EditionOLD THREAD: >>41016257Pony maps, sprays, and micspam!Reskinned vanilla maps (with mares) by our very own anons!Come relive the heyday of pony TF2 with your friends from /mlp/!Visit our official website to check out the server info from your browser: https://mlp.tf/If you'd like a custom icon on the mlp.tf scoreboard, post your Steam ID and attach your desired icon in the thread.>Server infoServer IP: tf2.15.ai OR 74.91.123.131:27015Password: check filenameSteam group: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/mlptf2_Map downloads (extract the .bz2 file, then place the .bsp file in /tf/download/maps): http://mlp.site.nfoservers.com/server/maps/Player stats: http://mlp.gameme.com/Download demos from matches (request demos in the thread): http://mlp.site.nfoservers.com/server/demos/Active hours: 7-9pm to 12-4am EDT (32-64 players)Custom MvM also available for early hours (42 player limit) and other gamemodes like Death Run or VSH for after-hours.This server uses a plugin that changes the stats of some weapons. See https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2717299 for more info. All reverts except for the old airblast are active by default, and most reverts can be toggled in-game.Consider installing mastercomfig if you have frequent frame drops, bad hitreg, poor network connectivity, or are new to the game. See https://mastercomfig.com/ for easy installation. It is STRONGLY recommended that all players install some preset of mastercomfig since TF2's default netcode settings have not been changed since 2007.THERE IS NO DISCORD SERVER ASSOCIATED WITH THIS THREAD. Any post mentioning "the /mlp/ TF2 Discord" is a troll and should be ignored./vg/-style chatroom-posting is OFF-TOPIC and should be reported as such.No one is judged for being new to the game, and skill level across the playerbase varies.Join the fun!
>GuidesWebsite for making in-game sprays: https://rafradek.github.io/Mishcatt/Micspam guide: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39428553/#q39430287Guide to adding pony models to any map: https://ponepaste.org/9223Pony mod collection: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/37462569/#37462590Pony model replacements with voiceovers: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39697428/#39701005Pony war paint texture mods collection: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39788496/#q39796303Having trouble with sprays showing up in-game? Put the following in the developer console: https://u.smutty.horse/mfwtrwijazh.txtGetting error signs instead of pony models? Download them manually here: https://github.com/EtraIV/SpawnPony (place the materials folder into /tf/download).>Videos and content/mlptf2/ videos playlist (highlights, karaoke nights, Anon Fridays, etc.): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlaewUctCKsJqnVcSDf3d9oIBSpewUQsO/mlptf2/ intro: https://u.smutty.horse/maqwtlmafwl.mp4/mlptf2/ New Years (2023 edition): https://u.smutty.horse/mlakpjgcooh.mp4/mlptf2/ 2-year anniversary: https://youtu.be/4fzG-WLKIyc/mlptf2/ 3-year anniversary: https://youtu.be/e269nQZnqcY
ART ANCHOR POSTThe next OP mare is Octavia Melody. Reply to this with your art if you want to have it voted on as being the next thread's OP art.
>>41030807Nice thread Dashie
dashie kiss
>>41030817not posting the 2nd OP picture made for us in the 2nd post is kinda thoughtless
>>41030832>thoughtlessYou're right
>>41030832Fuck, my bad. I was actually thinking we can use the other submission for the next thread but I’m in my bed right now. I’ll post it tomorrow as a submission or if someone else can anchor it that would be great.
>>41030818Reposting the second version from last thread
>>41030823Anon with eyes is cursed.
>>41030823what if we kissed?
So what are we going to do about jump maps? Not all of us are good at playing as the demoman, soldier, etc. classes and you can probably tell that I may have been completely new at jump maps because I just earned the Highland Fling achievement last night.
>>41030328Depending on when you got kicked it could be a matter of not having the basics for comp down, being non-communicative, or even just availability. Things got a bit more strict on who we decided server entry to. If you want to come back to the team, contact Manyu, I'm always here if you want to come back, we still have plenty of spots open for both formats depending on how things go since things are more lenient now that both of the teams will essentially have fresh rosters.
>>41031057No, we kicked a cheater and an accomplice to a cheater. I have my doubts that they will be coming back.
>>41031025>So what are we going to do about jump maps?we're going to continue playing them>Not all of us are good at playing as the demoman, soldier, etc.great, jump maps will help with that>I just earned the Highland Fling achievement last night.grats
'ate jump'ate deathrun'ate prophuntluv me REAL tf2simple ashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIu_tDxI4Fc
>>41031063this is compfag matters so i have 0 idea who you are unless you're talking about something else entirely, i surely don't remember kicking potential cheaters pre-season
>>41031108Surfchads… we’re so back
>>41031057I also got kicked, no one on the team said anything to me about it. None of you seem to stick up for your so called friends, probably not worth being part of a team like that so I will not be participating
>>41031273what will they ever do without a dramawhore like you
>>41031273apologies that 15 threw a tantrum and kicked everyone he didn’t like
>>41031108Most ABAP post in this thread.
>>41031282stop taking the bait
rarity brap
Do I paint this + fast learner purple for twily or orange + yellow shirt for Sunset.
>>41030690> yes, it can "rewind" hitboxes, but only for the swing. not for the charge collision itself.yes, if it rewinded both it wouldn't be easier, but because lag can rewind your target's hitbox after you charge them, and charge impacts aren't effected by lag, it means that the gap you have to followup after a charge hits is literally longer. while yes, high ping charges are jank, as long as your ping is consistent, you can absolutely learn the timing. just like using projectiles on higher ping, you need to learn to play with the delay, and while it can be difficult to do so, there are plenty of high ping people who are amazing at rocket jumping and using projectiles on this server despite the gap in lag compensation between movement and projectile aiming.>you have to aim your charge at this ghost of a player that's not there, using your own ghost that isn't where you think it is. that's not it yet tho, because your swing itself IS lag compensated. so you have to perform this combo using both a non-lag-compensated mechanic and a lag-compensated mechanic which makes it nigh impossible to perform in a real game on a real player.nothing about this makes it impossible. there are plenty of examples of people using lag-compensated and non-lag-compensated mechanics together and being fine with it. using charges at high ping, despite being janky (as all melee is), is absolutely something you can weave into your demoknight gameplay despite the hurdles. >don't speak until you've actually played with ping and tried making this work.i learned to play demoknight on much higher ping than i play on this server nowadays (i had a combination of playing regularly on a west coast community server despite being on the east coast, really shitty internet and no wired connection) and while it's unintuitive, it's definitely usable.
>>41031063Hopefully those losers never show their faces around here again
>>41031443Dashie
>>41031125Because it’s hard to have fun when it’s impossible to play the game and one loses confidence in one’s abilities to play it.
>>41031461thoughts?
>>41031841Thoughtless
>>41031841Zat scout is a spy!
>>41031841The effect works wonders for Shimmer and the RED drip is flawless, but the BLU one is not as good. I still think it overall works better than the Twilight one.
>>41031841>>41031868Wasn’t there a video about a scout and a spy getting into some kind of 1v1 and it turning out that the scout was a Dead Ringer spy who could somehow shoot while in disguise?
>>41031876thank you anon, i was really unsure because of the blue.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/18zNaxGWGQHw25fZGs2V25sjvfSS5oPPamKH0npF5J1s/ posting the comp survey again
>>41031943hold on this isn't gay sex survey...
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>>41032449>"Start the game already!"
Been having issues staying connected to some servers ever since I moved houses. I'm on xfinity wifi now instead of Verizon wired.Sometimes I randomly "freeze." I can look around and hit my class/team menu, but any input doesn't go through so I'm just stuck in one place. Server messages come through on my end but I can't send anything in chat either. This used to happen after 30 minutes or so of connect time, but just now it happened almost immediately. When I try to reconnect it sits on "Connecting to server" for like 10-20 seconds and then boots me, saying it failed after 4 retries. I found a temp fix of just switching to a different network then switching back, or just hard rebooting my PC, but it seems to be happening more frequently tonight and it's kind of annoying.Can anypony help?
Found a fix to change my clientside port range in the launch options. I think it worked...
>2230>Still on jump
>>41032626Marewater time
17/64 on pl_marewater_b6
>>41032545That happens to me when I completely lose internet connection for a couple of seconds. When that happens, immediately check if your computer still has internet by opening google or something, your computer, not your phone. See if it's not a general internet issue first is what I'm saying
>>4103263730/64
Is there any particular reason why I can’t see the payload map/HUD? I can see it fine on other servers.
33/64 pl_mareward_b1
>>41032695happened again, seems the port range fix didn't work. I did still have internet connection.Despite everything freezing, I could still hear Spider's mic spam up until I manually dc'd and quit the game. This shit is fuckin dumb.
>>41032751Have you tried downloading more Internet?
Dude, idk what the fuck is going onhttps://files.catbox.moe/yi7y08.mp4
36/64 on pl_poneo_b1
>>41032776mares in your walls chewing the internet cables
>>41032779WHY ARE THEY LETTING ME CONNECT TO UNCLETOPIA BUT NOT /MLP/
>>41032781/mlp/ humiliation ritual
Spiderb8 you have to restart your PC I think
>>41032793>I thinkI don't get it
>>41032793Try "+clientport 27018" in launch options then restart your game Spider
>>41030232
If you are playing using Proton, you will need to disable it. I don’t know what this issue is, but I never could join while using Proton.
>>41032807>Using ProtonFor what purpose? OpenGL just werks
>>41032809I had an issue with the latest update for a while, but I could get it to work with Proton. However, I could not join secure servers.
>>41032806thank you very much i love it :D
Low HP warrior
I still have no idea how this visual glitch happened
Hey mares I had a lot of fun tonight! This server is the main reason I look forward to playing tf2 almost every night. Thanks everyone for being here ^:)
>>41032802haha Dashie is such a gooner like me
>>41033090Me too Anon. This server is the only reason why TF2 is still my favorite game. Love you guys.
>>41032806>Goes into extensive autistic detail on how teleported different kinds of bread for 3 daysRarity: "God I love him so much"
Am I the only one who thinks MLP could have been made into a musical of some kind? It would not have had to involve performers on stage in costumes, but it could have been animated and edited like the other films and episodes were.
>>41033303>Am I the only one who thinksYes
>>41032776So per >>41032545 you no longer are wired to your machine? If the equipment has physical ports, I'd try that first. If not, maybe see if they have the option to use your own WiFi access point/router. If you're still getting traffic inbound when this happens, I could see it either being weirdness using WiFi (computer issue) or the new network equipment dropping your outbound traffic after a period of time (network issue). Try running a continuous ping to 1.1.1.1 while playing and check that for timeouts when this happens.
My idea on how to stop bots>tf2 is no longer f2p, instead it costs $5 which is a price achievable even for third worlders>hire a human to manually look at bot accounts and manually permaban them>even at a laughably low work efficiency of 100 bots banned a day that would be $500 a day bot hosters would need to sustain their operation, which is unsustainable to 99.99% of the world population and certainly completely unsustainable to russian and chinese bot hosters>in reality a single guy banning obvious bots could approach 500 bans a work day without breaking a sweatproblems with this solution:>tf2 now costs $5, which nobody should really care about except children that are abused by their parents so badly they can't even get $5>gaben would need to get off his fat ass and pay some guy minimum wageOverall I think these changes are a 100% foolproof solution to ending the bot problem forever. Tell me if I missed anything.
>>41033651Dashie
>>41033651doesnt matter if they ban the accounts. a banned account can connect to a server if you try enough times.unless the 64 bit update fixed that but i kind of doubt
>>41033651>tf2 is no longer f2p, instead it costs $5 which is a price achievable even for third worldersThe sniper spinbots are all premiun accounts
>>41032776this clip took me like an hour to download, fuck catbox
>>41033664not all of them. but from those that are yes they problem is that they're not being banned by VAC. daily manual bans by a human would prevent premium bots altogether.
>>41033678everybody should move over to https://pomf.lain.la/
is there still a twitch stream
>>41033651>>tf2 is no longer f2p, instead it costs $5 which is a price You’re assuming that those using bots don’t have this kind of dough already.>>hire a human to manually look at bot accounts and manually permaban themYou could also try building an AI that reviews live server diagnostic information, but make its decisions subject to moderator review.>>even at a laughably low work efficiency of 100 bots banned a day that would be $500 a day bot hosters would need to sustain their operation, which is unsustainable to 99.99% of the world population and certainly completely unsustainable to russian and chinese bot hostersIf it costs $5 per day for anyone to play, it would cost just under $2K per year for just about everyone as well. Even if this does somehow alienate bots, it may also alienate people who don’t get paid nearly enough to be able to fork over this kind of money.>>in reality a single guy banning obvious bots could approach 500 bans a work day without breaking a sweatHaving a single person monitor multiple servers would take a significant amount of time and it would only mean one’s attention would be focused on one server alone, with cheating going on in the servers one is not monitoring. Having AI monitor the activity patterns of the players and reporting this to either server or Valve moderators would mean the focus would be on multiple players across multiple servers.>>tf2 now costs $5, which nobody should really care about except children that are abused by their parents so badly they can't even get $5Under your solution, it would cost them $5 per day to play the game and parents may not be willing to part with $2K per year if they are that busy caring for their children.>100% foolproof No solution is 100% foolproof and there will inevitably be false bans, as well as those who slip through the cracks. Any sort of system like the one I describe or anyone else would propose would likely involve statistical probabilities of series of events occurring without the aid of an aimbot, meaning that some unlucky people may find themselves banned or flagged for bans while playing legitimately and other luckier people may simply evade the system undetected.
>>41033814Not that guy but wanted to point out it was 5 bucks to purchase the game, not 5 bucks a day. He's saying that for every 100 bots a hoster spins up, that's 500 dollars down the drain for them.
>>41033814Are you the troll that pretends to be new and retarded?
>>41033658This may cause worse problems than not being able to connect to the server, but I agree that banning accounts may not be the best avenue of approach here, since it could mean that cheaters instead try to create burner accounts.
>>41033814>You could also try building an AI that reviews live server diagnostic information, but make its decisions subject to moderator review.what is the point of having an AI decide instead of a human if you have to pay a human to look it over anyways? just do what the guy said and hire an intern to look over reports made by players and ban the bots manually.
>>41033897even simpler, modify casual servers to have 1 "reserved" slot that can go to 25 players. have him move around casual servers and ban the obvious bots. I don't know if there's way to make him joining invisible to other players but I'm sure Valve with full access to the source coude and their experience can figure it out.The reason community servers don't have both is because they are banned instantly by their community admins. If we extend this solution to casual servers and add the friction of $5 per ban it would end the crisis within a week. But Gaben and Valve are too fucking retarded and would probably dismiss a "crude" solution like this and would instead spend 10 years developing a super epic AI solution because they're too proud.
>>41033879>but I agree that banning accounts may not be the best avenue of approach here, since it could mean that cheaters instead try to create burner accounts.did you miss the part where it costs $5. how would you expect them to "just create burner accounts" to keep their 1000 bots wide botnet running?
>>41033897The point would be efficiency and speed. We can’t exactly rely on player reports all the time, since the only information we would have of possible cheaters would be what other people report, while many others fly under the radar. Having a monitor like this would mean that reports of players would not necessarily need to come from other people who witness their actions, but leaving the element of a human reviewer would hopefully minimize the number of false bans and/or allow those who were banned by a machine to get reprieves.
>>41033912We've already been trying the VAC experiment for the past 20 years. It doesn't work.
>>41033906>even simpler, modify casual servers to have 1 "reserved" slot that can go to 25 players. have him move around casual servers and ban the obvious bots. I don't know if there's way to make him joining invisible to other players but I'm sure Valve with full access to the source coude and their experience can figure it out.while this is 100% feasible from a technical standpoint, hell it could've even be done by just a normal plugin developer, i think there are too many casual servers for just 1 guy to constantly patrol them all, they'd have to hire multiple people in order to use this plan. i like the idea of him being able to join servers, but instead of rotating between servers constantly which would be an annoying job where you could easily lose focus and miss bots while you're trying to rotate through servers as quickly as possible, just have the players say where the bots are, the mod can join the server, see the spinbotters, and ban them on sight. simple. all you need to do is tell the playerbase that reporting is effective and they'd start using the feature. maybe make it so accounts have to be 1. premium, 2. not punished in any way and 3. a certain age in order to report, so that botters can't just flood the reports as well.>We can’t exactly rely on player reports all the time, since the only information we would have of possible cheaters would be what other people report, while many others fly under the radar.i really don't see what the problem is. either take demos from casual servers for the mod to review or just allow the mod to join and spectate, the "only information" doesn't have to be the text in the report.
>>41033910If Xbox console modders have the money to purchase new consoles every time theirs get banned, a $5 fee for setting up the game following a ban would be absolutely nothing. It also doesn’t matter much when options like family sharing exist, so unless Valve plans to punish everyone in a family sharing network because one member of it would have cheated, a $5 premium for the game could be worked around. Even if there were a limit on how many people could join a family sharing network, it would still mean that aimbotters and bot hosters would save in the long run.>>41033923To my knowledge, the issue with VAC is that it performs its checks on the client side rather than the server side, which could mean that aimbotters could use diagnostic information from the server instead of modifying the game itself.>>41033935The issue here is that there are too many servers for people to become mods in and there is no guarantee that a server will be moderated around the clock. Machines also don’t have to eat, sleep, or get paid.
>>41033954>If Xbox console modders have the money to purchase new consoles every time theirs get banned, a $5 fee for setting up the game following a ban would be absolutely nothing.
>>41033956https://youtu.be/ff2ATswWr5k?si=TLe6ZxQBJY3Ctd6c
>>41033968If you genuinely do not understand the difference between these, you are completely, unhelpably retarded, but I willy try.It's harder to get banned on those platforms, therefore you can play for a longer time. Individual people who are playing can afford to buy a new xbox for themselves if they have the income to support it. For some people, even if it's retarded, they're okay with getting banned and buying a new xbox to get around it. The bots are a totally different situation in every way. They aren't players. Nobody is getting enjoyment out of playing with the hacks and they think it's worth it to keep doing it. They are completely unmanned accounts in HUGE numbers being puppeted across casual. The number of accounts they get banned and then remake new to fill the servers again is immense. It would not be at all feasible for this to continue in the numbers it currently is if 1. the game costed money and 2. the bans came faster.
>>41033987Wow, uh, that's... exactly right. You're right on the money. Thank you, my kindred.
>>41034006Not to mention the xbox modders capable of going to the store and buying a new one are mostly americans doing it for fun who can justify using their income on something stupid like that while the bot hosters on tf2 are mostly chinese and russian, where the average income is way lower.
>>41033987>They are completely unmanned accounts in HUGE numbers being puppeted across casual.Then by this logic, servers could require users to solve Captcha prompts just to join them, but I’m unsure as to how this would work on console releases of the game.>It would not be at all feasible for this to continue in the numbers it currently is if 1. the game costed money and 2. the bans came faster.Like I said, family sharing could mean that burner accounts could be used to join family sharing networks and be able to play the game for free unless Valve plans to ban entire networks for the actions of particular members.
>>41034010But those who can afford the hardware to play the game are among their middle and upper classes anyway, since the ability to own a new gaming console is not the first thing on the minds of most people there. For all we know, these bots have the backings of Putin and Xi themselves and are essentially being used as glowies.
>>41034011Haven't you seen those captcha solving websites? They were like 1000 captchas for 5 bucks last time I visited and with the amount of pajeets flooding the internet recently I can see them getting cheaper.
>>41034011>Then by this logic, servers could require users to solve Captcha prompts just to join them, but I’m unsure as to how this would work on console releases of the game.you say this like there aren't already security features in place that are just completely failing. not to mention AI can be used to defeat captchas easily as fuck nowadays, or outsource captchas to indian children who work for pennies on the dollar. no matter which way you cut it, captchas would have less than a single percent of the financial impact on the cheaters that a $5 pricetag would, and what little money and resources they spend wouldn't go to valve, so valve has no incentive to implement it, unlike a pricetag bringing THEM income. a worse solution in multiple ways.also, why do you bring up console releases so much in this thread? tf2 on console is completely dead and has no hackers.>Like I said, family sharing could mean that burner accounts could be used to join family sharing networks and be able to play the game for free unless Valve plans to ban entire networks for the actions of particular members.family sharing is extremely limited in the number of accounts you can share to, so while it might spread out the cost of the game across multiple accounts, they'd still have to pay it, and VAC punishments do in fact spread across family-shared accounts if i remember correctly, as they should.>>41034014>But those who can afford the hardware to play the game are among their middle and upper classes anyway, since the ability to own a new gaming console is not the first thing on the minds of most people therewhat the fuck are you talking about? this game is from 2007 and just got an update massively increasing performance, you do not need to be upper or middle class to play this game. you also bring up consoles again for some inexplicable reason. the bots don't even run real tf2 clients. they literally don't even render the game. they have reduced the game as much as possible in order to run as many bots as possible on as little hardware as possible.>For all we know, these bots have the backings of Putin and Xi themselves and are essentially being used as glowies.i don't think you know what glowie means, and there's no way that the russian or chinese governments would put resources into what is ultimately not that widespread a game compared to other gaming behemoths they could be targeting.
>>41034018>>41034011You don't need those services at all. I posted this post by having my AI script solve the captcha for me instantly>>41034011>Like I said, family sharing could mean that burner accounts could be used to join family sharing networks and be able to play the game for free unless Valve plans to ban entire networks for the actions of particular members.You're misinformed. It is not possible to avoid bans by family sharing. If someone cheats on a family shared account the entire thing is banned forever.
>>41034018If this were truly a concern, this thread and /vg/tf2g/ would be flooded with posts in defense of unmanned TF2 bot players, likely written in the style of hastily crafted responses to ChatGPT prompts.
>>41034026no, because this website actually has moderators, regardless of how little competency they have.
oh, another thing about family sharing, only one account on the family network can launch the game at a time, and banned games can't be shared, so EACH running bot would still need an accompanying tf2 purchase regardless of what family sharing shenanigans they try to get away with.
>>41034023>not to mention AI can be used to defeat captchas easily as fuck nowadaysEven if this were the case, Captcha prompts are getting harder and harder to solve because they involve performing more complex tasks. There may eventually come a point where bots have the ability to solve Captcha prompts, but that would just be the point where they would already be too hard for them.>or outsource captchas to indian children who work for pennies on the dollar.If Valve has access to people’s credit card information, what would stop them from checking for this sort of thing?>you do not need to be upper or middle class to play this game.This would be true in a high-income country like the U.S., but only half to 2/3 of the global population even has access to the Internet, so in a country where most people don’t have this luxury, those who do are likely among their elite.
>>41034088anon it's possible today and nowhttps://github.com/drunohazarb/4chan-captcha-solver/tree/masterit takes like 10 mb of physical memory and has a 99% success rate
>>41034089Again, this will only mean the Captchas will become harder to solve in the future. Here’s a preview of what we may be in for.
What did Twilight Sparkle say when she found out Flash Sentry got a “happy ending” massage from Lotus and Aloe?Spa’s sappin’ mah Sentry!What did she do when her next boyfriend, Midas Spencer, got the same treatment?Spa’s sappin’ Midas Spencer!What did she say when she went in and couldn’t teleport out after she found out she was being held captive?Spa’s sappin’ mah teleporter!
>>41034093>he cant solve thislol!lmao!
>>41034093>sin(x) = 21
>>41034102anon.... please be trolling
>>41034101>>41034102The difficult part is that there is no solution to this, since this reduces to sin(x)/2, which varies between 1/2 and -1/2. Unless one regularly programs in APL, I doubt there is a key that has a symbol for this one.
>>41034107oh right, my brain just noticed that sin(x) = a number larger than 1 and wasn't thinking when i actually wrote the post
>>41034102Do you mean 84 and not 21
>>41034150yes dashbrain
>>41034093>anons have never heard of complex numberslol
>>41034093God I'm so dumb, I don't even know what sine cosine and tangent really are.
>>41034102>>41034110The range of the function sin x is bounded by the interval [-1, 1] for real values of x, but for complex values of x, the function sin x can be extended to any complex value, including 84.Problem is, you have to specify the domain of x because the equation sin x = 84 has a countably infinite number of solutions separated by 2*pi. In this case, the equation's solutions can be approximated by x ~ (1.57 +/- 3.74i) + 2*pi*k, where k is any integer.
>>41034245Don't feel bad Anon I have no fucking clue what those things mean.
>>41034245>>41034252In complex numbers, the trig functions (sin, cos, tan, cot, csc, csh) are defined using exponentials. For example, sin x = (1/2)(e^ix - e^-ix) and cos x = (1/2)(e^ix + e^-ix). The proof of these trig identities are pretty straightforward (just take the power series expansion of e^ix and e^-ix, and every other term cancels each other out, giving the Taylor series expansion of sin x and cos x), and this new definition lets you extend these previously real-value-only functions to the complex values. Basically, you take the sine function in the real numbers, and you "fill in the blanks" for the complex numbers by continuing its graph. In doing so, it turns out you can extend the original range of [-1,1] to a complex number by filling in the blanks.
>>41034275Also forgot to mention that this exponential definition of the trig functions lets you naturally define the hyperbolic trig functions (sinh, cosh, tanh, coth, csch, sech) algebraically instead of using the trig functions. For example, sinh x is usually defined as -i sin (ix), but you can instead write it as sinh x = (1/2)(e^x - e^-x), which is much simpler.
>>41034275>>41034279The
>>41034245>>41034252Did you guys seriously never take basic trigonometry? Granted I don't know half as much as the other guy who replied but I still remember the oionin iononi / co ca h h mnemotechnies
>>41034014This post actually made me laugh. Good one, threadshitter.
>>41034014Kek
>>41034252Nobody does, they're arbitrary made up bullshit>yes I'd like to buy sin of apples please!
>>41034535>sin of apples
>>41034535this is true, all braincel equivalent of copium to explain their schizoid gravity and heliocentric theories
>>41034382I know how its related and used with a triangle. But then they're used for waves and circles and spirals and I get lost.>tfw a 3000 year old Babylonian was better at math than you.
>>41034658>I know how its related and used with a triangle.> then they're used for waves and circles and spirals and I get lost.To put it short, this is where the triangle-circle connection comes from. The wave comes from simply "unrolling" this circle.
All I know is that I must charge
I will re-download tf2, I will rename myself : Schizo engineer who is afraid of clawssy, spray paint a clawssy chrysalis in the most random and out of the way in most map, build a sentry facing the clawssy and spam scaredy cat emote on the spray,. hopefully giving someone a worthy death cam screenshot.
>>41034749Spray Dashie
>>41034752Does she have a clawssy ? I don't think so, the comedy demands it. Unless you can provide one.
>>41034765Whats that
>>41033763bump...
>>41034861Glimmie
how are you people still on a jump map at 10est
>>41034995jump is fun
>>41034995because people aren't joiningthe map won't switch unless enough people join for a game
15 on mareductJOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN
>>41035018then maybe you should CHOOSE A MAP MORE THAN FIVE PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD WOULD ACTUALLY WANT TO PLAY ONF U C K P Y R O K I N E S I S
198/64 on marewaterIT'S STARTING
>>41035081or maybe you could join and sit in spectate or rtv, signifying your willingness to play>30 people refreshing mlp.tf>oh its still on jump guess i'm not joining
>>4103509419*I FUCKED IT UP LADS
>>41035097Would people be interested in an "rtv" counter on mlp.tf? Where if you see that the server is on a map you don't want to join on, so you can hit a button that tells the server and the website that you'd like to see the map changed?
30/64 on pl_marewater_b6
never goon to fillies
>>41035214unf fillies
32/64 on pl_camber
>>41035214Always goon (to fillies)
ALWAYS GOON TO TRIXIE MARECOCK
Dashie sex
>>41035573unf
Does anyone Dashie
what if we
>>41035631>anonstallion
>>41035103yes
cock?
What if we?
you fail to realize just how important this is
Twilight needs help!
>>41037050How's she gonna read with all the people yelling at her?
>>41037050Would she be the medic, though? Dr. Whooves and Discord would be better candidates.
>>41037152Would Discord be willing to put all of his faith in a gun that shoots the rocks from “Friday the 13th” or a crossbow that he can’t exactly aim very well?
>>41036918Morse code but it's in Twilight snoot boops
>>41037261That looks more like Glimmer to me.
>>41035573>mfw plapping dashie
>>41037461Where is the face
>>41037461this is what Dashie says while she's plapping me
Peronists destroyed Argentina
Which did it better: /tf2/ or /opg/?https://mlp.tf/https://baltimare-astro.pages.dev/
>>41037559well seeing as they were both made by 15
>>41037564Yeah but which one looks better
>>41037559Pinkie
>>41037559since when is 15 a popentroon
30/64 on pl_marewater_b6TF2 time lads
31/64 on cp_villa_b19
Amores Pasadosif anyone wants ithttps://files.catbox.moe/852853.zip
why does this keep happening to me I just cant get in
>>41037637You are entering the wrong password retard
>>4103763920 times and even copying and pasting?
>>41037640try joining from the website
>>41037640Are you copy pasting the file extension lol
>>41037559that page is nonfunctional on firefox. everything is hidden behind the big image
>>41037648Works for me on firefox
>>41037640Don't include the ".png"
>>4103763232/64
>>41037648try pasting this in console "connect 74.91.123.131:27015;password check filename"
>>41037663Thanks
>>4103763235/64
>>4103763237/64
37/64 on cp_snakewater_final1
>[SM] Vote successful. (Received 57% of 35 votes)>[SM] The answer to Next OP mare is: Princess Celestia.
>>4103768541/64
42/64 on pl_swiftmare_b1a
Taking some more "sfm" requests
42/64 on pl_rocketravine_b6
Is everyone updated to the latest version of the game and their respective gaming client software (e.g. Steam)?
What happened to the ctf maps? I tried nominating 2Fort and I think I only got pl maps.
>>4103782715 doesn't like them
>>41037827 (Me)It also appears as though we don’t have Turbine.
>>41037830I didn’t know the name was changed to marefort. Thanks to whoever it was who mentioned this.
>>41037832thank god
>>41037764Same vibe
>>41037844That it’s been renamed to Turbine Winter?
for a hattsy anonhttps://files.catbox.moe/62ishl.png
>>41037857Unf
>>41037857unf god i love my wife's marecock
>>41037718Yay!
>>41037617>15>Full-stack developmentbros...
>>41037921>it's over
So how many people still use the sandman-cleaver combo?
>>41037921>mfw turbine at 6am
>>41037529LOCO A PERON LO ELIGE EL PUEBLO
>>41037945its fun to pull out whenever i feel like playing scuntily
>>41037648Yeah I get the same problem on Firefox but it works perfectly on chrome.
>“I am a robot from the future! I have come to take Equestrian jobs!”
stinky rd for that one anon https://files.catbox.moe/cg2eip.png
>>41037857so fucking zased
>>41038116
>>41037857>>41038116unf
>>41038116unfa
>>41038116Dashie unf plap plap plap
>>41038116UNF SWEATY DASHIE PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>41037559they've banned 30 people in the month of april alone lmaomeanwhile tf2 with 2 banswhat information can we surmise from this discrepancy?
>>41038480Pinkie
>>41038480more people play on the popen server
>>41038511>popen server>people
>>41038480>LD is online on the second life server right now
https://youtu.be/P9Ch4aNZE4c
>>41038116>no marecocki sleep
>>41038116Sweaty Dashie Horsepussy based.
>>41038824I can do a marecock edit later
>>41039109wtf based
>>41039109edit her marecock to be in my mouth
>>41038480Looks like you can get banned from there for wearing a gryphon avatar because they have paws
>>41038480Maybe they have more cheaters than we do, but their server capacity is larger.
>>41037529sexy burra
>>41037764Could you remake this with Rarity?
>>41039193How does one even go about getting one? Are banning people for using skin changers that VAC doesn’t pick up?
>>41039270Damm right
Super minor detail for the mods, but on the mlp.tf stats page, moon runes' name seems to be causing a problem such that clicking his name or anyone below him on the list directs to the profile of the player below.
>>4103858115 X LD slash fic when?
>>41039784The new site is so much worse than the old one, the analytics were gutted, and only a "date picker" was added to make the faggots happy
>>41039811The analytics stopped working on the old site, that’s why it was rebuilt iirc
>>41038544So does this mean they’ve banned more accounts because they’re bot accounts?
triangle?
>>41040340No it just means they're subhumans c:
>>41033303My man the show is already using the musical format for a good amount of the episodes already
>>41040351Did they all use aimbots or something? I also saw something that suggested they used a skin changer to give themselves griffin avatars.
>>41040454Second life is a game for erp
>>41040464don't reply to the shitposter
>>41037718But which class would she be?
is everyone on there from /mlp/ or is it like half normaltards from second life who found it on a browser or something? is there even a password?
>>41040478No one cares, go back to you containment thread you shit stain.
>>41040478>is everyone on there from /mlp/no>normaltards from second life who found it on a browserno but there are non-/mlp/ pony fans>is there even a password?no but you are required to be a hooved quadruped in baltimare
>>41040473celestia would play trolldier and be really good at it effortlessly
>>41040478No idea, but 15 built their website for free so it can't be that bad.
OoOoOoOoOoOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo
>>41040927>>41040912Do not ooo, call player numbers.32/64 on marewater btw (full house!)
>>41040343DashieDashie Dashie
35/64 on pl_marewater_b6
>>41040343. DashieDashie Dashie
>>41041010Nice Dashforce
>>41040343>>>DashieDashie Dashie
donk sign
31/64 on pl_marecoast_b2
>>41037857How am I supposed to make futa mare happy without bending over?
>>41041054Squatting and opening your mouth.
u kick a hoof and say its just not fair
I’m curious: do any of the maps have Twilight, Celestia, or Luna plushies or was there a reason why they couldn’t be included? If it’s because it would pose an undue burden to have plushies of different shapes from the others, there could at least be a Twilight one somewhere.Perhaps if they don’t exist, we could have our own version of Turbine called Rainbine, but Rainbow Dash would be more prominently featured there. And yes, I did go for that reference.
>>41041482Perhaps the ceiling could be painted like Equestria’s sky and there could be a giant plushie of Dashie (or perhaps even Rainbine) in the center. The Twilight plushie could just be placed like any other unless we want to have a map about her. I would say we could have 2Light instead of 2Fort, but Marefort may have this taken care of.
>>41041580>thrash metal starts playing
>>41041580Dashie what are you doing with your hoof
>>41041584she's cleaning the house
>>41041482A map that takes place on a lunar colony would be a good place to have a Luna plushie somewhere within.
>>41030807I know this may sound nitpicky, but is the Luna calendar from one of the maps we played last night from a year following the S1 premiere? The Celestia calendar is from 1968, aka a time when Luna was still banished and ponies may not have even known she exists.
>>41038116>>41038824marecock edit for the anons who like brats in the morninghttps://files.catbox.moe/fglpy7.png
If you think TF2 has it bad remember it could always be worsehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzd7W2Mt1jU
>>41041970unf!
>>41042046>it could be worse because Counterstrike is experiencing the exact same problem but less bad?
>>41040478>>41040601yes it can be that bad, everyone from that second life server is a fucking headcase who tries to e-date everyone else on the sim and has a fucking nuclear meltdown like a sorority girl when they inevitably break it off because they both aren't actually cute ponies
>>41041970
>>41042167>less badnot at all, cs2 has many more cheaters because it had additional incentives to cheat. russians cheating to boost account ranks to then sell the account is common. having a ranked mode at all is obviously an incentive to cheat.
>>41042202I can say as someone who plays CS2 the prevalence of hacking and cheating is maybe 1 out of every 5 games at most, while in tf2 casual it is quite literally every match, and the only deciding factor If I'm allowed to play is if they get kicked.>"Oh but just play on community se-"why don't counterstrike players just do that, too?
>>41042207maybe your rank just isn't high enough or you're not spotting the subtle wallhackers
>>41042207>why don't counterstrike players just do that, too?This isn't 1.6 anymore boomer, you play soulless matchmaking with randoms or you don't play at all.
>>41042182
>>41041970>sheathimagine the musk
>>41040932Mares Oooooo at full horse.
Dashe
>>41031841Could any anons help me with some sunset shimmer based names for my set?
>>41042226But it's not like there isn't a server browser, this is a self imposed community problem instead of a real issue with the game. Counterstrike players have elobrain so bad that they literally cannot play the game unless their number goes up or down.
>>41042877Shimmie
>>41042175Does that mean some of us are e-dating someone there right now?
>>41042175>he isn't a cute pony
>>41042933How would a pony even hold a game controller?
>>41042989
I'm curious, how would you define a "good" Heavy player? We had a discussion about this in the server a couple nights ago. Is it someone who can play Heavy and can frag out and go on long killstreaks with a Medic buddy (and protect their pocket Medic too), or is it someone who can play Heavy and support his team well even if their team doesn't have a Medic?
>>41042989this is how ponies play tf2
>>41043052This is how I play TF2 with Dashie
>>41043041You’re assuming that medic buddies will always be a thing. Certain people may just not want to be medics and they may be focused on healing other people when they do.FSoaS has said that the Brass Beast pairs well with the shotguns because the heavy may need to still do close-range combat when he moves around, but I also think that having a combo of the Brass Beast, Sandvich, and GRU could work as well, since the GRU would get one to where one wants to go faster and the Sandvich would offset the health penalty.
>>41043104>tftuber>knowing anything about tf2 gameplay
>>41043104>MUH YOUTUBERLet me guess, he cries about scorch shot being OP as well.
>>41043194NTA but the Scorch Shot is OP
Better yet, who is a good heavy player on the server? There's been a few and it'd be good to know their input on the matter. Overall I think it'd be nice to see what works and doesn't from their perspective.
>>41043238Plain keeps raping me when he plays Heavy :(
>>41043238Plain keeps raping me when he plays Heavy :)
>>41043041heavy is mostly just gamesense on when to hang back/reposition and when to go in, as long as you get past the skill floor of tracking that isn't hard to passif you have a good awareness of what's going on around you then you can farm, if you don't then you'll commit at bad times and heavy doesn't have an easy time getting out of a losing fight
Alright anons, help me name my beloved strange medigun. Dubs decides.
>>41043305princess luna
>>41043305Doctor Whooves' Sonic Healbeam
>>41043305Dashie
>>41043041>how would you define a "good" Heavy player?>Is it [someone who is decent at tf2] or [someone who is objectively better at tf2]gee I dunno
>>41043104>FSoaSthis guy is a total sperg. listen to him when he's not reading a script and ask if you want to listen to what his opinions arehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSO_tCYQ2bI
>>41043305Nurse Redheart's daily dose
>>41043305I will uber the enemy spy
>>41043305Redheart's mare flare
>>41043373Pinkie
>>41043399
>>41043399BASED!
>>41043399Dubs get! I am true to my word. And the description?Dubs decides again
>>41043373
>>41043415Dashie
>>41043415Dashie plap
>>41043415Dashie plap plap
>>41043418>>41043420>>41043422Well, at least it's not a slur.It's done. Thank you Anons.
>>41043300This, although I should add that positioning is just as important.
>>41043435Doc likes this
>>41043185What do you mean? He’s the one who introduced me to the BASE Jumper-Scottish Resistance and Carbine-Bushwacka combos.>>41043194He’s not the only one?
>>41043238Plain is the best Heavy in the server and it's not even close
29/64 on pl_marewater_b6
29/64 on pl_mareward_b1
Pretty sure at least 60% of these were due to crits.
https://files.catbox.moe/vfb6kk.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/mpi99l.mp4
>>41043808if you think you're soooo cute washing machine (you're not) then start streaming as a vtuber
>>41043808also does anyone know if 20-30mb is good for a ~10 second 1080p obs replayi cant seem to figure out how to configure bitrate and i had to compress these to get to <8mb
>>41043814i just thought they were funny
>>41043808fucking lmao
>>41043814plap
32/64 on koth_ponut_b2a
If we are micspamming Beatles songs, why not “Dig a Pony”?
>>41043814mlptf2 streamers will be the next big thing we need a big group of streamers
>>4104384936/64
>Marebowl wins vote>Janny: HAHA NOPE YOU'RE GOING TO PLR_PIPELINEYou know if you hate Dustbowl so much no matter its permutation you can just remove the maps entirely from the server so they can't even be voted on.
33/64 on plr_pipeline
>>41043885We could vote for pl_goldrush
26/64 on cp_marebowl_pro_b2
i think dashie
>>41043955Is there a way to fix the directions where the plushies’ eyes point? It could be a simple as adding a priority queue.
Is anyone else having this missing map issue?
>>41043993map has been rtv'd
>>41043997Well, it looks like everyone left anyway.
>>41044003
>>41044005
>>41044006
>>41044008
>>41044010
I got back on and I noticed the Soda Popper’s Hype meter went up and down without me even shooting anyone and it didn’t even work after it maxed out. I’m sorry, but it looks like the server is glitched in some way.
>>41044018that's the revert plugin
>>41044008Top kekSometimes I feel bad for the medics I consistently run down
>>41044019So how do we make the Hype meter work again? Also, I’m pretty sure I fulfilled the objective for the achievement of Side Retired before, but I just got it for the first time tonight. This isn’t a problem with this server, but I’m pretty sure I’ve killed the Horseless Headless Horsemann on another server and was never awarded the Haunted Metal Scrap, so maybe the achievement system is just bugged.
>>41044029If you want it to work like normal use the !reverts command and disable the revert. The plugin sets it to the old soda popper which gains hype via movement and gives crits when full automatically
>>41044034OK, but how come I only got that achievement tonight and I don’t have the Haunted Metal Scrap? Is there something wrong with the achievement system?
>>41044035No idea about the achievement but the metal scrap requires you to get a melee kill specifically
>>41043957Not possible, that's how prop_dynamic is hardcoded to work on models with eyes, attempting to follow the nearest player, but its yank as hell. Only way was to make them generic_actor NPCs (not a tf2 entity, a hl2 one that just happens to work in tf2), but they have the framerate issue halloween bosses have and sometimes crashes games for some peopleAlso,>plushiesThese are real mares and if they were solid they would bleed when hit (or crash your game when hit with a rocket).
>>41044123>that's how prop_dynamic is hardcoded to work on models with eyesNot true, the eyes are broken on TF2 merc as well. All the mercs would always arbitrarily stare at one specific direction throughout the game.iirc the mares do look at you correctly on mareduct.
>>41043999>>41043993do you not know how to take a screenshot
>>41044168My Steam Controller doesn’t have a “Print Screen” key, sorry.
>>41037962What do you mean? The Wrapper Assassin-cleaver combo seems to work better. It would give the scout two long-range weapons that actually deal damage and he could just use his primary when he’s in melee range anyway.
>>41044041Well, it seems as though many achievements are redundant and ask us to do the same task multiple times. Don’t The Melbourne Supremacy and Australian Rules basically ask us to do the exact same thing, for example? But for some reason, I didn’t get both at the same time and I had to dominate an enemy sniper a second time to get the achievement I missed.
>>41044384We should try this map again on 64 bit TF2, maybe it'll fix the server crashing issue
>>41044385So you’re telling me the game hasn’t been updated on the server yet? I guess this would explain a lot more than just that.
>>41044396???
>>41044396bait
>>41044385The entity limit hasn't been touched and the server is 32-bit.
>>41044430The server is not 32 bit, what makes you think that lol
>>41044431The plugins wouldn't work on 64-bit server.
>>41044432Oh I misunderstood what you meant, nvm I'm retarded
>>41044432Which plugins? If possible, I’d prefer to not have to worry about memory leaks, which actually happened to me just before the update.
>>41044385there is no crashing issue, the map worked perfectly fine when we tried it>>41044384thanks wapa...
>>41044432Is anyone updating said plugins to work on 64 bit servers.
Is there any particular reason why everyone says Fluttershy would be the medic? She doesn’t have the same sort of personality he does, so Discord or Dr. Whooves would probably fit the role better.
>>41045259is there any particular reason why you wouldn't suck a dick?
>>41044569It insta crashes when there's enough players on the server when we play the map.
>>41044432I don’t know which plugins you’re referring to, but I think testers should perhaps start with the barebones game and see which plugins do and don’t work. It’s more important to have a functioning game than it is to have plugins that are superficial to the game’s core functionality.
>>41045259I feel like I have seen you post this once or twice before, so I am going to explain my thoughts behind pony-merc association.It is a statement on the kind of player the ponies are, rather than which pony most accurately resembles which merc as a character. She would love to be supportive and help her friends as she does in the show, she is kind and sweet and takes care of animals. She is also a soft girl (like all medic mains).When people say Twilight would be sniper it isn't because she is a piss wielding aussie (unf) she is just smart and calculated and would be good at finding picks. I also think she would have good aim because she is all about accuracy and is a perfectionist. There is some overlap, Rainbow Dash and Scout being the obvious example. Both are full of themselves (in a charming way) and are all about speed (or at least scout is the fastest base speed merc, I don't know if he is obsessed with speed like a Dashie/Sonic esque character) There's also Spy and Rarity where I feel it is a lot of both, Rara and spy both love fashion and have the whole uptight posh-yness to them, typical spy montages are very flashy and all about showing off which I feel like Rarity embodies, and Rarities skill with a needle is like a knife? idk reaching on that last point but you get the idea. Maybe I am way off the mark but I feel like that makes sense
>>41045523I agree on Rainbow Dash being the scout, Pinkie Pie being the pyro, Berry Punch being the demo, Applejack being the engineer, and Rarity being the spy, but these associations were made by the fandom (and by me) because of personality and physical similarities.
>>41045523>She would love to be supportive and help her friends as she does in the show, she is kind and sweet and takes care of animals.But she probably wouldn’t like shooting people with crossbows or performing area denial with a gun that shoots syringes.
>>41045551>she probably wouldn’t like shooting people with crossbowsnone of the ponies would like shooting, maiming and killing people/ponies, you've gotta use your imagination a little bit...
>>41045346we played it some months ago and it went without a hitch
>>41045575>none of the ponies would like shooting, maiming and killing people/poniesYou’re implying that the MLP-verse isn’t set in Pinkie Pie’s wicked imagination and one of the alternate timelines from the S5 finale isn’t the reality of the land. Perhaps Pinkie’s party cannon is really a children’s toy called Spaceballs: the Flamethrower and whatever desserts that Applejack contributes to her “parties” are machines that she’s really trying to keep Rarity from sapping.
>>41045454Weapon revert, deathrun, and saxton hale plugins rely on TF2items. TF2items hasn't been updated to support 64 bit.
>>41045751Is it possible that we can play without those until someone fixes them? And if we are this adamant about using weapon reverts, FSoaS’s Bad Weapon Rehab servers seem to still be up and running, so perhaps we should ask them what they are doing. Though I don’t think it is necessarily this important, especially if most other servers don’t have this.Meanwhile, we can try playing tonight and for the next few nights without the plugins and see where this gets us. Again, it isn’t like most other servers have these enabled anyway,
>>41045548>physical similarities ponies are ponies and all relatively the same shape/size whereas mercs are not the same shape or size nor are they ponies, but yeah personality, which was stated in the post you responded to
>>41045843Dashie think
>Sleezus whenever you dominate him in-game but you have a questionable nationality
>>41046071>Sleezus whenever you dominate him in-game
>>41046080also Sleezus whenever you taunt after killing him
>>41046082Funny how every time he kills me he taunts but when I taunt him even once he gets all pissy lel
>>41046071Lmao, too real
>>41046084he gets really pissy if you taunt him, it's funny
>>41046108Yeah and then he goes into DMs and rages at you if you do that kekAnd when people call him out on it he insists he never does it
I will punish sleez
bros, how do I use the stickybomb launcher
>>41046190M1 + M2
>>41046190you explode until you don't
>>41046071When he was gagged in the server I genuinely enjoyed playing more, even on Anon Fridays
>>41046263Me too :(
>>41046263I 100% agree
>>41046121I thought I was the only one to get that
>>41046298Nah he's done it to like 10 people now
>>41046298>>41046121he's done it to me too. he's unnecessarily toxic and makes every night less fun when he is on.
>>41046263I haven't seen Sleez say anything toxic in chat since he was ungagged.
>>41046307not in what he says in chat all though the complaining and whining he does do is annoying. he is toxic with his gameplay
>>41046307That's because he adds people on Steam and spews his toxicity in DMs instead of public chat now because he doesn't want to get banned
>>41046307He was trying to start beef with ghost again just yesterday kek
>>41046316how retarded are you
>>41046320put your name back on sleezus
>>41046320ok sleez
>>41046322>>41046326i'm not him, but you probably hate the faggot too much to accept that
>>41046320good one sleez
>>41046330and you love him enough to give this much of a shit or you are him, either way you're trash
>>41046263Same
>>41046336i suddenly "love" someone when i point out that one of the reasons you guys are witchhunting him is a complete fucking fallacy? lmfao, it sounds like you're just too sensitive to accept that someone else could like the person who's mean to you
>>41046345ok sleez
>>41046345>witchhuntingHe was muted for 3 months for being a toxic piece of shit to people
>>41046345>dickriding this hardNigga you gay
>>41046345we are not witch hunting, allot of us are just fed up with his shit
>>41046351>>41046353targeting and complaining about someone in the thread like this and saying you want him to be punished again despite the fact he hasn't reoffended in the server is absolutely witchhunting
>>41046357>reoffended in the serverSo it's better that he's personally messaging people through DMs and behaving the exact same way as before and making it personal this time?
>>41046357can you read? when some rando dms 15 bitching and moaning, they get banned, but when sleezus does it to other users and whines about witchunting at most he gets is fags like you defending him
>>41046357A regular was banned for sending nefarious DMs before sleezus even started playing hereSomeone should screenshot his DM bullshit and send it to 15 lol. Hit him with another 3 monther
>>41046362>when some rando dms 15 bitching and moaning, they get banneddid this actually happen?also what's to stop people from just blocking sleezus if they don't like what he's saying to them in dm? punishing sleezus in the server will not take away his ability to do the thing you're complaining about anyway.
>>41046362>when some rando dms 15 bitching and moaning, they get bannednot really, i've bitched and moaned plenty to 15 in the past. in fact, i've sent him paragraphs on end complaining about things he's done in the server. bitching and moaning at 15 when you've committed a smaller offense is just likely to increase your punishment because you're acting like a child. complaining isn't against the rules, believe it or not.
>>41046369>A regular was banned for sending nefarious DMs before sleezus even started playing hereNTA but who? I've been here since the start (although with substantial gaps in my activity) and idk who you're talking about
>>41046373it deters from people actually wanting to continue playing on this server. if you just so happen to kill him more than 2 times in a row he just malds and seethes at you for the rest of the match, and if you had the lapse in judgement in adding him because he seemed nice at first, you get bitched at in dm's. It's distasteful to essentially have someone that people put on a "block that guy he sucks" as a regular.
if sleezus ever dmed me anything mean or nasty i would dm him back "faggot" but lucky for him he has never crossed me
>>41046362The people I dm'd that are suddenly throwing a fit were people I dm'd during my mute when I could not talk in server, and the people I dm'd were people who were picking on me while I was muted knowing I couldn't respond in server. Other than that the only ones I can think of that arent just me dming my friends are one time when I apologized to Juke because I was complaining about heavy but I think he is cool and I like playing with him so I said sorry and that.
27/64 on pl_marewater_b6
>>41046394>people who were picking on meThat's not even remotely true, you went out your way to DM me some nasty things when all I did was taunt you in game after you did it first
>>41046394I never talked to you and you dm'd me
>>41046394you literally told mooof to kill himself
>>41046394You had so many drunk nights and pathetic apology follow up days how do you even know what you do
>>41046399Don't know who you are but Dm me then. Also I guarantee I was muted and and people were picking on me one day, so I dm'd a few. Maybe I was wrong, like I said was quite a while ago at this point so don't know who you are but I can really only think of two people I dm'd so I have an idea
>>41045646This Anon ate some of Pinkie's rye kernels.
>>41046388It was son goku i believe. Albeit, his DMs were sent to 15 and not other players, and there was some other stuff about him defending a cheater or something. The whole thing was just confusing and all we got out of it was an ephemeral shitposter in the thread
WHO CARESJOIN THE SERVER NOW FAGGOTSITS TF2 TIME
>>41046413sorry but I am erping in second life right now
>>41046412OHHHH lel but you can't say he was JUST banned for sending DMs, his entire situation was on another level entirely from what sleezus is doing now I wouldn't really compare them
>>41046417T. 15
>>41046394You've been a cunt to so many people on the server. the fact that you still try to defend yourself is inane
>>41046407>so manyHasn't he done this, like, twice?
>>41046424No??? More like 20+ times?How new are you, exactly?
>>41046419Fair enough. It just puts a bad taste in my mouth when people are toxic to one another
>>41046425There is no fucking way he's posted 20 apologies in this thread
>>41046422agreed
>>41046427Why are you talking about the thread when we're talking about the half-assed apologies he makes the day after in the server
>>41046433oh lol. I have him blocked I don't see his messages ingame
33/64 on koth_proot_b6c-alt2
>>41046447same
thanks for helping me with achievements frens
When did Marefort and Turbine Winter get deleted?
>>41046746?
>>41046776I tried nominating them and I was told they weren’t there.
>>41046782It's in Death Run mode lol
>>41046785I don’t see why this means I can’t nominate these specific maps.
>>41046788Are you retarded?
>>41046789No.
>>41046788when a gamemode switches, the maplist also switches with it
>>41046794It doesn’t mean that they could have programmed it where a specific map implies a switch to a specific game mode, if any.
nano? more like sexo bby
>“Are you a real spy?”>“Have you ever caught a good guy, like a real superhero?”>“Have you ever tried a disguise?”>“Alright, I can see that I will have to teach you how to be spies!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2stmQfv93oQThoughts?
>>41047564this video is made by a weirdo, would not trust anything he spews
>>41047564>a handful of individuals are operating massive botnets to scrape marginal value from drops in a 16 year-old gameI've said it before and I'll say it again, letting third-worlders have internet access was a mistake
>>41047564This guy's going nuts trying to be scary and harp on emotional talking points. Plenty of people talk about the botting problem and how TF2 is stagnant, he must just be around some bad communities that drank the xitter kool-aid of just being positive about anything that isn't someone drawing the wrong ship/porn.He should've spent a lot more time talking about HOW Valve can combat bots (Some ideas that together would probably cut the problem in half or more: Basic heuristic analysis to flag cheating/botting in matches for report, a main menu CAPTCHA before playing to cut down on garbage bots, and playing needed to get giftapult drops to make main menu idling not work).
>>41047585>weirdo>doctorate in geological surveying (maths)>catholic>doesn't like troons and shitty hatsliterally the most based tf2 youtuber>>41047676the main point of the video was proving that the tf2 player base hasn't been growing since 2017 and that all the steam player count statistics the media outlets use when reporting on tf2 are horrendously inaccurate
>>41047564I watched it and his claims are logical but don't hold up to scrutiny.If TF2's playerbase really is 80-90% idling bots, how in the hell are they making profit with all the barriers to entry in place and why the hell aren't they just mining cryptocurrency if they have access to this computing power? Each new steam account costs $5 before Valve allows it to trade and given the current metal prices that would take years of a bot operating without a ban before it even begins to profit, other costs such as electricity nonwithstanding. Furthermore, taking money OUT of the steam's closed ecosystem isn't free. That metal and those keys have to be converted to real money somehow and you can bet you're losing at least 40-50% of your total value on Valve's cuts and 3rd party services that liquidate your metal. When you take all this into account it sounds complete lunacy that so many tf2 players were idle bots. It just isn't plausible.Spikes in bot activity during update time itself are more plausible because newly released cases tend to be worth more than 1 cent, but claiming that TF2' player count is 80% bots all year round? Absolutely not.It also makes no sense that TF2's videos would get so much support and views on youtube if the real daily playerbase was in the 20k range. That would mean Left 4 Dead 2 has 50% more daily players than TF2 and that's just hilarious to consider given how nonexistent L4D is currently in the meme sphere and online communities in general.The discrepancy in teamwork.tf and steam numbers can simply be handwaved away by saying it's just how it is because we don't have other games to compare it to. Who's to say different games don't also have big discrepancies in actual playing players and the number steam reports?Overall this video made me sad because it's bound to have negative consequences in the community, so good job Zesty you stupid thoughtless nigger.
>>41047862The main way bots make money is money laundering. TF2's item economy is perfect for turning stolen credit cards and other illicit sources into real cash. That's why there are websites selling keys at massive discounts when the only source of keys is Valve at a high cost.
>>41047862>his claims don't hold up to logical scrutinyRegarding the 80-90% idling bots, it makes complete sense to me that there is only 20k players on a given day considering the fact that if you try to play casual its almost impossible to actually find a full game, not to mention that a good 50% of the community server tab is empty. As for the new steam account costing 5$, there was a post on /vg/ talking about this, but these are hacked/hijacked accounts that were gained through Phishing, Brute Force or were Abandoned. Another thing is that he even mentions in the video itself that you need extremely extremely tiny amounts of computing power for these bots because they're running modified versions that run TF2 in Text mode, so you can theoretically run an extremely large number per computer (likely in excess of 10,000). As for the "this isnt that profitable" part, the people doing this are largely from South America and Russia, where the USD is worth exponentially more, Not to mention the fact that they aren't actually just dumping these onto the steam market exclusively. If you watched Zesty Jesus's video, you would see that many of the bots trade them to sellers that likely buy them for a lump sum, and then resell them for much more in terms of TF2 items (usually 1-3 refined per crate.) on backpact.tfAs for discrepancies, I can imagine there probably is more players that play the game, but they're not all online at the same time.Oh, and as for the reason why Left 4 Dead 2 might have more players without having an impact on the "meme space" like tf2 has is because tf2's fanbase on places like Youtube, Reddit and Twitter don't actually play the fucking game, and that is provable given the fact that many of them are underaged and found out about the game through things like Lazypurple and Uncle Dane
>>41047862Here it is for argument's sake. TF2 has 3x the youtube activity of L4D but the video tries to allege it has less players than it. L4D for sure has no bots at all as the game has no items at all, so how does this work?>>41047878Anon there's a million better ways to money launder stolen credit cards than a 16 year old game.
>>41047886>>41047884
>>41047884>>41047862Another thing to say about profitability in regards to this is that its passive income in a shithole thirdworld country, the bot hosts for this are probably making more than a doctor makes in their country
>>41047884>Regarding the 80-90% idling bots, it makes complete sense to me that there is only 20k players on a given day considering the fact that if you try to play casual its almost impossible to actually find a full game,That can be explained by the TF2 matchmaking system just being garbage. Ever wonder why casual games empty out after the round ends and the map changes? You play for 10 minutes and not a single new player joins, then suddenly 15 people are connected to the server at once. It's very clear the matchmaking system is complete ass and isn't working efficiently.>not to mention that a good 50% of the community server tab is emptyThis is the case for every game with community servers ever made. Not every server can have players in it.>you can theoretically run an extremely large number per computer (likely in excess of 10,000). steam doesn't allow this many connections, at minimum they would need to run a new VM instance for every account. 10,000 accounts on one machine is ludicrous.idk it just sounds stupid. why doesn't dota 2 or cs have hundreds of thousands of bots if it's so profitable?
>>41047917Because Counterstrike and Dota 2 are maintained consistently, again if you watched Zesty's video you would have heard the reason for this.Uncle Dane when he visited valve was informed by the TF team that they had personally banned over 150,000 idle bots (which we have no reason to not believe considering Dane accidentally leaked Jungle Inferno in this exact same video) meaning when they actually give a fuck they have the means to handle this.
>>41047917yeah the quickplay system worked much better than the casual one. finding games and keeping them full was no issue back then
>>41047927https://youtu.be/0P8Ubkn_a6Y?si=PqU2S-EZ1LmMHgoK&t=456Timestamp of the TF team admitting that they had to ban at minimum 200k bot accounts>"Jill told us about a specific instance very reasonally where he had to personally ban over 200,000 bot accounts, We were all very impressed by this until he told us that the Troublemakers simply made 200,000 more accounts a few days later"
>>41047945so some third worlders paid 1 million dollars to recreate their idle bots that valve immediately noticed again?
I will do the next border patrol
>>41047862Hard disagree, the arguments here absolutely pass the sniff test. The primary assertion, that TF2's "playerbase" is 70-80% bots, is well supported by the provided evidence and checks out with my own experience. Casual mode isn't heaving like you would expect it to be with the purported tens of thousands of players, and there are nowhere near enough populated community servers to make up the difference. Something must be inflating the playercount dramatically, and the provided solution of farming bots fits the bill elegantly.The motive is pretty easy to parse, too - the bothosters farm crate and item drops to convert into income, taking advantage of cheap electricity and the weakness of their local currency against the dollar and euro that most TF2 players use (also, small-scale money laundering, like >>41047878 suggested). At the scale of multiple thousands of bots, the trade delay for free accounts hardly matters.
>>41047564His thesis is definitely correct yet he argues with easily refuted points for basically the entire video. His data is filled with bias in the way it's presented, to the point I literally could not point out everything wrong in the video within the character limit. I watched the entirety of it yesterday while talking to a friend about my opinion's on it, I genuinely paused about every 2 minutes to write a lengthy explanation of why the point he was making at the time was flawed or even just straight up wrong in some cases. I genuinely didn't know you could be this incorrect while arguing for something which is true.
>>41047927Dashie
>>41048155His whole thing is to just whine at length because he thinks the problem is people aren't whining at Valve hard enough.The real problem is people aren't supporting Valve working on the game with good ideas and showing that they'd be cool with them.
>>41048155Oh mister smartypants, please enlighten us
>>41047884>Oh, and as for the reason why Left 4 Dead 2 might have more players without having an impact on the "meme space" like tf2 has is because tf2's fanbase on places like Youtube, Reddit and Twitter don't actually play the fucking gamethat's a bold statement. "the game is super popular but nobody plays it" doesn't sound very believable.
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