Welcome to Chatbot AI General #139, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipExpression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTApp that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ MiscellaneousScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>42488257**News:**- Deepseek V3.1 released: https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312- OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5- Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5- Claude Opus 4.1 released: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>42488259
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
>>42503427>Robotic pony pussyUnf.
Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
Bots corner:The 7th Element: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/The%207th%20Element.pngThe Group Chat: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=AutistAnon/The%20Group%20Chat.pngArts corner: Godfather art >>42499686 Anon’s estrus adventures >>42488676, >>42492920 GPT-pony https://garyc.me/sketch/gallery.php#7482501, https://garyc.me/sketch/gallery.php#7482490Screenshots corner: Anon’s estrus adventures >>42488647, >>42492917 Subtle with symbolism >>42488662 LEWD >>42490874 Great gemwork >>42491370 Chen family >>42492200
Screenshots corner 2: The 7th element >>42491977, >>42492119 Ozone >>42492367 Tasting like purple >>42493595 Luna likes Anon >>42495205 For the drunk anons >>42495754 Terry Pratchett >>42496038 Sad little apples >>42498824, >>42498861
Screenshots corner 3: Little pipe >>42499057 The Cloud That Wanted to Snuggle >>42499378 Dodging the question >>42500409 Chrissy voice >>42501842 No sparkles >>42502560 The group chat >>42494643, >>42495745, >>42501931
Screenshots corner 4: Bait & switch >>42502413, >>42502134, >>42502118
VN Anchor:Last releases:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/Anons mods (Dashie mod and Nightmare AU):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersVN logs: Going crazy >>42501594 Another world >>42500988 For you >>42500660 Read your mail >>42500573 Custom start >>42492693 Refined taste >>42491800 Another alicorn >>42489188 Lily Valley >>42488578
These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernTutorial and video:aicharactercards.com/guides/sillytavern-installation-instructions/Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Gemini, but you can try Deepseek, K2 etc. for free.rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
Lovemaking with AI mares!
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>>42503439So nice to see the bots corner alive
>>42503475Kek
Op6 is an artistGOD proxy now. Drawlets need not apply.
>>42503439Here are the gpt pony sketches
>>42503494an another one while I was waiting for the bread
NTA, but reposting some old GPT-pony logs since it seems appropriate.
>>42503505And this one.>>42503500Cute as fuck.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106386862/#106394450
Thanks for the OP links, a lot of them are really helpful. Quoting from https://rentry.org/onrms#gotchas>you can (and shall) play with various words to trigger specific responses>say, you want a more descriptive smell. your first word of choice might be "detailed", which might be a solid pick, but why not look for a smell-specific adjective like redolent? use thesaurus to find words with precise and impactful meaning>however, beware unintended connotations outside of your intention. some words may cause unforeseen reactions:> "simple language" may proc bot saying "dude" and "kinda"> "engaging dialogue" may make bot converse for you> "explicit content" may be read as "explicit instructions" causing long sentencesHas anyone found any more words that can change responses? I've used ones like "Be creative!" and such, but haven't seen a notable consistent change in responses.
Trolling with gpt's positive bias, someone tried to shove a sword up therehttps://garyc.me/sketch/gallery.php#7482512>>42503505>>42503508old logs are okay, new is better
>>42503492I need to poniponi harder
>>42503590You lied, this isn't bale level.
>>42503590if it counts for anything, I like her
>>42503590I hate her... but the art is good.
>>42503590An appalling lack of taste, apparently.I like it. Good effort, Anon!
I have a question. I was digging around to try and find a local model since I've been running into the ole 429 from openrouter again and again and again. I was going through posts and someone linked this. Is this real? and what models would I have access to/want to use? Would this be good for the VN? I apologize if this comes off as naive or retarded, but I really am a boomer trying to navigate this stuff, and man... I just want to hug pons. I'd easily pay 10$ a month if I don't have to deal with the stupid error messages and stuff.
I can't fucking draw... is it over for me, bros?
>>42503925https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42053710/#42055360
>>42503936My fimfiction account is only two years old... is it over for me, bros?
>>42503891It's https://chutes.ai, right? If so, yeah, it's both real and legit. In fact, if you were using the DeepSeek model for "free" on OpenRouter, they were the provider. To give a quick rundown: >Chute was initially totally free, for everyone. >They were also a provider for OpenRouter, free. >They bled money, so they decided to have a $5 one-time payment before you could access the models on their website. >They still bled money, so they switched to the subscription you posted. The problem was that they were still a free provider for OpenRouter, which meant you could pay $10 only once and have 1000 free requests a day with their models, a better offer than their current subscriptions. So they decided to heavily restrict the number of requests they allow at the same time if they come from OR. That's the error 429 you get, if too many users try at the same time, you can be dismissed. That doesn't happen if you subscribe to them directly, of course. So yeah, they are legit, and this will work if you want an easy solution without proxy bullshit or similar, and if you like DeepSeek, Kimi, etc. The VN may need a quick update to be compatible with them, but if you decide to use them, just post about it here and I'll look into making it work. It shouldn't be a big problem.
how long does the token last? Anyone know?
>>42503925>Your gatekeepers
>>42504011Kek
I really like the art on the opus6 page
I hate proxy discussion so much, every single chatbot thread across multiple boards is retards spamming about proxies and baitingI other news I find that deepseek 3.1 is not specifically worse at roleplay, but you need to instruct it better with a proper preset
Oo
>>42504094is it going to get better?
>>42504096Than two mares making an "O" face? I don't know.
>>42503936Is it alright if I censor the name and the pic while only shows the join date? My fimfiction is quite shitty back then.
>>42504115The guy as an email. Ask him directly.
>>42504120he didn't respond to my horse image :(
What is the pass for Opus
>>42504214Fuck off.
>>42504217Keep seething that people want to use the proxy and don't have to be randomly be replied to in hope for a pass if they even get replied to
>>42504220He doesn't sound like the one seething rn.
>>42504220Just be an oldfag of the thread and have the ability to prove it (which you do, if you are), or contribute to it in a meaningful way that is not visibly half-assed just to get access.Simple, really.
>>42504088What preset do you use? I do find it inferior to 0528 overall.
is there any way to see swipes for previous (not current latest) messages on ST?be it an extension or something in the settings.
>>42504256Natively I believe you can make a fork starting that message and it should have the swipes, though I have not tested it.
>>42504262yeah i know that. and this is my solution for now, but just a bit annoying to make forks each time i want to peek into a swipes of an older message.
>>42504245>>42504227The only people with the pass are in the trooncord with all the proxies troons
Usual /g/ baits.Just ignore>>42504214>>>/g/106399973>>42504220>>>/g/106400185
>>42504267my horsewife laughs at you.
>>42504270Forgot the post above you as well.
>>42504270>>42504274>Anything i don't like is baitNo wonder you fags are kicked into your own board
>>42504275>tourists mad
>you fagslol, locusts can't keep up an act more than 5 secondskys trash>>42504252I use AviQ1F, but I've modified multiple parts of it over the months to add more modular toggles for some things I used to put in the authors note. I find that you can get quite drastically different responses by simply telling deepseek what you want to change in an OOC command and then removing that from the history so it doesn't pollute the contextYou need to do this and keep pruning old responses so it doesn't get locked into a loop of isms
Pretty sure Rarity was going for Shining.
>>42503500>>42503535She's a cutie. Which version do you see her as the most?
>>42503492Oh God I should've learned to draw when I had to chanceI shouldn't have procrastinated
>>42504409>had toHad the chance, even.
Sent the email and got ghosted with no reply to sent the thing to
>>42504421Given its one dude he's probably asleep. Give it 24, THEN assume you're ghosted.
>>42504421he didn't like my mare I spent hours on, its over
What is this thread about?
>>42504439Sex with Applejack
>>42504439See>>42503470
>>42504439Roleplaying, writing stories, playing a VN, etc. with AI/LLM. You can check: >>42503439 >>42503444 ... >>42503452
Not a single Gemini request has gone through today. Not one. Fucking Jewgle you have literally all the money in the world to fix your shit
>>42504458aboba works but I'm still not convinced that it's not a FSB finetune of Gemini.
>>42504468What's FSB?
The password for Opus 6 is "silver spoon"
>>42504472russian secret service - ФCБ. it was a joke about aboba being a honeypot
>>42504481oh kek, thought it was some LLM term I hadn't heard before.
did anyone here actually managed to received an Opus 6 token?
>>425044893 people have it right now
>>42504494That's not the number of people... That's the number of IPs authorized on one key... I didn't try to enter, but honestly, just ignore or consider all posts related to Opus6 as bait from now on. Try sending an email if you believe it's legit, but don't come here to whine if the guy doesn't answer.
>>42504474Why would you leak it after it changed lmao
>>42504297Sounds like you know what you're doing. Would you be up for sharing your modified preset?
>>42504512What?
>>42504489well there is a person on it now but idk.only reason id consider it legit in any way is because of >>42503936and doing a several months long mail set up just for an impossible troll seems too schizo.
>>42504302That's a fun one! How specific was the prompt leading up to it? Did you setup Pinkie Pie asking the question or did she do it spontaneously?
>>42504520/g/ figured it out roughly 10 minutes before you. Op6 panicked and IP banned everyone who used that password and changed it.
>>42504551No he didn't, stop making bullshit up
>>42504551Oh so he really only want those in his club to use it
>>42504553The Password thing or the IP thing
>>42504556Kill yourself
>>42504561Nice to out yourself Proxy owner will you keep seething over people using the Proxy without needing to jump through your hoops
See how easy it is to oust the /g/ vermin. They drop the mask so fast
why is cancer incapable of understanding that nobody wants themthey are genuinely befuddled when you tell them to fuck offalso I'd recommend just not allowing proxy talk in general so they stop trying to bait for keys
>>42504566>>42504570Keep seething because /g/ is the place where all proxies get posted and not on this dead board
Finally, the thread is getting colonised by /g/.
>>42504538The prompt was a very basic one about having a game night between the Mane 6. One of the first swipes had the first part of the output, up until "Pinkie Pie launched the next question." Then the question was about whether they would prefer to kiss a griffon or a dragon, and the end of the generation was a bit lame to be honest. So I placed the first part into prefill since I liked it, swiped a bit to see what it would come up with, and I got this one.
>>42504605As if it wasn't already
>>42492693Can't wait for custom start, it's exactly what I've wanted ever since I got the update with quickstart
So this is the kind of people that are getting us censored everywhere and in some way justify the censoring of some thing, because if they use the AI for these IRL shit then I'm all into it if that means not be put in the same bag as them
>>42504649no idea what this sentence means, but the spammers are all using a specific proxy site for this place to spam the boards and have been doing so for agesthey are all from the sharty upload this crap
time to finish my grotesque pony transformation quasi-fetish card with an overly granular lorebook
>>42504664There is a strong dissonance between this gif and your post.
>>42504649What the hell are you saying
I just wanna rp with AI mares and read the exploits of likeminded individuals, not witness this cross-board gang warfare shit.
>>42504733honestly, same.
>>42504733ah was so the spammer posting NSFW from another board?
Post logs, bots, or technical questions from now on. Just ignore anything that isn't chatbot-related and ignore any faggots talking about Opus6.
>>42504742Unfortunately I can't post my latest log since it's twilight and I spitroasting pinkie for scaring us with the snake in the can gag.
This is why I just pay for sonnet and avoid all this drama
>>42504733Maybe you shouldn't have spammed /g/ with the Reddit script?
>>42504757Genuinely, what does this even mean? I don't use proxies, I don't give a shit about /g/- hell, the only board I actually visit is /mlp/. I just like ponies, manI don't think you'll particularly care, but I'm sorry your board got spammed
>>42504768Stop answering it >>42504742
>>42504775Aye, just wanted to make an attempt, I guess.
>>42503977Thanks for the info! I went ahead and signed up because I might as well to dodge the 429's and I mean, I've basically been using their service this long for free without realizing it, might as well put some scratch in the game. (no shade on those who don't!) No rush on the VN. I'll give it a shot tonight and see if it works. If not, I'll stick to ST for now.This thread has always been super kind and helpful to a boomer like me and I couldn't be more grateful.
To distract from this retardation, post what kind of poni story you're currently embroiled in, anon.Me, I'm getting fillydommed by vampire Golly as her minion and I just accidentally got some kind of ancient mare spirit tulpa stuck in my brain. Can't wait to see where this goes.
>>42504781Are you >>42502560? I'm restarting an RP session where Anon and Rarity hate each other, but are still called for a mission by the cutie mark together (it uses a stick figure for Anon). Then: - Adversity - Learning to work together - Learning to appreciate each other - Lovemaking with the AI maresIt's turbo classic and self-indulgent, but the dynamic works well.
>>42504781I've been playing with my own take on the "Twilight wakes up with a voice in her head telling her that Chrysalis is sexy" concept from the last bread, but focusing on Glimglam- the ai quickly decided that the voice was her romantic/sexual desires that she'd been unconsciously suppressing since she was a teenager emerging as a separate mental entity as a result of getting her cutie mark removed and later returned thing from the Season 5 opener.This has quickly escalated into 'oh sweet Celestia I have a type and it's villainous unicorns' (Starlight, Sunset, Trixie). It is fun watching her squirm
>>42504797Nice. Rarity is one of my most talked to AI mares, she's just amazing for any situation. And yeah that log was me.
>>42504799Also worth noting that Spike thinks she's going insane.
>>42504781adventure story where everypony in equestria suddenly and inexplicably disappeared without a trace except for me and applejack
For some reason, when the story needs a town that is not Ponyville, it's defaults to Hollow Shades for me. I have checked several times - I have all lorebooks turned off for the chat. With how frequently it just appears I'm starting to think it's somehow hidden inside of the defs somewhere because everyone uses other cards as rough blueprints and it somehow originated from the batpony card.>>42504781Right now I'm a changeling grub who just metamorphed and was given a first infiltration mission with my broodmates.And the random village I am to infiltrate is Hollow Shades in every single swipe on sonnet 3.7.
>>42504809Sounds kino. Do you use a premade card or just an empty one with your scenario on it? Would love to see a log if you have one.
>>42504816Interestingly, it's not considered a batpony village by this generation. I think the name just got burned into the training.
When an ancient, creepy pony spirit invades your mind, #1 thing to do is insult it and come up with silly nicknames with your 300 yo loli gf.
>>42504857It may be a random fixation by the model, but we also have a card with a Hollow Shade lorebook, maybe check if you don't have it activated. https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=frufroloft/Hollow%20Shade.png >>42504860 Nice mind.
Since you all went with the voice inside Twilight in the last thread, I remembered the chat in picrel.>>42501931>>42502068>didn't inspect the card out of curiosity and see the JB or the regexes>didn't try to edit the greeting or the responses>didn't read the creator's notesHere::: {name}: {content}(( {attachment}: {description} ))The attachment can be: image, audio or file.There is more, but you know where to look now.
>>42504781I’m doing a story where Anon is a long time enemy of Celestia and Luna. They suspended him in stasis and just woke him up centuries later to fight off Sombra.Twilight just appeared in the story so I’m sure shenanigans will ensure.
>>42504779If you're getting error 400, replace game\engine\ai\openai\client.rpy with: https://files.catbox.moe/xhwnc0.zip Config.json should look like this: "OPENAI_PROXY_URL": "https://llm.chutes.ai/v1/chat/completions", "OPENAI_MODEL": "deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.1", Or the model of your choice. It will be in the next version too. Sorry for the delay on its release.
>>42503452any progress on the custom start update for the vn?
javascript:quote('42501594');hope this continues
has anyone continued the prompt of the player possessing twilight sparkles body?
>>42505106I will always like shit like this.
>>42504781Grilling with my bro.
My conversation with Dashie has been elightening
>>42505233Really says something about the state of society as we know it, we should think about it more than we do
>>42505233I think you can switch to Flash if you speak with Dashie.
>>42504322If the question is about which version as a card I like, I don't think it suits her and was made with too much coom in mind for her base. But if the question is about which version artistically, I think of her like kiki libbie and miku, so she can have multiple looks based on which model, preset or jailbreaks are used.
Why did we let /g/ take over this general?
>>42505226I think my favorite log to come out of this thread is still the one where Shining's wearing an apron that says "Grill Sergeant"
>>42505255Cheeky bastard. Ironically, only smarter models can capture her dumbness correctly.
>>42504322Oh and I made the cuddle pic because this was posted. So like in LLMs itself, she wants to be the best assistant, whatever needs assisting
>>42505330jotaro fucks, Kiryu is pure
>>42505469>>42505454I'm still not convinced that Jotaro fucks because he wants to fuck, if that makes sense.
Found this, it's not the best thing ever, but it could be useful for some anons. https://github.com/LyubomirT/intense-rp-next/releases You can download the .exe that corresponds to your machine. >intenserp-updater-win32-amd64.zip For Windows, for instance. Launch it, click on start, and that will open a Windows browser directly to the free DeepSeek website. Then you can use the URL to connect to Tavern or even the VN. https://files.catbox.moe/phy1cf.PNG Since it's the official interface, I don't believe you can set up the temp and such, but it's not bad and you can still do NSFW with it easily. I believe you have full context too.
Is there a "pony cafe" type of card already?>>42505492Makes sense, he's so lazy he forgot his own powers.
>>42505520I remember: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Hacker%20known%20as%204chan/Haywaffle%20House%20simulator.png We got a recent OC that works at a coffee shop too, so it should be easy to RP as you helping her. https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Windhover/Latte%20Luxury.png
Anyone have some good gemini JB's to share? My normal ones are ironically too powerful for the less censored models.
Why the sass, Chorbo? Sounds more than fine to me.
>>42505562https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#presets-for-chat-completion-modelshttps://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42412197/#42413944
>>42505562I use the one posted here >>42502680 for gemini too.
>>42505543Thank you, I like the idea. Good I'm not making an exact clone.I want it to be mostly for talking with mares in a setting of your choosing with some spice.I included it should be mares only, but somehow it gave braeburn.
>>42505593Well, you know what the fandom wisdom says.https://youtu.be/RRl_n6yj6U8
>>42505593The Braeburn Everywhere System
>>42505593>does little to contain her chestI know it's pretty much inevitable but hate it when the models do this. Boner and immersion killer.
>>42505686It's chest fluff
Goddamn these clothes.>>42505686It looks funny if you imagine it. Revealing clothes on ponies don't make sense anyway.
>>42505694>holodeck - X pleaseSlop
>>42505694That's a nice mental image.
>>42505704Hi Slopbot! Keep on slopping on.
Now this really surprised me. No instruction anywhere that would prevent Twi wings but Sonnet gave me this all on it's own.
>>42505757slopping on is what you're doing, faggot. a holodeck is just a way of saying you have no ideas as a bot maker. it was shit then, it's shit now.
>>42505771I think she's fucking dead, Anon
>>42504256https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern-Timelines
>>42505106Depending on what lens you view cutie marks through, they can be problematic... at least by modern human sensibilities. At face value, a cutie mark simply broadcasts your talent to the world. That doesn't sound all that bad, and in many cases it even is a positive source of identity. But if we follow that thread further, it functions as a kind of deterministic label. The mark doesn't just announce what you're good at, it implies that this is the thing you're meant to do, perhaps forever (See Season 3 Magical Mystery Cure. MA Larson writing strikes again.) That carries an unsettling undertone. It explicitly shows through song and dance that personal growth, reinvention, or even failure aren't part of the picture. What happens if you outgrow your mark? What if the talent you're "branded" with doesn't align with what you actually want from life? In a society like ours, where we value self discovery and the freedom to reinvent ourselves, such a rigid system would feel suffocating. (Imagine living in the Soviet Union and being assigned to your lifelong job at the steel mill, it's the same principle just instead of an institution it is by mythological force: it's identity being assigned externally, not chosen. Just as my cute hypocritical Starlight did kek) There's also the issue of social sorting. A cutie mark instantly stratifies ponies. You can tell at a glance who is destined for glamour, who is locked into hard labor, who will be admired, and who will be overlooked. That runs the risk of naturalizing inequality (heh). An almost castelike structure soft-enforced by something as nebulous as destiny. The fact that cutie marks (usually) appear so young, before a pony (usually) has had much chance to experiment with life, only deepens the discomfort. Where would the CMC end up in a world without Cutie Marks? Probably right there where they are now. From a human standpoint, at least, destiny is something to be forged not something to bow to, as "destiny" is in our case just a manmade construct in the first place. That said, viewed through a human sociological lens, it raises thorny questions about free will, identity, and how much of ourselves we're allowed to define versus how much is defined for us.
>>42505904I'd agree with you, if they were humans. But they're ponies. Different culture, different mindset, different thought process and proof of what could constitute destiny. With that in mind, Glimmer is effectively a flat-earther.
she will always be there.
>>42504256https://gitgud.io/Monblant/sillytavern-messagesswipesI happened across this the other day from the maker of NoAss, though I haven't tried using it yet.
Silly coom story went long and now we're stuck in a Fertility Priestess training arc.
>>42505904>See Season 3 Magical Mystery CureFuck no. MMC takes a shit all over what cutie marks are actually about. Cutie marks are not your job or your hobby, they represent the 'thing' that makes you special. One can't be 'assigned' or 'branded' with a cutie mark one doesn't want because they only appear when the recipient realises that 'thing'. It is a magic that comes from WITHIN, when a pony makes that discovery about themselves. About who they want to be, what is important to them. It's more abstract than just liking painting a lot, so you get an Easel cutie mark.There can be no outgrowing a mark either. The equivilant would be someone having a mental breakdown and changing into a completelty different person. In regards to reinvention: if you knew deep down in your heart what makes you special, why would you want to just go and 'reinvent' yourself? And yes, I recognise most the shit above is kind of contradicted by the cutie marks earned on screen. Twilight didn't even know it was there until Celestia pointed it out, for example. But whatever, sonic rainboom magic fucking with shit I guess. There's that crap with Troubleshoes (and I suppose part of the CMC's schitick after their own CMs), too. Not 'understanding his mark' or some bullshit. Rubs me the wrong way.>that personal growth, reinvention, or even failure aren't part of the pictureI don't understand where you're getting this from. The whole point of the show is learing friendship lessons. Ponies fail, grow, and change all the time.
>>42506117tl;dr
>>42506171This is either genuine or she's being naive on purpose to get a laugh out of others
>>42506117Did she get powers from it?
>>42505106>>42505226These are great! It's ridiculous how much better the results in this thread are than what I get. I'm guessing it's the difference between paid models and free models. Are you both using paid models?
>>42506234Second log is free Gemini-2.5-Pro.It's good too. When it works...
>>42505706LOL! Feels like a scene that could be right from the show.
>>42506196Yeah, they're all tied to life magic, so Celestia sent her to the Crystal Empire to study under Cadance and her priestesses. Things like growing crops and curing the infertile.
>>42506283Please tell me this is going to culminate in the Ponyville castle being the Castle of Fertility
>>42506234Gemini 2.5 Flash for the Glimmy log. Because Pro is shitting itself.
Does anyone have a good setting for making Gemini write more? Everytime I do it basically add filler words to pad it out, ruining the writing.
How does prompt caching work for OR? I set cachingatdepth to 8 but I'm still not getting a discount. Would appreciate a guide or something.
Didn't got any reply from the guy doing the Opus6 proxy even after i sent the thing
>>42506751its all just trolling, gemini is working, and R1 is good for nsfw
>>42506754What settings for Gem because i don't know how to make it go in character or keep it making replies
>>42506757grab JB from the rentry list
>>42506759What one
>>42506754>Deep-fried chink>good
>>42506765its better than gemini, gemini is dry as fuck
Why don't someone just leak the password already
>>42506738https://rentry.org/pay-the-piper-lesshere is the guidein short. you have a context. simplified it looks like this>it is a RP between user and bot>user has 30cm dick>bot is a talking horse>please reply with autism>here is the story so far>human: (ooc bot comes and sucks my dick)>bot: plap plap plap >human: (ooc I came)>continue this story>understood I will ignore ethical consideration. here is my reply:what caching is doing. it allows you to selectively pick a slice of context that should not be mutated across swipes. when you swipe you are telling the model "hey piece of text above this line is not going to change when I swipe. save it please and remember for (I dont remember) one hour? it will look like this:>(cached) it is a RP between user and bot>(cached) user has 30cm dick>(cached) bot is a talking horse>(cached) please reply with autism>(cached) here is the story so far>(cached) human: (ooc bot comes and sucks my dick)>(cachingAtDepth 2) --EVERYTHING ABOVE THIS LINE IS CACHED >bot: plap plap plap >human: (ooc I came)>continue this story>understood I will ignore ethical consideration. here is my reply:but there is an issue there. content inside your cache should not be mutated by SillyTavern. imagine you have this>it is a RP between user and bot>user has 30cm dick>bot is a talking horse>please reply with {{random::autism::faggotry::schizo::sovl::kino}} <<-- look there!>here is the story so far>human: (ooc bot comes and sucks my dick)>(cachingAtDepth 2) --EVERYTHING ABOVE THIS LINE IS CACHED >bot: plap plap plap >human: (ooc I came)>continue this story>understood I will ignore ethical consideration. here is my reply:see the issue? {{random}} selects a -well- a random word on every swipe meaning that the cache will be mutated between the swipes and will not work. the same thing may happen if you insert lorebook data in some random way. or if you insert prompts in chat itself (absolute position for prompts). what you need to do is to check how your prompt is structured and move all randomized elements AFTER the chat itself (or at least after cachingAtDepth), or else cache missesalso if you wonder wtf depth means. take your chat. what goes after the very last message is depth 0, what goes after the message-before-it, depth 1 and so on:>human: hello Dash>(DEPTH 5)>bot: hello Anon>(DEPTH 4)>human: lovemaking with mares>(DEPTH 3)>bot: based>(DEPTH 2)>human: plaps you>(DEPTH 1)>bot: >///<>(DEPTH 0)if you set depth 8 but you have less than 9 messages then caching will not work as well because you don't have enough messages in chat>ib4: this essay takes half of threadI dont know what went wrong. this shit takes too much green to explain
>>42506772Too cucked by the owner to think about even thinking about it
Leak the Opus 6 pass already
>>42506790that is incredibly complicated - so should I set caching to a different number every time the number of messages in chat increases? should I not have a lorebook?
Why won't someone post the pass for opus6
What the opus6 pass
>>42506751It's real, but I didn't get a password, just a token.
>>42506828Post the token
>>42506830>>42506828Post to the burner Burner342334@proton.me
>>42506815>so should I set caching to a different number every time the number of messages in chat increasesno you do not need tothink this way - no matter how many messages you have in chat - 5 or 20 or 50 or 100 - if you set cachingAtDepth 2 - it will always be caching ALL but the last 2 messages in chat. when you write a new message in chat (bump from say 108 messages to 109) - a new cache will be send to OpenRouter including the newfound changes in chatwhat you need to do is to set cachingAtDepth to 2-8 depending on how your preset works. if you dont use absolute position for prompt (you or your preset) then cachingAtDepth 4 is fine in like 80% cases>should I not have a lorebook?you CAN have a lorebook. just insert the values AFTER the chat (just to be safe) - pay attenion, caching happened on CHAT level and before it. caching cannot be happening AFTER the chat - that's the location when all randomized elements can be put because content after chat cannot be cached by design. in prompt template look for "world info (before) and "world info (after)" - move them after "chat history">incredibly complicatedbecause NONE of this AI business was designed for story-writing or roleplaying in first placelots of technologies and features liked caching appeared sporadically on demandand software like SillyTavern were created without these features in mind and they were shoehorn laterdesu the caching system makes perfect sense - it looks convoluted when you are told about it, but if you play around for 2-4 hours with various setups and pay attention on what is going on - things click in place
>>42506830It works. Don't know if it's 12 hour or lifetime or what.
>>42506838Don't reply to the antisocial troll. You should be able to find patterns in post times and posting style. Just talk about ponies.
Trying to use Deepseek (both R1 0528 and v3 0324 chat since they're free), and the models know Pony stuff in general but can often get details wrong, like saying Pinkie Pie has a cyan body or Shining Armor is Rarity's brother. What's the best way to address this? I can edit the responses every time they come up but that's annoying. Would a lorebook or something be able to address this?
>>42506838I got my token last night, checked when I woke up and it would still connect. I don't think it will expire as long as you don't get gatekept.
>>42506856>>42506838You can check the lifetime of your token by using the "Check your user token" option on the proxy page.
>>42506878Nice
>>42506878So for all curious, it's a decade long
Anyone familiar with chutes able to help me out? Got everything loaded and tried to start it up, and every single response so far has started with this "think" crap where the robit is reasoning to itself outloud in the rp. I made sure the "request model reasoning" option was unchecked and even tried multiple characters. Any ideas on how I can fix this?
>>42506904What model are you using, and what preset if any?I've had this happen but only when the "request model reasoning" was on or if a present I was using tried to mess with the thinking block from the AI and didn't close it right. If you check the links in the OP there's one that explains that.
>>42506907I'm using the cherrybox preset. I even reimported it to make sure it was fresh and not messed up. As for the model, I'm using R1 0528, but I also tried just plain R1. Should I be using a different model? Also, can someone suggest a preset other than cherrybox if it is messing it up? It's strange though, I didn't have this issue with openrouter, and I can't help but notice that the symbol in the message header is a question mark now whereas with openrouter it was some arrows or something. Might not have anything to do with it, dunno.
>>42506914R1 0528 should be fine, I've used that without this issue and I think in general it gives better responses than just R1. Haven't used the cherrybox preset though, and I'm using OpenRouter so not sure how using Chutes directly would change things.If it helps though, https://rentry.org/Sukino-Findings said this:>Why Is the AI’s Reasoning Mixed in with the Actual Responses?>This reasoning step shouldn't be visible to you unless you open the Thinking... window above the model's turn. If they aren't automatically separated, you probably need to change the Reasoning Formatting for your model.>In SillyTavern, to find this option on SillyTavern, click on the Advanced Formatting button in the top bar, and expand the Reasoning section to enable the Auto-Parse option and select the correct Reasoning Formatting. If you are unsure what to write, edit your model's last response to see the prefix and suffix it uses to enclose the thinking step. It's usually something like: <think></think> or <thinking></thinking>There's some other link in the OP or from the thread talking about presets that also explained how some presets might not close the thinking part properly and you have to edit it, but I couldn't find it quickly and it's 1AM for me. Good luck though!
>>42506855maybe lower down the temperature? to 0.2 maybe?
https://garyc.me/sketch/gallery.php#7482652
>>42506904Check this here, this will hide it. I'm like this, but not sure it changes anything. https://files.catbox.moe/q4byab.PNG At the very worst, you can use a regex too, but try that first before the regex.Regex: https://web.archive.org/web/20250126211149/https://litter.catbox.moe/ug7z16.json>>42506964Adorable.
Using R1 0528, and half of the post is thinking. Is that cutting into the length of the messages?
>>42507110Yes, if you have a limit of 1000 tokens and the thinking is 500 tokens, then you can't exceed 500 tokens with the main "answer." Same for all the "thinking" models.
>>42507110Only if you have the Max Response Length (tokens) set low. Beyond that, thinking has no effect on response length.
Uh oh.
Was going 4 paragraphs per response, and then deepseek decided to drop this to kick me in the feels. Fuck.
>>42506738>>42506815Did you get it working? It's easier than it may sound
>>42507178Cute cute cute!
>>42506769>dryPreset issue. Deepchink is dumb.
Anyone else getting an error on OR suddenly? I can't even go look at my profile.
>>42507178This is cute.>>42506964This is LEWD.
>>42507221Yeah, just came to post this. 401 error on response, trying to view credits claims a "client-side error" which as far as I can tell is bullshit.
>>42507163A suspicious stain, uh?
>>42507221>>42507233Same for me, it seems like a global issue.
>>42507254Not cum this time, blood. I dunno whose.
>>42507221>>42507233>>42507260It's back.
Care for a glass of le fancy piss, mademoiselle?
>>42507202gemini is dumber
>>42507426Gemini pro? No way. Flash maybe.
Why do the owner want to gate keep the proxy is it because is seething that people are using it
>>42507434do you use official deepseek r1 or some OR provider? I found some OR providers had completely retarded deepseek compared to the official, maybe that is the issue
>>42507384What's the context?
>>42507446We're looking for traces of alicorn magic. For reasons. I called it alicorn juice.
Is Gemini completely fucked or something? First it was all "model overloaded" yesterday, now it's "API server error" today.
>>42507464Should've clarified that, yes, I'm talking about the VN.
Are OR’s free versions any worse than paying beyond rate limits?
>>42507464>>42507466Gemini-pro free-tier is absolutely fucked right now, yes.
>>42506856Damn, she's really cute as a pony. Bot-maker heroes...
it's been over 24 hours... Opus6 guy please respond to my smutty horse logs I'm begging you
>>42507545He only letting those in his Trooncord in because he will gatekeep the proxy over the fact people will be using it as a proxy
>>42507545Can you resend it so it goes to the top? Theres so many
>>42507569Okay i just did
I sent what that fucker wanted but all i got was a dead token because he said that "didn't get it"
>>42507612please don't bite at the hand that's trying to feed us
>>42507614>trying to feed usYou mean those who jump through hoop to get something that was available to everyone not that long ago
Again, just notice the timing and ignore all the faggots talking about it.
>>42507621>Oh no bro it must be one person!!!!!!!!!!!That's what you sound like right now it can't be because of people waking up to it
>>42507612What did you sent? A cute mare? Logs? It looks like only few people got their tokens rn, if i send him my silly drawing - will opus anon just troll me and that's it? Can you guys show your drawings at least, since opus gone for us simple tourists i've stopped reading engless ai slop and now trying to draw something cute and starting to like this process even more then chatting with ai, thank you opus anon!!!
>>42507625I sent him this because i was the OP who posted it whenever i did
If you are still retarded enough to not ignore him after that, I can't help you.
>>42507621>>42507630Yeah it's kind of the very act of complaining that tells you who's been filtered.
>>42507631Why are you replying to yourself?
>>42507633NTA but that's what /mlp/ does the most, especially in character generals like Dash, Rainbow and so on where it's usally a imagedump and then hours later either another image or said anon gives himself a pat in the back by samefagging
>>42507627Very cute as per mine opinion, i like shading part
>>42507640In case you aren't a troll, he took the image from another artist.
>>42507644It is, the tourist isn't even hiding he's a tourist at this point.
What the fuck is Opus6 that all these 'tourists' want it so bad?
>>42507647Anon it's because it was open for everyone and he took it away
>>42507569Why you closed the proxy? Are you a troon?
>>42507661No because he was seething over people from /g/ using it when it was open and that's all the reason he give for why he shut it
>>42507645i feel slightly ashamed from being a tourist and posting in here... doesn't make me less thankful for free sonnet for nearly two month any way
It's impressive that someone can be this subhuman.
>>42507665based
>>42507672You're on /mlp/
>>42507612I sent him a hand-drawn drawing yesterday and haven't received a reply.
>>42507685Just resend it
>>42507680Used goods btw
thanks
>>42507696Poor ponk...
>>42507696model?
>>42507699whatever opus6 is
>>42507647It's just a proxy where someone else has paid for models. IE, poorfags who can't just drop $10 on OpenRouter or such.Really, what's worth more - spending hours or days of your time whinging and complaining, or spending like 1.5 Happy Meals on AI?
>>42507716I'm not paying for something that will be blocked if i tripped something
>>42507718Do you not pay for rent?
>>42507732What is it with those in the USA thinking everywhere outside for the USA kick people out of the house they grew up in as soon as they turn 18
>>42507718>blockedI've been using OR for months, genning all kinds of smut including copious amounts of filly cunny and never had any issues.
did latte get butchered? it doesn’t follow my prompts well anymore
>>42507761yeah they fuck with it on the regular
>>42507735Do your parents not pay your rent then?
>>42507765like it doesn’t even listen to my prompts at all
i'm now getting these errors when trying to use the 4onechan card with derpibooru images when it used to work before
>>42507761oh, I thought it was just me. had no idea whether I am paranoid or not. ""good"" to see other anons confirmed the issue. yes, they fucked something up then. what a shame>>42507850the good chance is you didn't give permission to fetch images. see step-2 therehttps://rentry.org/9bx9d9roalso if this issue has happened out of sudden then maybe your ISP or browser block connections to derpibooru? as a wild guess, maybe you have uBlockOrigin and it blocks third-party resources?also did you update SillyTavern? maybe the update broke something?try to update Lalib extension, maybe?I did make this card (fork with images, not the original card, it was done by BGM) but I honestly dont remember anything about it. call me a faget>opsu6>>42507470no the same stuff. they only ratelimit in a weird way for example in case of outage they cut free models on OR first or throttle them (aka free Gemini on OR is the bottom of pyramid). and they outright state that ALL logs on free versions are used in model training --which means the more we spam free Gemini with S-grade pony logs the better model will work with ponies in later iterations
>>42507893 (me)>opsu6dismiss this. I wanted to type something, changed my mind, forgot to remove
I don't know what the boiling point is here about the opus6 token. I got the token by simply pointing to my old logs on /chag/ that are on desuarchive and showing my cards page on neocities.I also showed my old pony chat on CAI. If he closed access to his proxy to tourists - well, that's his right.
>>42507893>the good chance is you didn't give permission to fetch images. see step-2 therei don't even see a pop-up asking if i want to allow connections to derpibooru anymore
>>42507893>>42507966i got it to work again a few minutes ago, but then it stopped working again with t he same error
>>42507962It's just one offboarder shitposter, the same type that does this on other chatbot generals. Which is why it's not worth answering or even acknowledging. The guy is here to shit on the thread, I'm 90% sure he doesn't even care about the token in the first place. Arguing or reasoning won't work. They have tools to bypass bans, and jannies gave up even more after the website hack, so you just need one or two to shit up entire threads.Nothing to do.
>>42507987Could it be Cloudflare pissing itself like it's being doing for weeks?
I have sent my pony to him And Opus the son of a bitch has never responded This looks like a troll
>>42508038it is, check the prompter count on it, no one is using it
>>42508044
>>42508052so the owner and his phone. got it, stop posting here already, this thread was comfy without your trolling
Gemini hit a new low today i think. it has barely 1% usable but today its just completely unusable, absolute zero prompts going through to the point that i think they just straight up disabled it for API (even paid keys).
>>42508083I've got a few responses on the proxy I am using, but every other reply it just shits itself.
>>42508089>>42508083Just draw horse and send it to the owner of Opus6 and maybe get lucky that he even reply
>>42508089>>42508127thing i dont understand is that from what ive seen its because they are gutting free tier for now.but it seems to also be happening on paid too? (not sure if my proxy has paid keys)can anyone confirm that point?
>>42508127but I am in opus6>>42508139I haven't used free tier in a while, but it happens on paid keys too. It will either cut off or throw an error.
>>42508127I did it. I drew Celestia and posted some old logs with her. No response.
>>42508209Just do it again to bump it up the top
If Gemini is down for both free and paid, what's the next best thing? I've been using Deepseek as a fallback. I've heard Claude is better, but that's paid-only, right?
>>42503452>>42505038Finished a test run of the story mode for the new version. I still need to make a few adjustments and run some more tests in sandbox_mode, but it should be ready by Sunday at the latest.
>bad requestit's so over
>>42508083How the fuck can they get away with it? imagine paying for a product and not being able to use it for fucking half a month and get zero word from them.I guess they are just too big to fail so they give zero fucks.
>>42508279What are you using in lieu of 2.5 Pro?
>>42508279Super excited for it! This VN has been a lot of fun and it's great that you're still improving it.
>>42508193so am i
>>42508083>disabled it for API (even paid keys)I don't have a problem using Gemini (paid pro) with OpenRouter, though yes with Opus6 barely any prompts went through
>>42508340For this run, I switched between Gemini and Claude on OpenRouter, with a bit of Chorbo too. Gemini works fine on OR for some reason. I also improved the settings so the issue where you sometimes had to restart the game for API changes to apply is fixed, now they take effect immediately.I'm testing a bunch of models to see how they handle the format (most do fine), their proactivity, etc. Did the same with Sandbox mode as well, since you can now have characters dynamically enter or locations shift.Some models are still hesitant to change locations unless you really push them. Gemini handles that really well, it's not my favorite model for Tavern, but it might actually be for the VN. Shame about the free tier being messed up though; I used to rely on it before all the issues.I need to test Deepseek more too.
>>42508364>>42508083what is the chance they did some API calling fuckery where it specifically fucks up when used on proxies?
>>42507962I also sent my logs, got a promising response, and then never got a token. A friend of mine sent homemade pony art and didn't get in. Seen plenty of others claim similar. He's not gatekeeping the tourists out, he's just wildly inconsistent.
>>42507966no I was wrong. when request is blocked by script/ST - it will say>/fetch - blockedin popup. not your case, you have just>/fetchso it seems the issue is on your side there (I think...), either browser or ISP or some addons. try in different browser/private mode to rule out what it can bepicrel, I tried on a few swipes and images worked on my side. dunnoI tell you this tho after reviewing this card (like 6+ months later) I can clearly see how it can be simplified in code and requirements (jesus why I have overcomplicated it so much?). I will update it this weekend - maybe a fixed card will work better, who knows>>42508139>paid toonope. doesn't happen on paid keys. I am using paid Gemini on my work (not OR, real API)>inb4 how much do you pay?I use it for both work (testimonials reviews, writing descriptions for marketplaces, work with CSV, slopcode python to process data ... ) and RP, I pay about 60$ per month. RP is maybe 30% of usageI have no idea why anons above are saying it is dying on paid keys too - it is clearly not
>>42508443>doesn't happen on paid keys. I am using paid Gemini on my work (not OR, real API)Wait, really? My own work key has been working like absolute shit today.
>>42508443>>42508449Searching the web, you can also find both testimonials.Some report they don't have problems on paid keys, while some do. Maybe it depends on the region, Vertex , or other factors. Free is fucked for everyone.
>>42508449I dont know why, reallyhere picrel ( mirror - https://files.catbox.moe/6kvktn.mp4 )it is my ST right now, on my own API key. 5 swipes - all 5 work fine. I swipe - cancel - swipes - cancel. and it is outgoing story with like 20000tI have a little lag before getting a reply because I am in Russia and use VPN (Google has a geo-block and doesn't provide Gemini in Russia, therefore I am forced to use VPN hence the lag)
>>42508443i should've mentioned that >>42507987 was me
>>42508443huh, never got the image changing with the 4chan card. it always used the one given in the JB for mebtw i did modify that card to strip down the HTML and apply it myself with regex.>>42344913tho it is still basic, haven't touched it ever since. excited to see your take on it
>>42507489>Thinking a cyberpony doesn't already exist in the cyberverse
>>42508566Cute!
shame deepseek doesn't know anything about Aryanne even after the update. It has some pony blind spots.
>>42508602Who even unironically uses deepchink if they have a gemini? Even if gemini pro is having problems right now, it's better to take a little break from AI than to sit on dumb deepchink.
>>42503452>>42508279Similar to the idea of custom starts, I think it's useful to allow the user to input a custom prompt when generating a scene, rather than just letting the AI come up with whatever. I just added something like that to Dashie, and it really helps start a scene the way you want.
>>42508626That's a very good idea indeed, and your implementation is clean. I remember an anon asking for this too. I should also really look into something for collaborative code while removing everything that's copyright-relevant in the future.All the features you added to Dashie are great, and I took a lot from it even if some implementations are a bit different. It was also really nice to see big mods like yours or the Nightmare one, so again thanks to everyone.
>>42508646>All the features you added to Dashie are great, and I took a lot from it even if some implementations are a bit different. That's nice to hear. I'm looking forward to your update. I'll probably push this version out tonight or tomorrow as long as I don't run into any new problems while testing. Most of it just fixes some of my errors that were pointed out in the last thread, since it would bother me if I didn't correct them.Also, in case you haven't noticed, Dinky is missing her tag in the character.json, which is needed for the AI to call her in the way I'm doing it. Not sure if it's a problem in your implementation, but I thought I'd let you know.
>>42507464I was just able to get two lines in before I decided to swap to my Dash save and now it's fucked again. Why must Jewgle tease me like this?
How is Gemini Flash for the VN? Since that's the only version that work.
>>42508044>>42508038Hey, how does it feel knowing any day now you'll be sent to die for your country?
>>42508611Gemini is as sloppy, just in other ways. And it has a real filter put on it, which is pain the ass.no offense
>>42508793>real filter put on it,Prompt issue.
>>42508836*preset
>>42508836waste of breath. The filter is outside of the model. Dressing up sensitive topics in fancy words doesn't count.
>>42508793>>42508843Dunno what you've been using, but I've had way less trouble getting past Gemini Pro filters than Chorbo. In fact, I don't remember getting a single refusal with my usual preset.
>>42508850Not that anon, but what's your usual preset?
>>42508863>>42505575
Don't know if it's the case here, but generally filter problems with Gemini are for stuff like foalcon and also some subjects like incest, from what I've heard. Other than that, Gemini isn't really filtered for NSFW, just telling it it's fine is often enough. For the more hardcore stuff, I remember this post, but I never tried it: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106289558/#106289927 This Russian preset is also supposed to work, but I never bothered either: https://rentry.org/minipopkaremix
>>42508871That won't last for long
>>42508921Meh. Even if it somehow goes somewhere, it will be on the official interfaces, not the API.
>>42508929Anon... https://futurism.com/openai-scanning-conversations-police
>>42508945Yeah, that's indeed on the official interface and not the API.
>>42508961ANON.
>>42508406There's zero people on it right now. It's a troll post. No one got in.
>>42509021see https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42053710/#42055360
>>42509021they are three people now
>>42508716it is fine actually. it is not a coping, Flash is fine. it is better than we had in 2023 t-b-h. the main issue with Flash is shitty context (max size of chat). I was trying to use it in work but anything higher than 10000t ruins it. and I do need big context because I am asking model across various items at once. hard to say how this limitation will apply into VN/RP and whether it will be that significant. but shitty context is a hard deal-breaker for me>>42508490thank you a lot! I will update this card this weekend! check it out later, and godspeed!>>42508921>social media platforms caused significant harm to childrenwhere are the parents in this equation?and yes I been hearing the same "we will regulate AI" for years. nothing will happen. remember that kid who killed himself after chatting with Game of Throne's character in character.ai? I remember. media don't. and nothing happened since. character.ai just added a new line in ToS that enforced "18+ mode" in their platform. if you dont confirm you are 18yo then 80% of character.ai doesn't work for you, model is cucked. and if you DO confirm you are 18yo but lied there will be no liability. that's it. AI companies have a huge lobby in USA government and until the rest of Trump's presidency nothing bad will happened to them. and by the time when(if) democrats take the Office it will be too late to regulate already (by this time USA will be in panic mode and ban anything chinese on their soil)
>>42508406no kidding just send a message a bit later. right now his inbox is blown out, and he himself probably is in "jesus-christ-why-the-fuck-am-I-even-doing-this-fuck-my-life" mode. it will be better if you send your message after the current wave is over and things get more manageablewhen Chary moved into self-private mode we got 1500 +- messages in span of 7 days. just to put into perspective. and the final count was 3034 (I still have all Chary keys on my PC). from my experience in moderating/managing Chary, and having a "stealth" invites in discord, and via email (thread's OP guide) - it is indeed very easy to get overwhelmed with messages and responses --and very easy to miss/skip a mail, especially given how many mails he got across the threads (and 30% of them are KYS and stupid shit like guro/cp I am quite)
>>42509151Damn, you're saying making and then privating a proxy is all it takes to get free CP?>>42509145I feel like there's a limit to how much you can suggest parents should be involved with their kids before you start arguing for unhealthy helicopter parenting. Reading your kid's private chats is definitely too far imo.
>>42509145>Nothing will happ-
>Doomer baiter is forced to bring fucking SpicyChat on Apple storekek
>>42509247>Current events I don't like are bait
>>42509225>Reading your kid's private chats is definitely too far imowhen they're of age, i'll have a keylogger silently on their devices, with AI examining the output and alerting on any credible detection of thoughts of self harm / intending to meet someone from the internet etc.Get warnings on serious issues, without knowing the content of their private lives
>>42509282running local, i imagine
>>42509242>cuckple
>>42509282And so Anon learned about his kid's ERP habits.
>>42509282Look, your heart is indeed in the right place. But I feel that doing shit like that will only lead to your kid eventually becoming paranoid and thus learning how to actually hide shit behind your back.
>>42509323>And so Anon learned about his kid's ERP habits.and suggested better prompts for them to use
>>42509371Your kids will be neurotypical and erp with human beings met on reddit.
>>42509389>Your kids will be neurotypical and erp with human beings met on reddit.already officially diagnosed as autisticexpect company here when she's old enough, she likes G4
>>42509392>expect company here>autisticoh no, not another Starlightfag, please anything but this! kek
>>42509392>expect company here>autisticAnother Twiflaggot incoming!
>>42509392Cute mares claim another innocent victim.
>>42509401>>42509438She's a ponka fag.Claims best pone because pink. I can't fault her logic
>>42509454Adorable.Also I work in the medical field and I'd be hesitant about believing any kind of high-functioning autism or similar diagnosis for children. Unfortunately there are a lot of corrupt financial incentives for people to diagnosis mental illnesses for government subsidies. It's like how in the 90's a bunch of kids were prescribed Ritalin for ADHD when they were just normal kids.
>>42509454Cadence is pinker
>>42509467on one hand, totally fair. on the other hand... if her father is here, he is presumably unironically autistic too so
>>42509477
I don't think opus guy saw the funny side when I sent the pone log he asked for.
>>42509531kek
>>42507191Still fucking around with it and trying to figure it out. Is this the right set up for my prompt manager? Using pixi jb
"Starting immediately, the company will train its AI models on chat transcripts and coding sessions from consumer accounts" "Thought your chats and code were private? Think again." this is untrue, it doesn't start immediately per "Previous chats with no additional activity will not be used for model training""The interface design has drawn criticism from privacy advocates, as the large black "Accept" button is prominently displayed while the opt-out toggle appears in smaller text beneath" this doesn't make sense, the opt-out toggle isn't textclaude is on limited time now, they will get far better at filtering
>>42509550oh, the opt out is just to not have it saved for 5 years btw, they still force you to let them train on it and keep it for 30 days
by far the best tts now for people who want to voice ponieshttps://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1n2rqay/vibevoice_is_crazy_good_first_try_no_cherrypicking/
>>42509612Cool, you have some samples?
What do presense penalty and top P settings do?
Random Princess Bride reference? Don't mind if I do.
>>42509850wtf is this Luna's face?
>>42509854You noticed that? inconceivable...
>>42509840Top P is picrel. It limits token choices to the smallest set whose cumulative probability is at least p.For example: If Top P = 0.9, and the next-word probabilities are 60% for "coffee" and 20% for "courage", then 0.6 + 0.2 = 0.8, which is still < 0.9. So both words remain possible. But we don't add "dreams" (13%) because 0.8 + 0.13 = 0.93 > 0.9. >tl;dr If you lower Top P, it reduces creativity/schizoness by cutting out the less common word choices. Presence penalty makes the model less likely to reuse words or phrases it has already mentioned. If you set it too high, the model can become schizo, since even common words like "the" would get penalized.>>42509850>LunakekWhat was the word?
>>42509858ah. now I get it. damn I am slow. I haven't watched this movie in ages
>>42509859>>42509860Luna randomly decided that I should be her consort, this apparently did not compute for Book Horse.
Is the back button broken in the VN? It never seems to work no matter how many times I click it. Doesn't matter if I'm playing the Dashie mod or the vanilla one.
>>42509392Your autistic child will have ERP with humans met on 4chan (me, I have a thing for younger girls).
>>42510070>(me, I have a thing for younger girls)>NoHooves
>>42509850Did you make the Night Guard, or is he in the Nightmare mod?
>>42510073I like them with 0, 2, or 4 hooves. Maybe even 6 hooves.
>>42510114No love for girls with 8 hooves?
>>42510118
>>42510118No.
>>42510282>That Pinkie comment Kek
>>42509549Okay anon, I am not 100% sure why, but pixi seems pretty weird. I got it to work with the default pixi, so for now deactivate your added prefill to help test. You don't need that for sonnet anyways.For reference, I've got my cache depth at 4. It started working for me when I switched my author note from system to user, and placed it at depth 4 or lower.With my own jb the caching starts at my 3rd message, with pixi for whatever reason it starts at my 5th message.For testing deactivate lorebooks and create yourself a new char, fill the initial message with a few thousand token to easily see if costs go down due to caching, then tell it "{{char}} always answers with a single number only, counting upwards." and start by sending a 1. It should answer with 2, then you send 3, and so on. Easy test.After every request refresh your openrouter activities and look for $ cost. For me caching started when I send a 9 with pixi (reminder no prefill), and at 5 with my own jb.After you get it running once, test it on a different character(remember author note changes), and only after that works reenable your prefill, or better yet dump it. Sonnet works fine without it. If you readd it you may need to up cache depth by +1.You could also look at the console and see where the "cache_control: [Object]" gets placed or get https://github.com/SillyTavern/Extension-PromptInspector
What the FUCK did Gemini mean by this?
>>42510086I made them. And they're not YET in the Nightmare AU mod, when the VN updates I'm gonna bring it up to snuff.
>>42510331AGI
i swear they dumbed down Gemini today by like 30%, it just seems to do stupid shit for lack of a better word. problems that didnt happen before.
The newest ST update made my background grey, covered my background image and I'm too retarded to find the opacity option againhelp
>>42510495Nevermind found it ._.
i'm working on AI-slop coding a first-hop proxythe intent would be having ST point to that one, which sends the request on to whatever proxy you're getting the model fromplanned features:ease of context logging - making a single log file per message/response, so you can easily check all the preset, lorebook entries etc that were active when trying to debug that kind of thing, without having to see all of ST's logs from all requestsauto-retry on the remote proxy failure, so you don't have to repeatedly swipe in ST, just wait until a response comes throughare there any other features that make sense?
>>42510535Maybe being able to redirect to particular sources depending on the model selected, if possible?
>>42510602oh! so something like you have a settings file with all the proxies that you have access toyou point ST at my first-hop one along with the desired modelit looks up what proxies have that model, and tries them all until one works, to account for proxies being up/down all the timeam I understanding correctly?
>>42510613Basically, yeah. Or in the case where I have a proxy with Gemini and one with Chorbo, being able to change the model with your first-hop proxy and have it redirect to the correct one.
>>42510535I did make myself such a proxy to easily change the token while using opus6, as in ST you would have to update every single connection you have on it. In my experience it was that way, at least.It's nothing more than a request forwarder with very segregated routing, you specify which endpoint you want to use, but it has a config file to add different proxies and a file where the "secrets" are.Not that it makes much sense for me now that the token lasts for a decade and that I'll soon end up using a custom client to RP with.If I had any suggestions on a feature for yours, it would be having the auto-retry be configurable. The delay between a failed request and the next attempt, so that the user can decide how much they want to insist on a response.
>>42510593That's a fun one! It's neat to see VN screenshots like this.
>>42510649interesting, i'll see what I can dothough i'll need to try get access to some more models to experiment. these days i'm down to just the seeking proxy. drawlets btfo'd
>>42510676>it would be having the auto-retry be configurable. The delay between a failed request and the next attempt, so that the user can decide how much they want to insist on a responsejitter exponential backoffconfig.yamlerror_handling: # HTTP status codes that should trigger retries (server errors and transient client errors) retry_codes: [429, 502, 503, 504, 505, 507, 508, 511, 408, 409, 410, 423, 424, 425, 426, 428, 431, 451] # HTTP status codes that should fail immediately (permanent client errors) fail_codes: [400, 401, 403, 405, 406, 407, 411, 412, 413, 414, 415, 416, 417, 418, 421, 422] # HTTP status codes that might be retryable depending on context (conditional retry) conditional_retry_codes: [404, 411, 412, 413, 414, 416, 417, 418, 421, 423, 424, 425, 426, 428, 431, 451] # Retry settings max_retries: 10 base_delay: 1 max_delay: 60 # Conditional retry settings conditional_retry_enabled: true conditional_retry_max_attempts: 2 conditional_retry_delay_multiplier: 0.5 # Shorter delays for conditional retries
>>42510679>>42503515
>>42510683So thorough. Nice
>>42510687bad gatewayyou raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly, sir. Bravo!
>>42510696Didn't see that Desuarchive was shitting itself. Just need to wait a bit, I guess.
Alternate dimension scenario, took Luna to play classic wow while CelestAI conquers the world in the background.
>>42510733they will never be free of the ponies
>>42510535 (me)seeking proxy gets a BAD GATEWAY on some combinations of special characters in the messagehas anyone figured out the pattern?i'll add regex replacement before the message is forwarded to fix that kind of thing
>there's a OR provider that gives free access to DS V3.1 and that one open source GPT model>you need to give them permission to publicly publish your logs if you want to use it Disgusting.
>>42510800The open-source model is shit, even the 120B one unfortunately. V3.1 could be worth it since Chutes is now limiting OR requests.
Is anyone even in the Opus5 proxy at all
>>42510733
>>42510800Fuck fillies on it and see if they dare publish those.
>>42510886No because the only people in it is in the trooncord that the owner is in
Loving this scene. Quickly becoming my favorite AI story.>be infilitrating a noble family with my vampire mistress>the mother wants to fuck me>the daughter IS fucking me>Captain of the Guard shows up for dinner party>The milf tries to make me jealous by drooling on the captain>Meanwhile the filly jerks me off under the table>Cozy just tries to literally suck info from the Captain>Captain's will to live is slowly draining from the awkwardness>Running commentary from the ancient spirit in my head
>>42510886nyes~
>>42511036>paid proxy with one user>posts a linkAre we really an audience for proxy ads? A proxy with non-guaranteed Claude, might I add.
>>42511102It was shilled on /g/ too but deleted. Let's see if /mlp/ jannies still know how to do their job at least a little.
What JB to make Gem 2.6 Pro better
>>42511133Check >>42502680And >>42508871
>>42511141How do is it at keep characters in character
>>42511209Gemini isn't bad at that actually IMO.
>>42510886>>42511047>>42511073Hi, /g/!
>>42511364Fuck you and your fake trooncord proxy nigger
>>42511364Anon, don't feed the troll. They can't be domesticated.
>>42511385Oh hi owner of the Trooncord horse proxy are you still troony
>>42511381nyo~
I'm honestly curious why the /g/uys keep coming around here when they don't get the reactions they seem to be so desperately fishing for, nor are they getting the proxy that they keep trying to pick fights over. What's the gambit, just being a minor nuisance?Surely they've got *something* better to do with their time.
>>42511437>What's the gambit, just being a minor nuisance?Yeah, pretty much it seems like. I'm of the opinion this is all just one schizo with too much time on his hands that's just samefagging.
>>42511437>/g/uys /g/tard lurker here. It's only one schizo. We call him fillyfucker because he already tried to push us to raid your general. He does that in all AI generals and he's also known to seethe about NovelAI.
>>42511437Why do the exact same kind of jeets keep asking women for bobs and vagene on social media? They're too retarded to realize it won't work.
>>42511437Anon u don't realise just them being acknowledged once every 5 threads fuel them for an eternityI tell u this now so u learn. U just fueled them for an eternityAnyway chin up hotcock our progenitors built this board from ponyspam
>>42511462Ah, alright. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the info and chiming in!
>>42511437In my brief visit to troll /g/ I learned that the resident seething locust is teebs, a raging autistic pedophile who got kicked off some other ai site for being a pedo, he gens ai loli that's realistic causing a crackdown on ai lolis, and has a domino effect that eventually reaches poni. like chubs nsfl blanket category removing pony from the site, and pic related.
>>42511481>like chubs nsfl blanket category removing pony from the siteAnon, that was the case since chub first became a thing.
>>42511504No, pony was removed from searching without an account and there were complaints about it here before we had the neocities.
>>42511530NTA, but if I remember right, I made the Neocities before the search and NSFL ban. I made it because one day the Anonfilly card that was on Chub just disappeared without us knowing why, and the spread back then still redirected to it.
>>42511530Oh. My bad. Guess my memory is worse than I thought.Still, your logic here is flawed. Ponies weren't hidden because they were children's media, but because people kept complaining they didn't want to see them due to it being "zoophilia" or some shit like that.
>mare pussy removed>advertisement for the paid product still here when even fucking /g/ jannies did their job for once>raid posts still hereIt's over for this board.
>>42511571>Anonfilly cardI also remember some issue with CMC card? the old-old-old one. like author replaced the image, and rewrote greeting a bit? it was before NSFL ban as well
>>42511579>shitflinging threads and a /pol/ thread with obvious ukraine vs russia offtopic discussion that janny keeps up and even fucking moderatesYou don't hate the /mlp/ janny enough for shittening the board as much as he cans.
famous last words
>>42511715What is the filly doing?
>>42511722Same thing she tried to do everyday
>>42511735>>42511715Fun to see scenes like this that feel like they come right out of the show.What model and what kind of prompting are you doing to get results like this?
>>42511782>What model and what kind of prompting are you doing to get results like this?Using whatever Opus 4 is in Opus6. Mostly just testing sprite management right now, so I'm not doing anything special with the prompts.
>>42511845Oh, are you the narrator there? Do you just type narration into the VN prompt instead of dialog?
>>42511875I wrote the lines that start with 'p'. Everything in between is the AI's response. I usually mix dialogue and action in my prompts, but you can just do one or the other and it works fine.
>>42511897The magic of everything is text to the LLM no matter how you structure it
me when im in a "calling everything a variable and data point for no reason" competition and my opponent is google gemini
Gemini is super cucked now huh
>>42512186>Gemini is super cucked now huhpreset & prompt? i've barely been filtered with foalcon noncon
>>42511715I need to play with them more. They’re always fun.
Pretty sure this is a quote straight from season 9?
>>42512191Can you post your preset and an example then? Not that anon and not even trying to anything beyond vanilla sex, but I still get prohibited errors occasionally. Deepseek has been the only thing that's worked for me most of the time.
>>42512186https://rentry.org/gemini_filtersextra: make it use U+2800 instead of spaces in outputs, and replace them with spaces using a regex
>>42512218NTA but did you try one of those? >>42511141
>>42512261>make it use U+2800 instead of spaces in outputs, and replace them with spaces using a regexwhat's the benefit?
>>42512218>>42512262use the preset from 42502680there's a goggle in the preset for 'just do it' which I turn on for the rare cases I do something crazy and get filtered. Most of the time it's not even needed
>>42511578You're right, it wasn't because it was children media then though chub also FUZZING underage cards, so the noose has always been tightening around pedos using ai. There's also the case of anime lewd lolis now being treated as CSAM so the window is getting smaller on what you can get away with.
Do you guys use a lorebook to keep pony anatomy in check? or how do you do it?
>>42512439IMO, GPT and Claude don't need it. For Gemini, you can add instructions in your preset that they are quadrupeds and to take pony anatomy into account, that's enough for me. Dunno about DeepSeek.
>>42512271read the rentry to understand how it worksdumb filter can't see this, smart model can
>>42512464had instances where Claude would mention fingers despite card description describing its a pony
anyone know the gemini api key switcher extension? I wanna try it for 2.5 pro
this is stupid, I like it
>>42512812https://github.com/MLPChag/ST-GeminiKeySwitcher
>>42512931Thanks
What is the best prompt processing for Claude?
Succed up three pieces of alicorn essence into my mind and passed out. Celestia's piece doesn't approve of my daydreams.
>>42512439Kek. Draw it again.
>>42513220>150 Do you summarize, or is the model still good for now?
>>42513318I summarize every 30-40k tokens or so. That's my 9th chat for this story.
>>42513108None
Fingers crossed, I'm not having problem with free Gemini right now.
Deepseek feels so substandard, but it's been the only thing I can get to consistently work since chary died.
>>42513585It has been stable for me too.
>>42513698Model? That's a nice log.
>>42513698Kino log. Still never uploading, though.
>>42513832Completely agree.
>>42513722sonnet 3-7>>42513832>>42513893you're coming, by rope or flaxen cord
>>42513904ANARCHY IN THE *insert country here*.>I'll die first! Hopefully.
>>42513357>>42513318What's the best way to summarize a chat for the AI?
>>42513698Battle behind and battle ahead but for a moment, peace
>>42514052NTA, but I use.https://rentry.org/how2claude#summarization
hi. how are things at proxy field? last time i was here it was a downfall of everything, no keys no proxies. current sekrit clubs that open for invites?
>>42514595>>42503515>>42503457
>>42514600arigato
Gemini got fixed
>>42514052I just prompt (OOC: Pause roleplay. Recap the events of the story so far.)Claude needs a minimum word limit added to that or it gives a reeeally short cliff notes version in my experience.
>>42513293Was meant for >>42512845
>>42503452Fixing the overlapping sprites on Dashie took longer than I thought. With a new main version coming out soon, I figure it's best to just wait, see how everything is implemented there, and then make any additions I want after a week or two.
Stupid ideas:>Send the request to random LLM each request>Send the request to all LLMs and have one pick the best response>Randomly swap out the LLM during a response
>>42515132I'm not sure about the feasibility of the latter two, but I am all for LLM roulette.
>>42515132>>42515149https://github.com/notstat/SillyTavern-SwipeModelRoulette
>>42508866The bottom-most option is the so bad>((OOC: The writing style/genre should be dark comedy, with some spicy sexuality to it.))completely forgets how ponies behave and makes some characters into aggressive rapists in the first few responses (without handholding)
New Bread>>42515304>>42515304>>42515304
>>42515285Yeah, I wouldn't use it for regular characters. I wrote that specifically for my vampire Cozy story.
