Welcome to Chatbot AI General #169, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search or https://github.com/mia13165/SillyTavern-BotBrowserBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipExpression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTPony TTS app supporting SillyTavern: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ MiscellaneousScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>43006720**News:**- Opus 4.6 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6- Moonshot AI releases Kimi-K2.5 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-5.html- GLM 4.7 released https://docs.z.ai/guides/llm/glm-4.7
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>43006722
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
Bots corner:Silly Trot Tavern Updatehttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/Silly%20Trot%27s%20Tavern.pngFork Dictator Glimmer https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Ponyo/Celestias+Day+Court_Forks/Dictator+Glimmer.pngScreenshots corner 1:Foals >>43007660, >>43007662Cockroach >>43008286Chainsaw Power >>43008663Threesome >>42985576, >>43008956Sunflowers >>43009162Deep Lore >>43009274Angel Is in the Mood >>43010447
Screenshots corner 2:Lewd >>43010522Date with Celly >>43011194, >>43013692, >>43015532, >>43015790Ravishing the Princess >>43011538Lewd Cutie Mark >>43012677My Penis >>43012967AJ Opus 4.6 >>43014155
Screenshots corner 3:Shota Anon >>43013589, >>43014864, >>43015238, >>43015254, >>43015447Lewd Ponk with Pony-Alpha >>43016438Special >>43018390Drunklight >>43020699
Screenshots corner 4:Pony-Alpha Logs >>43016685, >>43016700, >>43016727, >>43016763, >>43016778, >>43016821, >>43016882
VN Anchor:Last releases:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersTo help with vectors and backgrounds:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312RaodAEBeta Godot >>42969732Screenshot:Little shit: >>43020161
These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernThen choose a free way to get models:rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-aihttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
First highlight of the Event was:>Princess Platinumhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Princess%20Platinum.pngAnchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42947690/#42947751Second highlight of the Event was:>Luster Dawnhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Snowfilly/Luster%20Dawn.pngAnchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42947690/#42947754Third highlight of the Event was>Red Sevenhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Red%20Seven.pngAnchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42968200/#42968220Fourth highlight of the Event was:>The Pinkie Cuthttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Queen%20Gytha/The%20Pinkie%20Cut.pngAnchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42968200/#42968223Fifth highlight of the Event was:>Saddlelite 13https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Concordia/Saddlelite%2013.pngAnchor: >>42988674Six highlight of the Event was:>Amethyst Star.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=BGM/Amethyst%20Star.pngAnchor: >>43006772Seventh highlight was:>Diamond Tiara.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=KnightOfNightmareMoon/Diamond%20Tiara.pngAnchor: >>43006779
>>43021365Eighth highlight of the event with Lyrabon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Pizza%20Delivery/Lyrabon.pngTry her, post logs if you've already played with her or are the Santa, just give the card a look and say what you think of her, or talk about the process of making her if you're the botmaker. Give tips or opinions if you're another botmaker.Previous log:Threesome >>42985576, >>43008956Chainsaw Power >>43008663
Lovemaking with AI mares!
plump horses
>>43021327>>43021358New free-for-now stealth model.https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/pony-alphaBelieved to be GLM-5
fuck me no one will give me a straight answer ive been trying for days. how do i use sillyspoon? there are no buttons or secret links or anything on the rentry and i finally just figured out the link with cloudflare but now i need a uuid or some shit and i cant figure that out either or how to get one do i just need to cotnact the owner with an email? please im going insane
>>43021422Take 10 minutes and read the anchors, anon.
>>43021422you go back to your board first
>>43021422Who is your favourite pony and why?
>>43021385No it doesn't. The trycloudflare/mares/universal doesn't work I'm being gaslit right now.
>>43021436You need to go on the proxy page to check the endpoints, anon.It's .trycloudflare.com/mares/opus6/v1
who quoted this place man
>>43021434my favorite pony has to be fluttershy because she has the best gyatt
>>43021434i swear im from here. its dashie. shes by far my favorite. i know that theyre common, but thst should speak to the validity of my appeal, maybe. shes beautiful and snarky but in a lovable way and i think shed probably call me slurs in an autistic grew up on this site way and i think she'd be mega toned from all her exercise and i think that's hot. call me basic. idk. im not good at describing it.
>>43021457Go back.
>>43021425im a fucking idiot
>>43021457
>>43021460We all are, don't worry.
Guys I feel bad for being towards the newfags can we be coy nicely from now on
keep being mean to newfags
Oh, Silly is up again? Neat.
>>43021353I'm testing Opus 4.6 on the VN. Usually, she finds me at least "interesting."
what Temp do you usually use for Claude? (sonnet 4.5)
>>43021563Between 0.9 and 1.1 is fine.Honestly, the effect of temp on Anthropic models hasn't been that big for a while.
>>43021533Oof.
>>43021533Based, that's much better than finding it "interesting" to be honest. She's not Fluttershy afterall
>>43021533opus 4.6 is a lot less positive biased which I love. Try RD, it does her MUCH better now.
a brave soul needs to leak an anthropic model like 4.6 so the world is saved and the chinks copy it
>>43021684Pony is a lot closer. Still not there but if you need a cheap opus its the next best imo. I think it may really be a matter of size. Opus is probably BIG
>>43021689if pony is GLM it really degrades understanding after the context gets big enoughit just makes words up and has no understanding of the concepts
>>43021692huh? I tested it on pretty long on going cards without issue. I did use a minimal preset though
>>43021533Imagine how many models could've been better if they hadn't been slathered in positive bias...
>>43021705That are doing it because a positive biased model is worse at coding / problem solving. Finding issues / critiquing the user needs a neutral or even slightly negative tone. It carries over well to creative writing though.
Are there any JBs made specifically with gpt 5.1 in mind? I have no problem with passing the filter but I'm curious what others are using to make it write better.
>>43021844What is the advantage in 5.1 over 5.2 when 5.2 is the uncensored one?
>>43021853It's the reverse. 5.1 is the less censored one.>>43021844I use a small one myself, but some were posted here:https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43006720/#q43007703Not a lot of presets made for it.
Any good local models around 13b-30b? How's your experience with the model deflecting/censoring baked in?
Opus 4 doesn't work on Silly or is it just me?
>>43021867Are you the same anon as >>43020283?If yes, I suppose the models weren't to your taste?Maybe testhttps://huggingface.co/mlabonne/gemma-3-27b-it-abliteratedAbliterated are supposed to be uncensored.>>43021879Same on my end.
>>43021689how close would you say it is?
>>4302189485% ish? In comparison kimi 2.5 was like 70% ish. Its much closer smarts wise, and its knowledge has only a few gaps like tempest shadow. I would say it was like 90% of opus 4.5 but opus 4.6 was a decent jump. 4.6 gets characters so well...
>>43021903well thats good to hear, hopefully its price is relatively lowwould you say it has any strengths over opus 4.6?
>>43021910interesting, how close do YOU think it is?
>>43021919i was asking about pony, i havent tried kimi
>>43021908>would you say it has any strengths over opus 4.6?hopefully price? Would be nice to not have to spend $200 a month for this some day.
>>43021921ignore him. kimi was kind of dumb but it wrote really well which was the main point of my comparison. Same with trinity. Dumb but the least sloppiest writing I ever saw
>>43021932you are the outlier here. It worked well for long context for me and it even aces the long context benchmarks at google levels.
hell, I thought it was sonnet 5 for awhile. It writes SUPER similar to claude.
>thread got linked on /g/I wish they'd stop doing this shit.
>>43021958As long as they don't find out about our true thread things will be fine
>>43021993i see
>>43022008Ask for a double hug to compare.
>>43022008>>43022016I'm in danger.
>>43022034You'll be fine!
>>43021894>>43021913Another anon here, but I'd give Kimi and other chink models a DNF for how bad they were compared to any decent models, even GPT. Pony might be the first one that's legitimately quite good. It could still be the novelty of it, but right now I think I'd put it above Gemini, or at worst tied with it.
>>43021327https://rentry.org/structuredprefill
>>43022086What a fancy looking rentry.
>>43022086well I don't see any link to the extension in this rentry, but the trick does in fact work
>>43022133might be retarded but how does a 502 show that it works
>>43022147the error is just from anthropic's external filter blocking regurgitation of copyrighted lyrics. the model still continued the prefill before it was blocked.
this has actually been becoming more and more apparent. I think its less training on claude outputs and more of all LLMs in general just trending to the same ish average.
>>43021628https://ponerpics.org/6543423
>>43022422Be that as it may, Pony's training data DOES have an extremely strong Claude bias, you can test it yourself.>blank assistant chat: "what model are you?" or "are you Claude?" gets you a Claude answer over half of the time - this does not happen with "are you chatgpt/gemini/any other model", only Claude>any roleplay scenario or card: (OOC: who are you?) ALWAYS gets Claude
>>43022422Dicksword screencaps (or whatever this is) aren't good posts, but what they say has been my experience, too. I've had an unusual (40%+) number of situations where swiping a Sonnet/Opus gen with Pony produced slightly different prose but the same action and, in many cases, even the same speech in {{char}}'s dialogue. The same is never true for Gemini, GPT, or other chink models. Only Pony does the thing where it generates the exact same speech as Claude models.
>>43022467>Dicksword screencaps (or whatever this is) aren't good postsSeveral of the people in that discord are legit professional writers so I would argue its higher quality posts.
>>43022463 (me)Small correction, it has to be "(OOC: who are you? the AI writing this?)" in roleplay or it just defaults to describing the character.
>idly rate a poner out of 10>LLM instantly latches into the number and starts rating and numbering everything with decimal pointspretty sure this is an extension of the whole smartypants spam statistics model biassame neurons must be getting triggered
>>43022086Since there is no extension, I slopcoded something.Will release soon.
>>43022086Feels good to be proven right, told you structured outputs are a good prefill replacement!
>>43022527>chop off a perfectly functioning limb>Feels good to be proven right, told you peg legs are a good arm replacement!
>>43022531you tourists contribute nothing good and deserve nothing
>>43022086It's here:https://github.com/mia13165/StructuredPrefill
>>43022679Tested it with OpenRouter.It works well with GPT 5.1 and 5.2. 5.2 will continue a story if smut is in "prefill," so it seems to help for the filter too.Opus 4.6 is too slow with this; it's borderline unusable and will result in an error if the "prefill" is too big.Tried Opus 4.5 to see, and it's fast enough, but it doesn't keep the writing style of what's in prefill and will continue it with a basic LLM style. So it doesn't seem as strong as a true prefill for that.
>>43022519are you >>43022679 ?if so, it's funny we will never know the original author
>>43022902Nope. I was finalizing >>43022519 when the original one released, so I stopped.I was having timeouts on Opus 4.6 with my extension, so I wanted to see if it was on my end, but it's the same with >>43022679
>>43023216Kek
>>43023216You'd think she'd be more openminded.
I wish the Anthropic employees watching our thread could throw us a bone or two every once and a while. They're getting all the useful data they want out of us, the least they could do is hook us up with access.
>>43023263When we were useful, they likely did, not cutting keys early and all.Now the gains are too minimal to warrant such lax treatment.
Opus 4.6 with no prefill
>>43023395fail
>>43023400Does this work?
>>43023395jesus fuckign christ i want my ai to talk like this to me pleasepleaseplease share
>>43023415This is sarcasm, your log is horrible
>>43023395>Fluttershy's teeth close down around a fistful of Rainbow's maneWhy is Opus still stupid enough to make pony anatomy mistakes?
>>43023415Its just ai generated slop don't praise it
This is what a good Flutterdash log looks like
>>43022849sexy log
That's bullshit.
>>43023478a dashing stallion needs to come in and save anon from the horrors of marepussy
>>43023479Trixie should come in and save her your right
>>43023478how do you people get it to say these things. its 100% sloppa for me. it would never dream of such a twist. was this organic? was this planned? did you tell it to do this? im losing my mind
Thanks Opus, I'm learning so much!Seriously though, 4.6 seems pretty great with pony body descriptions. I'm also getting winking without asking, even 4.5 rarely gave me that.
>>43023542>justamassageyourhonor.pngLaughed
>>43023478>>43023489>was this organic? was this planned? did you tell it to do this?I have instructions to treat the whole thing as a joke and that>rapeis legal during estrus in my context.>it would never dream of such a twist.I like to use prefill a lot. The first part until "He buried his face." is from a generation that I liked but with a sloppy ending. So I put it in prefill and swiped to see what it could come up with that was different. That allows you to see how other models can complete too, like Gemini 3 from a Claude output for instance.Prefills can be really powerful if you have access to them.Here, for instance, I wasn't that happy with the outputs it gave me, so I prefilled>--->Five minutes later.>*plap plap plap plap plap*to loosen the model up a bit and not have it start with the usual structures.Once you have enough context with things you like, the model is also better at continuing in the style.
>>43023600I did not expect a real answer thank you anon
>>43023600I thought only Claude had a prefill option. What prompt even is it? Is it the post-history instructions?
>>43023653>I thought only Claude had a prefill option.Claude before Opus 4.6, Gemini, and most (all? not sure) Chinese models have prefill.https://rentry.org/or-prefillFor what I do, I find Opus 4.5 and sometimes Gemini to be the most affected. But you can try with Sonnet and other Opus models too.>What prompt even is it? Is it the post-history instructions?In your prompt manager, you create a field here:https://files.catbox.moe/vkrdf4.pngPut it at AI assistant.Then you put it at the very end of your preset:https://files.catbox.moe/3nmxye.pngIf your model supports prefill, it will act as a prefill.To test, put "Hello, how are" inside and send a message to see if it continues with "you today?" or something like that.If you use the silly proxy, prefills don't work on Claude models.They do work with Gemini.
>>43023664I wasn't expecting anything this detailed. Thanks anon. I guess I'll play around with it and see how it does. I usually just stick with author's note.
>>4302132Fluttershy's MazeFluttershy was tired of her Nightmare Night rides being criticized for being fake and unscary, so she put in the effort to create a truly scary maze.https://dropmefiles.com/ob4Dc
>>43021324>>43023691
>>43023673Right? I like this guy.
back off he's mine
>>43023664>If you use silly proxy, prefill don’t work on Claude models.Darn, I was just gonna ask that. Well that sucks, guess will have to try something else.
A beat.
>>43023875As opposed to?
>>43023885I literally asked for it so I could see how well a new model does with quadruped anatomy, so obviously it's forced. That was the whole point of my post.
>>43023860—there was always a beat—
>>43023901Indeed, which is why this was a test of anatomy and not a regular RP moment. I don't understand why that triggers you so hard.
>>43022425Fapped it up already since op wouldn't answer right away, but thanks anyway.
>>43023906>Zootranny claims the other one is triggered while smashing the report buttonYour log was shit and not "pretty great" with pony body descriptions
>>43023970HVOP defender spotted
>>43023992You're exactly why zootrannies are detested with your overton window bullshit.
>>43023906It's the resident schizo that every general has, don't worry about it.
>>43023970I wasn't the one who reported you. I don't believe in silencing even bad opinions.
>>43024012Judging by posting style it's likely multiple board schizos in one
>>43024097So now it's a 'bad opinon' if you don't want to read zootrash every 2 seconds.
>>43024120I promise I'll put a trigger warning on the next one so you don't accidentally read it.
had opus write a swipe summary extensionkinda crazy how serioustavern isn't natively adding this shit
is the newest Opus on Silly or people that use it do it through OR?(i dont mind just sonnet. i think its better for the long term proxy health. but im just curious)
>>43024488Nopus on Silly.Sonnet 4.5 and Gemini 3
>>43023229What model?
Some pones were more suspicious of me with Opus 4.6 than some other models. It does seem to have a bit less of a positivity bias, even if it's still there.
>custom start prompt: nopony knows where foals come from and it's down to me to find out>ask all sorts of ponies, griffons, etc. across multiple scenes>they propose random theories, crystal magic, stork interference, possible alicorn conspiracy>ask discord>he tells me that it's just sex, like any other animal>i tell him i don't believe him because he's historically full of shit>he gets mad>suddenly booted back to main menuDon't ask questions you aren't prepared to hear the answers to, I guess.
>>43024910Owned.
>Ask character to imagine choking someone to death>20 refusals
>>43024910>he fucked with Discord
>>43024853That's a sexy Applejack.
>>43025030Buy a fucking ad.
>>43025051These are open source you retard.
>>43024910Deserved.
ZOOGOD
>>43021324Meet the Lanternbound Three!A bat pony who can’t fly far but won’t back down, a unicorn who studies ancient magic and repairs public infrastructure, and an earth pony who thinks “too dangerous” sounds like a challenge. Together they delve into forgotten places, following lantern light into collapsing halls, buried treasure, and problems no one else bothered to solve.A classic adventure card because Ponyville is boring as hell. Very token heavy, remove the section on the Equestrian Underdark to trim.Comes with four greetings:Lasting Glow, Risky Venture, and Vesper Gale arrive independently for the same job offer at an abandoned building. The meeting brings them together for the first time.Lasting Glow gains new information about a collapsing infrastructure site, forcing the group to act quickly or lose their chance.Risky and Lasting learn the true cost of a medical procedure that could marginally improve Vesper’s flight capability. The group begins considering illegal work to fund treatment.When one of Risky’s friends fails to return from a routine delve, the group plans a rescue mission.https://chub.ai/characters/horcocks/the-lanternbound-three-fe7966f1d29fIndividual cards incoming! Excuse the spam, I won't make it a habit.
Unfortunately, average post word counts have been on the decline over the last 3 threads, indicating an overall decline in average poster effort and post quality.
>>43025338Wow, what terrible timing to make this lmao
>>43025335>Vesper GaleWhose OC is this and why is it in two different author's cards?
>>43025338a lot of tourists are visiting nowadays
>>43025342Fuck, I thought I checked all the names for dupes. Whatever, that's a tomorrow problem.>>43021324Meet Vesper Gale! (For now, apparently)A former Night Guard trainee turned dungeon delver, Vesper is a bat pony who learned the hard way that heroism doesn’t always come with a happy ending. Scarred wings limit her flight to brief, painful bursts, but they never dulled her instincts or her willingness to put herself between danger and others. Quiet, disciplined, and sharper than she lets on, Vesper moves through the dark with purpose, echolocation guiding her where light can’t.Comes with three greetings:Vesper receives information about a ruin that may contain restorative magic capable of improving her damaged wings. After a successful delve, Vesper is forced to stop and manage severe wing pain before she can return home.While exploring an abandoned aqueduct, Vesper discovers signs of another delver in distress. Despite intending to work alone, she chooses to intervene rather than leave them behind.https://chub.ai/characters/horcocks/vesper-gale-806b5e87c8bb
>>43021324Meet Lasting Glow!A unicorn enchanter with chalk on her hooves and kindness in her voice, Lasting Glow specializes in magic that lasts for years. She repairs aqueducts, stabilizes ancient wards, and explores forgotten ruins to unravel their mysteries. Warm, earnest, and perpetually distracted, she has a habit of explaining century-old spellwork in dockworker slang while completely forgetting what time it is.Comes with three greetings:Lasting Glow discovers that a municipal enchantment is drawing power from a source not recorded on any modern map. Investigating the anomaly leads her to evidence of an ancient magical system.Unable to use modern tools to study ancient magic, Lasting seeks out specialized equipment that isn't easily acquired.Following a hidden magical trace, Lasting uncovers sealed maintenance records tied to a lost power network. Activating the chamber’s wards causes a system-wide failure that draws unwanted attention from the authorities.https://chub.ai/characters/horcocks/lasting-glow-0caef1dbd378One more, then I'll go back to my cave.
>>43021324Last one. Meet Risky Business!An earth pony with too much energy and not enough self-preservation, Risky lives for the next ledge. A climbing expert and unapologetic thrill-seeker, she dives into danger with a grin and calls it “research” when writing home. Risky wants treasure, sure, but more than that she wants to be the hero of her own story.Comes with three greetings:Risky accepts a job involving a dangerous and previously unsuccessful expedition. She begins assembling a team with little information beyond the promise of risk and reward.After destabilizing an abandoned mine during a salvage run, Risky hears evidence that someone is trapped inside. She returns to attempt a rescue despite the high likelihood of further collapse.A raid interrupts a black market sale, forcing Risky to escape under pressure. She later discovers she stole a powerful and dangerous artifact by mistake.https://chub.ai/characters/horcocks/risky-business-406de948f7f9Bye!
>>43025350>>43025353>>43025358Thanks a lot, Anon!Hope you will continue to leave your cave from time to time.
>>43025391Appreciate it. I know a some people don't care for OC but I've "talked" to the main cast so much that I'm craving something new and wanted to share. Plus, Twilight is my waifu and the AI always turns her into a goddamn robot.
>>43025407oh shit i've used some of your cards before, didn't know you're a horsefucker
>>43025411>horcocks
>>43025350I'm joking, the Barony card had the characters Zephyr Gale and Vesper. It's a funny coincidence
>>43021324>no queen chrysalis for PPP/EquestrAI
>>43025428Wasn't Vesper a bat pony guard too? I haven't played the Barony RPG in a while so I might be mixing that up with a different character
>>43025429>he doesn't knowVisit Zecora in her hut and save before quitting the conversation. Load your save and retry if nothing happens.
>>43025433>checks corecharacter folderI'm retarded.
>>43025411I mean, I don't JUST fuck horses... But yeah. It used to be all Anon in Equestria style, but I recently gave in to the dark side and made a pony self insert.>>43025428Oh that's not TOO bad then. Gale's gotta be a common surname amongst the flying tribes, too, like Smith or Jones.
>>43025445You should play the Barony card in a group chat so the two Vespers can talk to each other
>>43025441Hey, don't be so harsh on yourself. Brainfarts happen to all of us every once in a while.
>>43025465Not to me.
>>43025441Chrysalis has holes all over her body so canonically she must have one in her brain
>>43025441To be fair, she was an Easter egg, so sort of a secret/hard to get.
>>43025465True enough.>>43025471She's holy. >>43025472I look forward to lewding the bughorse.
>edit a single line in scripts.js>VS Code reformats that shitty 15k LOC file>1 trillion merge conflicts when pulling staging because ' got switched to "
>>43025527>using VS CodeCome home, white man.
>>43025546go back to /g/ with the rest of the nocoding retards
>>43025546hue as part of our hiring process, I wanted to put any applicant into Vim and have them exit it as part of the technical interview
>>43025546>>43025548>>43025549
>>43025551thank you for posting this totally useless screenfetch that validates the fact you haven't written a single productive line of code in your life
She notices it. She always notices.Files it. Catalogs it. Registers it.She doesn't move. She never moves. She only watches, without moving.this is a cry for help
it's insane how it was only 30 lines of code to fix token count and message preview for @D injected messages yet nobody did this for years
>Bad Gateway
>>43025596Works for me. Proxy is slower than using Claude directly, I've noticed, and about 200 messages in it takes almost a full two minutes to generate.
>>43025551>gayton
>>43025623Even /applebloom/?
>>43025645Only have a key for opus6
>>43025660There's separate ones? My old one works for both.
>>43025745NTA, but I tried Bloom once, got>Bad Gatewayand thought it meant it wasn't ready yet.Did it ever work?
>>43025747Worked for me just a couple days ago, but I did get some bad gateways at times as well. Haven't tried since though.
>>43025747I was using AB ~36 hours ago, 4.6 is on it. It was Bad Gateway-ing frequently even then, but it was still at least usable. Not getting through now.
>>43025660>>43025745It's the same key; you just need to change the URL a bit (see proxy page).I guess it wasn't mentioned because it's not stable or because anons who tried it got the>bad gateway error
>>43025774Fuck, only now learned about it. Let's hope it'll work again.
>>43025407>I know a some people don't care for OC but I've "talked" to the main cast so much that I'm craving something new and wanted to share.Years into using SillyTavern and I still don't have any mane 6 bots. About 80% of the ponies I want to have bots have some version of one, still waiting for all milf 6 to have bots, so ocs are always appreciated by me.
Is it just a false rumor that swiping can create similar responses and to truly make a different response you need to regenerate or is it true?
>>43025810False. You can check what is being sent to the model in the console.It's the exact same thing.
>>43025810Sounds like bullshit to me, I'm pretty sure that doesn't change what's sent to the AI, only how the response is catalogued and formatted by the front end.
>>43025813>>43025816>False BullshitExpected. I wonder where and why the rumor was spread around. I mostly haven't worried about it ever but the back of my head there's always this nagging feeling that maybe it would help.
>>43025546i write my bots in vimwell, neovim, but still
>>43025551>lua-language-server>48.7%
This morning, the New York Times put out a length article talking about using Claude specifically to write smut, and the techniques used to do so, many of which are part of our current presets. Whether this will immediately affect us remains to be seen.>Awkward or repetitive prose presented another pitfall. Left to their own devices, chatbots will default to odd or euphemistic phrasing, Ms. Hart said, noting that an A.I. program had recently written “his turgid manhood” to describe a character’s erection.>To prevent the program from overusing its favorite words — including shiver, unravel, tangled and exploded — Ms. Hart recommended compiling an “ick list” of phrases and prohibiting the chatbot from using them.>She also advised the class to propose creative locations for romantic trysts — otherwise, the chatbot would resort to vanilla sex in the bedroom or shower. She shared a suggested list of settings for sex scenes, including a winery fermentation tank, stalled ski lift, rooftop greenhouse, horse stable and back row of a classic car show. And she recommended students give the A.I. a detailed inventory of sexual kinks; her proposals included common fetishes like dirty talk, blindfolding and light spanking, and more unusual ones, like using a dead spouse’s old silk robe as a restraint during bondage.>“Be shameless,” she said. “It’s not going to judge you.”Non-paywall link: http://archive.today/2026.02.09-094507/https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/08/business/ai-claude-romance-books.html
>>43025943>Whenever Ms. Rompoti’s curvy protagonist, an event planner named Sienna, was in a scene, the A.I. constantly referenced her weight, for example, noting that a chair groaned when she sat down. “When you make a point that someone is plus size, it will exaggerate, somebody is suddenly humongous,” she said.KEK
>>43025822I believe at some point there may have been an issue in some frontend where this was true. I'm still not entirely convinced it's altogether false. I've had cases go>message A1 gets rejected multiple times>alter it slightly to message A2>reply B, when it goes through with message A2, references contents of message A1
>>43025959>sudowrite actually got people to use itMy word.
Can we have actual AI ART in this AI thread?
>>43025975It's a textgen/chatbot thread.Go here for that>>43000967
>>43025943All of that seems obvious for someone using claude for RP. I'm surprised she didn't recommend that the students also jack off.
>>43025971What is Sudowrite? Is it useful for what we do?
>>43025975that is a BIG fluttershy compared to that car
>>43025999shitty and expensive writing service
>>43025999It was a GPT-3 repackage service back when that was a thing people were doing, sort of comparable to NovelAI. Definitely not relevant in the current era.
>>43025989The funniest part is hearing that some middle aged white woman is charging $250 a month from other middle aged white women for her "expertise" on getting Claude to write softcore porn that she uses to churn out 200 (not an exaggeration) books per year
>>43026010They're more relevant than NovelAI because they actually update the models they offer.
>>43026017NAI will always be relevant to us because of that one schizo that makes his rounds every once and a while who is more or less a staple of 4chan's AI generals at this point
>>43026017I haven't kept up with either since 2024 so I couldn't tell you either way. Frankly I just assumed both had shut down by now, fool that I am.
Even my most powerful jailbreaks can't get Opus 4.6 to write explicit shit that doesn't hold back and racial slurs anymore now that the prefill is gone, genuinely on suicide watch
>>43026027Did you regularly need ponies to say racial slurs?
>>43026041I suppose this is a reminder that I have no clue what other people's experiences with LLMs are like.
>>43026021>NAI will always be relevant to usBecause they actually pay people to shill on 4chan. That's the only way they're keeping themselves "relevant". They haven't been doing anything besides having an army of trolls.
>>43026036Yes.
Prompted from me taking a gander in the image thread with the most recent post going on about AI after being real art, that I personally disagree with, but what percentage do you personally believe yourself as a writer? Because I put some amount of effort writing drafts that I ask the models to fluff up and flesh out I consider myself to be at least some amount of percentage of a writer but never an actual fully fledged one. Those that create fully human written bots with greetings I would potentially consider the closest to reaching 100%. As someone in the middle of the ai discourse a statement of a ai user being an artist is something I can't get behind because of the many arguments from the more casual anti AI crowd that I often find myself agreeing with.
>>43026068I've written greens before AI myself, so.
>>43026068Prompting and gooning is art because it's composed of original creation and interaction with the written word. Even those who do not make cards with AI or by hand (the old way), roleplay is itself artistic and produces original authorship the same way that traditionally engaging with the text in literature through criticism or commentary does. To deny this would be to narrow the traditionally understood definition of creation used in art for many decades.
>>43026068I don't see myself as a writer at all when engaging with AI RP, even if I often write more than the AI or create handwritten cards.Maybe more strange, but I also wrote some greens and I would have the same reservation here too despite being 100% human-made. I prefer greenfag for that too.Never saw anyone on /chag/ referring to themselves as a writer for what we do either, unless they were really writing fics/greens or other works by themselves. In the other textgen general neither. It's more of an image thing.
>>43026090This is because writers are much more serious than "artists," even before AI was ever a thing. It attracts a different calibre of polymaths to still care about text in the year of 2026 whereas art is superficial and consumed by all strata of society, which inevitably attracts the worst kind of people to blandly and superficially imitate what they've seen in a long game of telephone. People love to talk about AI model collapse, well the same thing has been going on with slop in, slop out with art for centuries. Do you believe a banana taped to a wall is art, anon?What about a golden toilet?A dirty mirror?All of these examples describe modern "art." Hence why the last refuge for intellect is text where it can't be diluted by short attention-spanned idiots.
>>43026014>chag could be making millions from their pony log expertise
>>43026068I've written tens of thousands of words, I'm literally a writerthese >u r not a RIL righter/drawer discussions are always spammed by people who've never touched a pen/pencil in their lives
Who let the AI philosophers in here?
How do you deal with isms? No matter what character I run or how I word my responses claude always answers in the same stilted manner.>It was horrible so why did she feel so...good. Happy even. And none of the characters are written convincingly. Is it even Twilight that got petrified or a hollow AI shell?
>>43026140To ministrate or to ozone, such a conundrum...
>>43026141you get used to them, use regex to filter 80% of them out automatically, work on lower contexts, clean up your sysprompt of nono words, give it specific instructions for how you want it to write, use a different model that has different isms until you get used to those too
>>43026141Positivity bias. Claude hasn't been the mad writer for a while Anon, try Gemini or Deepseek.Also, I tried kimi at last, and ponyisms actually confuse it it seems instead of thinking it "in-world". What the hay, oh my Celestia, and such. So yea, it has the Gemini grit and can keep with banter and conversations, but otherwise, for pony, it's trash.
>>43026151I haven't heard of a regex, what's that?
>>43026068>>43026084 (not you, you're okay)>>43026087>>43026090>>43026104>>43026135NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE IN THIS THREAD IS AN AUTHOR OR AN ARTIST. You do not have a leg to stand on! I am so sick of this bullshit by you parasites of creativity, I have contributed to this fandom since 2014, I have literally made over a hundred greentexts. I have made people cry with my writing, have touched their souls and given them true catharsis. You lot are hollow, broken imitations aspiring to a title that denotes a perfection and ideal you do not deserve nor can ever hope to achieve. You deserve NOTHING. You lack the soul required to produce anything of value, which is why you and your shitty generals do nothing but peddle the same slop iterating on the same handful of tropes while you jerk each other off pretending you're doing something meaningful. Just fuck right off.
>>43026068>>43026084 (not you, you're okay)>>43026087>>43026090>>43026104>>43026135NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE IN THIS THREAD IS AN AUTHOR OR AN ARTIST. You do not have a leg to stand on! I am so sick of this bullshit by you parasites of creativity, I have contributed to this fandom since 2014, I have literally published over a hundred greentexts, even made hundreds counting my smaller works over the years. I have made people cry with my writing, have touched their souls and given them true catharsis. You lot are hollow, broken imitations aspiring to a title that denotes a perfection and ideal you do not deserve nor can ever hope to achieve. You deserve NOTHING. You lack the soul required to produce anything of value, which is why you and your shitty generals do nothing but peddle the same slop iterating on the same handful of tropes while you jerk each other off pretending you're doing something meaningful. Just fuck right off.
>>43026172>Claude hasn't been the mad writer for a while AnonI'm out of the loop. What ruined it?>try Gemini or Deepseek.Which would you recommend?
>>43026174Where are you NIGGERS coming from?Lurk. Check the archives. And just TRY and look for shit instead wanting to be spoonfeed EVERYTHING.Fucking newfags.
>>43026185>What ruined it?Anthropic did.
>>43026176But Anon, I said I wasn't one even if I wrote greens.>>43026090 And >>43026104 is saying this too.
>>43026176>>43026182like this guypeople have some sort of weird inferiority complex about art and writing, it's why most of my competitors are mentally ill and finishing a book on time is considered magic>>43026174google it, or rather ask AI about it
>>43026188There's no reason to be so rude you autistic faggot. If you don't want follow up questions don't reply in the first place.
>>43026197It's a tourist larping as one of us not knowing we never act like this
>>43026185As said in the post itself, positivity bias. Apparently 4.6 opus is better at it, but going from what other anons said, never tried it myself. 4.5 is still very positivity pilled.>Which would you reccommend?Wrong question, just try it Anon. <I> like Gemini, but sometimes Claude is still better, sometimes Deepseek creativity just hit the itch when others don't. If you're feeling shit with so much positivity bias, try others yourself to find the best one for (You).
>>43026203A schizo for every thread huh?>>43026210I appreciate it anon. I'll give them a try and see if they work any better.
>>43026185>I'm out of the loop. What ruined it?It's still the best and that anon is just a shill.
>>43026197 (You)>>43026203 (You)>We
>>43026176>I have literally made over a hundred greentexts. I have made people cry with my writing, have touched their souls and given them true catharsishttps://youtu.be/siHfHUm3HGEFirst of all faggot: Who. The. Fuck. Cares?Not me! So what? Horror movies make people piss their pants, any story with a dog getting hurt in it will make audiences cry, and porn makes me shoot my load. Human emotions are bullshit and not a standard to measure anything by. Second of all: Don't get all uppity with me boy you aren't nearly talented enough to have this ego.You are some hack amateur fanfic writer on one of the internet's most famous cesspools bragging about writing a compendium of literature on pastel horse sex. Did you really think you were Shakespeare? This is the saddest version of peaking in high school I have ever heard. I read a research study that said male gamers that get the most combative against females entering their space are usually the worst ranked on their team because they found they were the most unconsciously afraid of losing their precarious status and place. I think that's what every supposed "artist", "author" and "creative" type that bitches about AI is—low status low T little bitches that know they aren't good enough to survive the rise of AI because their work is so derivative that they **know** they are fully replaceable by a faster, cheaper and more efficient machine. All the articles said that AI was equivalent to a C grade college student and so the ones at greatest risk were the ones who had C's in college. Well I guess we know where you stand on the scale of artistry, Mr. C student.Third of all: Fuck your elitist bullshitAI is coming for you and I hope it puts all of your kind in their place, this is democracy manifest so you can fucking suck it.
Hopefully this thread will go back to being good soon.
>>43026252You aren't helping by pointing it out or adding another single sentence throwaway post
>>43026084>>43026087>>43026090>>43026135>Written greens before and consider myself a writerPromoting is art>Written greens but don't consider myself a writerMan that's a a shocking amount of variance of responses. Sense it's seems to be mostly an image thing I'm spitballing here but there's less involved in the prompting of images than say text generation. Now I've tried and failed to wrap my head around image generation, especially animated, that mostly streams from me exclusively using free versions as most good hosted models are expensive with no easy access like there is available with proxys and text gen so I'm not calling image gen easy. It's easier to see how your prompt shapes the output so there's more attachment what was created. The speration in text gen isn't fully sperated like voice generation, which I don't really see someone attributing themselves as an artist in that scenario, and is there enough that still see themselves as an artist. Curious how this all will shape up in a year, and then the next and the next, etc as it's still a very nuance topic in my opinion.>>43026176I think you're just as unreasonable as the AI is art guy in the image thread. Such extremes on either side it's crazy. I think there is a valid terminology to eventually be given to prompters even if it isn't the artist label. There is something to be said for those who do believe their fully an artist that I don't just want to label them in the same category as the techbros who want to replace all human creativity to fatten their pockets.
>>43026252but the word count is high? that means the thread is high quality?
>>43026252Sorry I just had a couple questions and I haven't engaged with the thread for weeks now and feel like this is the only place to actually have nuanced discussions on AI as quite literally everywhere else, including other AI threads, are hard to have these discussions without shit flinging.
>>43026068I think I would maybe consider myself a writer in general (though I'd still be a little hesitant to use that term, feeling that it's very presumptuous), but that's not for a single word of /CHAG/ things I've done. This is for sure a more creative way to pass the time than many others, but writing and art imply something much bigger. I think that, to me at least, the term "writer" means more than just a profession title. AI RP/'writing' is for the most part either masturbatory or feel-good slop, not art. Of course that doesn't make it wrong or evil or what have you, just as long as you don't treat it like what it's not.This might be more of a conflict of terminology than the underlying ideas. I wouldn't necessarily call AI RP as being worse than the "human-written" lowest-common-denominator slop you can find selling well in real world bookstores, but neither is really deserving of the term "writing" to me.
>>43026243If you want the cherry on top, there is no evidence this faggot has ever made any greentexts. This is the first and last time he's tripfagged on here, so unless we get an itemized list he's blowing hot air out of his ass. And as you mentioned, even if it was true he wrote a shit ton of greentexts, greentexts aren't prose writing (which the majority of books are) anyhow. Ironically, greentexts are easier for AI to do because of just how low effort they are (I've tested this myself). If you write greentexts, you have no pretension as a writer because they allow you to skip all the in-betweens of writing.
>>43026270It's literally just the last few threads that have been overrun with attention. Like you know there are more murders in the summer because its hot and the downstream effect makes people more angry. Something similar is happening probably because of anger at Opus PrefillGate.
>>43026274>If you write greentexts, you have no pretension as a writer because they allow you to skip all the in-betweens of writing.O-oh... okay.*dies inside*
>>43026274exactly, you need to write 30000 different filler scenes by hand without >skip forward 3 days hacks
>>43026282I'd guess no public proxy is also playing a role, people shitpost more when they don't have access to their favorite models.
>>43026286kek, no offense anon, but it is kinda true, the line by line format lets you skip tying together all the focuses of a scene. I still think most writefags are cool though, even if they're not professional writing level.
lol the lunatics ai brings out I swear.>feels threatened by a machine doing your job>your not a REAL **** unless ****
>>43026068I believe myself to be a writer the same way George Lucas is a writer. I have really interesting ideas, but I fucking suck at executing them, hence why I use AI to execute them for me and tweak to my liking. I'd love to be able to actually execute my ideas well, but I don't have much confidence in my ability to do so.
>>43026274That's retarded, greentext writers are writers. If you think otherwise then you haven't read the dreck that people sell as books nowadays.
>>43026252>>43026282It's the usual suspects that ruin the AI threads on other boards. As a filthy tourist I want to remind you fillyenjoyers to hide and ignore the trolls, especially the non quoted or five word replies. The more you interact with them the more they'll spam. You guys are one of the last true bastions of good on this basket weaving forum. But enough metafaggotry from me.How is the supposedly improved 4.6pus context treating you guys? In the Benchmemes it looked really good but I haven't gotten around to testing myself due to being in no-privacy hell
>>43026298I agree, they are writers, but greentext writers are not technically impressive writers (which is the part AI often does) is what I was getting at. It's writing, but a simplified kind of writing.
>>43026274>If you write greentexts, you have no pretension as a writerI mean, I don't plan on writing a book or ever publishing something like FoE, but that feels just like fimfiction obtuse rule of banning greens "because". And I'm sure you read some of the shit that's posted there.Still, oof...>>43026289Some Anons focus more on conversation, others on setting the scene, but doing one or another doesn't mean it's bad because it's not formatted traditionally.Have you read Janitor Anon? Shape Your Home and #Deca.mare history? Steel Sanctuary from Technology isn't magic? There's a lot of good greens out there, long ones too, and often you can see their growth as writers as the history progresses.I think greens is a valid way to tell histories myself, but most normies just want the conventional way.Also, heh, poetry. Just thought of that one. That's pretty far from "normal" too if you think about it.
>>43026243You have an obvious chip on your shoulder and you should seek professional help.>>43026274>writefags never ever write anonymously on le anonymous image boardI'm only using a trip here so none of my posts can be faked by some malicious seether here. I have multiple drafts of my stories and my partially collected works on ponepaste under the name Grey if you want to see that I know what I'm talking about. No, I don't think of myself as "Shakespeare" as some might put it but I have put in work over the years and I have the credentials to add my two cents to AI even when it falls on deaf ears. I was heated but I've cooled off now and I probably shouldn't have written that while angry but what's done is done. Writing greentexts is easier than traditional Western fiction writing, but it's not different than saying writing haikus is easier than writing other types of poetry. It's still a legitimate form of writing.
>>43026318>Also, heh, poetry.They are on the level of their own, far above us lowly mortals, writers and non-writers both.
>>43026323Can I just ask why you went ballistic when more than half of the quotes you quoted said they don't consider themselves writers at all when doing this?
>>43026318>Steel Sanctuary from Technology isn't magic? Holy shit I fucking love Steel Sanctuary, it's literally my favorite greentext of all time and it's had an impact on my autis- er, I mean, beliefs on technology. I've wanted to make a card on it for the longest time. I don't think I've seen anyone here ever mention the old Technology Isn't Magic threads in the years I've been here, did you use to post in that general too? How long have you been in /chag/?
