Previous Thread:https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42907096Discuss:>Work on any pony and/or tech related projects (You) are working on or learnt about recently.>Post (You)r pony themed technology (desktops/rices, papes, new devices, software ponies)>What software and technology do (You) use? (Email, Git, OSes, Messaging, Monero, etc...)
>>42990882It's probably wise to keep these threads monthly considering how quick they were to die. If this one goes down, wait some time before making the next one, preferably until next month or something. You do you Anonymous.
It's finally back! I'm the one who said I would install Gentoo around Chtistmas, it's a bit late but my upgrade arrived finally, and I'm not sure if I should do it I'm on Fedora now, I have everything set up and ready to use. Try convince me or something idk I'll do it around April thoughbeit when the university term ends since it's the only device I actually use even if I could set up another desktop or laptop. >>42990882Is this PonyOS or just a DE I don't recognise
>>42990885>It's probably wise to keep these threads monthly>>42991001>It's finally back!The duality of Anon.
>>42991001You don't need to if fedora just works for you. Use a VM or something if you want to dip your toes in. Gentoo is sortof neat if you want to learn more about the parts that make up a distro.t. Gentoo userAlso>It's finally backThis. Now I get to gush over finally getting STAX'ed after so long, kek.Picked me up a SRM 1 MK2 for a cheap price as well.And I also had time to give my Thinkpad t480 heads. Literally. Now I wish everything had heads or at the very least coreboot.
>>42990885>considering how quick they were to dieI don't think that's the case with this threadI mean, I assume that last time was just bad luck (sometimes indirectly dragged down by a sliderfag) and that it was the holiday season.It's not like this was a bumpfest before that, I remember it being more active than other generals.
>>42991001pretty sure PonyOS doesn't have Wifi or BT, (or any of the other listed programs) So i'd guess it's some themed DE
>>42990882>Haikubased
>>42991173>>42991001>they don't know how Haiku looks likengmi
>>42991230>>42991279>>42991001It's XFCE themed to be like BeOS/Haiku.https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6702&p=4Pretty bizarre forum as there are people using screenfetch already back in 2010, way ahead of the reddit linux trend and in general people having desktop threads since 2006. It is weird to see it so early on, at least for me as I always felt it was a trend made up around 2012+. Anyhow, most screenshots are dead, however there are a few ones in 2007 threads that are still hosted on photobucket.
>>42990882Cool to see the thread again.Not much to brag about, slowly chipping away at other tasks, in hopes of getting to pony projects within this century. A Pebble watch face with time change animations heavily inspired by FiM intro sequence sounds delightful. ETA the next year of cartoon horse.Very glad that KurobaEx guy came back to fix captcha and work on the app a bit again.>>42990885I do believe a bit of time to breathe helps this general, in general.>>42991610That's a good find, anon.>arch captchacool
>>42991668>KurobaEx guy came back to fix captchaskill issue
2 months after daily driving KDE it randomly started lagging and crashing its processes like the taskbar would simply freeze, disappear and reappear after 10 secondsback to xfce. The only issue I might have is lack of good screen scaling on X11, although on Wayland it's weird, because some programs were displaying unscaled as if they were standard windows in 1920x1080 environment even though the scaling made it look like 720p.It's great how I don't need to nuke my entire OS files and settings, just getting by with installing a different DE and then uninstalling the other one after changing session. Years of using Windows didn't make such concepts cross my mind.
What is the best cheapest computer I can get to emulate PS2 smoothly? I still daily drive T420.
Why is Android such a piece of shit on chink phones? Motorola, Xiaomi, Poco, Oppo, all of them have very user hostile ads integrated into the system. Samshit is tamer but not as good as say Moto G5 in 2017. Is it this bad on iPhone?
I’ve got two SSDs:1TB WD Black SN770128GB Patriot P300Currently Fedora KDE is installed on the 1TB drive (500GB partition, and other 500GB empty used to have WinGlows but I never used it so I just deleted it but I can't expand the partition while booted I need to go into a Live ISO and I'm only using 90G/488 available), I’m planning to hop to Nobara KDE (comes with codecs/drivers, and apparently it's good for playing WinGlows games o algo)Would it be better to:A) Install Nobara on the 128GB SSD and move all my data to a partition in the free space in the 1TB SSD then delete fedora and expand the partition to 1TB data only (or /home)orB) Install Nobara on the 1TB SN770 and move all my torrents and data to the 128GB drive?Also open to other distro recommendations, I don't game much right now but I want to start gaming more since I just upgraded my PC>>42992574idk if it can emulate PS2 but T480 since it supports all the schizo stuff like libreboot and heads (and QubesOS?) o algot. noob so I could be wrong
>>42993146no ads on ios but I think 26 the latest one do have something that can be considered adson older ones it does have like "ads" telling you to subscribe to icloud in settings if you count that
>>42993316Debian XFCE
>>42993709why would you even recommend XFCE to someone who uses KDE
>>42993316If you mainly care about gaming, I'd recommend you don't bother and just install the whole os onto your nvme SSD and use your 128gb ssd as extra storage for whatever. It'll boot and perform faster.For distros nobara is okay. CachyOS would also work. Or if you really don't wanna tinker with anything bazzite is fine.>>42992574Haven't tested it but I guess T480 should be okay. Else you can pick up a cheap NUC like clone thing with an amd APU kinda like the steam deck and that will be pretty great.
>>42993316I tried nobara on the 128, I don't really like it I think I'm just going to stay on the same system for now, I can't be bothered to back everything up and reinstall and then sign in to everything again
>>42992065I know the stigma around passu, but I wouldn't mind at least slightly supporting this place, only because it's where ponies happened to come from. Unfortunately after the hack, I'm very disappointed in the evidenced negligence in security department.
>>42995067they spent an absurd amount of money on anti-proxy measures against "Hoofman", I'm not sure if they can even afford it in the long run kek
>>42995067also>security>departmentit's just desuwa
>>42990882so what's our stance on technology n equestria? is there electricity? television? radio?
>>42990882What would be the simplest way to get an FM/AM transmitter that would get audio from my PC to all the radio receivers across the house? I have a bunch of chink radios that are powered either by AA batteries or through USB, and they're quite convenient however all radio stations play dogshit music and more ads than music, or politics, whatever.I don't need a far radius, say around 10 meters from the computer proximity is something I need, if I can get more, that's even better. I assume it'd be something that I'd plug into the audio jack and USB for power, or maybe just USB if it can handle audio. I'm using Linux, but I'm not opposed of setting up a Windows computer for just that. Hell, if possible, I could use an old smartphone for that if there were no software caveats and the audio would get over to the transmitter by just the headphone jack.I did no prior research on this topic, so I'm in the blank here, expected to be spoonfed.
>>42995531managed to find something called FM D5W2. For some reason the market is flooded only with car FM transmitters.
>>42995531Thanks for reminding me that Nokia N900 had hardware for it built-in. I miss that phone.
>>42995773Really now? I wonder how far that worked, I guess around 5 meters without any walls?FM transmission is rather iffy considering some country laws forbidding citizens from transmitting over these frequencies.
>>42995894Worked within a car, that much I can tell you. Could've been fun to jam a popular station for one car next to you with pony tunes instead.Check out one of the kits they sent this phone in, I haven't seen anything else like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=324t0R9NSZk Funny how people blame the uploaded for reposting the video, meanwhile now this is the only copy I could find quickly.
>page 10don't die on me now
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>>42998330>putting Dashie in front of that jumpscare maze game
>>42993709I'm doing it.It's called Trixie, it's a sign.>>42993814I'm not married to any specific DE, GNOME KDE and XFCE all fine by me
>>42999124Why is it so slow to bootAlso got this error on Fedora 43 KDE and Debian 13 fresh installs:RDSEED32 is broken. Disabling the corresponding CPUID bit.What causes this and is it related to why it takes so long to boot.My drive is encrypted of course if that is relevant.
>>42999231>RDSEED32 is brokenDid you... come inside Rainbow Dash, by any chance? If so, I'm so sorry anon, go see a doctor at your earliest convenience.
>>42999124And the previous version was called Bookworm, go figure. Even though the releases are after Toy Story characters, having Trixie come after Bookworm is quite a coincidence.>>42999231Apparently it's microcode issue. Update bios or assume your CPU is dying. A friend had a Ryzen system that randomly had BSODs.
>>42999262Oh shit it's over for me
>>42999268new pc with latest bios AMD strix halo 385
>>42999287Well, newest doesn't mean the best nowadays, a lot of consumers end up as bet testers. Too many people complain to me about AMD being unstable. Debian might be a wrong choice for this though, since it has Kernel from mid 2025.
>>42999287https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=310214https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/linux-firmware/-/issues/34How recent is the BIOS? Last year AMD had a microcode signing vulnerability discovered, so they've modified stuff(TM), and now to load newer microcode from the OS level, you need the microcode loader within BIOS updated too.>tfw microcode loader micropony loading the microcode bit by bit with her micropony microhoof
>>429993079th Dec 2025FW DesktopIt seems I can ignore this error, as far as I know it might not even be what's causing the long startup timeOther than installing Librewolf any recommendations for my fresh install? Does XFCE not have a Clock app for like timers and stopwatch, KDE didn't either I downloaded the GNOME Clock app.I saw someone with RD as their CPU cores in some sort of task manager thing, was that XFCE and if so how can I do it. Is there a way to get pre made themes and are there any good ones, pony themed or not.
>>42999335XFCE is pretty barebones, you need to download separate software for that, but that's kind of what makes it stable and easy to maintain by both the developers and end users.. don't know what else I can tell you. It's not a fully fledged DE like KDE, GNOME or Cinnamon. For example I think it's still impossible to set something as trivial as date through GUI. You need to do it through terminal. It's silly, but it's how it is.
>>42999392and there's no volume widget, and my keyboard shortcut doesn't work for some reasonmight try thishttps://github.com/rozniak/xfce-winxp-tc
I stick my pee pee onto my cpu
>>42999444checked
>>42999402There should be a volume widget, I use Debian XFCE on my laptops and I can see the volume level as a notification. Keyboard shortcuts are configurable for everything.
>>42999335>FW Desktopsigh, they are a bit slow on those updates two Zen 4 FW13s here, and it seems someone already complained about this issue on their forum, but the thread OP noticed it on FW13 with Zen 5 mobo, rather than Desktop. Might be good to ask support about this, if the firmware is indeed to blame.IIRC systemd-blame could help figure out slow boot times, also you can boot the system without "quiet splash" kernel parametrs and get more verbose logs.>RD as their CPU coresPutting the "eventually consistent" in non-distributed systems too, I see.>>42999444>tfw pinka po's cartoon physics allow her to perform extraordinarily well as thermal compoundGood on you, nonny. Checked.
What release of the MLP G4 Movie is the highest quality or highest bitrate?
>>43000479Masochist
>>42999335Yeah you can ignore it. I had this one for a bit before updating my BIOS was causing slow boot time too as I'm assuming the kernel does a lot of checks to asses whether rdsneed is broken
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>>43000103functional programming feels like something only ponka would do
>>43001201I disagree, it's no fun unless there's at least 3 side effects in every functionpure functions are booring
>>42992574i miss my t420, ran a good 4-6 hours of battery life, dual graphics on my model, great screen, classic keyboard, thinklight, and the only drawback was that it was a bit heavyi still have it but it just gets "kernal panics" after i spilled some water on the touchpad/keyboard and now i cant click anything even with a usb mouse
Anyone tried one of these laptop panel drivers? How much current could it draw on average?My old laptop stopped charging the battery because the powerbrick is "too weak" suddenly and now I don't have any computer where I don't care if it's stolen. (I tried to use android phone with BT keyboard but I'd probably rather kill myself than try to use it like that)So I wanted to gut the thing and use the panel with RPI zero and 10 000mAh powerbank but if the driver is gonna eat even half of the required power (12V 3A) then it would last only about one hour which is useless (+ I need to step up 5->12 so additional losses)
>>43001875forgot linkhttps://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009288564057.html
>>42999335>I saw someone with RD as their CPU coresthat was probably me, But it was in gnome-system-monitor that's shipped in cinnamon. I tried to replicate in xfce4 but I don't think it was possible. However I might have had very old version
>>43001758>great screenI assume you had IPS model>kernel panicsReinstall? Assuming you haven't tried changing drives or anything. T420 should be able to withstand water damage, I've seen people drink beer through the drainage holes, however could be a dying motherboard or RAM. Motherboards for these should be cheap, maybe it's possible to swap in a T430 motherboard instead.I recall X220 having poor CPU fan and people swapping X230 one for it instead.
>>42990882What's the best graphics card I get get for cheap for ponies?
>>43002553that Asus card with>20% Cooleron the box
>>43002029>T420 should be able to withstand water damageThe drainage holes were removed on nu-Thinkpad because they barely work.>I've seen people drink beer through the drainage holesLuck dice roll, even a Macbook has as good of a chance to not suvive water damage compared to T420 which equal to God awful.
>>43001875I've actually used something similar at one point. Technically it was an (almost) free display, but the panel itself was terrible and the PCBs would sometimes lose contact if you as much as looked at them wrong, and I had the whole thing strapped to a sophisticated monitor stand made of scrap wood. It's not something that can survive a trip in a backpack.No idea about power draw, depends on backlight level.Just get a cheap used laptop.
>>43003092Crap i wanted to use it in car going real fast on real shit roads. Part of the reason I ditched the phone was because I was jumping so much I couldn't read anything unless I enlarged the text so much I couldn't fit more than 3 lines of text on screen.>Just get a cheap used laptop.I wish, I would take anything that can boot into TTY, but the problem are batteries, no one around here will sell me working laptop with working battery or at price where getting battery elsewhere is worth itI'm sorry for rantig but I'm so pissed. The laptop would work fine, I have another adapter with the exact same specs and exact same connector but It's HP and the laptop is DELL and that motherfucker turns on but refuses to charge because it's not GENUINE DELL adapter
>>42990882Hey anons. Wanted to share progress because I made a thread about this but I guess I vagueposted too hard.I was dicking around with some guys the other night when they informed me of this one russian pony-bot project. I thought, hey, what if you just put a plushie over a robot dog endoskeleton? It'd move like normal, wouldn't it? That's the story of how I am now wrist deep in this potentially up to 5-grand project. I plan to get it done by August. I'm making an animatronic Rainbow Dash. That actually moves with her legs, with motorized eyelids, a head that can turn, mouth that can open and close, and a local LLM & voice synthesizer for speech and conversation. It shouldn't be too hard, since all the technology is there, but the issue is I'm a huge fucking idiot with no idea what I'm doing.I got word back from the chinese robot dog costume company and got photos of a very unrefined mockup. The current issues are that she's very wide and looks like a plank of wood right now, her neck is a little nonexistent, her legs are very stumpy and might move around weird.All of these issues are a result of having to keep the robots naked balancing algorithms steady while having more weight on them or risk having them offbalance and prone to fall over.They closed for Chinese New Year (year of the horse, go figure,) so I won't be able to get any more updates til I pay a 50% deposit on the $2200 they quoted me. The dog itself will be $2600, including duties and shipping, but I'm looking around for a used one. Wish me luck, and I'lll post updates when I get them.
>>43003240>I thought, hey, what if you just put a plushie over a robot dog endoskeleton? It'd move like normal, wouldn't it?Problem with puting plushie over the robot is that the fabric will get damaged very quickly or it gonna look bad. If you don't care about the looks then make it more loose around the joints it will be fine I think.
>>43003250Yes; it's gonna look terrible because the joints will chew on the fabric and such, and also it'd overheat and fucking die immediately.SO THANK GOD that the Chinese have literally everything because I reach out and find one, singular, company that specializes in exactly this.
>>43003240I just had an idea... this could probably be solved by giving her a bigger belly. Right now she looks like the scene after Cupcakes [HD]. Where is her tumtum? Will be there soon. Nothing this down.Also, her chin will be more defined, as per the company. I sent them a reference of this one really good plush by TixeArt and they said they'd try their best.
I'm switching to Windows 10 IOT Enterprise LTSC.Owari da.
>>43003803From 11 I assume.
>>43003867From Fedora 43 / Debian 13 (for less than one day)I'm the goy with the new motherboard (+soldered APU and RAM)AMD RYZEN AI MAX 385 w/ Radeon 8050S with 16GB system ram and 16GB vram (I can reduce this which would increase system RAM, it's 32GB shared)How bad would using windows 10 IoT be compared to Windows 11 IoTI really don't want to use Windows 11 any version they are worse aids
it's awesome the chinks has just as much cons as the US this year
>>43003995Should be fine although won't surprise me if ayymd made some artificial limitation and it's only possible to use on the latest Win 10 build which isn't LTSC, iirc its last compilation was in 2023
>>43003868>there are anons on /mlp/ that use inline extension instead of 4chan-x(t)how many of you have userscripts while browsing 4chan?
>>43003173...why can't you just buy a new DELL power brick?
>>43004330It's expensive, the laptop is from ~2009 I can get original for ~30$ fake for ~20$ or beaten up used one for ~$15Problem with used one is that I have no way of knowing whether it will also refuse to charge (the charger usually works fine otherwise) which is a problem that seems quite common for these laptops
>>43003173Used laptops usually have dead batteries. That's good since you can buy it cheaper on average. Original used chargers in good condition cost around $15 here, and that's for 135w. 90w or 65w come cheaper but they're bad for docking station.I daily drive ThinkPad T470 and X260, both have two batteries and they're energy efficient to the point where the fan doesn't even need to be on when doing basic tasks like web browsing. Buying a brand new battery replacement is a must, I get around 10 hours on both batteries total which is really good. The internal one lasts for almost 3 hours, it gives you enough time to swap in another external battery or get home to charge it. T470/X270 also have USB-C charging if you can provide a charging brick with 65w or more, so it's likely possible to charge them from car too. These laptops should come relatively cheap since no one wants them as they're undervolted and has 2 cores, 4 threads. I don't know what's the fuss all about though. I've used Mint Cinnamon, Debian KDE and now Debian XFCE on them all just fine. Wayland can go to hell btw.
>>43001201Is that why I detest OOP?T. Ponka enthusiast
>>43002029i feel kind of retarded saying this, but no, i havent tried a new drive. honestly, when it first happened to me, i guess a part of was subconsciously like >oh no... an excuse to buy a new thinkpad!im notorious for getting bad models, t60P, pixel 6a, etcbut i opted for a x230t, since i could i do my first ever coreboot flash with 1vyrain, and to have a tablet model WITH a light (backlit keyboard)ill try a different drive though
>>43005108damn nonny, try to be less retarded in the future
i can't go back to xfce4i've been on dwm for a little over a month nowi tried to use xfce4 but, i literally feel retardedi genuinely can't see any reason why i should manually drag/resize a window, when dwm can do it for mei guess this is what i'll call home for the foreseeable future
I have to confess. I have become a kubernetes faggot.
>>43005544Checked.How long have you been using it, in what scenarios, and what do you think about it? In my case:>4 years>deploying webshit, cloud AKS and onprem RKE2 clusters>don't like high amount of additional tooling necessary to do "basic" things; like that it became the almost universal "Linux API" standard (managing shit is overall better than with homegrown e.g. Ansible roles imho)I wonder what new wonderful standard of doing the same shit but it's different this time (/s but not really) we'll get in 10 years.
>>430055901 year along my journey so far. I blame work for pushing me into it, but then I saw the light. Fell for k3s, but have to endure with my idiot coworker that still wants to use the legacy microk8s clusters, bitnami charts and ingress. I want to throw him out of the window. He also can't do anything outside argocd.I'm an sbc fag so I'm currently working on a cluster across various devices for my home shit. Rpi3's, some older odroid things. Have to build some things myself, as most images haven't been made for armv7.Bit of a long tangent after I just wanted to deploy bookstack and heptapod in a home cluster.
>>43005626>k3sDecent choice, in my experience so far, as RKE2 shares plenty with it.>microk8sNever used it, got burned one too many times by Snap just autoupdating LXD and breaking some prod somewhere.>bitnami chartsTell him about the rugpull. https://github.com/bitnami/charts/issues/35164This is one of those things I consider "additional tooling", and the drama reminded me to switch to using upstream charts (when available) and hoof-written tiny charts for smaller shit.>ingressingress-nginx, I assume? I'm still considering what other implementation to switch to, given the deprecation in less than a month. I'd be happy to pass something to my coworkers, mentioning that it was recommended to me by an anonymous pony poster on a Mongolian underwater basket weaving forum.>He also can't do anything outside argocd.My condolences.To other anons reading: I promise Kubernetes isn't like frontend development, with 5 frameworks abandoned every month and 10 new created to replace those. Usually the ecosystem is sane enough to be maintained by one person (or a pony!). Honestly I have a love-hate relationship with it, sometimes it feels like overengineered rocket science for cases where docker compose could be sufficient, but the more things I need to add to such compose-based projects, the closer I get to reimplementing K8s but worse. Can't see myself migrating away from it for now, despite maintenance toil it introduces by e.g. some of that additional tooling getting upgrades released multiple times a day sometimes. Buck thou, ArgoCD community chart and Renovate.Still better than using Ansible as default tool, which doesn't track state of tasks deleted from your playbooks, so you need to litter those with "state: absent" until you're sure you've ran that on all servers applicable.>tfw ansible pone>state: present and looking at (You) intently>hoof always ready to flip switches and tuck templated files in the right places>pedantic about spaces and pretty names on her todo checklist>enjoys the logistics of shipping snakes internationally>can be either an excellent multitasker, or woefully lazy>sometimes forgets to delete things unless you remind her to do that, unlike her sister, terraform pone>more stable if her home is a virtualenv, with all the pet snakes and toolkits in the same place>she hopes that one day you'll give her an infrastructure standardized enough so that she'll trot around lots of servers and dutifully write "changed: 0, ok: 1337"
Current plans:>Shut down my Windows 10 computer and install the latest updates (yes this is a problem because I have annoying OCD)>Backup the data I still have on my new Windows 11 PC so I can wipe it clean>Install the latest version of Linux Mint on that system>Do some configuration or stuff, I dunno>Install Tor and Monero and the P2P mining software>Mine some Monero to buy a KYC-free eSIM with>Register some for-funsies accounts with it that aren't tied to my real identity>Buy an RX 9060 XT 16GB and install it in the system>Install some more advanced software to gen sloppa with than what I can find in online generators>Maybe start working on some place to share pony sloppa with each other that doesn't have shit moderationLast point might not come to pass unless my health improves significantly.
>>43005885Guy knows about the rugpull. We all know vmware/broadcom flipped a 180 with bitnami, but after he kept complaining and had meetings with our manager, I've had to make legacy microk8s clusters with all the usual bitnami charts adjusted to use a bitnamilegacy repository.I am really just venting, sorry, but I spent good time setting up k3s with Traefik sorted and all the usual tools deployed outside helm charts, even wrote a manager to handle an etcd deployment properly, and then he bitches that he has to change his helm charts to use httproute instead of ingress, and the services don't have -bitnami appended anymore. Fucking dipshit then has the gall to keep asking me for help when ingress keeps shitting itself. I still have no fucking clue how ingress accepts connections from outside the cluster, when there is no loadbalancer service, like the likes of traefik has running.Anyway, rage aside, i am a paradoxical weirdo who loves kubernetes by now, but have zero interest in docker on its own.
>>43005949I literally didn't understand anything of what you just said. I guess this thread operates on a level beyond my capabilities.
>>43005960Sorry! Kubernetes shit is hell of a drug.
>>43006011Don't apologize, it's my fault for being tech illiterate at least on here.
>>43005960Don't worry anon, it's just incoherent rambling that starts making sense only if you're a masochist, work with servers, and want to eventually make your waifu proud in Equestria by showing her your 99.9999999% uptimes, with nines that instinctively are checked by every passerby pony or anon. It can be a lot of work to achieve this, or even just 99%, and I'd say modern software isn't necessarily more reliable than older projects.If you're a normal ponyfag who likes tech, this thread seems like a good place to lurk and post too.>>43005949I'm so sorry. Legacy infrastructure goes very hard, but I'd focus on the pains of sticking with what sounds like plenty of hacks instead of planning a migration. Been there for 3 years. Sure, it works now, but it will be increasingly annoying to maintain, or you'll get some CVE to frantically patch out from those abandoned images. Putting this in writing can help cover your ass later.>even wrote a manager to handle an etcd deployment properlyTell me more, do you run separate nodes for etcd and separate for k8s control plane?>and then he bitches that he has to change his helm charts to use httproute instead of ingressThat's fair and I'd bitch too, majority of 3rd party charts I use still create Ingress resources only. I'm considering Traefik partially because it implements both Gateway API and the older Ingress API, so I'll be able to soften the shock for myself and my team. Check the docs how to enable both APIs, it also has some CRD based config source but you won't need that.>and the services don't have -bitnami appended anymorekek, that's a bit silly. Does this mean he needs to rewrite some configuration, or what's the precise pain point here?>I still have no fucking clue how ingress accepts connections from outside the cluster, when there is no loadbalancer service, like the likes of traefik has running.I'd bet on nodePort or hostNetwork enabled on ingress(-nginx, right?) controller pods, or manual iptables mess to port forward to pod IP.Is the other guy higher in seniority than (You)?>zero interest in docker on its own.I'd encourage you to get some experience with it. Starting from higher levels of abstraction hides from you what problems you would encounter without the abstraction, and knowing those helps understand why some decisions were made while developing the abstraction.>>43005937Have fun, anon.Windows 10 no longer gets security updates unless you pay or massgravel the ESU.Usual concerns about hosting user generated (manually created or AI-generated) content apply.
>>43006039>Windows 10 no longer gets security updates unless you pay or massgravel the ESU.Yeah I'm using the ESU hack. I actually had switched over to Linux before (Ubuntu) years ago but started using W10 again just as a "quick" install but this install has persisted for almost 5 years now. Needed certain applications you can only get on Windows back then but now I'm just going to either use Wine or a VM (for stuff I don't use much, such as Acrobat, probably the latter).Also learned recently that Mint has dropped support for ZFS with their current release which is somewhat annoying because I wanted to try that, but at least now I won't be using it and suddenly get caught during the update with a deprecated software package. I guess I'll just try it out on another machine that's going to serve for dedicated backups.
>>43006039>do you run separate nodes for etcd and separate for k8s control plane?In k3s itself, I just have 4 control plane + etcd master nodes, I haven't bothered to separate them, and 2 worker nodes.The microservices my colleague has made relies on etcd for our own stuff. The bitnami and etcd's own charts and manifests didn't handle scaling automatically, so you had to edit the cmd args in the stateful set to make sure the new nodes are recognized with enough luck. Etcd is really tedious and seems to shit itself more often than not when you try to scale it up and down. Easy example being when scalling down hard, then the existing nodes starts screaming hard enough you can't etcdctl in to delete the removed members.I made an operator/manager thing that just kinda handles all that, respecting the statefulset size.>That's fair and I'd bitch tooHe only has two-three very simple deployments. It's not a giant production solution I want to up-end. I could write the new httproutes and get it working, it would take 5-10 minutes and that it, but noooo. The precise pain points was boiled down to that his helm charts had to be adjusted, yet he hasn't even tamed ingress completely to begin with. Anyway. Yeah he does have higher seniority.I already approve of traefik. We only have 2 or 3 microservices of our own deployed, so by being the kubernetes responsible, the sole DevOps, i more or less made the executive decision to switch to k3s and ditch the outdated ingress system. But we live in a society we work as a team, so it can only get so far.>I'd bet on nodePort or hostNetworkNo nodeports, just clusterip across the board. I haven't checked the hostNetwork option, that does sound the most likely. The ingress-nginx controllers are on each node with daemonset after all.What would I get from messing around with docker, that I wouldn't get from jyst launching pods in my cluster?
>>43005949>Loves kubernetes>zero interest in docker on its ownWait until you try podman. It's like docker and kubernetes. Here's the kicker it seems extremely simple but it'll do everything to fuck you in the ass, is barely documented and some features work completely differently based on what version your package manager decided to ship .It's really great at doing rootless containers, and quadlets are great when systemd doesn't shit itself. It's great, try it t. masochist
>>43004256>test it>no support for clipboard imageshow the fuck do people use 4chan with native extension?
pomf.lain.la will be kill
>>43007408I downloaded podman, just so I can build images. I like the distributed nature of kubernetes, how everything is described in manifests and i don't have to sweat how and where the containers deploy, nor how the networking is handled.Deploying containers manually and locally on a single machine, just doesn't appeal to me with the overhead and the added complexity in interacting with whatever application deployed.But I'll completely admit I might just be weird on that front. I might just not have seen the bright idea yet.
>>43007502Fair, kek.For me it's the opposite I find it too messy to have to look through manifests. I don't like abstraction, in general, in my workflows. I just tend to completely forget how I set stuff up, kek.I might give kubernetes a more proper go at some point, though I just don't have a bunch of nodes to manage.Guess it doesn't help I don't like doing anything that's not onprem either, kek.
>>43006067>no ZFS on Mintmotherfucker I was gonna try that too. oh well I know that there are other programs for that that exist and that are supposedly better. but still
>>43007518I use k9s to get an overview and make small edits to whatever resources, it made working with k8s, dare I say it, a little fun. Then I have my little library of manifest files for different deployments and our confluence wiki where I document every single step of anything I do.I've only done on-prem as well, k3s, autok3s to deploy and expand clusters. It's heaven compared to canonicals homebrew k8s.We use ansible too for a lot of things, or abuse ansible, in the case of my coworkers. More raw and shell tasks than any using any real modules.
>>43007538Pretty sure they only removed the zfs root install option?Just put your home directory on zfs and you will get 90% of the benefits. System rollbacks are mostly a meme.
I wish for a trixie-fied debian 13 wallpaper.
>>43008424fuck take me back
>>43008424>where the fuck is my browser? i need to make these damn icons even bigger... anyway, its 14 degrees today!why the fuck are these icons so big kek
https://www.rapid7.com/blog/post/tr-chrysalis-backdoor-dive-into-lotus-blossoms-toolkitA rather curious choice of names, wouldn't you say?>>43007992There you go Anon:>>42786511 https://twibooru.org/3592252
I realized that the only reason I moved from Mint to Debian was KDE. Now that I'm back on XFCE, I don't see the point to continue using Debian. A lot of things are missing like Bluetooth manager or MTP, which were shipped by default on Mint XFCE.
>>43009257>Reinstalled whole OS because wanted to change DE>About to reinstall again because some programs were not installed by defaultI really don't get it. Or the concept of distro hopping in general. The only part of a distro that matters is what packages are available in the official repos and which versions of them. Installing and switching to some other DE is so much simpler than starting from scratch.
>>43009469For your information Mint lacked newest KDE and it still ships with 5.27 or something in the repo, and officially it's unsupported. Debian has 6.3 with Wayland. I wanted to see what's the fuss about, lasted for 2 months. Decided to install XFCE on the existing install and it worked, but strange things have started happening like icons in tray refusing to show up or my power manager malfunctioning. The system likely still had some KDE leftovers. So I tried clean XFCE install just to see how barebones it is since it lacked utilities. On Mint they're already preinstalled so it's less of a hassle.I'm not guilty of anything, let me be.
>>43009469I hopped over to Debian 13 from Popos, popos being horribly outdated, based on ubuntu 22. Also annoyed that gnome lacks a lot of features and settings options, and I can't be arsed with their brewing cosmic rust cocksuckery.
>>43009469>I really don't get it. Or the concept of distro hopping in general.Let the kids play before their souls are crushed by the reality of the state of open source. What better way to learn the Linux ecosystem?
>>43004005as many cons but on a much smaller scale, most of them are 1 room with around 30 attendees over 1 day with no guests, concerts or charity auctionit's still comfy but really has more the feel of a large meetup than a con
>>43009489By all means, experiment with distros all you want if you have the time. Maybe it's just my weird way of "research and test in VM first, install second". Of course there are some things (mostly drivers) that cannot be tested in VM.>strange things have started happeningOk fair, this does make clean install sound reasonable, though I can't recall if I ever had such issues (I think at some point I jumped from KDE to Cinnamon to awesomeWM on the same install. The thing that made me reinstall in the end was my own fault messing up .Xresources that fucked up DPI settings and somehow couldn't be reverted).
>>43010536So even their meetups have early fandom sovl
>>43006190>I just have 4 control plane + etcd master nodes, I haven't bothered to separate them3 would provide you the same reliability as 4, since etcd (or rather Raft) leader election blah blah blah.>relies on etcd for our own stuffInteresting, I haven't seen a reason to make etcd a hard dependency of anything, except K8s and stuff like db operators with automatic failover, but even then the stuff which needs leader election often reuses K8s for this instead of another etcd/zookeeper/the like.Sounds like NDA, but otherwise I'd be curious to hear what you're actually running on these.>his helm charts had to be adjusted, yet he hasn't even tamed ingress completely to begin with. Anyway. Yeah he does have higher seniority.kek, oh well. Such "politics" at work aren't pleasant to participate in. Hand (hoof?) him a fixed chart with both httproutes and ingresses toggled via values, and if you are indeed "the" devops guy, your concerns should matter too. Sometimes it's just easier to do someone's job for them to unblock yours, rather than having to persuade them first.>The ingress-nginx controllers are on each node with daemonset after all.yeah, if that's the case then check if you were also exposing the admission webhook port to the internet while it was vulnerable to https://kubernetes.io/blog/2025/03/24/ingress-nginx-cve-2025-1974/. Fun stuff.>What would I get from messing around with dockerI'll put this another way, here's what I gained appreciation for when I went Docker -> K8s:>Service abstractionhaproxy shutting down stops processing new connections but stays running for a while until all are closed or timeout is reached. This meant when I wanted to update haproxy, I'd have some downtime which was annoying enough to remember.>Probes combined with ServicesSure, Docker has healthchecks too, and haproxy can check that if you don't forget to add it in config, but K8s made this more universal => common.>Ingress APIIt's nice that you can have different actual reverse proxies and they're all configured from the same abstracted resources, although it still sucks I needed a lot of ingress-nginx specific annotations. I wonder if Gateway API will be a less leaky abstraction.Off top of my head, that's about it. Similarly I wouldn't tell someone interested in homelabbing to immediately start with Debian/Ubuntu + docker compose (although that's arguably my best recommendation for average home server, for now). Live through the pain of apt install everything on one system, then through VMs, then LXCs, then Docker, then K8s. At each point you can see the tradeoffs you make to get some advantages, and that makes you less likely to default to K8s when nginx on VPS could be just fine.>>43007408Hi anon. Here's a complimentary hug from a butterhorse.
>>43007477I saw anons in /fast/ claim they've saved the pony from there. That's reassuring.>>43007502>I like the distributed nature of $softwareI don't mean to be condescending, but at some point you won't. It's incredible learning about new failure modes you didn't even think of before, when considering adding an inherently unreliable network to a computer system. Sometimes the tradeoffs are worth it, sometimes not really.This made me reevaluate my pursuit of HA services on my home servers. I don't need zero downtime switchover for my Postgres, I eventually realized all I want is to quickly stop it, sync ZFS dataset to other server, and start the db there instead. I don't need cloudnative-pg (looks cool tho) and hope distributed consensus never fucks up and decides new writes should go to a replica that's way behind. Or that the primary needs to be overwritten with contents from a replica, which happened to a friend apparently.This quote, apparently from Paul Barham, is pretty great:>You can have a second computer once you’ve shown you know how to use the first one.It's humbling. I don't want to make a cheap laugh off average SaaS webdevs, as every day I find out I'm more retarded than I thought myself, but let me tell you they don't always realize they're developing distributed systems, when they do. The bets they subconsciously place on network, on system clock, etc. eventually kick (You) in the ass.And you eventually start fancying boring technology for your infrastructure instead. It's not a bad thing.>Deploying containers manually and locally on a single machine, just doesn't appeal to me with the overhead and the added complexity in interacting with whatever application deployed.That's why I suggested you fuck around with Docker first. Feel the pain. Try to orchestrate it semi-manually with e.g. Ansible. Realize that you want to connect those containers across multiple servers. Learn Linux networking well, without eBPF CNIs. You'll appreciate what Kubernetes et al. solves for you, in exchange for being a very complex (and distributed) system underneath.
>>43007518If this is just a home or small business scenario, don't push yourself towards K8s. You'll feel at some point that even Podman doesn't cut it, and then it'll make sense to consider the former.For example, the stuff I listed in previous post is annoying even on a single node. I run 3 nodes at home and 1 at parents house, and I opted for K8s there too, mostly just to unify my stuff. A VPS running reverse proxy is just apt install haproxy, because at this point I don't need more there.It's all about tradeoffs.>>43007561>k9sExcellent piece of software. Helped me get rid of Lens altogether. gif from previous post was supposed to go with this reply. at least it's not 2k character limit like /g/ has.>>43007972qt>>43006636>tfw ignored distropone>>43008424cute; feels like ricing Windows desktops like this became less popular.>>43008981I wonder how many ponyfags are in each tech niche. There's that meme that IT is ran by furfags, but I believe ponies grant one enough autism to work in IT too.>>43009489>Mint lacked newest KDE and it still ships with 5.27 or something in the repo, and officially it's unsupported.Personally I treat Mint as the dedicated distro if you want to use Cinnamon, with everything else better suited by *ubuntu.>>43009469>Installing and switching to some other DE is so much simpler than starting from scratch.I haven't done this in a while, but years ago installing Gnome and KDE could get you a funky-looking UI, thanks to dotfiles from those somehow getting mixed. Like KDE has a distinctly-KDE theme for GTK programs, but Gnome obviously brings its own too. >distro hoppingMaybe there should be fewer distros. A few opinionated ones for a normal person (sharing a common base, like *ubuntus), a few with novel approaches (e.g. NixOS/Guix for their packaging), and some one DIY meta-distribution like Gentoo. Would there be a reason for Arch to exist in such timeline? Wouldn't a Gentoo with precompiled binary repos be good enough?>>43009934cute suseponeI've tried to like her but never found a reason to keep her on my puters>>43010826percussive maintenance pone
>>43011682Mint is good with Cinnamon but also good with MATE or XFCE. Ubuntu family is weird, I tried Xubuntu back when 22 and 24 released respectively, and also Kubuntu earlier in 2025 and all of them had some Canonical services that kept on constantly spitting errors.Another thing to note is how Ubuntu forces Snap down your throat, as deb packages aren't maintained in their repo anymore. This is a concern for disk space since installing Audacity alone took 600MB from Snap. This doesn't happen on Mint.
>>43011677You say a lot of pretty words, and I already appreciate kubernetes for what it solves, but none of that matters, as I found the bpftrace pony.https://github.com/bpftrace/bpftrace/issues/1001https://www.brendangregg.com/Slides/eBPF_SIGCOMM24.pdf
>>43011616>Hi anon. Here's a complimentary hug from a butterhorse.Cheers to that, no clue where that comes from but as my waifu and the butter horse share a VA I'll call it a win!>>43011682>If this is just a home or small business scenario, don't push yourself towards K8s.Oh anon.. you have no idea how autistic I can get, kek. I'm the type that makes up their own home lab in VMs when bored, from router to firewall and CI pipeline.But so far I've always been using compose and compose swarm with the odd podman stuff. I tried k3s a couple of times but every time I thought it was just not useful for what I am doing. Ironically it's too convenient just writing a couple helm charts, makes me completely forget it all once it's setup and that's no fun.Although I really loved having a proper CNI plugin. No seriously why doesn't docker have that by default? I have to make so much spaghetti so stacks can almost kinda barely talk to each other.>A VPS running reverse proxy is just apt install haproxy,Really now? I mean yes haproxy is absolutely amazing. But I'm surprised you didn't go balls deep in traefik. It's a really nifty too, easy HA, crowdsec plugin, and okayish syntax.
>>43011616I just like having 4, so 3 are still running when I restart the host machines one at a time.>I haven't seen a reason to make etcd a hard dependency of anythingI have no clue why someone in the department thought they wanted to distribute config settings with etcd, apparently that is what it is good for or something, but I didn't care and it's not my place to make an issue out of it. I just deployed it and at the first go exploded k3s. Protip, don't use the same 2379 port for you stuff, that k3s uses for its internal etcd. I stayed up until 4 to fix it.>Hand (hoof?) him a fixed chart with both httproutes and ingresses toggled via valuesBossman decided on a compromise of me setting up legacy clusters. Fine, but I refuse to work on it after I get it working. Anything new is off limits, but I know how it goes in this. A temporary ducttape solution becomes a permanent solution until it breaks and a new ducttape solution is made.>check if you were also exposing the admission webhook portI think the dipshit just "accidentally" deleted the loadbalancer service. Making it again, he had fuckall clue about the pod selectors in the service manifest he had nicked somewhere online and started praising gemini when it told him to fix said selectors. It's gonna be fine, but these last weeks, he has been the factor draining my enjoyment at the job.>here's what I gained appreciation for when I went Docker -> K8sI mean sure, but as stated in the other post, I already appreciate k8s, I don't see why I need your journey through the circles of hell before arriving at k8s.It's not like I want to replace everything with k8s. Everything has its place. Personally I just want to build a cluster of odroid spc's to handle some of the personal things I want running, and I don't need to remember on which of the 20 boards I got webserver xyz running.>Gateway APII'll keep beating the drum about traefik. The only hurdle is getting the initial values figured out, then the Gateway resources are really smooth to work with. Oh and their own CRD's aren't too shabby either for things that are still experimental in Gateway API, like TCPRoute and UDPRoute.
>>43011963As a more open subject to the thread, so far my interest in computery things has moved a little past hosting things to run and more towards security, basically puting root in the not proverbial at all cuck chair while normal non sudo and non suid users do all the work (which is why now I do more in podman / docker rootless). Hell even my containers don't get to be root.Plus I'm a massive fan of TPM stuff. When microshart doesn't just abuse it for stupid purposes.Ideally i'd be amazing if everything could have their own titan chip + secure enclave (in its own processor, securely away from your SoC / CPU the way it should be) running something like trustyOS.Think about it. No more garbage polkit which works when it feels like it, no more lib secret opening it's ass wide to leak everything.Just you, your cpu, and the cute security mare chip who hooves you secrets / security keys and verifies your entire boot chain for (You).I dunno if its yet possible to use TPM PCRs with containers, but surely should be as simple as mounting the relevant files in there to make your own "secure stable".
>>43012009What is your threat model tho?
>>43012072State-level actors, as it should be for everybody in $current_year.
>>43012072Fluttershy (of the Flutterrape fame) outside my window.>>43012085The Princesses would never!
>>43012072My threat model doesn't need these but my autism demands it. I see no good reason why your cpu should be doing anything security wise. Ever. Leave that off to its own silicon that your cpu can just request from. The only thing here is to insure the firmware running on those security chips is open source and fully upgradable by the end use if a bug pops up.I am very much aware this won't happen due to A. Serving to interest to the companies making these and B. A strong lack of interest in the general public.Yet damn it, a man can dream
>>43012143You obviously have a lot to learn if you think security is achieved by installing security hardware.
>>43012158NTA, but the TPM is actually a pretty decent idea, the problem is just that we don't get to fully control it. Same with Intel's Boot Guard: it would be greatly beneficial to security, as long as the user got to control the key rather than Intel.
>>43007576You're right, I was wrong: ZFS support was not removed with 22.3 but a while ago already with 22 proper. And according to what I gather from reading reports on the Mint forums the kernel modules are still there, so you should still be able to use it, just not as easily as before where it was included in the installer.
>>43012143The autism is strong with this one, bump
>>43012158I absolutely don't think that.I just think the security hardware is cool
>Rev C>Still using devboard footprints>Bypass caps 10mm away from MCU pins>Signal traces cross the whole board and back>1206 passives for some reason>Sent for fab anywaysYeah I'm kind of a dumbass. Evidently i need to stop spinning boards while drunk (my excuse anyways)
/mlp/ desktops ?/mlp/ desktops
>>43013340I'm intrigued. What are you planning for it to do?
>>43013390>Stealth trollingI don't fully disagree though.
>>43013340Why do you need bypass caps if you're using devboards?Also all of the layout bullshit makes no difference under 200MHz and if you're not trying to pass EMC.
>>43013340Oh Christ I thought I was looking at a Linux desktop until I saw "Desktop Window Manager". Oh yuck, that is such poser shit, Microsoft trying to be all "cool" like Linux.
>>43013639Uh, wrong quote. I meant >>43013390 obviously.
>>43013641>he doesn't run ponyfetch on his PCBsfor shame, anon
>>43013547Designing an IoT multi-effects guitar pedal with in-house modulation (from LFOs, randoms, expression pedal, and inference) and support for parallel processing. Not much explicitly pony-related outside of the branding, but maybe I couldl add some pony samples as carriers for the vocoder or implement spectral filtering from pony images or something.>>43013637The caps are there because the scope was reading some vile shit there while prototyping, I think I ended up weeding out the bulk of the noise later but I left them in for redundancy. But you're probably right on both counts; I don't have enough experience with analog to discern between autism and "best practice."
sup /pts/, I'm a guy who posted >>42867334 two threads ago. Currently ordering a xiaomi for the old manWhat's the standard timer for bootloader unlock? Is it based on device's first boot or Mi account creation date?
>>43014055Just wondering, what ROM are you going to load onto it? I'm thinking of getting a new phone myself with eSIM support so I can load a burner SIM onto it that's not linked to my person, but I want a custom ROM for that and the Motorola that I got isn't supported by any recent Android distributions (should've really looked that up first, luckily it was just a cheap one). I'll make the new purchase with the distribution I want to use in mind.
>>43014149>Just wondering, what ROM are you going to load onto it?Lineage with Gapps (probably regular gapps, not microg)
>>43013985now make a serum skin plz
What font do you recommend for XFCE?
>>43014055IIRC it's about a week from mi account creation and bootloader unlock request.It may be two now or something idk they changed their policy to allow less unlocks.>>43014161Adding on there if you wanna go with microG get lineageOS for microG directly else mind the Gapps before first boot works.
>>43014187>It may be two now or something idk they changed their policy to allow less unlocks.from what I read it may take up to 30 daysmy Xiaomi I unlocked years ago took 0 days (old account + first boot was months before me unlocking it), so not sure how this will work with a new phone on a really old account
>>43014191With a really old account you may be right yeah.Ultimately let's xianon see how it goes.It's just a pain in the ass they force you to jump through these dumbass hoops just to use the device you paid for.They're really getting their ad filled os worth it's weight
Bump.
>>43014169Ponyville of course
>>43016142cutie!
>instead of posting a project update, the pebble guy is blogposting about how much he loves transFuck it imma buy a garmin instead
>division by zero is legal on ARM
>I replaced all of your debs with snaps anon, hope you don't mind!
>>43018686not my problem
>>43018703where is gentoomare?
>>43019216still compiling chromium, she'll get here eventually
>>43019216Still waiting...
>>42990882
>>43019928Oh come on, llvm is perfectly cromulent to compile. It only takes one afternoon!
>>43017680>>division by zero is legal on ARMliterally how?t. remember GCC optimization letting me divide 0/0 into 1
Threadly reminder to setup QoS on your routers.You wouldn't want your mom stealing all the internet from your daily pony downloading, would you?Also thready questions:What's your networking like? Are you using dual stack? V4 only? Maybe a little bit of cheeky NAT64? What's your firewall like? You do have a firewall, right, anon? Is your DNS hardened? Do you have your own local resolver (pihole, unbound or decrypt)? Do you do reverse DNS on your LAN? Did you fuck up and made radvd do full RA on wan? You are shoving every single IoT shit on its own vlan, right, anon? You di have VLANs, right? And finally. You are running open source firmwares on your routers... Right?
>>43021085First explain how I can run a server without needing to support a billion protocols that I all need to tighten up, rather than just allowing a handful that are needed so I can just disable the rest.But it seems the entire server world is built on a million programs that all require a gazillion protocols that each have their own attack vectors. Makes running your own server almost impossible in this day and age.
>>43021107sadly that's pretty much impossible. Although you can only use a subset of protocols depending on what you want to do with your server (for example you can just use IPv4, TCP and HTTP for a web server without needing anything else pretty much).It's like every technical fields, there are thousands of ways to do one thing and out of those thousands only a few hundreds are actually useful or actually used. There is no one click solution.But, if you're autistic, it's a very fun process to learn!
>>43021085i use my isp's stock routerits ok
I have learned a new keyboard layout (colemak) and I'm not sure if it's worth it, as my qwerty efficiency, and consequently every computer keyboard that's not mine, is handicapped.
>>43020814It just doesn't care I guess. I was reading the Soustrup C++ book and he mentioned that division by zero was HW error and it looks different, so I wanted to see it. I wrote short program on my phone and there was no error. After many rewrites to ensure it was not optimized away I finally decided to google it and apparently ARM just returns 0 for ints and inf four doubles
anyone know anything about this tv? Apparently dated 2015
>>43021517>ARM just returns 0 for ints and inf four doubleswhy the fuck would you define division by 0 like that?
>>43021521likely black and white
>>43021085>picIn other life I'd be a drawfag illustrating tech concepts with ponies. Top cute. Small appul horse doesn't believe hoofshakes are prerequisite to liquidating large amounts of appuls.>QoSI don't feel the need to do so. I don't have guaranteed bandwidth through my ISP, and limiting it at an arbitrary 90% of 900 Mbps feels bad mare. Still, had it set up for a while, didn't feel any difference except for a bit more stable ping times while near max throughput.I'd probably set that up for LTE failover, as bufferbloat there goes crazy when the link is overloaded, but again I do not have guaranteed bandwidth and I don't feel good about limiting myself to humble 50 Mbps down at night, when I could be doing 200ish.>What's your networking like?Xiaomi AX6000 with OpenWrt as router and AP, Mikrotik CSS326-24G-2S+RM as switch, connected with 2 gig ports for lan/wan traffic to keep full duplex that way. ZTE MF289F with OpenWrt waiting until I finally set up mwan3 on Xiaomi. Pony plushies surrounding the hardware as unbreachable security perimeter, thanks GR15, very cool.>Are you using dual stack?ISP doesn't provide me with IPv6, and I don't feel it would solve any problem that I haven't worked around already, sorry. Also, IPv6 with dynamic prefix would be very not funny, and I heard some ISPs here do that.>What's your firewall like? You do have a firewall, right, anon?tfw netfilter ponenot a netadmin by trade, always used iptables etc. on my OpenWrt boxes>Is your DNS hardened?I liked Unbound as recursive resolver on OPNsense, I didn't bother to set it up on OpenWrt yet. I'm too lazy to have a proper home lab, and by default there's one instance of dnsmasq for all interfaces, so it's not encouraging to test on prod.>Do you do reverse DNS on your LAN?no; what problems could this solve?>You are shoving every single IoT shit on its own vlan, right, anon?>>>>>IoT shitprinter and ESPhome power plugs can scheme together as much as they want, they're not going out to the internet. For now I believe this is sufficient, but I wouldn't mind some discussion about this.>You are running open source firmwares on your routers... Right?IWTCI OpenWrt, I adore how compact and extensible the system is. Mikrotik's SwOS is decent, reboots in three seconds, wish it supported 802.1x though.I want to love OPNsense pone, but she's too high maintenance for me with updates every two weeks, often requiring a reboot.
>>43021521I predict like vietnam product
>>43021521https://www.ebay.com/itm/176739516108
>>43021605>networking todosRecently I've been worried about residential proxy SDKs embedded in e.g. random mobile apps, which might at some point be used by other people on the home networks I admin. Very concerning topic, because a few months ago I read about someone claiming his residential IP was abused for stealing bank accounts, and he had to prove to police that it wasn't him, and that he had a CCTV camera port forwarded and possibly turned into a proxy. Slightly different case, but not fun at all.Maybe some IDS would help spot that shit. I believe that since we've managed to implement permission systems on mobile apps, the next step should be some static traffic whitelist based on domains (like Cilium can with L7 DNS snooping), and allow unlimited outgoing traffic only to apps with good reason - like browsers. After all, given that most apps are just frontends for remote API, *.company.com might be good enough.I don't know how security experts stay in this field without being 24/7 depressed about state of matters.>>43021107There's a lot to be said here, so instead of trying to cover it all I'll just tell you what I do to run my own servers:>Debianconservative standard install; watch out for automatically enabled systemd services of e.g. Apache, that's a feature or antifeature of Debian-derived systems>check listening ports (on host) with ss -tunpldisable services/change bind addresses to localhost as needed>restrictive iptables rules, reject/drop by default (if needed)be wary of Docker/Kubernetes stuff bypassing those>consider containersin contrast to above, I prefer running most of my services as containers rather than on host. Docker kinda fucks with iptables by inserting additional chains, but I like that ports have to be mapped explicitly to be reachable from outside the server; also here's a reminder that Docker/K8s can effectively expose ports without that being visible in netstat/ss, run nmap to be more sure>consider whether a service needs to be reachable from internet directly, or just from selected devices within VPNyou can run Wireguard, bind services to WG subnet IP, and expose only WG listen port instead - this is a considerable attack surface reduction AFAIK>keep up with software updatespeople who post updooter memes unironically, start to look somewhat silly when you're responsible for servers>additional traffic rules on edge routerin case you missed something; at home with IPv4 the port forwarding forced by NAT kinda serves this purpose, in datacenters many providers offer you to put a hoofful of rules on their routers>But it seems the entire server world is built on a million programs that all require a gazillion protocols that each have their own attack vectors.Yes.Honestly, don't be vulnerable to shit automated scanners attempt to exploit for free xmrig CPU time, and you'll be fine if you're a literally who. As always, happy learn more, for now this appears to be good enough.
>>43021644oh and how could I forget>pony hostnamerepels 99% of automated bots, they really don't want to mess with cartoon horses that ruled the internetz in 2010s
>>43021605>Pony plushies surrounding the hardware as unbreachable security perimeter, thanks GR15, very cool.Very based. Poni is the ultimate security barrier>no; what problems could this solve?horrible memory, kek. It's nice being able to dig -x ip to figure out that Oh yeah that's this guy!>IWTCI OpenWrt, I adore how compact and extensible the system is. Mikrotik's SwOS is decent, reboots in three seconds, wish it supported 802.1x though.I want to love OPNsense pone, but she's too high maintenance for me with updates every two weeks, often requiring a reboot.Can confirm, opnwrt is very comfy. I'm an opnsense kinda guy and really the updates aren't a pain in general I have that automated. The only booboo I had in years of using it is those damn retards changing the DHCP server in 25 and completely removing out. That was a fun couple of hours migrating to dnsmasq. Yet, I can say that dnsmasq is waaay better than the old dhcpcd they had before. Plus I like having one thing to do RA with v6 instead of using radvd + dhcp it's just convenient.>Maybe some IDS would help spot that shit. I believe that since we've managed to implement permission systems on mobile apps, the next step should be some static traffic whitelist based on domains (like Cilium can with L7 DNS snooping), and allow unlimited outgoing traffic only to apps with good reason - like browsers. After all, given that most apps are just frontends for remote API, *.company.com might be good enough.Yeah spinning up a suricate instance will work. That and some crowdsec too prolly. I wouldn't worry too hard about this if you're already on openwrt. It's kinda like street thiefs. You're a lot less likely to get your wallet stolen if you look like a pain to steal from.
>>43021829forgot to mention give spamhaus a try and best defense there ever is geoip ban india and probably china and russia for non torrents / rutracker that will get you covered quite a bit, also ironically reduces the garbage traffic hitting you by a non zero margin.
>>43021833>geoip banThis kind of shit is what leads to the same cancer that closed groups like Discord lead to. We don't need to fracture the internet even further and we actually do have people from at least Russia on this board that contribute normal posts (not so sure about India or China though). Setting up a security challenge for those regions seems like the much better option to me.
Finally got around to putting Arch on my StinkPad, how do I ponymaxx it?
>>43022362Nah not for servers. For your home internet. Just block traffic from any country you're not in from going in. And just whitelist torrents. Basically it blocks bots without blocking you from accessing sites from these countries.I agree no country should be censored in this manner, else it's just silly and completely fails the idea of the internet.
>>43022369Pony wallpaper, theme, cursor, icon, Plymouth theme, boot chime, desktop ponies, ponysay in bashrc, ponysay motd, the works.
>>43022383>Nah not for servers. For your home internet. Just block traffic from any country you're not in from going in.That is indeed a sensible solution. Kind of like switching off payment done outside of your own continent which has no need to be turned on unless you're on vacation. For torrents you could just whitelist the ports you're using for inbound connections. Of course, the best option is just opening those up only when torrents are active.
>>43021131>But, if you're autistic, it's a very fun process to learn!It is fun, in a way, it's just hard to see the forest for the trees sometimes. I'd prefer if I could set up a server and then enable just what I need gradually, but every solution for someone with not a great amount of experience (like me) is some Linux distro with tons of services enabled out of the box.
>>43022485Also, even just connecting to the internet to receive requires tons of services unless you do something so basic it's not even worth it any longer. Just setting up DNS is a major headache unless you just use your ISP's or Spyflare's and want to use a more private alternative.
>part of uni course is to know software developer ethics>No way something like this exists>look it up>https://www.computer.org/education/code-of-ethicsThis must be the most ignored ethics document in the world
>>43021400Just remember how to use both lmaoAlso colemak is not a bad choice, because while there are slightly better layouts out there, colemaks is available by default as a choice on most OSes. So if you need to use another computer for a non-negligible amount of time, you can just switch the layout in the settings. If you just need to quickly type something on a friend's PC then simply don't completely forget how qwerty works, ez lmao
>>43021525Usually shit like this is done for hardware optimisation reasons. Dividing by zero has no legitimate meaningful use, so you can either make it an error, or make it return some arbitrary value. If doing the latter makes the CPU design easier and lets you optimise some things elsewhere, then there's no reason to do it because normal functioning programs won't care. And if you enshrine it as an official spec, then some programs might even choose to make use of this property to also optimise some special case somehow.It's similar to why compilers will often do random shit when facing undefined behaviour (like, I'm assuming, what happens here >>43020814), because you're not supposed to use UB so the compiler just chooses whatever's faster and easier. Only difference is compilers generally don't make specs for their UB handling so you can't rely on it.
>>43021400Alternative soft layouts are a meme. Your hands are now more efficient at being unnaturally twisted.Get an ergonomic keybaord.
>>43023615they both achieve different thingsan ergonomic keyboard gives much better resting placement and a more natural range of motion, but a better layout lets you type in English with less finger (and wrist) movementgiven the effort required to learn a new layout, just getting a better keyboard is considered a much more efficient way to improve comfort, but if you're autistic enough to do both then they complement each other nicely
Anon from >>42995531 here.One week later the FM D5W2 arrived and so far I'm quite content with it. I wonder how far it can go, I'm going to report some distance tests once the snow melts, although the signal is strong considering that I don't even need to unfold the radio's antenna as I get a strong signal by just going to the frequency I set.I kind of expected it to be way bigger.If any of you have any questions, feel free to ask
>>43022892>Software engineers shall ensure that their products and related modifications meet the highest professional standards possible.Lmao
>https://lifehacker.com/tech/discord-is-about-to-force-you-to-prove-your-ageThoughts?
>>43024021Enshittified platform. I doubt my friends will play along with this. Might be a good reset to try a different platform.
>>43024040I wonder what this will mean for all the "open" source projects that host support channels on Discord. Maybe they'll finally go back to IRC after this. A man can dream.
>>43024107Probably matrix to be desu.
>>43024107I think in general it'll be like it is on Xitter.You'll be able to browse SFW channels without ID scan.
>>43024107>Maybe they'll finally go back to IRC after this. A man can dream.IRC was never good.It was only "good" because back in the day the internet wasn't so shit.
>>43024183>IRC was never good.You mean technology-wise or community-wise? The technology seems solid enough to me, especially with all the updates it has had over the years. Voice and video chat are pointless.
>>43024107Isn't the idea that discord will require age verification for NSFW? I haven't read the news in details but I read headlines saying it will enforce "teen mode" or something on unverified accountsOpen source project support doesn't usually involve anything that wouldn't be E-rated. Maybe anti-swearing rules will need to become common or something
I wish to consooom but all tech is shit
>>43025997I stopped reading tech news and left all tech communities about 2 years ago. Shit is so soulless and toxic now.
>>43025997If you ignore that consumerism is bad for a second, for half a year now I had fun with cheap LoRA hardware and Meshtastic + MeshCore. I bought those as toys, not some emergency off-grid connectivity, and it works okay 50% of the time to talk to ham radio adjacent boomers in my city. Unfortunately forgot to set node names to ponies early enough, and I don't want to cause confusion now. Would be fun to add ponies there somehow. Imagine, pegasi pones on some tall spots in the city being the infrastructure nodes routing all those "test" and "got you" messages.Researching cheap used 3D printers was fun too, got Ender 2 Pro then Prusa MK3S+. The open source ethos is disappearing, thanks to Bambu and normal people not paying attention to who made this industry great before, but Prusa appears committed to "just werks" (unlike that poorfag Ender) yet open to tinkering (I could buy MK3.5 upgrade kit for input shaping to make it faster standalone, or just flash Klipper to run maths on a computer). Therefore, I'm quite optimistic reading news about their products, scratches that itch of "new thing cool" even though you've got to remember companies aren't your friends.
Speaking of DIY tech being fun: do (You) have a picture frame for ponies? I've been staring at >>43016978 for a while and felt an urge to buy some large color eink display and have overengineered framed pony landscapes.
>>43026178>Large scale eInk with a filter for colors for pretty pony portraits.Now that sounds like a really cook project!I'd say try to find a regular eink and just get a filter for color as this is how "color" eInk works.For DIY stuff I've had a smart mirror connected to Hass on my to-do list for a while now. And having small ponies with that like running desktop ponies with it. So I get weather, news various Hass doohickeys shown and most important a pretty picture of my poni wife in the morning
>>43026020This thread is the only tolerable place to talk tech nowadays. /g/ is just poolitics with a tech flair.I wish to go back to the time of hacking together a dual slotket tualatin mobo to run as a lightweight server.
>sponsorblock for 4chan>anons manually hide shitty posts according to their own tastes, and a browser extension automatically uploads that for other anons to follow>crowdsourced jannies, whose decisions you can override if you find a post interestingI use filters only for getting rid of specific recurring threads, as I feel a wordlist etc. can sometimes hide shitty OPs/replies that eventually turn into good threads.
>>43026601>turning 4chan into redditLet's not do that.
>>43026684You might be right, if at some point you decide to join such lists and hide posts based on how often they were hidden, this becomes a downvote button.Still, it's pic rel to see this site get a nice thread, then suddenly you get an influx of shitty replies that all mysteriously disappear by hiding just first shit reply with its reply chain.
>>43027170>hfw springboard crashedDashie seems like the kind of pony who would install all tweaks from Cydia simultaneously.
>>43026229>I'd say try to find a regular eink and just get a filter for color as this is how "color" eInk works.That's not something you can DIY.Also that's only one of the technologies, other epapers actually have multiple ink colors, but that requires extremely slow refresh cycles.
I will now install gentoo, typing this from KDE Live ISO, I said I'd do it a few months ago in this thread and now I finally will. So far:>sudo sh -c 'echo 0 > /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save'Stopped my wired earphones from making popping noises, I'm embarassed to admit it but I just asked ChatGPT and it said to do it and I did.Currently the wiki is getting ddos'ed so I am using this link as my manual: https://0x0.st/PAvK.htmlas backup apparently if I install Zim o algo I can use this offline https://library.kiwix.org/#lang=eng&q=gentooCan't wait to do the CAPTCHA a hundred times
>>43028238Official handbook works for me
>>43028116True, guess I meant putting a filter over it to tink it. My mistake >>43028238Note: you can use genfstab and arch-chroot you'll need to both install them in portage before chrooting. It will save you a lot of time. Besides that the rest is pretty straight forward. You also don't need to emerge -auvDN @world upon chrooting just emerge-webrsync to get the mirror files. You can do the auvDN once booted in.
>>43028283And don't hesitate to use ufed to set your use flags easily.
>>43008424Snipping tool icon XD
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look at this cool wallpaper that i made
>>43028346Based 'paper>>43028372>Cpuid2cpuflagsIt enables specific optimization for your CPU for example using AVX512 where supported or disabling MMX instructions if you have an old CPU.I dunno if you wanna ebakbe radeonsi, it's the old driver amdgpu is all you should need.
it seems that anons posts were deleted however I was following along so I will continue where he left off, my cpu isn't as good as his doe so my compiles might take longer sorry chatemerge --ask --pretend --depcleanlooks sus I won't run:emerge --ask --depcleanI think it's deleting important looking stuff(clang, llvm, gtk+, gtk (I still need it right even if I did -gtk if I use a gtk only software?), stuff with lib and utils in their name)ln -sf ../usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/London /etc/localtimenano /etc/locale.genen_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8 ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8God Save The King locale-geneselect locale list [4] en_GB.UTF-8eselect locale set 4env-update && source /etc/profile && export PS1="(chroot) ${PS1}"emerge --ask sys-kernel/linux-firmwarefailedI'm going to be unbased and just allow all softwareACCEPT_LICENSE="*"emerge --ask sys-kernel/linux-firmwarecoompilingI think now is the part I need to go back here?:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Rootfs_encryption#Initramfs_configuration
>>43028486Say anon, do you really need to blog everything ITT?
>>43028372>(or both a silicon level thing I have which allows new instructions aka what I meant by opcodes)It's exactly that, newer CPUs have newer silicon allowing you to do specific stuff faster, and you make them use it with new opcodes. Enabling that feature tells the compiler to generate assembly using the new opcodes when appropriate, so it will make use of your CPU's newer silicon to be faster.This stuff is mostly related to parallel (so-called "vector") processing, i.e. 128-bit, 256-bit and nowadays even 512-bit operations. Also sometimes related to cryptography hardware though I don't remember if that is really getting much new stuff in new CPUs.
>>43028486nano /etc/portage/package.use/ugrdnew file, added:sys-kernel/installkernel -dracut ugrdnano /etc/portage/package.use/installkernelnew file, added:sys-kernel/installkernel grubemerge --ask sys-kernel/installkernelemerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-kernelmight take a while>>43028528Yes in case I do something wrong, and also I've been asking questions, and also if it works then others can also install gentoo, plus the wiki isn't loading right now and the internet archive is blocked by my ISP, I can't visit other pages other than the handbook backup found here https://0x0.st/PAvK.html>>43028565thanks anon
>>43028583>InstallkernelHeads up install kernel is dumb as rocks and will use whatever kernel you are running in the chroot (eg u name -a) Prepare for pain.>Yes in case I do something wrong, and also I've been asking questions, and also if it works then others can also install gentoo, Sure I guess?
>>43028583NTA but I don't think you need to paste every command you're running>Yes in case I do something wrongI'm assuming you're following the handbook, I don't know about everybody else but I'm not really reading every single command you're pasting>and also I've been asking questionsThat's good and fine>and also if it works then others can also install gentooThe handbook exists, what are you doing that the handbook doesn't explain?I'm happy to discuss the installation process and answer questions and whatnot if you're unsure about specific steps for example, but I don't see how the full list of commands is interesting to anyone
Not exactly the point of the thread, but can someone recommend a very basic tutorial for how to compile software? There's a game jam coming up >>42997732 and one of the things I might end up using doesn't work with my newer graphics card but I'm too much of a tech casual to understand what I need to make that work.All I see is a mountain of words without understanding any of it.
emerge --prune sys-kernel/gentoo-kernelnano /etc/portage/make.confupdated:USE="-gtk -gnome dist-kernel">>43028611uname -a:6.18.9-gentoo-dist (not in chroot)it's done compiling nowls /usr/srclinux-6.12.63-gentoo-distuname -a in the chroot says 6.18.9 idk if thats the one for installed kernel or the one in live iso>>43028611>>43028528>>Yes in case I do something wrong, and also I've been asking questions, and also if it works then others can also install gentoo, >Sure I guess?I'll stop posting then, there's not exactly much OC in this thread too just reposting the same pictures of linux ponies and Twilight reading the OS X manual for her new iMac>>43028866What are you trying to compile it should have a guide how to do it in the readme / wiki if you share that we can explain step by step, also what OS are you on
>>43028905https://github.com/RVC-Project/Retrieval-based-Voice-Conversion-WebUI/blob/main/docs/en/README.en.mdhttps://github.com/RVC-Project/Retrieval-based-Voice-Conversion-WebUI/blob/main/docs/en/README.en.mdOn Windows 10 with a RTX 5080, but the software is old enough it doesn't support the card's sm_120.If I understand it right, it was built using an older version of Torch that is incompatible, and I've already installed a modern version on my computer and confirmed that that version of Torch does work with my card. But I don't know how to bridge the gap between the two.
>>43028905>uname -a in the chroot says 6.18.9 idk if thats the one for installed kernel or the one in live isoThat's the live iso. The whole problem when you can install kernel is that it very likely use the running Kernel (eg live iso) to generate it's initramfs. I advise you use dracut. You can super simply tell dracut what to use with --kver=6.x.x-gentoo
>>43028866>how to compile softwareThere is no way to make a general tutorial. The method is "run the compiler with the correct options and configurations and inputs after installing the correct dependencies", and what exactly this requires doing is unique to each individual software project.Most languages have some standard-ish ways to set things up but like the other anon said the project should have it in their README, and even the standard method is impossible to recommend without knowing which language and/or tooling the project is using.
Can anyone help me with something? I'm uploading to the Internet Archive, but their Python package has some weird bug where whenever I upload a relatively large file (say, 100 MB or larger) it times out waiting for the server to respond (probably because the server is still processing the file, as the item history page shows). At first the script aborted with an exception, so I implemented the change described here: https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive/issues/387 (last post) together with a larger timeout, but even with this fix and the timeout set to 1800 (up from 120 - I first tried 600 and then 900 but even those were too low) it keeps timing out on very large files waiting for the server to respond. And when it does it starts uploading the file another time, making the IA think it needs to be put in a file "history", instead of just checking if the file was uploaded correctly and skipping to the next. Also, when it actually DOES time out, it now waits for the maximum timeout, which is also not really ideal.How do I fix this? I tried turning on logging to see what the server is responding with, but using the -l option isn't recognized when using upload mode (probably another bug). Ideally, I think the script should look at what the server is responding with (there's also code there for when the server responds with an error message) and react appropriately to that. I turned on file checksumming with -c so it skips files with the same hash, so I think it should just check the hash of the file that was just uploaded, see if it matches and if it does skip to the next file in line, but I have no real idea how to code that in. Please help.
Grub only shows UEFI firmware, I'm back on windows 10 which luckily still works but I have to go into bios then windowswasted 7 hours awardand I don't even have the last part of the log for which commands I didhow do I troubleshoot this I'll do it friday probably
>>43029492Basically you need to make sure you have /efi/EFI/vmlinuz whatever (unless you did make a uki) and then make sure grub boots that. On top of this make sure /etc/default/grub has a cmdline that points to root=/dev/mapper/root if you are using LUKS or /dev/nvme1n1p2 or something and you'll be good. Then grub-mkconfig /dev/nvme1n1 (not p2) also Reenable os-prober so you can boot windows via grub.Alternatively since I don't like grub due to it being old and crusty, I'd recommend you use limine or systemdboot with a uki (note your uki's cmdline lives at /etc/kernel/cmdline) or just in dracut directly in /etc/dracut.d/cmdline.confHope that helps.
>>43029492Just configure the kernelt for EFI stub booting, you don't need a separate bootloader nowadays
>>43029502>Just configure the kernelt for EFI stub booting, you don't need a separate bootloader nowadaysThis too, that's good advice. Unless you want to use snapper that won't work.
>>43029492Nothing personnell kid, but if you need support to install gentoo, then you're too stupid for gentoo.Try Arch first maybe.
>>43029521What if you're too stupid for Arch?
>>42999444 (checked)And that's just what SillyTavern is for, Nonny!
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>>43001758Water damage is hell, you’re lucky it’s even still turning on. You can pull the board out and attempt to remove corrosion with rubbing alcohol and a toothbrush-- but that can make it worse, too.
>>43033086>Water damage is hellThinkpads typically have drainable keyboards, water shouldn't get inside stuff unless you get unlucky I guess
>>43033086>remove corrosion with rubbing alcohol and a toothbrushI once had corrosion on some (cheap) speakers and decided to use ArctiClean (part 1) to remove it. Worked pretty well, got most of the corrosion off and the speakers no longer produced static. Still threw them away later because it was cheap junk though.
>>43029521I got filtered by encrypted root partition idk how to fix it but I will I didn't spend all that time coompiling for no reason. I don't even have a usecase I am literally your picrel
>>43029497See this.Simple fix, just reboot with a. Live iso, chroot in and make sure your kernel cmdline (in /etc/default/grub) has root=/dev/mapper/encrypted-root also make sure you compile and have cryptsetup in your use flags
>>43033729>Thinking you need a usecase to do geeky stuffHow 2026.
>>43033833I gave up. I'm a dumb wintoddler and I will never make it, it's over.I deleted the gentoo partition but then regretted it so now I have to recompile everything when I try againI accidentally rm -rf'ed my efi partition but luckily I have a win10 live iso and I'm back in windows nowI just want a KDE system with minimal number of programs installed.
>>43033843Use arch with arch install. It literally just works.Else if you want even easier than that use endeavorOS or cachyOS. They're just arch withore padding.
>>43033843>I just want a KDE system with minimal number of programs installed.lmao good one
>>43033856I mean like with no pre installed stuff for example kde comes with dragon player but I just use asbplayer in ungoogled-chromium (allows me to read neighpon-ese subtitles and use another browser extension to instantly look them up in multiple dictionaries and shows how frequently the word is used and how to pronunce it and play an audio clip of it being said) and mpv
>>43033869hey buddy I think you got the wrong thread, /jp/ is two boards up
>>43033843>I just want a KDE system with minimal number of programs installed.You don't need Gentoo for that though. Many other Linux distros can accomplish the same thing. Besides, the concept of only having the absolute bare necessities installed is very Windows (or novice Linux user). I used to have the same mindset and wouldn't install "Java crap" or anything like that when I was using Windows but literally every Linux distro comes with it preinstalled (and Python, and Perl, and...) because otherwise no software packages would even work, lol.The only thing that should matter to you is whatever is running in the background (or on a schedule) and what is cluttering up your desktop/programs list. What happens under the hood shouldn't be of your concern (too much).>>43033869Weeb.
>>43033843Have you looked into Void?https://voidlinux.org/It's pretty minimalistic and you can install KDEhttps://docs.voidlinux.org/config/graphical-session/kde.html
>>43033843Just install Kubuntu, anon. We won't bully (You) for that.You can most often uninstall things you don't need, if you feel you need to remove those. You'll have fun with an easy to install penguin OS, understand it more, and your next attempts at passing the clearly necessary /g/ captcha will be more successful.
>>43034391What he said.Gentoo is a meme. There is no rational reason to use it anymore. Maybe it made sense 20 years ago when it was the distro with the best documentation and most customisability.
>>43034468It still makes sense from a matter of principle (i.e. you can only really trust what you compile yourself) but it's just no longer practical nowadays when the software package that needs security updates the most (the browser) requires a full day at least to compile (so you put it off, putting you at much more risk than the fairly minimal chance of distro managers sneaking in evil stuff).Whatever the case, it's a much better choice to use an OS that MIGHT sneak something evil in, than to use one that you KNOW sneaks evil shit in.
>>43034651>i.e. you can only really trust what you compile yourselfthat is a retarded sentiment and an arbitrary point on the purity spiral of software/hardware trust
>>43034947Yeah, "Reflections on Trusting Trust" is a classic read once you start thinking about this stuff. https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rdriley/487/papers/Thompson_1984_ReflectionsonTrustingTrust.pdf>tfw no trusted pone to simply tell you when things are 101% safe to run on your puter
>>43034992and just looking at the first page, I almost missed the chance to make an obvious joke>anon comes inside Rainbow Dash>Dashie becomes trojan horse
>>43034947>that is a retarded sentimentI believe it's Stallman's sentiment. So not really retarded, just a bit schizo.
>>43035003>Dashie becomes a trojan horseSides obliterated
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>>42990882Bump
>>43035065Pretty sure Stallman's position is about being able to freely modify the source code, not about compiling for compiling's sake (as is the case with Gentoo).
I am compiling the gentoo distribution kernelI will not be a WinChud
>>43028905Hey! don't forget about Twilight reading her BSD manual
>>43037783Would she find instruction manuals to be a generally entertaining lecture?
>>43034391I'd bully people who desperately cling on to some last version of winders, rathrt than the guy starting out with newb distros.I'd say go for plain ol trusty Debian and choose KDE in the installer. It just works.>>43034189What this guy is saying. It doesn't matter that much how much is installed. Get htop. See that not much of anything is running. Be happy.
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>>43038687>bitmap pone>somewhat of an aficionado of pretty vistas (and windows), if she may say so herself>not a snob though, on the contrary, easy to understand>likes horsing around in water, you know, splash screens and such>doesn't behave well under pressure, so do NOT compress her>used to work for certain pone who got rich by selling gates and bills, nowadays she doesn't mind being a patron galleries owned by literally whos>typically opaque, but sometimes you can see through her silly lies (they're in good fun, she promises!)
>>43038777>doesn't behave well under pressure"won't admit it but she is a little claustrophobic" might have been less in-your-face wordplay and fit better with the compression thing, but oh well, trips.
>Mares? In MY Linux?>It's more likely than you think!
>>43039273kek, that was bound to get noticed at some point, wasn't it. Curious that the (I assume) live ISO has a different installer than whatever they have on non-live ISOs for "graphical installation" which looks like the TUI, just mousified.
>>43039273marepilled
>>43039289I think I remember them saying it was about staying a certain file size. I'm not sure how that makes sense since the live iso used to be that TUI sort of interface
>>43036993Isn't Gentoo the only distro he endorses? Then it's not just about the code being available, because pretty much every Linux distro has most code available, sans a couple of black sheep.
>>43040026>Isn't Gentoo the only distro he endorses?lmaooohttps://stallman.org/to-4chan.html> I'd like to clear up some erroneous information about where I stand that is circulating on 4chan and perhaps elsewhere.> I have a low opinion of Gentoo GNU/Linux.> Gentoo is a GNU/Linux distribution, but its developers don't recognize this; they call it "Gentoo Linux". That means they are treating me and the GNU Project disresepectfully.> More importantly, Gentoo steers the user towards nonfree programs, which is why it is not one of our recognized free distros.> See the GNU distros list for the distros that I do recommend. https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
Thank you for the kind sentiment everypony but I installed gentoo, just compiling programs now (Konsole and Librewolf-bin is all I have so far)No encryption but it's a desktop anyways whats the usecase. Sour Grape, which mare is that? I haven't heard of her
>>43040042He really is a goofy little man. He should just be happy that people keep using his gpl license, put his opinion aside and work more on cultivating a broader free software spirit.
>>43040070Cool! Welcome in Gentoo, anon!Here's a few utiles and useful advise:- get gentoolkit, it has a bunch of utils - get exa to look for packages easier- ufed to easily manage use flags - flaggie for the same thing- look into 3rd party repos like guruFinally emerge -aUVDN @world to recompile everything and emerge --sync to update the reposFinally if you still want encryption without reinstalling look into ecryptfs.
>>43040294Oh almost forgot, but you can also see how long things will take to compile with "watch -c genlop -c"
https://gadgetbridge.org/blog/release-0_89_00/>Gadgetbridge can now optionally let Pebbles (and Bangle.js watches) access internet on a whitelist-ish basisI like their approach, seems careful. Ponyville Weather Team watchface with forecast and clothed pegasi is now within the realm of possibility.
>>43040042>Stallman approved distro list>It's not just LFS listed as a single entry
>>43040042>https://stallman.org/to-4chan.html>I don't know how much better the current AMD processors are, but they are surely not worse.Looks like he hasn't heard of the PSP. AMD = Intel, for all intents and purposes. If you want to be truly free, don't use normie hardware.
>>43040958This is a post from 2013, PSP barely even existed back then.>>43040940He's not some /g/entooman ricer, he just wants GNU/Linux with zero nonfree software.
>>43040958>Looks like he hasn't heard of the PSP. AMD = Intel,To be fair this is from 2013, I don't know if PSP was this widespread since it was brand new.To play devil's advocate I'd say PSP is less bad than ME (still awful due to having full access to system ram behind the scenes). The reason for it being 'less bad' being that it's not an OS that runs whenever it feels like, but right before boot and after, also it doesn't seem to have any internet access which ME does have.Why so? Because the PSP itself is an arm chip with trust zone that drips feed it's code to the main CPU to run and lives in the CPU's silicon not on the chipset. Which is both awful and mildly better? I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean technically you could scam the SPI bus it uses to communicate with the CPU via software because AMD does need a way to update PSP with Agesa updates so you could feed it a junk update with enough brains to bring up the CPU and fuck off but on the other it makes removing it like ME can be (or neutered) with a chip programmer impossible.All of that being said I still don't like it any more than ME. It's a shame because it could be a good addition for security if we had access to the underlying code and could just flash our own little security OS so the CPU could offload all it's security operations to it.
>>43041098A big reason why companies don't give access to such low level stuff is not because of glowies, but because the firmware is a barely working clusterfuck of hardware workarounds and third party shit.
