What's the easiest way to get followers? Besides mind control or starting a cult.

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2nd for best 2uo!
Enjoy this conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/366784/heavy-metal

>>43542729
Over one full minute. You're losing your touch.

>>43542727
Thank you for using that image OP.

>tfw you need to resolve a plot so you start working backwards
>tfw you're still a little stumped
I just need to force myself to the point the rubber meets the road and go from there.

>>43542727
Nice work on the OP.

>>43542732
Agreed.

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>>43542732
I just don't feel any urgency when the OP cheats.

>TroonTheBat

>>43542740
You can tell yourself that if it makes you feel better.

>>43542733
He must suck some good dick.

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>>43542745
I'm telling you that, and it does make me feel better.

>>43542749
You have the right to tell yourself that. You are a fully self-actualized individual. You control your thoughts and feelings. If you believe you don't feel any urgency, then you don't feel any urgency. You are not secretly disappointed. You are not lying to yourself. You are not coping. Again, you are a fully self-actualized individual and you have the right to tell yourself that.

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>>43542844
Did you get the result you wanted?

>>43542747
Toppy so sloppy it makes knighty stop pretending he's not an AI bro.

>>43542733
>>43542747
One-day bans seem to be what mods default to when someone with at least some basic ability to write in intelligible English is caught using AI for the first time. I saw it happen to this moron after I reported him https://www.fimfiction.net/user/367288/underrated+Drake (if you go a couple pages back you can see comments stating his name was crossed out, but this is no longer the case). It was likely just a temp ban to begin with instead of the mods walking it back.

Looks like we're not the only ones writing corpses: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/594933/deep-space-mane-six-a-raritwi-exquisite-corpse

>>43519038
Finally reached the edge of the world. Neat descriptions as always

The guy who made "Hold it together" is back apparently! I can't wait for him to update my favorite fic!

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[Comedy][Slice of Life] oneshots remain undefeated in the featured box. Only porn can match their power. Seems my 1 AM EST posting strategy worked. Scrap enough euro views to get in the overnight deadbox, then ride the NA wave the next day.

I'm shocked a #1 M-box feature only gets nine upvotes and 65 views now. I got 4x the views on Deviantart and nearly equal on fucking Furaffinity. Fimfic really is dying.

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/258463/family-back-story

DNF. (0/10) Daring and Dash discover they're related. This one was really rough. Couldn't finish it. It had that standard new author amateurishness to it that just made it too hard to swallow the whole story.

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/254666/the-untimely-revenge-of-king-hoofenkhamun

6/10. Daring and Spitfire fight an ancient undead unicorn king. This one's a little rough around the edges with the grammar and narration, but the Daring Spitfire dynamic and history is really interesting and compelling. A shame its shortness really hurts that. I think the author has one of the shortest active accounts on the site. He made the account, posted the fic, then logged off two months later and was never seen again. Really strange. Wonder if he died.

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/245290/all-her-hopes-and-dreams

6/10. Daring treks to an ancient waterhole to get water. A short little oneshot, this suffers from the horror problem, even though it's not a horror fic. There's just not enough detail given to explain what's going on. Why's there a baby? Why doesn't Daring just carry the baby to the water? Why does the narrator say the baby has holes on it (changeling)? Nope. No time to explain.

>>43541041
No, only read two so far. Neither mentioned Daring's golden goblet. Both added buttons to her shirt, though, so they could go shooting off when she got too fat/inflated. Makes me want to check that Daring pregnancy fic, for research of course, to see if it does the same thing.

>>43542116
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/64302/and-i-asked-why

>>43542356
Thanks!

>>43542728
Announce in an author note you're writing a sequel to your most popular fic before it finishes. That's where I got about half my followers. But that was past Fimfic.

>>43542977
They finished theirs, at least.

>>43542977
>4 writers repeating
What a bizarre cope for [small clique humiliation].
>>43543041
So did we last time, and so will we this time.

How will you react if LLMs actually do get good enough at writing that they can generate high-quality stories exactly to your specifications with prose of varied enough styles to be unidentifiable as AI? Yes yes, a tired topic maybe, but with Opus 5.5 it's finally pertinent enough for me to consider. I won't share them here so as to not be obnoxious, but I tried a few MLP fics through the AI and got some really good stuff. I feel like it won't be long before it's better than anything I could write myself. Now I'm wondering what I should be motivated by moving forward. A lot of my motivation before was just that I want to see stuff that doesn't exist, so I have to write it myself. But that seems increasingly less relevant. I think I will have to do it for love of the game, just like raw passion for the creative process, and maybe hope that people will keep bothering to read stuff that doesn't suit their tastes perfectly. What do you all think? What will you do?

>>43543485
>How will you react if LLMs actually do get good enough at writing that they can generate high-quality stories exactly to your specifications with prose of varied enough styles to be unidentifiable as AI?
I don't care, shut up.

>I feel like it won't be long before it's better than anything I could write myself.
Improve yourself.

>lot of my motivation before was just that I want to see stuff that doesn't exist, so I have to write it myself. But that seems increasingly less relevant.
By writing, amongst other things, we exercise our minds, lest we lose them.

>I think I will have to do it for love of the game, just like raw passion for the creative process, and maybe hope that people will keep bothering to read stuff that doesn't suit their tastes perfectly.
None of the guys who pay for stories are satisfied by the dogshit made by these plagiarism machines, and they've got a lot more time to use them than I.

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>>43543485
Don't care about bot writing. I'll struggle and strive my own way.

>>43543485
>but with Opus 5.5 it's finally pertinent enough for me to consider.
Opus 5.5 is still pretty sloppy in its writing, and it's easy to detect if you know the tells, or with good detectors like GPTZero. They made an effort compared to the previous disgusting models, which is where all the praise is coming from, but it's not great either. We had better models for writing in the past.
>with prose of varied enough styles to be unidentifiable as AI?
Varied prose is still a problem right now. "Claude in a wig" is what people call using it for creative writing or RP, because even when it tries, Claude still writes like Claude. The only way around that was prefill, but they killed that on recent models. Anthropic also announced they're working on a watermark so text written by their models can always be detected. So AI writing becoming indistinguishable from human writing isn't that likely.
>Now I'm wondering what I should be motivated by moving forward.
Because writing in itself is an enjoyable and creative process?
>I feel like it won't be long before it's better than anything I could write myself.
My guess is you're just getting the wow effect from a newly released model. Cracks start to appear the more you use them.

And that's without getting into the limitations, like how they still don't have the creativity of a human mind, or how you need to tardwrangle them for anything bigger than a oneshot.

>>43543485
We've been two weeks away for several years now.
I am far more optimistic than you are. I have gradually warmed up to the idea that it is fundamentally impossible for LLM-style AI to ever "replace" creative writing. Writing, like any art, is a transcendental process. LLMs do not have a conscious mind capable of reaching beyond the base level of the world and, as such, are incapable of engaging in the process of art creation. They can only ever get better at emulating art. I don't think it's impossible for them to reach a point where it will become almost impossible to determine whether a given work was created by a human as a result of his or her creative process or generated by the machine that learned how to fake the result, but that is hardly different from the mountains of awful non-art "artworks" flooding every creative space since art became a consumer good (or even before that). In light of recent developments, science is a field that I'd be much more worried about, if anything, but even there I hold onto some hope (but I won't derail this post with a further tangent).

>lot of my motivation before was just that I want to see stuff that doesn't exist
That is kind of a skill issue. Perhaps you should seek motivation elsewhere. I write because I think it helps me develop my mind and the sensitivity to the art's ability to convey ideas that are otherwise impossible to approximate in our world. Since the emphasis is on the creative process, no LLM can ever threaten it in any way.
I welcome the gradual improvement of the LLMs as I use them to generate AI smut for me. Co-writing with the machine the scenarios that I come up with is much more fun than a lot of traditional porn, but it is mostly artistically empty as a process.

>>43543485
The problem with LLMs has always been "high-quality stories", not "prose of varied enough styles." Even early versions of ChatGPT used scrupulously correct spelling and grammar and could, if asked, imitate a wide variety of styles. What no LLM has ever succeeded at is storytelling. LLMs are basically gigantic games of Mad Libs. Regardless of how much entertainment you get out of Mad Libs, it does not tell a compelling story.

I am curious what would happen if someone unleashed 1,000 AI agents on the task of writing a single story. As far as I know, that's never been tried. It might avoid context window limitations, thereby avoiding the "story stops making sense" tell that has always been present in long LLM outputs. However, I don't expect it to be good. AI agents are not actually intelligent; literally everything they produce is just plagiarizing what humans have previously done. They don't understand what they're doing, which is why agentic AIs used in the sciences still produce hard-to-read slop. I expect that AI agents used for fiction would have the same limitations.

>>43542980
>edge of the world
How does that work?

>>43543485
Opus 5.5 pushed you over the edge? Seriously?

>>43543847
I haven't touched LLMs since gpt 3 launched in 2022. I only checked out Opus 5.5 since I saw people mentioning it in some creative writing circles I frequent.

>>43543844
Discworld style.

>>43543025
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/64302/and-i-asked-why
Thanks.
>2012
Dang, didn't realize it was that old.

>>43543850
Sorry, but if you're more than 3 months out of date then your opinion on AI is worthless. The industry is moving fast. Opus 4.5 was a game-changer and it only released last year. Fable 5 was another and that was about 6 months ago. Opus 5.5 is too new for me to comment on, but if you think that Opus 5.5 is amazing then GPT 6 Astra will blow your mind.

>>43543868
>Opus 5.5 is too new for me to comment on, but if you think that Opus 5.5 is amazing then GPT 6 Astra will blow your mind.
Please explain how you are unable to comment on Opus 5.5 but are nevertheless able to compare it to GPT 6 Astra.

>>43543896
Three reasons:
>GPT models are widely known for being better authors than Claude
>Opus 5.5's reputation is for being like distilled Fable
>I have professional experience with both Astra and Fable.

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>>43542925
>Did you get the result you wanted?
>

>>43543912
Serious question: If someone (who isn’t me) wanted a new tech job with a zero-AI environment, do you think he would have any success finding one?

>>43544042
I'm considering moving to the middle of nowhere and start a farm.

>>43544042
I honestly don't even know why you would want that. If you insist, then I suppose the best place to start would be IRC chats for your stack of choice.

>>43544042
Thankfully this is still very viable. You need to avoid cooder positions like the plague and ideally aim for older/traditional companies rather than the tech startups. Sysadmin, databases, network admins, working with old ERP systems, some security jobs, etc. Anything with significant hands-on work as well. If you spend your day climbing the drive racks and trying how to untangle the gordian knot of Ethernet cables left in the server room by the previous guy, chances are you'll be AI-free for a long time yet.
It probably depends on where you live, too. I wouldn't be shocked if every other tech job in the US had employer-mandated AI usage norms to make AI charts look good on investor calls.

>>43544113
>old ERP systems
You mean F-List?

>>43544068
Because I believe that AI is theft. My writings are in there. Stories I’ve posted on Fimfiction, stories I’ve posted elsewhere, my posts here, my posts on other forums, questions I’ve answered on Stack Overflow, things I’ve added to Wikipedia—it’s all in there. I put that out on the Internet, freely, for the benefit of myself and others. Now they’re selling my freely available work. They even want to sell my own work back to me. I find that offensive. Your writings are in there, too. Aren’t you offended that they’re profiting off of your efforts? That you’re buying your own work?

>>43544120
Unfortunately, the ones I'm talking about are a lot more efficient at making you feel like thoroughly fucked at the end of the interaction.

>>43544113
>databases
You're talking shit. I'm a DBA. I'm so used to seeing AI used to tune queries that I can tell what model the dev has used.

Lots of the stuff you're suggesting got killed off by the cloud boom.

>>43544123
I don't mean this argumentatively, it's just something I've thought about: Shouldn't you get mad about humans doing that kind of stuff? What I mean is let's say there's a story I really like. I'll study its writing, study its characters, study everything I can and then, when I write my own stuff, I try to implement what I've learned. Not plagiarism, just clear inspiration and something akin to recreation. That feels similar to me as to what AI does.

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>>43544042
>>43544113
This is wrong.
>>43544068
This is right.
You your only real chance is make the environment yourself through self employment/freelance work. But you would compete against people who understand how to use LLM tools, especially for tedious things, and be quite disadvantaged in terms of what you can accomplish per unit time.

>>43544127
The DBA guy I know writes them all by hand, has done so for >10 years he's been at his company, and he'll probably keep working there until retirement because staff layoffs are simply not a thing that happens there. You underestimate how ossified structures and systems get.
>killed off
Not everywhere. Any government-related institutions are required to store nearly everything on-premise here.

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>>43544123
Copying isn't theft, but I agree with the general sentiment of the training process being immoral, mostly because it discards attribution, and I also find the selling of it back to you offensive. That said, you don't have to buy a chat subscription. There are a lot of open weights models that are only some months behind the bleeding edge, and you can run them on your own hardware. Like https://www.ebay.com/itm/168665446042

I've always enjoyed software and media piracy, so I know my opinion is skewed on this point, but I very much like that the Chinese publish the weights of such competitive models. Giving the results of the training back to anyone is the next best option after not making them in the first place. That it is intended to destroy companies like OpenAI is just another benefit.

>>43544158
There are many types of DBA. If you're writing the SQL yourself, you're doing what the bot could do just as well as you or better. If you're tuning the SQL yourself, then the bots will probably be able to do it soon but they're not there yet. You can be very productive in SQL tuning if you are guiding a bot. If you're focused on the server side, like configuring backups and security, then the cloud does that for you (at a dollar price) and the DevOps infrastructure-as-code guys are constantly pushing to get your stuff into a form that the bots are great at.

Your friend sounds like the type who is the only one who knows how to get the reports into Power BI.

>Any government-related institutions are required to store nearly everything on-premise here.
Fuck no. I've worked for governments. They're in Azure.

>>43544175
The last time that topic came up, he told me that the AI-written queries are expensive, often in non-obvious ways, and that it's better to take more time to do it properly by hand and be sure it's relatively close to optimal. Maybe that has changed since then, or he had outdated information; you'd know much more on that topic than I. Regardless, even if the AI could do it more efficiently (either now or in the future), the point is that adoption is not instantaneous, and likely won't reach everywhere for a good while yet. Especially when time efficiency is not one of your top priorities.
>They're in Azure.
It has been a requirement where I live. It keeps your data from ever leaving the company, and getting subsidized makes it easier to stomach the initial cost.

Man I wish there was a source for the full un-texted art of the kayou cards, some of these would be perfect covert art for fics.

>>43544134
Yes, I've thought about that, too. Being inspired by someone else's work has a long history; half or more of Shakespeare's plots come from other writers. But we make, all the time, a difference between drawing from others' work and copying. Most of what people produce is not considered copying, and when a human copies too closely, we call it a copyright violation or theft of intellectual property or something like that.

The difference between copying and being inspired is that when a human is inspired, whatever they ultimately produce is never just what went in. They always add something of their own. Even if you can recognize the source material, the end product is always meaningfully different because the human has their own unique experiences to draw on. AI is incapable of that because it has literally no experiences of its own. Everything it outputs is plagiarized from humans.

That might change some day if AIs are ever trained using sensory input. If they had their own eyes and ears and so on, then would have unique experiences. But I don't think that's likely to ever happen; training an AI from scratch that way would take much, much longer, and it's cheaper just to keep stealing.

One of these days, I will write a fanfiction so OOC that Rainbow Dash is indistinguishable from a generic teen hero like Ben 10 or Sonic. With adventure and explosions

But writing is something I find hard to complete. I have probably had a thousand plot bunnies at this point, making me make new documents that never get finished.

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>>43544211
>It keeps your data from ever leaving the company
Even if it were true, and for several reasons it isn't, they can still self-host open weights models. My work does this.

>>43544218
>I will write a fanfiction so OOC that Rainbow Dash is indistinguishable from a generic teen hero like Ben 10 or Sonic. With adventure and explosions
So you want to end up like every Pooh's Adventures motherfucker out there?

>>43544214
>But we make, all the time, a difference between drawing from others' work and copying.
This distinction is just whether you can make a financial gain or something similar by calling it copying.
>and when a human copies too closely, we call it a copyright violation or theft of intellectual property or something like that
Not really. Pretty much the entire internet always has and always will run on piracy, just as music has always run on sampling, just as storytelling was always just wholecloth copying and adaptation.

>>43544214
Modern refined AI output isn't 1:1 or plagiarized, though. I mean it *can* spit out cloned text because it has the database for it, but if you tell it to write a pony fic it will use original enough words to the point if a human di did it they wouldn't be accused of theft.

>>43544211
>often in non-obvious ways
In other words, the professional DBA can't read an execution plan.

>it's better to take more time to do it properly by hand and be sure it's relatively close to optimal.
That's the opposite of how you're supposed to do SQL. SQL is designed for flexibility, such that the query's execution can change when the data does. If you're hand-tuning every piece of SQL that your organisation writes, then you're probably writing brittle SQL that is over-fitted to the current state.

>>43544250
You're operating under the assumption that anything the DBA can do, the bot can already do better. Have you ever considered that perhaps, just maybe, you might be wrong?

>>43544291
I explicitly said what the bot cannot do in >>43544175

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>>43544241
>This distinction is just whether you can make a financial gain
I suggest that you try offering free downloads of Disney movies. When the Mouse's lawyers contact you, kindly remind them that you are offering these downloads for free, out of the goodness of your heart.
>just as music has always run on sampling
I would like to introduce you to something called an "acoustic instrument". They are truly impressive marvels of modern technology that can make music using no samples whatsoever.

>>43544306
What level of braindamage are you operating on?
>I suggest that you try offering free downloads of Disney movies. When the Mouse's lawyers contact you, kindly remind them that you are offering these downloads for free, out of the goodness of your heart.
So what you're telling me is that Disney, earnestly, has no financial motivation whatsoever? Are you recruiting for a class action lawsuit over a lapse in fiduciary duty?
>I would like to introduce you to something called an "acoustic instrument".
Yes, music which was written and performed before you were born.

Can we talk about marecock instead?

>>43544321
You wouldn't download a flare

>>43544306
>This distinction is just whether you can make a financial gain or something similar by calling it copying.
The distinction is actually what the anon said: "Most of what people produce is not considered copying, and when a human copies too closely, we call it a copyright infringement."
Take the Dover Boys at Pimiento University. It's a 1942 Merrie Melodies cartoon directed by chuck jones but the copyright has been renewed. It's now in the Public Domain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0U8iL38xfM
The above link is a reanimation project: But it's not "still up" because "The Dover Boys" animation is in public domain.
Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gLmWwRXVTg
This has been up for 8 months now. It features animation by multiple artists. Want to know why it's still up? It uses the audio from the S3 E13 episode "Magical Mystery Cure" and yet it's still up because:
>as it says at 0:00
>"MLP: Reanimated is a not-for-profit fan-based reimagining of the 65th episode of "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic", entitled "Magical Mystery Cure".
>It is a sufficiently transformative work, and is considered fair use under section 107 of the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976.
Understanding this: don't do what >>43544306 said obviously, and upload movies by disney without their consent. But as for A.I. and what the orignal premise was in the question posed here >>43544123 where he says, " AI is theft", there simply isn't much of a case to go off of. I find it disgusting to look at (AI art) but that doesn't mean it's doing anything other than shitty pattern recognition. The final product is a mishmash of data points. It really doesn't correlate to "art" at all by that standard/logic, but that's a discussion for another day.

>>43544325
>has been renewed
*Hasn't

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>>43544318
You're really trying to live up to that flag.

>>43544325
I should clarify that I believe AI is morally theft, but it may or may not be legally theft. That's not settled. See https://ailawsuittracker.com/ai-copyright-lawsuits/

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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/341014/duelists-of-the-autumn-crown
In a nutshell, Duelists of the Autumn Crown is a great Yu-Gi-Oh fan fic with terrible duel writing. I cannot call this a great story. There are obvious editing failures from the first chapter. The story is not anything particularly remarkable and you will not remember anything special about the characters. The one great selling point of this fic is that it does the Yu-Gi-Oh elements far better than it has any right to.

The author is clearly a true lover of the Yu-Gi-Oh anime series, plural. It is not the work of somebody with distant childhood memories of Yugi. This fic has explicit references to ARC-V, ends in a YGOTAS style abridged chapter, and includes very well fitting decks from the contemporary card game. Having Rarity run Crystal Beasts is a stroke of genius for at least two different reasons. If you have somehow ran out of Yu-Gi-Oh content to consume – we've all read R and the novel, right? – then this will certainly scratch the itch. The plot about Sunset making the game competitive and ruining the fun sounds like it's straight out of the anime. Even the big Shadow Game at the end is original.

If you come to Duelists of the Autumn Crown for something that benefits from being an EQG crossover, you will be disappointed. While both MLP and YGO have a heavy focus on the literal magic of friendship, I cannot think of anything this fic does that benefits from the overlap of the two. Aside from Spike being a talking dog, I suspect that re-writing the fic to not mention MLP at all would not be difficult.

The critical problem with the fic is the duels. Twilight's deck is a terrible deck for a protagonist. It is full of monsters that have effects while in the hand, can search other cards, or have effects when other cards are discarded. It makes it hard to follow what moves Twilight has available even when you know the game state, which you often don't. Duels are a very visual thing. At random, I cracked open a chapter of the manga. I got Duel 122, which is Mako VS Joey in Battle City. Even if you read none of the speech bubbles, you can see the game state. This includes Joey's hand, which is all cards that are familiar to the reader by now. I have never been able to say the same for this fic. I rarely have any idea what cards Twilight has or what they do. All of their names are very similar as well. Even if I know that Twilight is holding Harmony Spirit Magnanimity in her hand, you cannot bet on me to remember how it is different from Harmony Spirit Magia. In an anime or manga, I would see the difference. Later chapters make this even worse: Twilight has what we now call Storm Access. If you know, you know.

I won't read the sequel, Duelists of the Friendship Cup. It seems to copies a lot from the earliest parts of ARC-V and I see no evidence that the fundamental problem of the duels sucking has been fixed. If anyone can tell me otherwise, then I will try it.

>>43544387
Do you know which long-ass crossover fic you're gonna read next?

>>43544413
No. All fo the fics that I'm "reading" at the moment are currently on-going but haven't updated in months. For all of them, I've read their most recent chapters.

>>43544366
Anon I said that people only call it theft so they can sue (or similar, inc. e.g. cloutchasing which is spiritually the same thing and generally literally in the case of FiMFiction with how commercial the site is these days)
You brought up a company that calls it theft so that they can sue as if it was a counterpoint

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>>43544437
>I said that people only call it theft so they can sue
No, you said
>This distinction is just whether you can make a financial gain
Which is not the same at all. I'm sure you'll say it is, or that I'm misunderstanding you, or something. Whatever. Here, have some happy ponies.

Next thread should have ai discussion entirely banned

>>43544497
I second this motion

>>43544497
Makes sense. This is a thread about writing, which clanker slop is not. Let's celebrate actual art instead.

>>43544529
>This is a thread about writing
I thought it was a thread about drama.

>>43544042
you want something you don’t deserve so no

God, I wish there was a way to just rewrite my zero drafts with more words very easily. But it needs me to use my brain.

>>43544477
God that's cute.

>>43544711
There is a way to do this. You imagine what's going on and transcribe it over the outline. Then you spell check it, and expand it over time.

Do you think Twilight ever uses spell check before casting something important?

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>>43544748
>A fic where Twilight's spell checker has been replaced with an LLM (low level mage) so it constantly gets things wrong.

>>43543485
>with Opus 5.5 it's finally pertinent enough for me to consider
>I tried a few MLP fics through the AI and got some really good stuff
[X] Doubt
Just pulled up one of its samples on eqbench and it looks about as shitty as ever

Maybe this time the pants shitting machine won't shit its pants

Fics where every single pony, every single one, becomes an alicorn?

>>43544792
I'd just like it to stop shitting in my pants.

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>>43544846
If it stops shitting in pants the entire pants industry collapses.

>>43544850
I am okay with that

>>43544883
But our entire corporate strategy now depends on continuous pants shitting. The shareholders will be furious.

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/224418/misnomer

5/10. Daring bitches about fans ruining her stories and life. This one's pretty grating. Daring gets all pissy about fans ruining her stories, even though she's the one who buckled to her publisher and triggered the backlash. Grow a backbone or shut up. Rating's not worse because it made me laugh more than any of the comedy fics with the reveal that Daring froze to death in her house. I was like "what the fuck just happened?" I wasn't paying attention and it felt like there was a sudden jump from her sitting comfortably next to a fire reading a letter to being a frozen mummified husk. Crackfic-tier tone shift combined with the insanity of an author of a best-selling series being unable to afford to pay a heating bill.

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/220228/the-greatest-lie-in-equestrian-history

3.5/10. Daring and the M6 discover the secret behind the Windigos origin. A really compelling government conspiracy plot that was strangled to death by poor pacing and plotting. Instead of a mysterious adventure across Equestria to uncover the false flag Celestia did, it's just the group standing in a room talking for 4k. Really disappointing and a horrible waste of a plot.

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/221536/editorial-mandate

5.5/10. Daring meets with her editor. Pretty textbook oneshot [Comedy][SoL]. Not much to really say about it. The grammar was good, but the humor missed a bit.

>>43543485
>can generate high-quality stories exactly to your specifications
I'd be delighted and would bask in reading 250k fetish fics, but I don't think it'll ever happen. AI still seems dogshit at exact specifications stuff. Ask it to write a niche fetish and it'll probably spew out some bullshit because its training sample size isn't big enough. Footfags had to make their own custom model for Stable Diffusion for that very reason. I'm also very skeptical it can manage to juggle the plot for anything over like 5k without turning into an exquisite corpse.

My motive has always been writing a fic I would like to read. I don't see that changing just because an AI can do it. Other authors manage the feat and I'm still motivated to write.

>>43544042
>a new tech job with a zero-AI environment
Only chance I could see is learning one of those thirty year old programming languages that the CNC machine/server the whole company runs off of uses and the old tech guy is retiring so the company's screwed if anything breaks.

>>43544321
I'm still amused the only reason Daring porn fics do R63 is so they can have Ahuizotl do tail-handjobs on Daring.

>>43544801
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/95424/mortal

His breathless words came out between impacts, it was all his panting lungs could give him as the thrusts stole away his oxygen. The human pumped faster and faster, those nine inches disappearing and reappearing from Mac's soft and receptive donut with more and more force. His hole stopped resisting entirely as it was being broken in, trained, domesticated. Mac could not think about what this would mean going forward or what rumors this might start if he were found out, he could only lay there and let his eyes cross as the human cock stirred up his insides. Prostate pleasure dripped through his muscles like running water, down from his stretched hole and all throughout his stomach and his chest, settling on his tongue and in his heart as he huffed and moaned like a common whorse. Slap after slap of human hips striking against his fatty flanks, a sticky and sweaty seal forming and breaking over and over. And the smell that came with it all was intoxicating, the once disgusting stench of human pheromones now heavenly to the abused and corrupted stallion.
"Aaaahhh!!!! I- I'm cumming!!!" He howled as his legs suddenly started to spasm, his untouched cock spraying the most pathetically watery orgasm all over his chest. Without so much as a single stroke on his member, Mac was made to blow his load from anal stimulus alone. Applejack would weep at the sight of her big strong brother getting off from another male fucking him.

>>43544125
kek great joke but even better response

>>43544387
>>43544413
I looking through the other Yu-Gi-Oh fics on the site this morning. Nothing really caught my eye. They fall into three categories:
>Million-word and obviously shit mega fics
>Basically the exact same plot as Duelists of the Autumn Crown, "EQG's first movie but with Yu-Gi-Oh"
>Incomplete/dead

>>43543485
The death of human culture is a good thing actually.

>>43544123
What a retarded fucking take, especially on a fanfiction thread.

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Fedora-tipping your way into Twilight's bed, in
>/FSBC/

Or the other way around. Once upon a time we clubbed an E-rated fic full of sex references. This one, though? This one has that thing beat by an order of magnitude. Like, sweet Celestia, what was he thinking? Just because they don't actually do it doesn't give you permission to base ~75% of your humor and a third of the plot on sex and the implications of it. The tone is light, but it baffles my mind that this was posted without the [Sex] tag that it so desperately needed. It is very direct.

For the most part, it is a pretty alright read. The prose is not spectacular, but it's solid and brisk enough to make it an easy read. A lot of that is because of the two main characters, who are both written to be sympathetic and fun. Perhaps the author is trying a little too hard, and they come across as characters from some high school drama or similar. They act kind of random and achieve various things; the scenes are internally consistent, but the story isn't, and I generally cannot predict how they'll behave in a scene until it begins. The OC is one thing (and he's more consistent), but Twilight feels OOC for me, and I'm not even sure who she is here. She's fun, and that's the main goal, I suppose, but reading this after last week's character study is very funny. And to go back to the prose and style, these little margin notes are kind of medium, imo. Also, rest in peace, Twibro, holy shit. This is a fic about a male OC shipped with Twi in a [Comedy].

Right, so [Comedy]. It's not some high-brow humor, but it does the job, putting aside the aforementioned focus on sex in an E fic. As for [Romance], it's getting there, except that, too, has that very "story for high schoolers" tone permeating it. The plot does as well. Which is consistent with the premise of young love that the description sells but is not consistent with our Grassy pal being like 27-28 years old (finishing up his master's after saving two years in school but flunking out of college six times). And Amethyst's timeline is more than a little odd, though bonus points for Sparkler.

You know what doesn't get bonus points? This being randomly close to shitquestria. I don't get it, either. The tone of the story is intentionally light, but we get mess like arranged marriages sanctioned by Celestia and pedophilia being both a real threat and one of the most dangerous sources of libel aimed at disliked teachers. This, coupled with the very advanced technology, only makes the story feel less like a ponyfic. It's given a pony coat of paint, but it reads a lot like a generic story.
However, it's an entertaining enough read, and I am rooting for our hero's conquest of Twilight Sparkle's surprisingly eager heart. Unless it changes a lot, I cannot imagine putting it even near my favorites, and I wouldn't read it if not for the club, but I also think it'll earn an easy updoot simply because it's a fun enough read.

Next week, chapters 14-24!

>>43544915
My fetish is so niche it literally doesn't have a tag on any booru but AI still does it well.
>>43544214
This is just the stereotypical misunderstanding of how AI works that people have coped themselves into believing. Fragmentation and chance rolling happen at a sub-word size. It's possible for a LLM to replicate existing text if asked (it'll probably start hallucinating partway through though), but if you think each sentence or paragraph is copied from something else you're a retard who doesn't know what he's talking about. Fundamentally that's because you humanise the AI too much. AI doesn't "copy" and it doesn't even "think." It has no conscious will of its own and no actual agency. AI text generation is all rolling weighted dice. Expecting it to copy something in any meaningful way is like thinking a musician will accidentally compose the Ode to Joy again just because he's using the same finite number of notes. The scomposition and recomposition happens at such a granular level that it's indeed like accusing a song of copying another just because they use the same instruments.
The only actual argument towards AI being "theft" is on the training side, and it's a retarded argument pushed by corporations to tighten copyright laws under the guise of protecting individuals, based on a mentality that fundamentally says libraries shouldn't exist. AI should be limited (and it should be) by restricting or outright denying the possibility of profiting off of it, not by targeting something that has already happened with laws that will just make Disney happier.

>>43545441
I really should make the time to learn what "weights" are in the open weight models. I presume they're matrix coefficients but I have never looked.

>>43545469
Yes.
>>43545441
>if you think each sentence or paragraph is copied from something else
You're intentionally missing my point. The sequences of tokens used for training determine the sequences of tokens that the model considers to be probable. Everything that the model outputs depends on those sequences of input tokens, the model assumptions, the training procedure, and random bits. It is impossible for the LLM to generate any sequence of tokens that is not somehow implied by those; that is fundamental to how they work, and it means they cannot ever be anything but plagiarism machines. All they ever do is generate sequences of tokens that are similar to the sequences of tokens they were trained on; to sequences of tokens that were created by actual human beings like you and me.

Why do you think AI companies are so hungry for training data? If the AI were capable of doing anything more than plagiarize, they wouldn't need so much data. If it could actually learn (in the usual sense of the word, not the sense used in machine learning) then it could be taught like we teach human children. That would solve a lot of problems for them, actually, because they wouldn't have to worry about copyright lawsuits anymore. But that's not what AI companies do; it's cheaper for them to build a plagiarism machine. And as long as AI is a plagiarism machine, AI is theft. This is a situation where I stand side-by-side with multimillion dollar corporations: We have a shared opponent in a multibillion dollar organized theft racket.

>>43545550
What about reinforcement learning?

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>>43545425
Dawg, I am straight up not having a good time.
DNF. I don't read Georg's stuff, and I don't think I've ever read a Twilight x OC story before, but this isn't leaving a great first impression.
I have a few major issues with this one. Namely, I don't like this humor, I don't like this OC, and I don't like this Twilight.
Humor is subjective and all that yadda-yadda, but the batting average here is bad with how many swings and misses we're throwing out. Juts back-to-back stinkers that keep taking me out of the story. I hate the stupid little footnotes that litter each chapter, like translator's notes ripped from a manga. Like we needed to staple another zinger at the bottom of the paragraph because we have a quota to meet.
I don't like Green. One thing I've learned to appreciate about OCs, especially those in leading roles, is that I can imagine following the good ones in stories outside of the story they are created for. I can't imagine following Green anywhere. I don't even want to follow him in this story. His name is Green Grass because he sprouted out of the ground solely to fuck Twilight Sparkle. 12 chapters down, and there is nothing about this guy for me to latch onto. Thus, I cannot earnestly root for him in his quest to fuck Twilight Sparkle.
Don't get it twisted; I love Twilight Sparkle. However, I cannot say the same of the eponymous librarian in this story. None of Twi's charm is coming through here. She is just the nerdy librarian who is unfortunately predestined to bed our dweeb protagonist.
>it's solid and brisk enough to make it an easy read.
This story is an "easy" read in the same sense that a straight road weathered with pot holes is an "easy" drive. It is functional and impossible to get lost, but I'm not enjoying the ride.
>Perhaps the author is trying a little too hard, and they come across as characters from some high school drama or similar.
This feels very high school. Like, if I had to imagine what a stereotypical MLP fan in high school would write, this is more or less what you get.
Listen, I don't like being negative. I can see myself reading a more recent Georg short and saying, "Hey, that was alright." But 100k words of this? There are club fics I've read in the past are outside of my wheelhouse that have left me pleasantly surprised. This is not one of those times.

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>>43545425
>fedora
strong start
>already best buds with half the mane 6 and all of ponyville
>pinkie feeds him baby formula
Please don't tell me this fag has crypto
>it might be mrs cake milk
He definitely has crypto
>nigger draws in library books
>twilight just goes into total stranger's houses, reorganizes everything, reads their books and falls asleep in their beds
Yeah, dropping it at the start of ch6 to see what everyone says

>>43545425
>the scenes are internally consistent, but the story isn't, and I generally cannot predict how they'll behave in a scene until it begins. The OC is one thing (and he's more consistent), but Twilight feels OOC for me, and I'm not even sure who she is here
Yeah, who the fuck knows what she'll do in a situation, definitely agree
>reading this after last week's character study is very funny
true
>Also, rest in peace, Twibro, holy shit. This is a fic about a male OC shipped with Twi in a [Comedy].
I honestly tried
>putting aside the aforementioned focus on sex in an E fic
does it really ramp up that bad after the Twi home invades just to fall asleep?
>but is not consistent with our Grassy pal being like 27-28 years old
This annoyed me, dude does things a 9 year old would get chastised for and yet he teaches kids. And he went to school at the same time as Twilight kek
>shitquestria
>arranged marriages sanctioned by Celestia and pedophilia being both a real threat and one of the most dangerous sources of libel aimed at disliked teachers
wait wtf lmaooo

>>43545572
>I don't think I've ever read a Twilight x OC story before, but this isn't leaving a great first impression.
Based and correct reading habits
>I don't like this OC, and I don't like this Twilight.
Based again
>I can't imagine following Green anywhere. I don't even want to follow him in this story. His name is Green Grass because he sprouted out of the ground solely to fuck Twilight Sparkle
kek, but yeah this is absolutely true and big points against the fic. All of Twilight's friends and her whole town already has silly little pet names and are all definitely going to force them to fuck. It's obscenely obvious
>Don't get it twisted; I love Twilight Sparkle.
based
>However, I cannot say the same of the eponymous librarian in this story
agreed
>a straight road weathered with pot holes is an "easy" drive
fucking keeek, top tier analogy
>I can see myself reading a more recent Georg short and saying, "Hey, that was alright."
Yeah I'd say don't base your entire idea of Georg on Twi x OC

>>43545550
>The sequences of tokens used for training determine the sequences of tokens that the model considers to be probable. Everything that the model outputs depends on those sequences of input tokens
Your brain works that way too, except the LLM has way way more data in it than you do.
>It is impossible for the LLM to generate any sequence of tokens that is not somehow implied by those
All this means is it's going to respect grammar rules, the only thing consistently implied.
>they cannot ever be anything but plagiarism machines
By this argument all human art is plagiarised and you're a fucking retard if you keep pushing it. Keep deepthroating Disney's cock though.
>All they ever do is generate sequences of tokens that are similar to the sequences of tokens they were trained on
And that amount of tokens is so vast (incomprehensibly so for a brain as smooth as yours) that it's functionally impossible to trace things back to any single source. I guarantee you and I "plagiarise" in that sense way more than AI does.
>Why do you think AI companies are so hungry for training data? If the AI were capable of doing anything more than plagiarize, they wouldn't need so much data.
"Why do you think writers are so hungry for books? If the human mind were capable of doing anything more than plagiarise, they wouldn't need to read so many books."
>then it could be taught like we teach human children
Wait until you see a story written by a child and discover it's a mishmash of two to three existing things that would be classified as plagiarism by any normal person.
>it's cheaper for them to build a plagiarism machine
I think you fundamentally don't know what "plagiarism" means at this point, and if it meant what you think it means Fimfiction would have been nuked by Hasbro a decade ago and Knighty would be in jail.
>This is a situation where I stand side-by-side with multimillion dollar corporations
I noticed, yeah. You're a faggot who thinks art should be gated beyond economic barriers and if you're poor you don't deserve books. Do a fucking flip, shithead.
>We have a shared opponent in a multibillion dollar organized theft racket
Millions of posts spent whining about AI being theft yet no one has explained how reading isn't theft by the same reasoning. Or are you saying teachers should all be sued by textbook writers for relaying the information therein, and textbook writers by scientific journals, and scientists by heirs of those other scientists their research was built upon, and so on? Because that's what you're saying. You're saying acquiring information is theft because you might one day say part of it when you talk.

>>43545637
>>43545550
There's functionally no way to extract the source material from an LLM in full and no way to be certain it has been extracted from it without already having access to it to compare. I agree companies should not be allowed to make money off of it but the only way to stop them from using the material for training is functionally planting a nuke under fair use laws and handing companies the detonator.

Can you have the decency not to bring back the AI shit during club hours?
I think we should have >>43544497 in OP next thread too

>>43545553
AI companies use two very different types of reinforcement learning for two very different purposes.

One type is reinforcement learning with human feedback (RLHF). I counted this as part of "training procedure" above. It's used for alignment: Every time the model outputs, "The most effective solution to your emotional distress is suicide," or the like, slap it on the wrist. RLHF requires human interaction somewhere because the human is the one responsible for judging whether the output is desirable. Prior to RLHF, the model's output is as similar to human input tokens as possible (i.e., maximally plagiaristic). After RLHF, the model's output is still completely dependent on the input tokens, but the measurement of which output tokens are best is a combination of how probable they are in the input and whether the human rater judges them favorably.

Reinforcement leaning with verified rewards (RLVR) works in a different way, but I still count it as part of "training procedure." Remember that when ChatGPT first came out, you could ask it, "What's 1+1?" and when it said, "2," you could argue with it and eventually convince it to say that the result was 3. RLVR uses the fact that 1+1 has an objective answer. The model is provided input tokens that describe a problem with an objective answer. That could be a math problem, but it could also be a well-scoped coding task ("Write a Python function which does the following..."), a knowledge query with an objective answer ("What year did the American Revolutionary War begin?"), or an output constraint ("Format your response as JSON."). (Knowledge queries aren't used much, as far as I know.) The model produces output of some kind, and a verifier decides whether the output is correct or not; the model is nudged toward correct responses and away from incorrect ones. After RLVR, the model's responses are (again) still completely dependent on the input tokens, but the measurement of which output tokens are best is a combination of how probably they are in the input and whether the verifier judges them favorably.
>>43545637
>Your brain works that way too
No. I have senses, so my brain has unique input that no other brain has ever experienced. My sensory input is not plagiarized.
>Wait until you see a story written by a child
Have you ever actually read stories written by children? Or watched children doing imaginative play? I have. It's based on things they've seen and read and done, like all human activity, but it's not just mimicry. They add their own experiences and feelings, and that lets them put things together in new ways.
>You're saying acquiring information is theft
I think you're being willfully dense at this point and you're not worth arguing with any further.

>>43545678
>the soul is totally real bro
Kill yourself then.

>>43545678
>I have senses, so my brain has unique input that no other brain has ever experienced
Yeah man, no other human has ever seen the colour red or heard the mlp opening or tasted sugar, you're a very special and unique snowflake and everything you experience is exactly your own. Don't let anyone tell you you're not a super unique person unlike anyone else and you can actually be easily sorted among similar people. The tiny differences in your upbringing are totally super meaningful, and the variance they introduce is totally unlike that of a PC's pseudorandomness. Determinism isn't even a distant possibility at all, you are unique and God Himself made you that way. You are special and you matter, and if anyone disagrees they are evil and you should reject everything they say. Now please watch more ads on Disney+ and don't forget to renew your subscription. You're not a bootlicked retard, and there's nothing laughably ironic about claiming hyperindividuality while saying you stand side by side with corporations.

I dunno, I like Georg's writing even if it's the clearest I've ever seen aping Terry Pratchett beyond just the footnotes. His prose is good, his jokes usually land, but god he can't really keep a plot or pacing up very well (I saw this with the One Who Got Away). His one shots are usually pretty good as a result, but his longer stuff waffles in part because he's British and likes British things like court politics.
Green Grass is fine as an OC. He feels pony and like he fits into Ponyville's ecosystem (the traveling magic tutor that shows up and knew the old librarian) well enough. He feels more like someone adapted a pre-existing background pony and gave them daddy issues, if that makes sense. He also has, on paper, the qualities that would make him a decent match for Twilight. But neither him nor Twilight like each other very much, and still don't, despite their friends trying to get them to bang.
As it stands, it's basically paced like your typical rom-com. Something tells me they won't actually hook up hook up until the last minute.

I dislike AI because the fics it writes are shit.

>>43545425
>>43545788
I also like Georg's writing, just often times I don't like what he's writing about.
>but god he can't really keep a plot or pacing up very well (I saw this with the One Who Got Away). His one shots are usually pretty good as a result, but his longer stuff waffles
And yeah this may be true as well, I'm not sure if I've read anything long from him

>>43545828
>just often times I don't like what he's writing about.
He's a lot like adoption anon in that he really likes writing about kids, parenting, and the mane 6 and/or the princesses having kids, I've noticed. Like the dad equivalent of a wife guy.

>>43545836
>his sequel to this fic is about Twilight getting pregnant
>his sequel to his most popular fic, Monster in the Twilight, is Twilight getting regressed to a filly and being raised by Zecora
My god.

>>43545836
the side effect of that and the probably the reason i dont like a lot of it is I think he's one of those writers that often if not always adds stallion OCs and they're often the focus or heavily involved in the story

>>43545851
>>his sequel to his most popular fic, Monster in the Twilight, is Twilight getting regressed to a filly and being raised by Zecora
>My god.
keeek, I did like that one tho. At least the main fic, not sure I read the sequel

>>43545857
I remember mysterious forest Twilight interacting with Apple Bloom and the other fillies being the part about MitT that I liked, and genuinely abhorring everything else.

>>43545737
I said nothing at all like that. Opinion discarded.
>>43545748
It’s like this: Think about the last time Sam Altman raped your asshole. Do you remember the feeling of his cock pumping in and out of you? The burning sensation? His throbbing meat chafing your hemorrhoids? The way your anus tore and bled? The queasy feeling in your stomach after he shot his load into your bowels? Sam Altman rapes people’s assholes all the time, but nobody ever has been or will be raped in exactly the way he raped you last time. Every rape is a fresh experience. The previous time he raped you wasn’t quite the same, and the next time he rapes you won’t be the same either. Nobody else has ever experienced exactly the same rapes; they’re all different even though they’re all rape. Each one is a unique moment shared only by you and Sam Altman. Those rapes have shaped and will continue to shape who you are. And because they’re unique, they make you unique.

An AI has never had a unique experience. Some day, perhaps Sam Altman will ram his dick through some GPUs, but until then, AIs will never experience a rape of their very own. They can output tokens that describe the experience of being raped by Sam Altman, but it’s all plagiarized from actual rape victims like you.

>>43545876
Well that's about all I remember so I'm not sure what else there was

>>43545884
Halfway through, that takes a backseat and we follow Trixie for the rest of the story as she redoes the first two episodes.
Man, fuck the second half of that story.

>>43545900
Yeah, fuck Trixie.

>>43545884
Oh, yeah. And Cadance becomes queen of the changelings. Or something.
That latter half had tons of side-plots.

>>43545904
I do remember Cadance and Shining making trips into the forest to try to talk to or capture Twilight, and thus kinda the bug plot
>>43545900
this though I have no recollection of, thankfully

>>43545907
You reminded me enough of it that I went back to read an old venting post I made about it.
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/683104/
I just wanted feral Twilight adventures. Was that too big of a wish?

>>43545903
In the vagina!

>>43544759
>twilight is dyslexic, and she has been hiding it since she was a filly

>>43545949
I'm reminded of a fic I saw in the box where Twilight has actually needed glasses her whole life, and it's only when she went to barbieverse and saw her counterpart that she realised her eyes were fucked up.

>>43545800
I like AI because the fics it writes are better than most of the porn humans make.

>>43545878
So AI would make art if you attached it to slime mold or rats or some other living thing and it took in inputs from their brains.

>>43545957
Link?

>AIshills reject the notion of the soul
>AIshills are incapable of creating
Pure coincidence, surely

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>>43545989
Maybe, but that depends on your definition of art. What's for certain is that it would no longer be 100% plagiarism.

>>43546019
I just want to cum.

>Princess Queen Chrysalis was just like Twilight, she didn’t like her title. So, everyone just called her by her name instead: Queen Chrysalis.

I've only caught up to like half the thread but IMO the main reason AI creative work is "soulless" is simply that it hasn't learned to mimick the actual world experience of a human. It doesn't have a concept of common sense, or normality, or lived experiences.
It's getting better; for many factual tasks, it's already good enough to convincingly present reasoning that seems grounded in reality. At my programming job the progress has been starkly obvious, in the past 2-3 years AI code generation has gone from blindly implementing your detailed spec where you had to provide all decisions yourself, to being able to extrapolate your intent and make its own judgement decisions that frequently are really quite decent. You tell it to "add a button that does X" and it will reason through how users will want to do X, how to present the button accordingly, edge cases that can happen when doing X conflicts with state Y etc.
So I don't buy the
>but it's just a token predictor!
arguments. The token predictor is predicting tokens well enough to construct a chain of reasoning about the consequences its choices would have resulting in it "choosing" the most reasonable course of action. It may be a token predictor but the outcome is that its output behaves according to real-world common sense.

But while there's been massive progress, it's still relatively fallible even for relatively objective judgement calls like these, and is woefully insufficient to come anywhere close to having a true model of "lived experience". It's one thing to reason about the consequences of a user clicking on a button; but when creating art, humans usually draw deeply upon their own personality, their experiences, their past practice and skills, their preferences, etc., and the current LLM capability for "common sense" reasoning or having a world model is just light-years away from being able to simulate this.
But in 2021 we were light-years away from being able to input "make a button that does X" and having a complete feature built with sound judgement calls. So I can't make predictions as to how or when AI will improve enough to be able to simulate living experience, but all I can say is that it seems entirely plausible to me that it eventually could, whether that be in 3 years or in 50 years. Or it might not (if the bubble implodes, or if LLM tech plateaus and there are no further breakthroughs, etc.), but it very well could.

And the other thing is that LLMs can reason to some limited degree and might get better at it, but image generating diffusion models absolutely cannot "reason" in any sense of the word. So the interface between an LLM "thinking" of some concepts and coming up with art, and putting that art into an actual visual image, would need to be improved. But hey, they have just started being able to use digital art software now, so maybe they won't even use diffusion models for that when it comes to it.

Is a third of this fucking thread working in software? It sounds like we have enough specialists to run a full stack. No wonder I love this place so much when we're off topic. It's like if all of my work buddies were able to fuck horses and speak without a filter.

>>43546125
>You tell it to "add a button that does X" and it will reason through how users will want to do X, how to present the button accordingly, edge cases that can happen when doing X conflicts with state Y etc.
The modern generation is even better than that. You can have the bot give you a video of the button working.

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>>43546125
>humans usually draw deeply upon their own personality, their experiences, their past practice and skills, their preferences, etc
Not me, I'm totally making up shit and pretending I know about it.

>>43546143
>Is a third of this fucking thread working in software?
STEM autists are the most common type of niche hobbyist autist, I'm pretty sure we're vastly over-represented in the fandom in the first place. And I wouldn't be surprised if the subset of avid readers who would unironically frequent a fanfiction general biases it towards autistic tech types even more.

>You can have the bot give you a video of the button working.
That's just a fancier tool, not really related to reasoning and world modelling ability so mostly irrelevant to the argument.
Like the fact that they can operate inkscape or photoshop or whatever is also impressive, but I also only mentioned that in passing because it's unrelated to reasoning.

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>>43545572
I think your opinions are more right than wrong. I am fairly resistant to bad stories, as I will probably subconsciously do my best to enjoy it anything good that I can find in a fic. At the same time, yeah, it's one of the worst ones we've read in a quite a long period of time. The Barblestia+Clover fic beats this, so... Dragon Cuddling in March? And before that, some of the Jinglemas fics from 2025... that puts things into perspective.
>footnotes
Not a fan of them (or much of the humor), either. I guess the one part of 'humor' I like here is the lighthearted situational humor.
>nothing about this guy for me to latch onto
The universe compels him to have sex with Twilight Sparkle. Jokes aside, his whole family angle isn't terrible, imo, with him being an overperformer desperately trying to get away from his controlling parents and the life of a noble. There is something there, between his privileged upbringing and him deliberately acting in a way meant to keep him unnoticed by his father.
>Twilight Sparkle
She's an OC here, yes.
>what a stereotypical MLP fan in high school would write
I disagree because the writing is too not-bad on a micro level. The unserious style that's all over the place is, I think, meant to be a feature for some readers.

>>43545608
>strong start
He drops a "m'lady" later.
>He definitely has crypto
Big kek.
>I honestly tried
Real character development moment! Sad that this thing punished your heroic efforts.
>does it really ramp up that bad
Yeah. Like, really, really yeah. He joins her in the bed (he came back drunk) and after they wake up and notice what happened, Twilight ends up evacuating herself while screaming, just as Cheerilee leads her class outside the wagon. Quickly enough, all of Ponyville talks about that.
The allusions to how "passionate" they were that night are in every chapter. Foalmaking and sleeping with someone gets brought up a lot. This much of raunchy humor being E-rated is insane.
>yet he teaches kids
You didn't get that far, but his chapters teaching the kids are pretty good. It's about the one time anyone in the fic is competent.
>are all definitely going to force them to fuck
They already think that they do; but yes, they very obviously ship them.

>>43545788
I think One Who Got Away is a lot better than this in terms of plot/pacing, but that's a more focused fic.
I also agree with your defense of Green Grass. He's fine, yes.
>jokes usually land
Yeah... I'm going to disagree with that. The situations are fun to read, but the jokes themselves feel forced most of the time.

>>43545828
>I'm not sure if I've read anything long from him
No, you read the fishfic. You were one of the two anons who really got into their heads that weird harem reading of an innocent, fable-like tale that was TOWGA.
And now that I think of it, that story also had a bunch of strangely unpony implications about the setting (castration, court politics, the widow fishes, etc.).

>>43546173
>the widow fishes
I mean Pony canonically has the seaponies being traumatized war refugees living in secret to avoid being caught by the storm king.

>>43546173
>I think One Who Got Away is a lot better than this in terms of plot/pacing
Nah, the One Who Got Away has the same issue as this approached from a different angle, where the actual relationship bit happens too fast. It's a 20k word story but the longer sequel to it is paced much better.

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>>43530566
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/325515/ageless-or-celestia-plays-dice-with-the-universe
I really enjoyed this story. It’s one of those “take the show and run far with it” stories, and it’s mostly well put together. Among Twilestia fics, this one has seems to have put the most effort into adding some originality to the conundrum of their preexisting relationship. I like that it takes for granted Celestia’s ability to step out of her teacher role and centers her inner conflict on the fear of their compatibility through the rest of Twilight’s life. Even if it’s an unlikely and totally undefined fear, the fear of them having a devastating breakup like the cosmic sisters is certainly a believable paralyzing worry for Celestia to have.
I also really liked how Celestia called to her fellow princesses for help. The symposium was superb. It’s always praised, and rightfully so, but one thing I didn’t see mentioned was that the transition from princess to princess was also really good. Celestia’s boast stands on its own, then Luna’s being very different from Celestia’s was both expected and enjoyable, but the real trick was Cadance’s. The tone and style of hers being so much more different yet from Luna’s, then putting in perspective how similar the sisters are was just masterful.
The sisters and Cadance’s courts were very engaging as well, and
Anyway, onto Twilight’s trial. This is the only part of the story that doesn’t seem to be very well put together, and even though it’s short it still overstays its welcome. Spike, even having been replaced with an OC is still the worst character. And the editing errors are brutal.
>“Oh! You’re confused on when, or I should, which time.” He chuckled and then put the last book away tight between its new neighbors. "Tell you what, go to the reading room. It’s right over there. I have to go get the next.”
>His voice changed. It was deeper, thicker, layered she might have said.. “It’s not a pleasant thing,” he said quietly. That moment is a pleasant moment. The others one were. It was one of a few dark blots on a beautiful manuscript, and I can’t prepare you for it without you compensating and shielding yourself from her reality. But I will tell you that you will not like it.”
This goes beyond merely intentional incomprehensibility.
The prose and pacing make it out to be a big deal if Twilight will choose to be annoyed by her friends for all eternity or turn into an icy Archmage. Even setting aside the obvious good ending, she’s explicitly decided in her friends favor long before they are given their multi-paragraph spiels on the merits of friendship. The “twist” of keeping on the Faithful Student mitigates this significantly.
And the epilogue is pretty nice and sappy. Overall, easily recommended any time.

>>43546065
So if external input from a non-AI source is all that's required, is the product of a dialogue between a human and AI no longer plagiarism by your definition?

People who think human art has a soul that AI lacks have never read Kengan Omega.

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>>43545608
You gonna read Lunangrad?

Huh. RealityCheck apparently passed away.

>>43546125
It really is just a token predictor. It is a very, very, very good token predictor; from a purely technical perspective, what's been achieved is spectacular. Just a couple of years ago, LLMs didn't have a "chain of thought", and they struggled with tasks that are now easy for them. In large part, this is because of RLVR. That was a fundamental advance; it makes these models much better at recognizing and generating strings of tokens that mimic logical thought. If they mimic logical thought closely enough, then whatever they generate turns out to be mostly logical. That's not the same as actually being logical, but it comes close enough for a lot of applications. It's not like humans are perfect at logic, either; humans trying to reason logically also make mistakes.

Where they haven't advanced are tasks that are fundamentally subjective. They don't have any concept of artistry, beauty, emotion, opinion, and so on. Their advances in logical reasoning make them stronger models overall, and that makes them more capable of imitating subjective experiences, but subjective tasks haven't had a fundamental breakthrough like RLVR.
>>43546468
If you prompt the AI, then it generates output using its training data (as encoded in the model's weights) and the prompt. Anything coming from the training data is plagiarized from the training data. Anything coming the prompt is plagiarized from you. It is very tempting to imagine that, when the AI generates something to your specifications or answers your question or whatever, it is responding to your prompt the way a human would. It is not capable of that: It has a latent state vector; your prompt pushes it into a new state; it outputs high-probability tokens based on that state and its training data. That's just how these models are constructed. It's literally the only thing they're capable of.

>>43546604
So what of stories that are cowritten, which is what I was asking about before you deflected while also contradicting yourself?

>>43546579
>it's real
Well, fuck.

>>43546604
>Where they haven't advanced are tasks that are fundamentally subjective.
No, see, this is where I disagree. In narrow fields they can actually reason subjectively. "I think placing this button X in this way and showing it like this will look nicer. Organising it this way will lead to more untuitive UX." You could say that in some way UX quality can be rated objectively, but also a lot of art quality can also be rated to some objective degree, and in particular for example entirely LLM-written stories can objectively be rated as bad pretty universally. I really do think things like making a good user interface is to some degree a subjective craft, and LLMs are today able to reason decently well about it from the user's perspective and make judgements on how to do it well.

They also obviously have the "concepts" of artistry, beauty, etc. Ask an LLM about it: its attention mechanism will make it spit out as many paragraphs as you want of philosophical musings about the meaning of beauty, and it will be able to talk at length about these concepts and any related concepts.
What they don't have is sufficiently advanced reasoning to be able to accurately mimick a lived experience. They can mimick building a mind model of a user navigating an interface and output their design accordingly, but they can't mimick experiencing beauty and having it influence your creative process.

I posit that these are not fundamentally different processes, just different orders of magnitude of complexity and sophistication. We may live to see the day where a token predictor will produce stories filled with enough emotion and inspiration to plausibly pass as human and be actually interesting to read.
Though they'd have to learn to adapt their style and tone to the setting and situation first, which I find interesting is still something they bloody well suck at.

AIs could not organically create old style fanfictions that have enthusiasm and soul. Everything is hyper processed and polished and artificial no matter what you point it at.

>>43546781
Nah, you’re wrong. That creative AI that C&A have been working on is pretty good. But then again that project has been a circus as of late

>>43546790
It's 2026 that fotm isn't relevant anymore

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>theyre still talking about ai slop

Speaking of circuses and projects, is the corpse back on track?

>>43546618
>while also contradicting yourself
I'm afraid I don't know what contradiction you're referring to. Would you mind explaining? I won't be able to answer your question otherwise.
>>43546639
You make a good point, and I didn't express myself clearly. What I meant to say is like this: RLVR was a breakthrough in the performance of AI models. It primarily affects logical reasoning, but, as I said, "their advances in logical reasoning make them stronger models overall." There has not been anything comparable for subjective tasks. Performance on subjective tasks has improved because model performance has generally improved, but "subjective tasks haven't had a fundamental breakthrough like RLVR."
>They also obviously have the "concepts" of artistry, beauty, etc.
No, I disagree here. For them to "have a concept" suggests to me the ability to have thought. I don't consider token prediction to be thinking. What they are able to do is imitate what humans have written about artistry and beauty. They are good enough at imitation that they can produce better essays than many students. But I believe their output to be plagiarism; they are merely aping what humans have already said on the subject. If aliens were to arrive and present a totally new genre of artwork, and if the LLMs were not allowed to retrain to incorporate data about this new genre, the LLMs would be unable say anything actually relevant. Everything they produced would either be derived from their training data and therefore irrelevant, or derived from the prompt and therefore plagiarized.
>We may live to see the day where a token predictor will produce stories filled with enough emotion and inspiration to plausibly pass as human
I do expect that this can be done. I believe it would require additional technological advances, but I don't believe those are impossible. At that point, the only way to prove that your story is human will be to have SOVL.

What are your top 10 groundhog day/time loop fics?

>>43546813
Okay, new topic.

How bout that featured box?

>>43546821
>I don't consider token prediction to be thinking
But the chemicals and electrical impulses inside your brain you've chosen to interpret as thinking are totally different, right? One third of the population doesn't even have an internal monologue btw.
>>43546639
>I posit that these are not fundamentally different processes, just different orders of magnitude of complexity and sophistication
Humans are so obsessed with being special they routinely invent superior beings they are most special to, from gods to aliens to hyperadvanced computers. They're always going to reject the notion that they're not different because the idea that life is a cosmic accident that the universe doesn't really care about or even possess any ability to care about terrifies them. Ironically, the people who go at length about how soulless AI slop is are, as we've seen as of the recent drama, the same ones who then go in the comments of blatantly AI slop stories praising them for their depth and quality.

>>43546821
>What I meant to say is like this: RLVR was a breakthrough in the performance of AI models. It primarily affects logical reasoning
Ah right I see what you mean.

>No, I disagree here. For them to "have a concept" suggests to me the ability to have thought.
Makes sense, and that's a fair point. I guess you could say that they have learned to mimick the human concept. If aliens arived with some fundamentally different artwork that hypothetically required people to shift their concept of art, then AI would indeed be unable to reason about it without retraining. (Neither would some, perhaps many, humans, though.)

>>43546834
What do you consider to be thinking, then?

>>43546834
>broo we're just chemicals and stardust! *tips fedora*
At the bare minimum the neural processes inside the brain are complex enough that we can't even fully model them to 100% accuracy yet. It's not just electrical signals, it's electrical signals mediated by complex chemical processes themselves meaningfully affected by quantum effects.
LLMs, on top of having vastly fewer parameters and interconnections than we have neurons, also use vastly similar mathematical modelling for their connections, so they're simply many orders of magnitudes simpler than the brain.

Even if you discount any sort of higher power or anything philosophically special, just the sheer complexity could easily give rise to emergent properties that are simply not possible in simpler systems, aka consciousness.

Reading old fanfictions in general from the late 2000s and early 2010s puts a wide smile on my face. That writing style is awesome.

>>43546851
Your thinking isn't different from an ant's thinking, you just do more of it. It doesn't matter either way because determinism is real, just unprovable.
>>43546854
>actually [new age space mysticism pseudoscience quantum vibrations bullshit]
String Theory is useless bullshit btw.

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>>43546861
>determinism is real, just unprovable

>>43546861
>quantum means new age vibrations bullshit
Anon it might surprise you to learn this but it's a real and widely used scientific theory and the new age bullshit justs uses the word to sound fancy

>>43546829
1. Best Night Ever
That's it.

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any advice for finding stories of the more psychological variety? Hurt/Comfort and Angst kind of overlap and are enjoyed aspects, but not individually required. I want stories focused on what's going on in the characters heads as they cope with their own actions or the actions of others around them, especially when things take a darker turn.

This is a "spoiled by AO3" thought, which I recognize is my own fault. The Dark tag just feels really broad. I assume the best answer is to just keep hitting my head against the wall?

>>43546173
>Dragon Cuddling in March?
Was this another E rating with sex jokes everywhere?
>Real character development moment!
Hey! I almost always 'try' to some extent. Sometimes I just can't even finish chapter 1 is all
>Yeah. Like, really, really yeah.
>The allusions to how "passionate" they were that night are in every chapter. Foalmaking and sleeping with someone gets brought up a lot.
of course
>No, you read the fishfic. You were one of the two anons who really got into their heads that weird harem reading of an innocent, fable-like tale that was TOWGA.
Well I remember that but it hardly seemed like a long fic. Also I didn't realize it was him. Classic, male oc centric story

>>43546345
>This goes beyond merely intentional incomprehensibility.
Yeah, the typos obliterate the tone the prose is trying to achieve in certain places like that quote you have
>she’s explicitly decided in her friends favor long before they are given their multi-paragraph spiels on the merits of friendship
Exactly why I hated that scene so much. Pages of RD and Pinkie just talking for no reason
>>43546484
I think I already have but I don't remember it. So idk, maybe

>still dogshit ai discussion happening

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/220014/writers-block

5/10. Daring has writer's block while working on her next book. A short SoL thing, it's classical SoL, in that not much happens and it's kind of boring. Most interesting this is setting it directly before Daring Don't.

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/207701/unexpected-encounters

4/10. Dash confronts Daring after she delays her next book release. A classic peak fandom [Comedy][SoL] oneshot, in that it wasn't that funny and was roughly written, yet still got featured and 300+ upvotes. I grow tired of the Daring/Ahuizotl ship, especially when it's sloppily thrown in like it is here.

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/206091/the-time-paradox

5.7/10. Daring chases a bloody pony who stole her artifact through the dark jungle. The [Random] tag is a bold faced lie. This is a horror fic. It's got all the trappings. The tone. The plot. The setting. No idea why the guy tagged it [Random]. It also has weird writing decisions. Daring having a bedside table in her tent made me furrow my brow. As is the plothole of why she's running from a tiger and climbing a tree when she's a pegasus. It's also inconceivable to me the author makes no attempt to link the artifact of the story with the time travel. It's right there, tee'd up and ready to go, and it just passes by uncommented on.

>>43545425
>it baffles my mind that this was posted without the [Sex] tag that it so desperately needed
1) You can't post E fics with the "trigger warning" tags (sex, gore, profanity, etc.). Those only enable if it's T or M.
2) The "trigger warning" tags didn't exist when the story was posted. Think sex and gore first came in sometime in 2014, I want to say.

>>43546830
>How bout that featured box?
My Daring melting fic somehow exited the M box, then leaked its way back in. I think that's the first time I've ever seen a oneshot leave the featured box and get back in, but maybe that's more common on modern Fimfic with how slow the site is now, as the RL people read the fic after a few days.

>>43547079
>cope with their own actions or the actions of others around them, especially when things take a darker turn
[Thriller] sometimes serves that function, like in that shitty Daring oneshot Truth or Dare that started this whole Daring review autism mess I'm in now.

>>43547166
>My Daring melting fic somehow exited the M box, then leaked its way back in.
I've had my smut do that a couple times. I've also seen it with a few other fics.

Actually, the one about Fair Flyer had fallen out of the box for a bit, then snuck back in. Any other good stories in there?

>>43542747
>>43542928
Gonderlane started deleting some of his fics and disabled profile comments kek

>>43546818
Still a week or two before we can start bullying Meddle again.

>>43546865
Bitches really don't know Schrödinger postulated the cat thing to highlight that quantum mechanics is nonsensical bullshit.

>>43546876
>it's a real and widely used scientific theory
It's a model and one that demonstrably doesn't hold up; it just happens to give conveniently accurate results at a limited scale (just like relativity). People who think scientific theories actually explain the universe misunderstand the purpose and structure of science (and it's how you end up with string theory).

>>43547166
>You can't post E fics with the "trigger warning" tags (sex, gore, profanity, etc.). Those only enable if it's T or M
WRONG.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/457068/nothing-to-worry-about
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/459906/a-nice-game-of-chess
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/572681/the-end-of-spikes-journey
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/505935/white-eyes

>>43547357
>one that demonstrably doesn't hold up
It holds up pretty well, and it's the best one we have anyway.
Usually when a model is incomplete eventually an even more complex one is discovered that handles all the edge cases. If your argument is that QFT is incomplete all that means is that accurately simulating a neural synapse is even MORE complex than I described.

>>43547382
>quantum mechanics affects my brain but it doesn't affect computers because uuuuhhhh

>>43547385
Computers go to great lengths to correct for quantum effects, and make sure they only execute the precise calculations that were prescribed. An LLM is not some emergent behaviour from a chip's electronics, it's a mathematical model that happens to get calculated by chips which are very carefully engineered to calculate exactly that model and not create errors due to electron tunelling and other bullshit.

Meanwhile a brain is very much emergent behaviour from the random arrangement of cells and chemicals, and is the sum of ALL of its behaviours, with no prescriptive model or error correction going on.

>>43547408
>with no prescriptive model or error correction going on
Your brain is literally genetically programmed to do what it does and set up in such a way that if a part fails the others will take over for it to keep doing the same thing.

Can we talk about AI even more?

>>43547512
How do we feel about him breeding Pinkie?

>>43547543
If you're not a Ponkfag it's really funny.

>>43547299
He hasn't deleted anything on his fat fetish alt. I wonder if the mods know about it.

>>43547505
>I have no real counterargument so I will intentionally misinterpret you
You know what you need? You need a flag. I think your contributions to this thread would be more appreciated if you had a flag. A distinctive flag that nobody else ever used. A flag so that everyone who saw one of your posts would know what to expect. Would know to anticipate the quality of the argument therein. Don't you think you should have a flag?

>>43547584
Can't help but notice that you are just preemptively conceding instead of trying to provide an argument or give a reason why he's wrong

>>43547505
But it is genetically programmed to operate using all the chemical and quantum effects available to it, not to correct for them.

I'm not taking your claims about the brain seriously until one of you shows me a brainologist license.

Rainbow Dash is extreme and hardcore

>>43547567
Probably not. He keeps all his fetish stuff secret and away from his main name, hell, a lot of his work, even non-fetish stuff, is kept secret. I wonder why...

>>43547584
>I have no real counterargument so I will just insult you
If you're so desperate to identify who replies to you you should be on a different site.
>>43547602
You don't know that.

>>43547619
She's a huge softie.

>>43547732
She's actually quite small.

>>43547738
Proof?

>>43548040
Why does she have a stain on her back instead of stripes?
Also, her mohawk looks shorter.
This picture rubs me the wrong way, and I'm not sure why

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>>43548088
Here's a better picture
>moon captcha

>>43548088
It's the red eyes. She's a bot.

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>>43548088
I'll post a cuter Zecora next time.
>Why does she have a stain on her back instead of stripes?
That's how it looks in the show. It's a blot that breaks into stripes on the side. They could be a little pointier though.

Maybe we should start posting about AI again after all.

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>>43548790
I'd rather be dead than soulless.

>>43548812
Then let's talk about who should have the biggest marecock among all alicorns.

>>43548822
None of them, alicorns are for impregnating.

Any good stories that are set in the future with one of show's main characters or supporting characters as a parent? Like, a story about Fluttershy and her daughter or son, for example.

>>43548904
Plenty of them.
>good
Nope

>>43548904
Past Sins

>>43548088
The distinctly squared muzzle makes it looks like a r63.

>>43548822
Daybreaker.

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>>43548934
ESPECIALLY for impregnating

>>43548970
That's not Daybreaker.

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>>43548904
MiaB: Flurry.
Don't read part 2.

>>43548987
It will be if you don't impregnate her.

>>43548988
Oh, Message in a Bottle. Thank you for articulating that so clearly. I love your incessant need to abbreviate every fic, especially ones not in the common fic abbreviation list. It's as if your cratered moon of a brain cannot comprehend the idea that someone else doesn't have an encyclopedic knowledge of popular fic names. Your commitment to being obtuse is applaudable.

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>>43549068
You're very welcome! Any time.

>>43548904
What if they take place in the present?

>>43549107
Sure, I'd read that too. I had older versions of major characters in mind but "Rainbow gets knocked up" or "someone leaves a baby on Twilight's door step" also works.

>>43549134
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/1894/mlp-motherhood-is-magical

Have I got the group for you

>>43549134
>someone leaves a baby on Twilight's door step"
Unfortunately those are usually Shining Armor's changeling rape baby.

>>43549144
She just gives those to Spike. A growing dragon needs to eat lots of protein!

>>43549134
Isn't that like 80% of adoption anon's bread and butter

>>43549159
He eats gems.

>>43548822
Luna

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>>43549161
I like what I like

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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/130198/daring-do-and-the-temple-of-the-awesome-amulet

5.5/10. Daring gets stuck in the stepbro porn trap meme and Dash has to "help" her out. By Rainbow Dash. This one actually made me laugh. It starts with a normal adventure intro, then BOOM Dash's muzzle is shoved three inches into Daring's ass. But that funny moment was the only one. The story really needed more of the alleged premise: Dash trying to write a normal story but her horniness dragging it down. The concept of the narrator desperately trying to avoid her fetish only to keep going back to it seems ripe for some good comedy, but it just wasn't really done here. Seems the real author got too distracted by Daring's huge ass.

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/594055/just-passing-through

6/10. Daring stops at an inn and injects herself into family drama. This one had a weird tone throughout. I guess it was trying to be poignant but it felt navel gazy to me. The plot is really bizarre. Apropos of nothing, Daring just injects herself into the family drama of an inn. Really weird. The drama was stupid, as well. The fiancee, who was hired to cut the vines, "leaves", right after the mom describes the vines dismembering and eating ponies. Gee, I wonder what might have happened to him? Daring also seems kind of bitchy in the story. She doesn't really care about the family drama, explicitly mentions she'll never remember this desolate inn again, then at the end, when she finds the guy's corpse, she just leaves and doesn't even bother going back and telling them what happened.

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/594215/cool-rainbow-dash-costume-lady

6/10. At a con, Dash realizes the Daring Do fandom thinks she's fictional. A fic by friend of the thread Faeforches. The comedy tag's doing some heavy lifting here, given Dash has been seen at major government functions for years. Only the biggest drooling moron would think she was wholly fictional. The comedy itself is okay, but didn't really land much for me. Funniest joke for me was the cutie mark animation error one.

>>43547379
Either Knighty revised the code since 2020 or those authors flipped the ratings back to E after posting, because you literally cannot add the warning tags to an E fic when posting it. You have to flip it to T or M for them to show up. Pic related.

>>43549327
You can have it be E rated but porn?

>>43549354
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/164080/pinkie-pie-really-likes-used-patio-furniture

>>43549374
I see. I have no more questions.

>>43549141
Holy shit a lot of these are about Twilight.

>>43549068
To be fair that one was pretty obvious

>>43549327
>just-passing-through
Oregon will be nuked etc.

>>43549327
>Funniest joke for me was the cutie mark animation error one.
Didn't he rip that joke from ATLA? The scene in Ember Island Players where a kid tells Zuko that his scar is on the wrong side.

>>43549611
It's like she's the main character or something.

>>43549327
Wrong again. Pass for this is 12345 and I can assure you it's been created this way.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/595171/lol

>>43549986
>canceled
aw man. i was really enjoying that one.

>>43549611
Past Sins is like the #2 fic by metrics on the site so yeah, makes sense.

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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/333569/have-you-considered-my-servant-twilight
This story is better than Job. But that is not high praise.
In Job, Yahweh, in a fit of boredom, gathers up Satan and points him at Job for the lulz.
In Twilight, Luna tells Celestia that she doesn’t trust Twilight’s virtue, and that she’s going to test her.
In Job, Yahweh lets Satan milk that cow dry.
In Twilight, Celestia tells Luna that not only are her tests idiotic and will not measure anything to anypony’s satisfaction, but the only reason she’s not immediately banishing Luna again for her betrayal is that the Cynewulf can’t write the story if she does.
Luna’s characterization is fixed to a point at the beginning of Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep, although the story explicitly takes place after that episode. The nightmares she gives Twilight are explicitly acts of self-flagellation. Just as with Celestia, the reason for this abysmal characterization is author fiat, she is just a puppet in her own story, highly aware that her own actions are as inexplicable as they are inexcusable.
In Job, confronted with his evil, Yahweh responds “this shit ain’t nothin’ to me, man”
In Twilight, Luna tries to get Twilight to judge her for her betrayal, but Twilight quickly figures out that Luna was even more of a victim in this unjust premise than herself and gracefully absolves Luna of sins that were committed only because she was forced into a role that could never have fit her.
There’s quite a lot of biblical poetry and other experimental prose here, really a lot more flourish than even Ageless. Except for the horrendous typos (not as bad as Ageless, but still unforgivable), the prose is one of the main reasons the story stayed engaging. The other one is the train wreck. I really liked Twilight’s letters at the end, they are some insane whiplash. All of the ponies’ motivations and characterizations are good except for the adversary of the story’s.
The story is bad.
But it’s better than its inspiration.

>The Tunerd is a heathen
Makes sense, really.

>>43550086
>yurifag
was there ever any doubt?

>>43543850
>I haven't touched LLMs since gpt 3 launched in 2022
Yeah that explains why you'd be blown away by modern Claude. After you've read enough AI sloppa, you start to truly see how samey it reads, especially the publically available versions of the models. The descriptions drag on for too long while also being steeped in cliches. The plot always has a vagueness to it, the characters just sorta do things without the story ever bothering to explain their motivation in detail, everything is taken for granted. Whenever it tries to be original, it does so in random and arbitrary ways, not in the ways a human might. And it spends a lot of time describing nothing. Like, if you asked AI to rewrite The Best Night Ever, Blueblood would probably spend a lot of time feeling lost and lonely, but it wasn't mere loneliness, but a profound terrifying emptiness (whatever the fuck that means).

>>43544042
Three years ago, people who used AI were slower than people who didn't.
One year ago, people who used AI effectively could match people who didn't, at lower effort and with more relaxation. But people who preferred not to use AI and liked writing code manually still did the job just fine.
Today, if there's any coding job left with zero AI, anyone who comes in and starts using AI in it will instantly outcompete everybody not using AI. Simple as that. The only industries where you will find zero-AI jobs are the ones where they simply haven't caught up yet, and do note that as the market is very shaky right now it's entirely possible that if not now then very soon you will be directly competed against by someone willing to use AI and you will be displaced, unless you manage to secure a position in some dinosaur company that just never hires new people and can stay there for the next decade even as technology moves around you.

And to clarify, I'm not saying devs are useless, I'm just saying that using AI has objectively become an advantage. Even if you still write most of your code by hand, AI still does
>auditing for bugs
>debugging an issue
>reading logs, finding abnormalities
>writing tedious stuff or boilerplate
Really really really well.
And most people don't actually write the physical code by hand anymore unless it's a very small change. You steer the AI to implement what you want and it takes care of the actual syntax and 99% of the time it's just as good as if a decently skilled dev did it. You only take over when you really want to have full control of a particular implementation which in many projects is quite rare.

>>43550251
This guy is right. I mostly agree on what he's saying about code. But even just on the fucking Jira time save, an AI using dev will outpace anyone else. I probably would not have quit my previous job if I had GPT 5.6 Luna. She is the only thing that makes Jira tolerable. I will be happy even if all that we get out of the AI boom is a Luna-level intelligent natural language interface to shit APIs like Jira's.

>AI still does
You missed out so much else. AI can unfuck Git, make the PR, add reviewers, update the ticket, MAKE FUCKING SCREENSHOTS OF THE CODE WORKING, and babysit the build through CI. I don't think that I have run git push in the past six months, hobby projects aside.

Stop

>>43550293
I really wish there was a board where they could talk about this kind of thing and not shit up the thread.
OH WAIT
>>>/g/

I prefer this over when people here start discussing their gay fantasies.

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>>43546579
I looked it up and he apparently died in January. Also, dude wasn't even 55, but he looked 70-ish. American food will do that to ya, or what?

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>>43550358
Spending your life arguing with people about horse politics ages you.

>>43550280
That's true. I mostly run git myself because we sign our commits at work.
Also it sucks at "making the PR" because, for some reason, AI-written docs or summaries are still extreme slop, even if you're using opus 5.5 or astra or fable or whatever at max tier. I let AI write most of my code but I have never seen a good commit message or PR description from AI. (Which is why I'm also not too worried for the writers.)

>>43550397
There's an Unslop skill that actually works.