty from potentially running more than one DNA fac. can be countered with a variety of sat buildings that take various amounts of apples, so including those into calculations muddle the numbers something fierce.
