This has to be without a doubt the single worst year for recorded music in history
>>121523881it's not 1977 bro
>>121523881>all white >all indie nature is healing
>>121523881Why, because the most popular albums of this year are ones you dislike?
>>121523881>RYM
>>121523881Last year was unironically worse. The last 15 years have been fucking garbage throughout though, but even I'm floored at how especially bad the last 5 years in particular have been. Holy fuck in the 00s and most of the 10s you could at least rely on indie music to be somewhat engaging and now even that's all fucking dogshit. What the fuck is happening with music right now? Why is it so FUCKING boring?
I like all 3 of those. I think the problem is you.
RYMjobs are fucking hypocrites man lmfao they'd never admit to upvoting the new vampire weekend 6000 times but there it is. nothing ever changes. turn your penis rightside out and get a haircut you're done
>>121523881I maintain 2016-19 was the absolute nadir and I stick by that.
>>121523881music's dead, AI is already capable of creating something close. in a year or two it will be impossible to tell the difference
>>121523881>LGBT tagyup its shit
>>1215245932012-2015 was much worse
>>1215248822015 had to be significant for the first year when SJW cancer became apparent with the Meghan Trainor/Elle King attempt at normalizing landwhales.
>>121524593the only thing then was face tattoo rappers and that was just a ruse for fent and sex traffickers to advertise themselves
>>121523994This. Also is Grounder smoking a spliff or just a regular cigarette?
>>121525234Regular cigarette, it was a PSA against smoking.
>>121523881>adriane lenkerdamn that an ugly bitch
>>121523881who the fuck are any of those people>>121524821gay people make the best musicians akshually
>>121523897b8
Stop paying attention to RYM bullshit. There have been some good albums so far, but nothing compared to last year which was filled with great releases.
>>121523881COVID killed the music industry. It's going to be a while before it bounces back.
>>121525712naw it was the 2008 recession. stuff never quite recovered from that. but you know it took almost a quarter century for the US economy to fully climb back from 1929.
>>121525392>gay people make the best musicians akshuallyuntrue
Kids don't really study music in the numbers they used to, it's quite simple.
>>121523881Who the fuck judges music from the regular RYM chart instead of making a custom chart with the genres you actually like?
>>121525742yeah there was this little thing called world war 2 that got in the way
>>121523994>another millenial rant about how music started sucking once their hairline started receding
what I mean is 2008 gutted a lot of stuff especially music aimed at suburban or working class audiences so the only audience which got targeted was rich yuppie Millenial hipsters and they only listen to buttindie and incredibly lame corporate rap like Drake and J. Cole. the parallel with the Depression era is that that also caused the recorded music biz to contract a lot so there wasn't much for years except Tin Pan Alley crooners because only NYC could afford a music biz. when prosperity came back in the 50s the industry diversified, new labels formed, and people began listening to other stuff.
>>121525852I'm 34 and music has been pretty bad for as long as I was old enough to be aware of it.
>>121525742You say this in every thread
>>121525904This too
>>121523881The new Vampire Weekend isnt even bad wdym
>>121523881last year was worse but yeah this is the second worst year for music in ages.kinda sad that theres not as much genuinely fresh & exciting stuff being released anymore, and i have a feeling its going to just keep getting worse. and i actually really like that new cindy lee album but its so embarassing when you look at the top rym albums for individual years and compare stuff from 1950-2010 to recent years
>>121523881RYM fell off after they shut up chatboxes
>>121523881It's getting worse and worse, yeah
>>121523881Sorry it's cause I haven't dropped yet
>>121525852>Millennial>Hairline receding 15 years agoThat's some fucked up genetics
>>121523881Last year was worse.Bright Future, Only God Above Us, Loss of Life, and Wall of Eyes are better than any 2023 album
>>121525852Or you know, the Global Financial Crisis happened
>>121525852Music already sucked by the time I was a kid. There was literally no new interesting landmarks and genres made since the late 90s. Piracy and the MSM's greed killed the chance of new innovations with pop music. Simply put, the industry died in 2000 and has been in damage control since. To me this is just what I grew up with. I don't remember a time where this wasn't the case. Spotify is interesting because it's the first time the industry got a tiny win for once.But then it just doubled down and tried to eliminate indie competition and gave artists scraps.So nobody with decent ideas decided to try the industry... until maybe very soon because desperate times means some people might see it as a "last resort".Maybe then the industry will realise how repellent it truly was to new talent. It took an impoverished pool of slaves to the system to finally get new products.
>>121525852Music when to shit around the time the last Millennial was being born to be honest.
>>121530117It's been shit since the 80s, we just never noticed because production got significantly better in the 90s and EDM emerged in a time when copyright was really not enforced. It's been getting shitter and shitter the more corporations, marketing and lawyers get involved.
>>121530061>was like 12 at the timekekI must have been receding real young.
Damn... now that I think about it, even my teens sucked because the world was collapsing. So I guess the GFC did destroy my life at age 12.That was when NGOs and government agencies became pure cancer.>time of Beijing 2008 too... hmmm
>>121530174I'd contend that the first half of the 90s was a Renaissance in terms of music quality largely in direct reaction to the 80s, but that afterwards it never recovered. Since the last Millennials were born somewhere in 1994 - 1996 depending on who you ask, I think that basically means that music never got good again after the last of them were being born. I actually agree that the 80s are musically overrated as fuck though.
>>121530237>Since the last Millennials were born somewhere in 1994 - 1996 depending on who you askIt was 2005 literally pre-2016 but Google memory holes that.It's all social engineered bullshit to drive elections and policy shift in America. Democracy is a lie, the system manipulates pooled demographics into whatever it wants now. The fact you espouse this gen Y meme is proof it's working.It's all garbage. It doesn't exist.
>>121530279>It was 2005You're right that it's all social-engineered garbage but that's just wrong, Millennials were always started in the early 80s and ended in the mid 90s. Articles just kept calling older Gen Z people "Millennials" for nearly a full decade after that moniker didn't work, I'm actually convinced a lot of the animosity you see online towards Millennials from Gen Z comes from them being called that as an insult for so long.But again, it's all socially manufactured bullshit designed to drive sales of American products. Seeing non-Americans use the generational divisions to refer to themselves nowadays is crazy to me.
>>121523881I don’t think sohttps://youtu.be/66ISDVKhdpc
>>121523881>>121523994Literally all trust fund artists
>>121530103>Simply put, the industry died in 2000 and>>121525742>it was the 2008 recession. stuff never quite recovered from thatmake up your mind, idiot
>>121523881why are you using rym?
I think there's so much general malaise and entropy in our current culture what with all the wars and inflation and constant media gaslighting that people look to music for some kind of escape. But besides the same vapid pop on repeat most "conscious" artists are still only writing about themselves, their feelings, drenched in irony, failing to hit any sort of zeitgeist, etc. /mu/ is now recovering from being 'dead' at the cost of the users now realizing modern music is deader than a board who for years had its sole identity as being stuck in purgatory. There's real dramatic irony there.RYM is so busy inventing made-up genres to give the illusion of new happenings in music that they forget all their charts promote is *literal* landfill indie from trust fund kids. Nothing else. Maybe some meme EDM or Top 40 slop, that's it
>>121523881>LGBTRYM ratings are completely irrelevant at this point.
>>121532248there were times of boring pop music like the early 60s although none of that was as solipsistic as Phoebe Bridgers
>>121525904There was still some cool stuff. Off the top of my head; Death Grips who I can't stand but I can respect at least, Sun Kil Moon with Benji, Ariel Pink, Lana Del Rey has been doing a lot of cool stuff. I hate Deafhaven too but they at least did something fresh. You're not wrong, but there's a key difference because now there's literally nothing. NOTHING. Zoomers have the illusion of "new" stuff only because they wait for tiktok to spoonfeed them instead of exploring themselves. For example, Sewerslut who literally just does standard atmospheric drum&bass which has existed for decades. The only remotely interesting/cool/relatable music you'll find today is on some random autist neet's bandcamp. And if you happen to find that you can't share it because everyone will say "shill!" in the same breath as when they complain about industry plants and trust funds.
>>121523897>rumours by fleetwood mac>animals by pf>aja by steely dan>lust for life by iggy popetc
>>121532405>although none of that was as solipsistic as Phoebe Bridgers???
>>121534914Just what I said. Her "music" is just self-indulgent wank about herself and her mall hipster friends; it's not designed for an audience.
>>121523881>#1 is an album that I’ve never even heard of>#2 is some disingenuous snoozefest garbage>#3 is Vampire Weekend’s 4th best album probably
>>121534995It's for people who think she's cool because she has 10M ig followers and want to copy her personality
>>121523994we have Taylor Swift now it's fine
>>121530382>muh lenials>muh gen z>they said muh lenial but its actually gen z>thats what gen z hate muh lenial>gen z muh lenial gen z gen z gen y gen q muh lenial buh benial gen r gen p gen a gen d gen f gen abcdefghjklgbtqiap+ gen lenial muh genial gen gSHUT THE FUCK UP!!!! PLEASE!!!!! ALL OF YOU!!!!! NONE OF THIS SHIT IS EVEN REAL HOW DO U TYPE ENTIRE PARAGRAPHS ABOUT IT!!!!!
>>121523881The album format hasn't even been relavant in like a decade.
>>121535717most based post on 4chan as of rn
>>121535717>HOW DO U>UOpinion discarded, I will now type about Millennials and Gen Z just to piss you off. Yes you, specifically you, not "u" you fucking troglodyte.
>>121535793>specifically you, not "u"This implies u still understood what i meant, therefore there is no actual problem with my spelling
>>121535835Tihs iplmeis u siltl udnreoostd waht i mneat, tfhreeroe terhe is no atcaul pelorbm wtih my sleniplg
>>121535835>Bad spelling doesn't matterAnd just like that you went from based to cringe, sad
>>121535870Yep. Spelling and grammer aint all too much importent, glad we can come to an aggreemant :)
>>121535870What is an iplmeis and a sleniplg
>>121535924They are pokemon
>>121535917On the contrary, he's so based he mogs both generationology trannies and spelling chuds in the same breath. Truly a visionary.
>>121535959"he" is clearly you, and you are not based anymore. Begone.
nah
>>121536091>it's all vaporwave and ambient
These are my recent favorites. How fucked am I?
>>121536439>mostly vaporwave>an artist called friendzone>asking for opinions about your music taste on 4chanYou're chronically online
>>121536469Only one of those is Vaporwave, though. You're not very good at this music thing kek.
>>121536511So then you're such a weeb half the shit you listen to is from japan. That's even worse.
>>121536572None of those albums are from Japan. You're such a clueless idiot.
>>121536406its not. try listening to the albums
>>121536511>>121536615>Chillwave, Hypnagogic Pop secondary, "Vapor" secondary>Cloud Rap, Chillwave secondary>Ambient that isn't from Japan with image of Japanese city as album cover>Hypnagogic Pop secondary>Chillwave, Utopian Virtual, Vaporwave secondary>VaporwaveIt's literally all vaporwave
>>121536718>Chillwave, Hypnagogic Pop secondary, "Vapor" secondary>Cloud Rap, Chillwave secondary>Hypnagogic Pop secondarySo not Vaporwave.>Ambient that isn't from Japan with image of Japanese city as album coverSo not from Japan.>Chillwave, Utopian Virtual, Vaporwave secondaryFM Skyline is Vaporwave yes, I said it was the only one.>Vaporwave>one vote>literally using RYM tagsClueless idiot.
>>121536718Inb4 he debates whether all these technically count as vaporwave. It's still an incredibly hyper-online selection of genres so my original assessment still stands.
>>121536769Ambient and Indie Pop are not hyper-online selections of music, retard. You don't even know how RYM genre tags work but felt compelled to use that as your gotcha. Idiot! kek
>>121523897>it's not 1977 brothat's a shame, honestlywhy was music back then so much better?I hear people say it's because song-writers were better educated in music and more disciplined, but idk -- there's more people today, so shouldn't there be more better music?
Also I liked how you gave up on the "they're all Japanese" after getting BTFO on that. No argument, no understanding of how genres work. Fucking retard haha.
>>121536799>B-but I'm not chronically online! I'm cool!Don't ask for peoples' opinions if you'll only accept positive ones
>>121536821>I'm not chronically online! My music taste is cool! You were supposed to say I'm cool!
>>121536830>>121536848We're trying to talk about music here, something you now very little about. Go back to whatever shit thread you came from.
>>121530237>the first half of the 90s was a Renaissance in terms of music qualityin anti-establishment attitude, sure, but quslity of music?there's not much of the 90's that gets close to 1970's-quality music.
>>121536811It's because our world is growing more disgusting and demonic. The spirit of creativity is disappearing from the planet. I will say the new Cindy Lee album is genuinely great because it's gone back to good old fashioned sweet 1960s flavoured songwriting.
>>121536853>disrupts thread topic to shill his top 10 oty>wE'rE tRyiNg tO tALk aBoUt mUsiC hEreI'm actually amazed how upset you are. I can't imagine the reasoning behind this. Do you yourself have a vaporwave project so my comment struck a nerve? I honestly was not expecting this much seething, I'm sorry if I ruined your day anon. I think vaporwave is cool, it's just when all you listen to is vaporwave and vaporwave-adjacent.
>>121536883OK, boomer.
>>121536903All the albums are from last year or this year, it's still very much on the topic of recent music whether you like it or not. I don't really care what you think about Vaporwave since I only posted one album that would be considered as such. Do you really get this agitated when someone knows more about music than you? Sorry your RYM gotcha didn't work out, tranny kek.
>>121536904Ok, zoomer
>>121536938Your favorite genre was created by a tranny
>>121537012A millennial tranny. Zoomers have ZERO creativity
>>121537012>one albumYeah, you're clearly triggered. kek
>>121536883>I will say the new Cindy Lee album is genuinely great because it's gone back to good old fashioned sweet 1960s flavoured songwriting.thanks for the tip, brother.searching for that right now.
>>121537012First of all, vaporwave existed LONG BEFORE Floral Shoppe. You only further prove that you know NOTHING about music. As expected from a RYM browsing faggot. Second of all, I told you a million times that VAPORWAVE IS NOT MY FAVORITE GENRE. ONLY ONE!!!! COUNT WITH ME, ONE (1) OF THOSE ALBUMS IS FUCKING VAPORWAVE!!!!!! I guess reading comprehension is also something you lack?! It's humiliating that you get this fucking mad at me. It's kind of actually hilarious how I have you literally raging at me just by existing and knowing basic knowledge about music. Literally fucking kill yourself.
>>121537079Listen to kingdom comehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pBW0y9A1qRY&pp=ygUWa2luZ2RvbSBjb21lIGNpbmR5IGxlZQ%3D%3D
>>121536439Likely fine, so far I've listened to only four albums that were released this year. It feels so dry out there.
>>121536883>I will say the new Cindy Lee album is genuinelynot finding anythingdo you mean this...>Cindy Lee is the drag queen hypnagogic pop project of Canadian musician Patrick Flegel, former guitarist and lead singer of Women.
>>121537091Dude, who's raging? Clearly you're severely autistic so I'm gonna leave you alone now. Sorry.
this is AOTY for me
>>121537104Yephttps://castexotic.com/realistikstudios/
>>121537091Please shut the fuck up, both of you retards.
>>121537091the absolute current state of this site
>>121537092interesting.sounds a little like they're hiding behind all that production and reverb tho
>>121537091>getting this shit-tested by elementary level trollingunderageb&
>>121537167Eh I've showed this song to two boomers born in the early 1950s and they thought it sounded fantastic and they listen to melody
>>121537092Man this shit sucks. Wannabe Ariel Pink garbo.
>>121523881>hypnagogic popNot quite awake music huh? Now I understand everything (doesn't understand anything).
>>121537092This is awful. What the fuck is up with the singer’s voice?
>>121537324>>121537288This sounds way more long fi 1960s, than Ariel pink, you ignorant slobs
>>1215373441. Who the fuck is Ariel Pink and why should I care? 2. This sounds absolutely nothing like 60s music. It’s a bunch of Twee pop with shit vocals and even worse production
>>121523994zoomers can't make music and even if they wanted to they won't at this point because they're all terrified of "starting late" in their early to mid 20s lmfao
>>121537371Yes it does sound 1960s because people who grew up as teenagers in the 1960s told me specifically it sounds like something from the 1960s damn kill yourself idiot
>>121537402They’re clearly lying and wrong. Clearly paid actors trying to shill this trust fund trannycore, but you can’t pull the wool over my eyes
>>121537480Can’t Help Falling in Love Stand by Me Sherry The Wanderer Crazy Have i fulfilled your quota, CIA man?
>>121523881I am asking this genuinely, why does it seem that people who listen to music absolutely refuse to admit that music isn't as good as it used to be? Lots of indie artists today are trust fund kids, but even if they weren't, I think the best music that going to be made has already been made. I think most people who are into other forms of art would admit that the masterpieces of their art forms have already been made. Would someone into literature or film say that they think novels or movies are as good as they used to be? I feel like people have accepted that the greatest novels and films have already been made. I don't think classical or jazz musicians are claiming that their genres are in the same places as they were in the past, why can't rock and pop listeners accept this?
>>121523881This came out. So no, you're wrong.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEzMiACehKU
>>121537581I'll give you my take. It's getting harder and harder to get masterpiece works of art these day, but we still get some rare ones. In the 2020s in film you have "Memoria" by Apichatpong Weerasethakul, in music you have "Dragon New Warm Mountain I Believe in You" by Big Thief. In literature I have no clue.
>>121537581>>121537624Time is relative and you are acting like a jaded loser. There is nothing even remotely new or interesting about your lamebrain takes. People were literally saying Pop/Rock is dead the year Abbey Road came out. People were saying Alt Rock was dead when OK Computer came out, etc. etc.
>>121537644Baby, what albums would you give a 10/10 from the 2020s?
>>121537666What a dumb question since the 2020s aren't even halfway over with.
>>121524776>>121524776fought back against the heartless AI swarmshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVAkriah9OY&list=OLAK5uy_mZ6a9-oYallcWUd_A5oqiCyKxn29V6Rn8&index=8&ab_channel=SlaveAgent-Topic
>>121523881LBGT is not a music descriptor
>>121537747Dude shut up! If they remove it then how will we know what to not listen to?
>>121537744Kek, metal has always been the most formulaic, trite genre. Even the subgenres are just thousands of bands ripping off one band from the 80s. Probably will be the first to be killed by AI
>>121523881It's great. Fags saving music since 1810.
>>121537747It's about the lyrics, rym is full of lyrics descriptor
>>121537723>>121537723I can name multiple 10/10 albums from 1970 to 1973. Now name me some 10/10 albums from 2020 to 2023. Please try to use your brain, we have 4 full years done with from the 2020s
>>121537887I would love to list albums I consider 10s, but I already know from experience this will devolve into "it's not a 10, nu-uh!" and back and forth. Also comparing albums that just came out to ones that have had decades of time between them is completely unfair. TVU for example was fully assessed and given recognition by the public until the '80s, same could be said for a lot of '70s albums.
>>121537959That's false. The Velvet Underground debut was very beloved by musicians and certain critics by the early 70s. You probably like that dorky zoomer Black Country New Road album from 2022 huh
It's at least refreshing how white this year's chart is.
>>121538055Amen, except for the "chosen people" that make up the majority of Vampire Weekend
>>121537581More than anything you bring up the question of what defines a masterpiece, or what conditions allow a work to be called a masterpiece.
>>121538026>The Velvet Underground debut was very beloved by musicians and certain critics by the early 70sI didn't say it wasn't, I said it wasn't fully assessed and given recognition by the public until much, much later. Learn to read you stupid fuck. A handful of musicians or critics saying it's good is hardly an indicator of it being a 10, and also those critics didn't even appreciate it until the late '70s. So you're the one posting false information.
>>121538083Meh. At least even that is a change of pace from the constant spamming of niggers that people will only listen to once and rate it because it was pushed by critics and then forget about
>>121538102Just going by the Wikipedia article on the album it was already getting high praise by the early 70s. And the public? Most of the public don't even know who the Velvet Underground is, secondly this ain't the late 1960s. That album was a shock to the system at the time. What album from the 2020s has been remotely shocking and controversial because of it's new musical language?
>>121538102And I was right about you liking BCNR, huh zoom zoom?
>>121538098I feel like the albums considered "masterpieces" are generally stuff that other artists name as inspirations.
>>121538139>it was already getting high praise by the early 70sNo, it's wasn't, you're pulling this outa your ass. >Most of the public don't even know who the Velvet Underground isCope.>>121538151No, as I've never heard a single song from them. Swing and a miss, turbofag.
>>121538128I agree with you 100%
>>121523881wait til gen alpha hits their 20s. they'll produce nothing
>>121525852you will never attain humanity, nigger
>>121538168I hate this narrative.>millenials and gen z can only nostalgiawank>gen A will produce good musicWhat makes you think they will? If /mu/ keeps saying this, we're gonna end up in a situation where we all circlejerk Gen A shit even tho it sucks even worse than anything before
>>121538215>it hasn't even happened yet and he's already being a contrarian
Thank you bladee for saving 2024
Average of RYM top 10 of each 5 year span (just in case a 5 year span can't compete with a full decade)>20-24 = 3.963>15-19 = 4.081>10-14 = 4.042>05-09 = 4.073>00-04 = 4.173>95-99 = 4.156>90-94 = 4.162>85-89 = 4.081>80-84 = 4.049>75-79 = 4.156>70-74 = 4.186>65-69 = 4.208>60-64 = 4.054>55-59 = 4.018>50-54 = 3.796 (all shit no one listens to)Even RYM userbase agrees, this decade sucks so far.
music stopped at shangaan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnHx6Eurwpg
>>121538646Until shangaan was mogged by singelihttps://youtu.be/VSggQiWY47o?feature=shared
>>121538623I want to see a bar graph for this, but just the numbers are enough to tell how bleak the future looks
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>>121538813A surprise 4.3 release this year would bump 2020-2024 up to a 4 average, still not competing with any of the other year spans since 1955-1959
>>121538813You can see a 25-year pattern slowly toppling over. Second pulse is a bit weaker, third pulse kersplats before it can even get up. Looks like the second half of this decade will be a 3.8 average at this rate
>>121538623>>121538813>>121538855>>121538945Yeah this is fucking depressing, even the rym circlejerk doesnt like new music
>>121523957>>121524143What's the better alternative to RYM? Asking sincerely
>>121539027Literally, last.fm. Part of RYM is the album-first mindset. You'll have to switch to artist-first, but it's better that way because you can get more catered recs
>>121539089thx i'll check it out
>>121525904>what I mean is 2008 gutted a lot of stuff especially music aimed at suburban or working class audiences soBack in the 80s a lot of pop music was about being a working schmoe (probably due to the influence of Bruce Springsteen on music). Songs about being a materialistic yuppie were tongue-in-cheek and kind of satirizing it.
Don’t give a shit. Not gonna listen to any of that goy slop hook nosed produced garbage. “Music” like that is for NPC retards who don’t know any better.
>>121539422what the fuck are you talking about, schizo
>>121525829So what you're saying is WW3 would solve most of our current problems in the world
Have you looked at 2007-09, OP? They were worse. Far, far worse.
>>121538623>50-54 = 3.796 (all shit no one listens to)wut
>>121541237I think he means 1950-54.
>>121541258how very odd considering "The Tennessee Waltz" was the last song i listened to
>>121537581>Would someone into literature or film say that they think novels or movies are as good as they used to be?the question is "would they lay into a zoomer talking ignorant shit on their favorite subject?" answer: yes>>121537644>People were literally saying Pop/Rock is dead the year Abbey Road came outlol gosh are you using some twisted bizarro world logicso because a hypothetical person (not the prevailing majority) had a view when it didn't apply IT MUST ALSO NOT APPLY NOWgenius stuff. you literally don't have a single example
>>121538623>20-24 = 3.963>15-19 = 4.081>10-14 = 4.042I will say about 2010-14 that this seemed to be the last era of pop that was targeted at an audience instead of being totally self-indulgent.
>>121523881>Vampire Weekendis it 2008 again?
>>121523897take me back
>>121537644Truth is, the 20th century was a classical period of sorts for pop culture. It's birth and it's peak. The pattern has been established, now it will be slowly forgotten and ignored as the American Empire collapses and we enter a new medieval period. Maybe someone will find a King Crimson record in five hundred years and we will have a new renaissance. But for our generation, I expect nothing.
>>121537959TVU was recognized when Bowie covered their songs in his most successful period as an artist
>>121537581>>121542570Meant to reply to you
>>121523994it'd probably help to take a break from music altogether and come back to it later
>>121537581 It's very hard for a modern person to admit anything from the past was superior to the way things are now. Even if it's from a very recent past, because since it's from the past, it is old, therefore not modern (modern means new), therefore inferior to whatever is up-to-date and recent. This is the prevailing mentality of modernity since it's birth. Of course, it used to only be applied to the remote past, but now modern man sees itself as superior to the modern man of twenty years ago aswell, and such mentality also extends to art and culture. The only escape would be to treat pop culture as a tradition, and study 20th century guitar music as a sort of classical period, with great reverence for the masters who invented the tradition and the techniques which would later define it. This would be very autistic of course, no one in the 60s and 70s had to do this, they had the privilege of being surrounded by an incredibly fertile culture which we simply do not have, and must artificially simulate if we are to create anything worthwhile.
>>121541237I could've been more clear oops. I meant all the albums on the top 10 for that timespan had like 200 ratings, so I stopped there
>>121536883>It's because our world is growing more disgusting and demonic.you are the worst type of person
>>121523881>Cindy LeeEstablished pitchforkcore since 2008>Adrianne LenkerEstablished pitchforkcore since 2016>Vampire WeekendEstablished mainstream band since 2008Can we just get something new?
>>121538623good work - not so sure no one listens to 50-54 tho
>>121544258but everything has bin dun befo so uh idk man i think i'd rather just keep posting online about tmz and racial stuff
>>121536883>our world is growing more disgusting and demonic>my evidence: an extreme cringe image of mentally ill schizo that only represents 0.00001% of the populationSeriously fuck you and kill yourself. Retards like you need to understand your place in this world, which is most definitely not to be sharing your opinions with others.>good old fashioned sweet 1960s flavoured songwritingNo it hasn't. It's superficially inspired by it but very different. You don't even know what 1960s songwriting actually is, do you?
>>121523881its like that every year lmao
>>121544578>>121538813
>>121544335Everything from then had like 200 ratings. So that + the fact that the average score was significantly lower kind of marks that era as an outlier where the album format stops being as relevant
>>121544653not relevant since rym is infested with zoomer trannies that overrate crap released in last 5 years
>>121544668That's precisely why it's relevant. Even with their circlejerking and overrating, they're admitting music is starting to suck
>>121544578>not relevantthe OP you originally responded to is literally a pic of RYM charts. it's entirely relevant. are you incapable of holding that little amount of context in your working memory?
>>121523881>(c)rap not in the top 3This is a miracle in anything.
OFFICIAL POST-1960 WORST YEARS FOR MUSIC:>1963>1971>1974 - 1975>1987 - 1988>1993>1997 - 2000>2005 - 2007>2012 - 2020
>>121523881>we're still in the indie and token hip-hop stageMainstream culture has been stuck for the past 20 years. Didn't even manage one new thing until AI replaces it
>>121544439Why would it? Oasis claimed to love the 60s but nothing they made sounded like the 60s.
>>121544992How long did croonershit last before rock and roll happened? About that long roughly.
>>121543143>It's very hard for a modern person to admit anything from the past was superior to the way things are now.No it's because they subconsciously think they'll sound like Frank Sinatra ranting against rock-and-roll and "well you just think Olivia Rodrigo sux because you're old and out of touch." Which is a bad attitude to have. Having said that nobody thinks too highly of 2010s pop and there is a great deal of contextual evidence for it.
>>121543143>they had the privilege of being surrounded by an incredibly fertile culture which we simply do not haveThat's not it, it's too many boring people in music with no attitude or edge.
>>121546248Croonershit and rock & roll both came to be out of technological advancements. That's the problem we face now, music production tech peaked around 2011.
>>121544335>good work - not so sure no one listens to 50-54 thoHOW MUCH IS THAT DOOOGGIIEEEE IN THE WINDOOOOWWWWWwonder why
>>121546372>That's the problem we face now, music production tech peaked around 2011Given the general lameness and sterility of modern pop production I would say we went backwards and are worse at producing music than they were in 1971.
>>121546393Even before 2011, much of what was being done is higher definition/bitrate variations on what was already commonplace in the 90s
I hate to have to say this for the 100th time but there is plenty of great music outside of the mainstream. Mainstream music sucks regardless of the era.
>>121546393the defect is using the same preset on everything so all tracks sound exactly the same whereas in the 60s every recording was literally unique. that boils down to simple laziness.
>>121546431>Mainstream music sucks regardless of the eraha ha oh my no there's no comparing 1966 or 1971 or 1984 to anything from the 2010s and you know it
>>121539005>even the rym circlejerk doesnt like new musicNormies waking up to what we knew all along.
>>121525852Very true zoomie. Everything is fine. Nothing has changed. Your women aren't social media addicted whores. You're gonna make it!
>>121527847This. Plus, it was already falling off by the midway point of last decade. Zoomers made RYM shitty and are scared of conversation. Literally no fun allowed.
So gross the way you people think and talk about music. It's not really about art for you at all. Get off RYM and appreciate things like a person.
Julia Holter saved the decade again, as usual. Now we just need a new Joanna Newsom album top it off.
>>121532248>But besides the same vapid pop on repeat most "conscious" artists are still only writing about themselves, their feelings, drenched in irony, failing to hit any sort of zeitgeist, etc.Jason Aldean was the only guy who did pull that off recently but he's a boomer born in the 70s.
>>121546465But it's the 20s now dumbo
>>121546701No, Julia Holter talking about Chad's cock for two hours hasn't "saved music."
>>121546805You're conflating her with Gaylor Swift.
>>121546634>you can only enjoy music on a personal, sentimental level>taking an interest in larger scale trends over time is... le heckin inhuman!
>>121546841I don't know what she's talking about, but it doesn't sound that great. I don't think this decade needs saving, personally. But if it did, her new album wouldn't make a dent.
>>121546852Many people don't "take an interest," they seem to obsess and think it actually means something concrete. The trends on RYM have no basis in reality, they're just the opinions of other people who use that site. If you had a different community on a different site, the trends would be completely different, and also meaningless. It just takes you further and further away from the actual thing.And I didn't mean just about the trends when I posted that.
>>121539089Last.fm sucks
>>121539089Bruh
>>121532621post some examples, because I agree with you and actually want to find more interesting shit
>>121548072>spoonfeed meThis is part of the problem. It's like /mu/tants need everything to be /mu/-approved, but eventually /mu/ approves nothing. So you can find examples yourself. Bandcamp is designed to help you search new music via tags
So I wonder what happens to music after Trump is back in office next year. We've seen everything trending towards country and rap is basically finished at this point.
>>121547168You're not supposed to use last.fm to spoonfeed you what good music taste is. Jesus, is this how far gone you are? I meant like search an artist you like and itll rec you similar artists. Oh my god
>>121548123I'll tell you. All the black artists will switch to country, denouncing trump again. But this time they'll be >serious this time. It'll be like... >i'm not outraged anymore>im just broke now...>our country failed us...>again...>orange hitler should be in prison...>but hes president...>im just totally broken...
>>121548115no, I barely use here and generally find my own stuff (not so much on bandcamp though,) I'm just curious what the few people here who do that have found because I don't make a point to keep up with current music. it's more productive to actually post interesting music than to bitch about pop/"""indie""" music monoculture shitting the bed and how that somehow means no good music can be made anymore over and over. there's no point to a place like this existing if you disincentivize giving recs because it's "spoonfeeding," it's just as stupid as calling anything obscure getting posted "shilling."I guess this is some recent good stuff for the people ITT that think music is somehow dead now despite existing for the entirety of human historyhttps://benhjertmann.bandcamp.com/album/visitorshttps://extralife.bandcamp.com/album/secular-works-vol-2https://maculadog.bandcamp.com/album/orange-2https://mariareis.bandcamp.com/album/benef-cio-da-d-vidahttps://rafwilcot.bandcamp.com/album/cinnabar-bouquet
>>121548072i like this onehttps://untitledexe.bandcamp.com/album/anesthesia-for-a-hearthe's had some niche popularity before, but his best stuff is from after that simmered down
Music is creatively dead, it was heading this way for well over a decade, the amount of recorded music put out ever since the release of Rubber Soul in 1965 is astronomical so it was bound that it would eventually stagnate in quality.
>>121548123low quality b8
>>121550091It's all been downhill since proto-Jamal invented rhythm 100,000 years ago
>>121523881>p4k hype job>indie darlings>gay cowboysWe're so fucking back
>>121523881I just want catchy mainstream pop songs back
>>121551662god dammit. kek
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>>121525852music has been shit since the 80s ended and i'm not a millenial. NIGGER.
>>121537116its meh sadly. but you may be right... how sad that is...
