Prog? More like POGR editionWhat is Progressive Rock?>https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/Good albums to start with?>https://www.musicgenretree.org/essential_prog.pngObscure prog gems>https://rateyourmusic.com/list/antonbildern/a-secret-society-obscure-progressive-rock-albums/Previous: >>121352102
first for brondesbury tapes 1968
Favorite current century loco dude performance?
>>121442291Studio, but Marquee and Earthbound are both close. They take the intensity up to 11
oh yeah we hit the bump limit woo yeah mm mmm WOOO
>>121442291King Crimson live at central park july 1st 1974they really make it roar there
Acknowledge me.
NO JOHN NO
For me, it's Frog Rock.
>>121442387Underrated by people who don’t know it but often overrated by people who do know it.
>>121442387>Some members of the band, in retrospect, expressed distaste for the album, including Anderson, saying that "I've always thought that A Passion Play suffered more than any other album I've ever made from being over-arranged and over-produced and over-cooked" and that Jethro Tull fans who call the album their favourite album of all time "should of course remain in the establishment for the criminally insane in which they probably already reside"
Farts (That Which Passes, Passes Like Clouds)
>>121442620Call me insane, because I think it's the second best album they made, after Heavy Horses
>it's a bad album because uhhhh >it's TOO well produced
>>121442914Two of my faves (with Stormwatch) as well but I still thought the quote was funny.
>>121442705Petrodragon was good but something about this band irks meYou just fucking know they're the favourite band of hipster poor affecting but actually rich Melbourne douchebags that use the phrase "spaces" and call it Meanjin and Naarm
pubular bells lolhaha I'm only kidding. Just horseplay. I like Oldfield. Hope you guys are swell. :)
I'M WHEELS
>tfw made like 5 new friends at the Steve Hackett show last week
Cloudless everydayYou fall upon my waking eyesInviting and inciting me to riseAnd through the window in the wallCome streaming in on sunlight wingsA million bright ambassadors of morning
>>121444188>never change guilt>you can change what happens>never change anxiety>you can change the future (yami no mukou you can change your destiny toki no mukou we can share the happiness)Am I right bros?
>>121444222Had a hunch it's a Gundam stuff, it is.
>>121444115absent lovers (absent lovers.....)
>>121444329I added the line from Beyond the Time because you can change the future is the same line, I was wondering if my spanish translation was correct
>>121444222It's more like "No amount of guilt can change the past, no amount of anxiety can change the future", but you got it close enough :)
>KC line-up with the least interesting studio compositions but had the best live improvs>Mario & Luigi on the front cover
>>121444601>the least interesting studio compositions>when shitters like Islands, Lizard and Poseidon existBro what
>aqualung is an 8 minute song>there's only about a minute and a half i actually like
>>121444601I, I WILL BE KING...CRIMSON
>>121445304What the !!!!
>>121444629>Islands, Lizard and Poseidon>shittersEither this is bait or I've never seen someone get filtered this hard on /prog/
>>121443268do these hipster folks also discuss things that 'just irk them'?use your words
Three of a Perfect Pair is better than Discipline, Red, and Starless and Bible Black (and Beat, but that goes without saying.) 100% of King Crimson's Discography is in the top quarter of any discussion of their contemporaries for any given period.
Watch out where the huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow!Watch out where the huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow!Watch out where the huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow!Watch out where the huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow!
Are you going?
>>121442705For me it's MOTU
STAND BACK
>>121442387>So what's the problem with A Passion Play? Well, for starters, it lacks melodies - a thing mostly unheard of Jethro Tull before but which would, sadly enough, become a standard for later releases. Not entirely, of course; repeated listenings bring out certain parts that are intelligently written and well-performed. But much too often, the band just stands on the spot and doesn't seem to go anywhere - bland acoustic strummings following highly disorganized chord sequences, pedestrian jamming, uninspired noise... all of these things crop up way, way too often. And to top it all, there ain't a single outstanding guitar solo on the album - where the hell is Martin? Come to think of it, there ain't a single guitar solo on the album at all.>Next point. I have to deal with the album's concept. It is, roughly speaking, a little nutty. Yes, it does represent a young man who's died and gone to hell, and it supposedly deals with problems of life, death, regeneration, life in the other world, etc., etc. But in ninety percent of the cases, the lyrics are completely meaningless - when Ian takes up the usual cliches like 'icy Lucifer', he hasn't got the least idea of what to do with them. The general message is non-existent, and the poetic imagery gets lost and bogged down with its own pretentions. Yes, Ian is a well-read guy, and in parts, A Passion Play had definitely been inspired by Dante's 'Inferno'; but so what? Anybody with at least a little bit of intelligence can string up words in a better way. I'll just leave it with this: while I've indeed witnessed many hardcore Tull fans praising the album for "seriousness" and "deepness", never have I been able to meet somebody who could actually point out what the hell Ian was actually trying to say here. It all comes down to the old self-deception - 'this album is great oh so great, I don't know why it's great but it's just so great that its greatness is unexplainable'.
>>121448478>Worse, there is not a single bit of humour or lightweightness - everything's deadly serious to the extreme, not giving you a moment of relaxation. Except at the beginning of the second side, of course, where the steady flow of the suite is suddenly interrupted by a weird 'neo-humourist' story of 'The Hare Who Lost His Spectacles', narrated in a traditional British theatrical type of pronunciation by Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond. The story is good clean fun and makes me laugh every time I hear it, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the album. It was apparently thrown in for good measure, just to provide a bit of relief for the listener (thank you so much Mr Anderson, for taking pity on the poor audience), but where the light funny bits on Thick As A Brick were cleverly and subtly interpolated in between the more serious parts, here it's not just the seams that are visible - the entire patch is sewn very badly.>And, of course, the monotonousness of the record kills me, simply annihilates me. Thick As A Brick had everything, from war marches to ballads to rockers; here, it's just the same acoustic noodling/sax+guitar jamming going on and on and on, always at the same tempo, more or less in the same key, never speeding up, never slowing down; this album could definitely never have worked on a short-song level.
>>121448478That guy is a moron. Don't even get me started on his shitty Caravan opinions
I'm about to dive into U.K. wish me luck
>>121446600checked.. and I might have to agree with you about Perfect Pair at least being the best of the 80s stuff. The first four tracks are awesome>>121447261yes, can't wait
>>121447261The ticket prices for the Vegas show are insane. I used to be kind of contrarian about ticket industry reform just because swifties are annoying, but yeah fuck paying $300 to see a show at an off-strip casino.
>>121449127I think that's down to it being Vegas more than it is the tour having expensive tickets in general. I looked up the prices for the show nearest to me, and 300 is as high as they get.
>>121447261Yes. Got 5th row seats and a meet & greet.
>>121448842That's all you need to listen to from them. The other 2 albums are dreck.
>>121449154When you do the pictures make Belew hold a timestamp shouting out /prog/
1973: Dancing With the Moonlit Knight1976: Dance on a Volcano1991: I Can't Dance
>>121442460That was the censored cover
>>121449479I met Tony once briefly before. This time I'm going to ask him if he remembers doing an encore in Chicago in his boxer shorts (Peter Gabriel show, Uptown Theater, 1980).
>>121450082How tall is he
>>121449883I Can't Dance was my first introduction to Genesis as a kid and I wrote them off as a shitty pop band for years because that was the only thing I had heard of them, sad
>>121448561I thought he liked Caravan? If I recall he actually liked their later albums more than most do.
>>121450325I discovered Genesis through the greatest hits album and had the opposite effect. Coming to the band through a retrospective of their whole career (even if it's just the hits) made me appreciate them in totality instead of being partial to one era or another depending on which one came first for me.
>He doesn't own a Magma shirtWhat's your excuse?
>>121450777they don't make 'em my size
>>121450770In any other general this would be an obvious shitpost but in /prog/ I actually don't doubt this being a 100% factual account
>zappa belches softly into the mic
>>121450777>tfw no early 70s Magma gf
>>121450182Not sure. He was standing on a riser when I met him, so it was hard to tell. He is a tall guy, though.I once met Steve Hackett. He is quite short, maybe about 5' 5".
Fellas?
>>121448478>every time fripp would leave he said he would "stretch his legs">i started to count how many times this phrase was used on a piece of paper
>>121451609kek
>>121443268King Gizzard is basically a garage band trying to sell itself as something other than what they are. It's the "listens to Hawkwind once" type of feel.>>121443565Amarok was the first Oldfield album made to be released on CD and therefore it's 60 minutes long. Richard Branson had asked him to make something catchy for the occasion, since he had been pretty much a hitmaker in the 80s, but that would mean he'd have to make "normal" songs for the record. In some part of the titular song, Olfield plays "FUCKYOURB" in Morse code.>>121450406Genesis never truly changed as people like to believe since even in their poppiest stuff they had complex arrangements and instrumentalization. The lyrics were often questionable but they were trying a lot of stuff. Plus Banks and Rutherford were the guys constantly writing stuff for the band throughout the entirety of their run so I'd say they managed to keep an identity even when they went pop.
>>121450386He had some not very nice things to say about their second album, which is a personal favorite of mine.
>>121443268>use the phrase "spaces" and call it Meanjin and NaarmI have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about and maybe it should stay that way.
>>121452002My issue with King Gizz is that they bite off more than they can chew genre. Whenever they try to incorporate vast influences or switch styles for a new record, it often comes off superficial and "been there, done that". Their jazz fusion songs sound like elevator music. Their synthpop stuff is dollar store bin Bjork. Petrodragon was sold to me as some prog-thrash metal thing but it didn't feel that proggy or that thrashy compared to Voivod for example. I imagine a lot of the people who praise this band only listed to a couple of rock subgenres, mainly psych and prog, because I don't know how else you could find this stuff all that interesting or groundbreaking.
>>121452215You have not seen the depths of Australian twitter autismPeople here latch onto issues from real countries and bring their bullshit and ruin everythingThere was even pro-Palestine protests, you know, in fucking Australia
>>121450406>I discovered Genesis through the greatest hits albumIs it the 1999's Turn it On Again? Think that was also the 1st Genesis album I got (either that or a 1983 self-titled in cassette form). That compilation really almost gave no shit about Peter Gabriel's Genesis (18 tracks with only 2 of them from that era, with 1 is a re-recording). Setting aside that, that compilation was prolly the first reason why I always prefer Collins' over Gabriel's.
>>121452317>There was even pro-Palestine protests, you know, in fucking AustraliaBased.
>>121452259I tried listening to their album that only has 2 tracks but last 15 minutes each. 5 minutes in and I just stopped, I just kinda have a feeling this lot made longer songs for the sake of just making it long without making it interesting at all.
Been listening to Amon Duul II and their offshoots again. Yeti is still one of the greatest rock albums (double albums if you want to be pedantic) ever. Phallus Dei the track is 10/10, the album itself is good but I daresay only the eight minute track is great. Tanz Der Lemminge as a body is good, but it's let down by the Race From Here To Your Ears suite which is kind of middling and uninteresting. The first and last fourths of the album are fantastic.A LOT of people like Wolf City, but I think Carnival In Babylon with the bonus tracks Skylight + Tatzelwurmlock is the better album by a large margin. Even Vive La Trance is better than Wolf City because it lacks anything as horrible as Deutsch Nepal. Thanks for reading my blog, if you listen to anything by the Amon Duul collective, listen to Yeti, Phallus Dei, Disaster, Towards Paradise, and Carnival In Babylon + the two aforementioned bonus tracks.
>>121452562Yeah they have that issue too. It's never a good sign when the most progressive thing about a song is the length.
>prog band releases a single>the original song is too short and has to be extendedhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=ZTdOMV-yTRg
>>121442705This was an amazing album but I haven't heard anything from them that actually came close to it. They shit out so much music I must be missing out on something, any recommendations?
>>121452514the arabs and the jews boy, too much for me
>>121452259None ofthe albums they've made feel truly authentic because of the element you mention. They are actually trying to force themselves into the niche of the "cult band" thing which is why I mentioned Hawkwind, a similarly garagey, long lived and cult band that has gone through many iterations and identities. They try way too fucking hard.
>>121452683This was where they got the idea for those Bud Light commercials everyone obsessed over for a few years, wasn't it? That's not a connection I would have expected to make in a thread like this/
>>121453078It's older than thathttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender%27s_Blue
>>121453149I know, the point I was trying to suggest is that some boomer in marketing at AB InBev had this version in mind, understanding it to be the point of commonality for the target audience of white Gen X men who probably watched a lot of MTV.
>>121452317Australia is just like America in so many ways yet they keep denying it
>>121453301 Not just denying it, they've been implementing European style policy against the wishes of a lot of the people for a long time and doing everything in their power to be as closely associated with Europe as they possibly can despite being as far away as you can possibly get.
>>121453444It's weird that the album cover for Mirage uses the exact same picture of a camel and almost the same typeface as the cigarette brand. I can only assume that's what made the difference in sales between the UK and US. Teenagers bought it because it was obvious edgy merchandise they could convince their parents was a complete coincidence.
>>121453609They actually had a deal with the cigarette company. Here's from Andy Ward's interview:>The cover became a problem, the designers Modular, came up with a cut glass version of the Camel cigarette box, an every day object, maybe not in this country so much, but definately in the States, you saw it all the time, but with a twist towards the album title Mirage, with the sliced up effect, simple but effective.>Someone in management came up with the idea of getting Camel Cigarettes in on it as a tour sponsor, and sure enough they coughed a couple of grand. They issued the band with loads of promotional packs of three, that had the album cover on one side, and the proper cigarette design on the other, and for about 2 years after we were still smoking these damn ciggies. It really back-fired on us, they'd show up at gigs with loads of girls with trays of cigarettes all over them. I remember this Camel company spokesman coming over from Switzerland, and he was even suggesting song titles to us like, "A smooth packet of twenty", or "Filter Tipped Fantasy", I remember Peter, to freak him out, saying we could do a track called "Twenty Sticks of Cancer", how about that? It was very bad, we were no longer associated with the animal but with the cigarette. We knocked it on the head and made them use a different cover for the american release.The story is told with more detail in the Camel documentary (around 12:35 mark) https://youtube.com/watch?v=rpO3e7NBEGU
>Hello son, I hope you're having fun?>You've got it wrong, sir, I'm only the cleaner>With that he fired, the other saying as he died>"You've done me wrong, it's the same old song forever and ever"Everything Phillip touches is gold
>>121448842don't listen to the other anon danger money is kino and carrying no cross is one of great prog tracks
>>121442241Why is In Absentia in this collage? That album is fucking boring and awful.
>>121445705I always shit on 70s King Crimson not named Red. thank God for Belew.
>>121454761They tried to reach you for comment but couldn't
>>121452635Based and startlingly accurate post. I like Tanz a smidgen more tho.These are worth listening to too:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx2aFxUgAZohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MLo-REz9QQ
>>121453752If you think that's fucked up, wait until you see the logo they had while touring alongside Dutch band Kayak.
>>121454888Based Tony poster
>>121454888holy digits PETAH!!!
FATHER OF THREE IT'S DISGUSTINGSUCH A HORRIBLE THING TO DO
>>121454888>tfw steve is barely audible
>>121455381>tfw peter starts singing over your beautiful solo
>>121444150How many of them were under 70
>>121442387best album in all of prog music, only rivaled by TAABJethro Tull's masterpiece>>121448492>>121448478>>121442620fucking retarded opinions
>>121454947I reread my post and I realized I didn't recommend Tanz, I DO, and I like it lots.>Muller's Frau JamWhat the fuck never heard of this. Apparently it's on a Wolf City reissue I never listened to. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Very bitching, hell yeah.>RattlesnakeplumcakeFucking groovy. Carnival In Babylon/Vive La Trance/Wolf City era jam. Love this.
Just listened to The Lamb again brehs
>>121455790I listen to it at least 2-3 times a week. I've been working on a thematic analysis on it's occult/religious themes and decoding Peter's lyrics. Even for 70s prog, I don't know of a concept album with more depth
>>121455950you'd think someone would already have them decoded 50 years after it came out
>>121456169lots of penis referenceslike LOTS of penis references
>>121456169there are a few, I remember someone a few threads back shared a tumbler blog that dedicated to analyzing the lamb
Get backSlap backBacktalkHalf-backBacktrackTalk backBack to backI'll be back to get you backThe world's my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museumGet bumpedGet pumpedGet dumpedGet the funkGet sickGet fixedGet jiggy with itThe world's my oyster souffle mignonGet along little doggieGet a haircut
>>121456169There are multiple interpretations but this is the most objective one based on band interviews, biographies, concert programs, etc & from what I can tell in my own research, the most accuratehttps://www.bloovis.com/pages/lamb/
>>121452635>>121454947Chris Karrer, one of the founding members of Amon Duul II, died in January of this year. Needs a sticky desperately.
>>121455780>Fucking groovy. Carnival In Babylon/Vive La Trance/Wolf City era jam. Love this.Yes exactly, it would be a perfect fit for Carnival, and it was probably the first hint of them going in that direction.>>121457664RIPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uLGtYhDZE8
>>12145706090s crimson niggas will defend this...
>>121447715>peter has ai videos nowsad
>>121452635I much prefer Wolf City to Carnival in Babylon myself.Here's another from that era under Utopia https://youtu.be/UDyxJIEYz2E
>>121457060I like the song where they sang about making a song
>>121458354I like the song about the delusional asshole with a schizo girlfriend who's only bad for him, but he's convinced that he's such a good person for tolerating it that everything will suddenly start going his way.
>>121457664Awwwwwwwwwwww FUCK nooooo. I was hoping to catch him live someday. Goddammit. Sticky indeed. I wonder if Renate wrote anything on Facebook about it, she used to be active like 9 years ago. I even messaged her once to tell her she was awesome and she thanked me. >>121458257Ah Utopia, I'll listen to it tomorrow at work for sure. >I much prefer Wolf City to Carnival in Babylon myself.Man I don't really know how. I don't begrudge you or anything, but I've been relistening to it with What You Gonna Do, Las Vegas, and Mueller's Frau and it's just too damn inconsistent. It's just cementing Carnival is among my favorite Duul work for me.
>out of the blue is considered "progressive pop" according to wikipediaWhat the fuck does that mean
>absent lovers (absent lovers...)
>>121442241op is a massive faggot, put progarchives in the bread
Was chilling outside the venue during intermission the other night and noticed Steve Hackett's tour bus wifi is labeled The LAN Lies Down on BroadbandJust thought that was funny
>>121458757heckin epic
3 minutes of christian vander passing a kidney stonehttps://youtu.be/kWH0pjRrDWY?t=229
>>121458626What does Progressive really mean in general? They've been playing it for 60 years at this point. What does it progress towards? Using Mellotrons and Hammond Organs? Mainstream Rock adopted those too. Weird time signatures and or expressions of high technical skill? Is the idea that it's music written to be recorded in a studio rather than played live? There are half as many King Crimson studio albums as there are albums of live shows which almost all heavily feature improvised tracks. There are original non-improvised tracks which were never recorded in a studio but are part of those live albums. It doesn't mean anything but 'the works of musicians within fewer than six degrees of separation from of Robert Fripp, Keith Emerson, Greg Lake and Carl Palmer and occasionally those inspired directly by the works of those people."
>>121459723I have no fucking clue what Progressive Rock even means anymore outside of the late 60s and 1970s context because there's so much things labelled progressive rock from the 80s onwards that sounds absolutely nothing like these 70s bandsLooking at Ruins especially>paraded as one of the most influential things to come out of late 80s/early 90s prog>it just sounds like technical noise rock
Where do I go after Aqualung?
>>121460557if you want proggier, Thick as a Brick, then A Passion Playif you want rockier, War Child and Minstrel in the Galleryif you want folkier, Too Old to Rock n Roll, Songs from the Wood, Heavy Horses and Stormwatchif you want bluesier, Stand Up and Benefit
>>121459723>>121459800Prog captures a mindset in the music playing and listening population that existed pretty much in the '65 to '75 decade where a huge portion of the audience would begin demanding more from music in general. From Revolver to The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, there was this sense that musicians had to try harder and do more outlandish things to "prove" themselves to be better than the flaccid landscape of mainstream pop. One thing where this was seen was in the musicianship but also in the album culture that led to songs that were longer than 3 minutes and actively avoiding releasing singles. Pink Floyd didn't release singles for a decade, from the Syd Barret days to Another Brick in the Wall. Most things "progressive" just refer to this time frame. My dad lived the golden days of prog rock and he'd use the word "symphonic rock" to describe most of them, but that's mostly referring to bands like Yes and ELP who'd actually try to aspire to be that sort of band. He liked Jethro Tull as well but he just called them "flute rock". Funnily enough he didn't liked Pink Floyd at all outside Dark Side of the Moon (and pretty much Dark Side of the Moon) and Genesis was "Phil Collins' band". "Prog", much like "metal", seems to be something people used in retrospective to describe this music. Ruins is a zeuhl band in the style of magma. Japanese do love their spastic heavy jazz.
>>121460893> in the style of magmaThey really aren't. Ruins is only considered zeuhl because Yoshida cites Magma as his biggest influence and he sings in a constructed language, but Ruins and Magma sound light years apart, hell Ruins sounds completely different from any other zeuhl group French, Japanese or otherwise.
>>121453301I just watched an episode of 30 Rock last night that said "Florida is the Australia of America"
>>121460975I agree, and I've mentioned this in previous threads. Pretty much all zeuhl bands inspired by Magma only focus on a small fraction of what made Magma tick. They tend to focus on the more technical or weird aspects but disregard that special otherworldly vibe. Vander's a massive Coltrane nut, and you can hear that throughout all of Magma, but that vibe seems to be gone in other zeuhl prohjects.>>121460893>Ruins is a zeuhl band in the style of magma. Japanese do love their spastic heavy jazz.This is true but Ruins doesn't really incorporate any jazz. Yoshida said in an interview once that he doesn't really listen to the stuff. I wanna say Sax Ruins will at times sound like it has the vocabulary of Ornette Coleman but even then it's rare.
Killer album
>>121460975>>121461357My best bet is that Magma was their gateway into the RIO movement which might be closer to what they do.
BU2B is a better version of Freewill
>>121461613Yeah sounds about right
>>121442241>>121444601>>121445304>>121445472>>121445705>>121446600>>121447261>>121448974>Discipline>Red = Larks>Islands = ITCOTCK = Wake>ToAPP = SABB>Thrak> Beat>Power>Lizard>>ConstrukctionNone of them would be under a B tier when compared to contemporaries with a majority in S and A.Don't bother refuting, my list is objectively right.>Wake is just rehashed ITCOTCKNo it's not>Beat is trashNo it's not>ITCOTCK is good but not in the top tier of KC albumsYes it is>Islands is awfulNo it's not, islands join hands neathe heaven's sea, dipshit>Power to Believe is worse than ConstruKCtionYou're braindead>SABB is boring and uninspiredHealth food >Discipline is overratedIt's a masterpiece, your opinion is objectively wrong>ReD iS ThEiR oPuSyou probably skip Providence >Three of a Perfect pair is carried by title trackTell me you have advanced brainrot without telling me
>>12145032580s Pop Rock Genesis and 70s Prog Genesis are both overrated imo. One of the most overrated classic Rock bands I would say.
>>121462347>Lizard that lowIt 100% deserves to be in 4th place of your list (with ToAPP = SABB being 5th).
>>121462468Problem is>Lizard > Power? maaaaaayybe?>Lizard > Beat?no>Lizard > Thrak?no>Lizard > ToAPP/SABB? noIt's still a great album - I suppose this is a more acceptable opinion than people that think Islands is a bad album
>>121462347>that spacingNot reading!
>>121462583Uh oh did my objectively correct opinion go against your undeveloped and objectively incorrect opinion?
>>121462600>t.22 year old discovers polysyllables
>>121462621Ay yo which deez words is too hard fo you cuh
>>121462347stay filtered bitch
>>121462347Based and 100% accurate
>>121461357Because Magma is mostly written by a guy who's more into jazz while nearly every other zeuhl band are composed by people more into progressive rock.It's even clearer when you listen to Kobaia, Udu Wudu or Kartehl (the only Magma albums which aren't entirely written by Vander), or looking at the other projects of different Magma members. Besides Vander they're almost all prog fans.
islands is the best kc album thoughever
Enjoying The Electric Light Orchestra today
Enjoying The Electric Light Porchestra today
BIG MAN, PIG MAAAAANHAHAAAAAAA CHARADE YOU ARE
>tfw born too late to witness the genesis reunion showhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3e3w48rZrw
who is the best peter in prog
hell be fine
>>121465742he looks like if ET cross bred with a human
>>121465786IT'S NOT FUN BEING AN ILLEGAL ALIEN
>>121457264fucking bloovis dot com. I remember reading it a decade ago when I was in high school. Very nostalgic, I almost forgot about it
>>121458104For a guy who gives a shit about trying out different forms of art even if they look a little weird, it's sad that he confused ai for that kinda thing. Pink Floyd has an ai video too but that seems less understandable. Genius musicians are becoming out of touch old men. Christ, kill me now.
>>121464924Do you think Hammill and Gabriel ever made out?
>>121465945Yeah that's how Fish was brought into this world
Sad news: Steve Hackett has been diagnosed with ligma.
>>121466110Who's Steve Hackett?
>>121464924Hammill > Gabriel > Sinfeld > Gee > Bardens
>>121454888>>121455381>>121455481he's so pretty....
>>121465742me listening to Ripples on repeat
>>121466129steve hackett ma balls
how I be lookin at the skinwalker pretending to be my mom when they tell i have schizophrenia
>>121466510https://youtube.com/watch?v=rlATvizWvhA
>>121467926>HAVE YOU DREAMED THIS MAN?
>>121467926he looks like he's living in my walls
>>121467926>Its getting cold isn’t it?
>>121467926At any age, he's just a silly guy
>>121467936Yeah I’m thinking he’s cute
duke is the best genesis albumdrama is the best yes albumdiscipline era is the best king crimson era
>>121470212two weeks in spain is the best gentle giant song
>>121470212dust and dreams is the best camel albumdanger money is the best uk albumdivision bell is the best pink floyd albumdefector is the best steve hackett album
sounds like my superior opinions have worked someone into a form of discomforta curious feeling is the best solo album to come out of genesis btw
>>121470379>a curious feeling is the best solo album to come out of genesis btwno it's dance into the light
I hate metal but I love heavy rock
>>121470620I'm more into wood myself
>>121472589bilford
>>121452635I like Deutsch Nepal though
>>121472719Why?>COUGH COUGH GENERAL>AHEM AHEMIt's so bad. I think John Weinz does the vocals for it but I hope not.
>>121472589imagine the drumming he could do with 3 hands...
>>121467926>>121467943>>121468069kek
>>121472806It's got a good riff and the voice is funny to me
>>121474243Fair enough. I think it brings down the album but to each their own.
>>121472938imagine how many $5 handjobs he could give out with 3 hands...
>>121476349Three HandsThree HandsThree Haaaaaannnds
For me it's Working All Day
>"theusz hamtaahk" trilogy>mekanik destruktiw kommandoh is the last part of the trilogy but it's the first one to be recorded>theusz hamtaahk is the chronological first but hasn't appeared on any official release until 1981>wurdah itah is the second part of the trilogy but it's also a movie soundtrack that was recontextualized as a part of the magma canon almost 20 years after it initially released???
>>121476425kek
>>121442241>>121465945>>121466411Van der Graaf Generator is a trust fund band.
Eleventh Earl of Mar is an decent Genesis song until it suddenly becomes god tier>Time to go to bed now, never seems to keen>To be a guest now in a house of dreeaaaaaaams
>>121476441WORKING ALL DAYI’M DIGGING UP THE ROADSJUST WORKING ALL DAYAAAAAAAY
>>121478046Genesis always had god tier opening tracks>Musical Box>Watcher of the Skies>Dancing with the Moonlit Knight>The Lamb Lies Down>Dance on a Volcano>Eleventh Earl of Mar>Down and Out>Behind the Lines>Mama>No Son of Mine
proggybumps
>>121478831>skipping Abacab
>>121480104Abacab is a mainstream pop-rock song of the time. It doesn't count. The only things that are prog about are the synths and organ
>>121480160And No Son of Mine isn’t?
>>121480224That's at least too long for regular radio play. Abacab doesn't even have that going for it. It's not even a judgement on quality to exclude it, it's great, but it doesn't meet the criteria that I personally think are necessary to call a song prog.
>>121480281That’s understandable, though keep in mind Mama and No Son of Mine both got radio edits that made them more digestible
Is neo-prog the nu-metal of prog? (i.e. total shit)
>>121480440Why is /mu/ so retarded for doing comparisons? Not even food analogies are this stupid.
>>121480440Yes. Don't listen to it. In fact, you only need to listen to three bands in your life
>>121480631>new generation of artists within a given genre subvert established traditions to the point where it is categorized as a new subgenre and is widely mockedit's absolutely comparable except neo-prog wasn't commercially successful
>>121480440nahprog metal is the nu metal of prog. Neo prog was still tasteful even if a bit poppy at times. But it's much more enjoyable than any prog metal band, save for very specific exceptions like Fates Warning.
>>121480846prog metal is great you homo
>>121480846>prog metal is the nu metal of progah yes, Fates Warning and Dream Theater are the Korn and Deftones of progbrilliant
>>121480440Djent is the nu metal of prog
>>121480631See>>121480716
SOOOOOOOGIVING ALL THE LOVE YOU HAVE
>>121480281abacab is 7 minutes while no son of mine is 6 and way closer structurally to mainstream pop rock of the time than abacab was to pop rock of its eranot shitting on no son of mine though, i'm a we can't dance enjoyer
>We're ashamed to be musicians in a world where musicians are acrobats and clowns. If you like Magma, you can't like rock.
>>121483117>If you like Magma, you can't like rock. Magma is zeuhl, zeuhl is war, war for life, not for survival.
>>121480104It's a good song but it doesn't really have the epic power of those other songs
>>121480938this
>>121458626>out of the blue is considered "progressive pop" according to wikipediabut is it any good
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>>121483801Yeah it’s fucking excellent
>>121483117reading that shows that my french has really become rusty
Holy shit Attahk grooves so hard. The bass playing on this one makes my thingy feel funny
>>121485834>when you put all your points into the rhythm section
>>121485834Yeah, this album is pretty good. Was pleasantly surprised by it.Merci, on the other hand, is fucking awful.
oh yeah Level Five
>>121477787Don't dodge the question. Do you ever think trust fund musicians ever made out?
>The acoustic-to-electric transition in TrainsCan it be beaten, /prog/?
>>121486005>Merci, on the other hand, is fucking awful.Not really.
>>121452562Hypertension is actually one of their better songs since like 2017. I'd honestly give it another listen, although maybe I've just grown too fond of it.
>>121486361Maybe Hugh Jackson. Not Hammill or the others...
Pic related clicked. What is the consensus on Can/Krautrock? I think it's "progressive" but not "prog."
>>121486005i understand why magma purists hate it, but merci is good actually
>>121488953Pic related is my favourite krautrock album. Can are definitely great at least until Soon Over Babaluma. Some of Holger Czukay's other work like Canaxis and On the Way to the Peak of Normal are also worth checking out.
>>121488953krautrock is entirely separate from prog. They are both entirely different distinct genres. Both still good, of course, but I am sick of people lumping them in the same category
>>121488953Krautrock is not progressive rock.There are krautrock bands that are progressive rock, but krautrock generally developed out of avant-garde circles separate from prog rock influence.>CanTheir only prog album is Future Days
Ugh, yow!
>>121494754Is he the ultimate contrarian? Or just a pseud?
>>121494771Nah not a contrarian, probably a pseud.Interviews make it seem that rather than disliking prog rock he just doesn't even listen to itThere's an 80s interview where someone asks him about prog and he answers that he never even heard the term before and there's a more recent interview where he said he never listened to prog rock until recently until someone showed him a few bands (he doesn't say the name of the band) and he just wasn't impressed. For all we know somebody showed him shit like Meshuggah or Dream Theater or something.
>>121494798Reminds me of Arjen Lucassen asking Gilmour about prog>When I met him I told him: "Hi, I'm a fellow musician, I'm nervous like hell and this will be a disaster". But he was very nice, quite positive, but there was a bad aftertaste: he does not seem to be interested in music at all. He doesn't like prog at all, made a face when I talked of Genesis. I listed ten bands that were influenced by Floyd and he didn't know a single one of them. Not even Camel. He said that literally: "Don't know Camel". I could not understand that.
>>121494849As far as I know Vander doesn't listen to rock in general outside of jazz fusion, and the only times I really see him talking about rock music positively are projects from other Magma members that are more in the prog rock sphere, or bands that Magma's played with.Other Magma members go deeper and say that he only ever fucking listens to John Coltrane in his spare time and his knowledge of even jazz is pretty entry-level since he keeps on comparing everything he listens to to John Coltrane to the point that he can't enjoy most other jazz.
>>121494881>Other Magma members go deeper and say that he only ever fucking listens to John Coltrane in his spare time and his knowledge of even jazz is pretty entry-level since he keeps on comparing everything he listens to to John Coltrane to the point that he can't enjoy most other jazz.I want it to be true because it's so fucking funny
>>121494897It probably isThe way it's worded is that it sounds like he does listen to a wide array of jazz but he's overcritical of most of the jazz he listens to and keeps on comparing it to John Coltrane
>>121494675>create a guitar school/cult>the only notable alumnus is trey gunn who is best known for... being in king crimson
>>121494849>Q: Who did you hate most out of Genesis, E.L.P., Yes or King Crimson?>Gilmour: Probably Yes, E.L.P., Genesis and King Crimson in that order...Oh God what am I saying? Funnily enough, I don't really like pop groups very much.
KING CRIMSON ANLOGUE HORROR??11!!!1??!////!!?/1//!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gD-K-jp2_Q
>>121494754Magma sounds nothing like KC. Is this supposed to be controversial? I've read interviews with jazz musicians who get compared to KC too and they say they've never listened to them.
>>121442241Is stranglehold prog rock?https://youtube.com/watch?v=HXzVzxdwYxoYes, its by ted nugent, but non prog bands can make prog songs too.
>>121494897It's believable. The non-Trane jazz musicians he praises the most are Rashied Ali and McCoy Tyner, both of whom are famous for playing with Coltrane.
>>121442241Here's a strange question, for you anons.Is stranglehold prog rock?https://youtube.com/watch?v=HXzVzxdwYxo Yes, its by Ted Nugent, but non prog bands can make prog songs too.
>>121496809science has gone too far
>>121496940>get compared and lumped with a British genre for 50 years>50 years pass>"hey did you ever listen to these guys people lumped you with for 50 years">"no"It's not controversial but I just think it's really funny but then again I've heard that a lot of dedicated musicians stop listening to a wide variety of music as they focus more on making music themselves.
>>121496940>>121497179Especially since a lot of Magma's other members openly like British prog and King Crimson
