Why is this place so dead? Is this proof music is dying as an art form?
>>129167459it is slow considering everyone's snowed in today in the Northeast
it's proof that we're dying at an alarmkng rate
>>129167459>>129167469>>129167470I honestly think we have to face the simple fact that this place is a retirement home for the users who spent too many years investing in this place for insight that never came. It's a sunk-cost fallacy on steroids. Even three years ago, this place had twice the amount of activity, but now, we couldn't be deader.
>>129167459Poor moderation and annoying fags that don’t go away like this guy >>129167487
>>129167459>Is this proof music is dying as an art form?I have no idea how anyone could possibly think this based off /mu/ being dead. Even at it's peak /mu/ was not that influential.
>>129167569If you think I'm the reason this board is dead, you are delusional.
>>129167569The guy is telling you the truth. Places like this are not meant to be relevant and popular forever.
>>129167585We literally put death grips animal collective and milk hotel on the map
4chan as a whole is an obnoxious shithole thats been in the decline for years and you just notice it here more because its always been a slower board
>>129167469the NorthEast what? England? that' not going to affect shit
>>129167624that’s sad. Where do I go to stay up to date for new music discussion?
>>129167632rym
I ain't replying to a tripfag.
>>129167632considering every new album that gets posted here is flooded with messages of 'buy an ad faggot' and 'youre posting in a shill thread' probably anywhere else.
>>129167608Because we actually had traffic. It's impossible to promote content when you have no traffic.
>>129167459mostly because of too many posts like yoursbe the change yada yada yada kike
>>129167727Here's the thing. You can make all the quality threads you want and even share music with people who respond (I know I have), but it only goes so far. You need at least 20 people capable of making such threads. We have, at most, 5.And then, there are genrefags who prefer to isolate in their respective threads. Nothing wrong with them and many are quite knowledgeable about their niches but they lack range.
>>129167585/mu/ had 11 million posts per year in the early 2010s. It was the largest music board on the entire internet. This board played a major role in things like NMH's reunion and the success of Death Grips. It was frequented by all kinds of people both fans and artists themselves from that early 2010s indie zeitgeist.
My genuine observation and understanding from others is that the majority of boards on 4chan, definitely including /mu/, is that it mostly moves through general threads. Which leads to the death of having a "board culture". Instead every general has its own micro-culture and familiarity, leading to posters spending less time browsing the catalog for a wider discussion and audience. Furthermore, generals are significantly less moderated than the catalog which allows for mentally ill spammers to essentially dominate a general thread, forcing earnest posters to find other forums for discussion and completely dissuades lurkers from even beginning to engage.
>>129167743nice self defeating attitude you have, the point still stands you're contributing to the bullshit, this thread is a waste of space
I think music is doing fine but it's become decentralized. While the internet as a whole has collapsed into just a few sites, music discussion is now spread across places like discord, twitter, and instagram and music fandoms are varied and have little overlap. I'm still able to discover things that I love and talk about them with likeminded people but it's much more difficult than it was when you could find everything on /mu/. Which by the way was only really 2010-2014. A variety of factors wrecked this place irreparably in 2015.
I spent as much time talking with my therapist about how much I miss the community I had here as I did about my divorce.
>>129167459generals like /kpop/ have historically killed boards as they deter anyone who isn't interested. You don't see any posts about ITAOTS Loveless or other classics.Dead board, sad.
>>129167910KPOP fags usually stay in their ghettos. I don't see them trying to take over other threads.
>>129167923Letting /kpop/ exist even though it has zero (0) music discussion eventually lead to every western pop star having a dedicated thread and simps who shitpost their wpop idol beyond their generals.
>>129167942>>129167923it's an automated spambot making those threads. just hide and ignore them.
my guess would be the same reason there arent a lot of music review youtube channels.There isnt much to say about music. Its way more subjective. If i like a piece of music, what do i gain from watching a review saying its shit? Or discussing it with people trying to make them like it when they just dont like the sound?There just isnt much to say other than “i like this” or “its dogshit”
>>129167923>>129167942>>129167950This is what the catalog looks like right now>SIX fucking kpop generals>SIX more fucking generals>ONE thread about making music>ONE thread about an irrelevant bedroom pop artist (this one is fine)Do you see how fucking dire the situation is?
>>129167942I'm not one to talk as I've posted threads about my darling before taking on my trip, but you do have a point that those threads serve little purpose than content dumps akin to 2010s Tumblr pages. Having a thread flooded with webms, gifs and jpgs provide little to discuss and instead just take up space.My test to these people is simple. Describe your favorite musician without saying what they look like, what kind of clothes or costume they wear, what instruments they play, their vocal range, what genre of music they make, how famous they are, who they dated, fought with, or were "canceled" by and what awards, records, or chart positions they have. Describe them to your friends like they ain't ever heard them before.The point of this test is to determine if you, as a fan, can discern if your beloveds have artistic and lyrical depth that go beyond their personal lives and appearances. What about their music resonates with you and would you still be fans of your favorite Pop stars if, for some implausible reason, you were rendered blind and only able to experience their music via sound rather than image? If you can't describe your favorite Pop Star in terms of songwriting, lyrical themes, range, instrumental or compositional skills beyond their genre, then you're left with little substance. Just spectacle.
I wish there was a way to know you're in the Good Old Days before you've actually left them
kpop gen floods the board with crap, any room left is filled with other generals.generals killed the board.
>>129167910>>129167942>>129167969Kpop general is a non issue. It always existed since at least 2011 and it was fine back then because the board was healthy. It just sticks out now because it drives close to 50% of the board's total traffic. Kpop posters stick to their own thread and they have nowhere else to go. I don't think most of them interact with the rest of the board at all.
>>129167910>>129167923>>129167942>>129167910Kpop chad here. We do discuss the music. Its just there is only about ~20 top girl groups and they arent releasing music every single day. So we discuss everything surrounding the music while we wait. But yes we do discuss music over there. More than you guys who just seethe about Kurt Cobain daily.You should be thanking us, without us this board would be completely deadhttps://youtu.be/ES9oYbzYCh8?si=Oy1y95wzrjTsab3c
>>129168003You ruined everything Atleast talk about western artists like doja cat Sabrina carpenter and tate McRae.
>>129167459Music is not dying and it never will. Instrumental music players however are dying. People are not learning anymore how to play.
>>129168003Dead boards still have good content. See /lit/ for instance. The problem is that kpop floods the board and pushes down any other topic. Generals should simply be banned from every board like what they did with /v/, but there's no viral marketing money in it so hiroshomoot doesn't care.
>>129168003I don't have a bug up my ass about KPOP like other anons do.
>>129168024How does it push other threads down? This board has what, over 100 active threads at a time. Kpop general uses one and then when it dies they make another one and the old ones drop off of the catalog. I agree it's not healthy that we have for example prog or metal generals which would otherwise be spread across several threads and invite different posters to interact instead of the same two dozen guys hanging out in their general all day. But kpop being confined to one thread has been a thing for 15 years and has never been an issue
>Kpop chad hereNo such thing, (You) denied
>>129167459/mu/ has always sucked. what a lame board. I don't know why its so bad. that's why I rarely post here.are the Soulseek chatrooms even as lame as /mu/? its questionable.
>>129168038there are six on the catalog right now
>>1291674594chan got invaded by nazis and alt right conspiracy theorist, and it bleed through the whole site alienating and scaring away a bunch of traffic. I used to hang out here from 2006 to around 2018, and i was taken by surprise how in 2026 every /metal/ thread in /mu/ is filled with schizos nazi trolls, i remember when we used to have very open and awesome /metal/ threads back in the day, such a shame.
>>129168076It's a function of those threads filling up fast whereas /wpop/ is much slower.
>>129168098>le /pol/ boogeymanYou best be trollin. Racists have been a part of imageboards for a very long time. If this fact makes you uncomfortable, you have no business being here to begin with.
>>129168114It's not a boogeyman. This board had no political arguments in the early 2010s and it was the only board I'm aware of where you could be banned for racism. It had a culture very separate from the rest of the site, which also was mostly apolitical and just enjoyed racist and edgy humor. In the lead up to Trump's election /pol/ exploded in popularity with actual retarded conservatives from facebook and more importantly, from re eddit after they banned the trump sub, sending literally millions of 80iq refugees here to turn this place into the same retarded culture war bullshit that had infected the rest of the internet.
>>129168149Then where did they all go?
>>129168038Don’t be retarded >>129168076This guy gets it >>129168101Stay out of it troll
>>129168114The fact that you think that 4chan was always overun by Racists reveals that you definitely weren't here in the mid to late 2000s.
>>129168151They're still here. Obviously they've diffused and migrated with the rest of the board over the last 10 years, and they were always much more interested in /pol/ and /v/ than they were in /mu/. But that's why this board is dead but you can still get a thread to bump limit by baiting about identity politics.
>>1291681605 threads that hit bump limit but still in the catalog and one active
>>129168149yep, this is 100% true.
>>129168160The threads being pushed off by a kpop thread that died 4 hours ago are dead threads
>>129168114Know you history fool, there was a time before /pol/, when /b/ was king of internet culture and /mu/ was where high taste music was elevated.
I think we should have had threads about 2000s alternative bands 24/7, instead of focusing on granddad music from 50 years ago, spotify : Black Sabbath : 16m, Evanescence : 24m, Can : 490k, A7X : 10m, Led Zeppelin : 19m Fall Out Boy : 31m...
>>129167589I roll my eyes every time I'm hanging out in one of the rare decent threads on this board and you post in it
The biggest difference I've noticed throughout the years is that /mu/ became way more horny. You cannot convince me that any female popstar that is posted on /mu/ has fans who actually care about the music and going through their generals proves it. There are so many pornographic boards on 4chan yet /mu/ now mostly serves as this odd SFW celebrity masturbation board.
>>129168214We had waifu jerking threads back in the day honestly. I think it just sticks out more now because all the good threads disappeared but we still have the waifu jerking.
>>129168149>>129168151>>129168163>>129168187If racists were as insignificant as you claim they were, Operation: SOHH Cash wouldn't have been possible. Before /pol/, there was /new/. /pol/ was started out of the ashes of /new/ because the demand to discuss politics on this site was steadfastly increasing. I remember the threads on 2008 /b/ where anons were having contentious discussions about Obama. Sure, libtards were present but so were racists.>>129168162My earliest imageboards were gurochan, 4chan, 7chan, 711chan and 99chan. Unironic racists existed back then. They may have been told to fuck off to Stormfront if they made everything political, but others were smart enough to engage in discussions about politics and race with others listening.
>>129168245Look at this fool larping as an oldfag.
>>129168245>fuck off to StormfrontThis is how I remember every instance of racism being responded to here in the early 2010s. I didn't spend much time on other boards but I know for a fact politics was just not a thing on /mu/ until this site got flooded by election tourists. Ok maybe the "unbearable whiteness of indie" article on pitchfork in 2014 got things going a little earlier.
>>129168261Yup. I’ve even baited him with false info and seen him regurgitate it like a /mu/cow bitch KEK
>>129168245It was never the main driving culture of the site, unlike today. You are delusional. It was all for the lulz back then. You weren't there.
>>129168214>You cannot convince me that any female popstar that is posted on /mu/ has fans who actually care about the music and going through their generals proves itI love and care about my waifu's music
Yep there goes the schizos bullying another poster off of /mu/
>>129168261I'm not roleplaying. I've genuinely been shitposting on IBs for almost 20 years this summer.>>129168272/mu/ was fairly libtarded until maybe 2014 during the Ferguson riots. 2016 did change much of the site, but let's not act as if the seeds weren't already sown long before Trump ran. Lots of Ron Paul supporters were unironic racists, and even he openly interacted with White Nationalists.>>129168281I was. I even remember when anons despised Encyclopedia Dramatica. 7chan wordfiltered it out to Encyclopedia Newfagia until bitching about newfags got passe.
>>129168306Nineveh is fucking retarded he posts his lukewarm uninformed takes in every fucking thread all day long
>>129168312>Flexing on being a shitposter for 20 yearsSomehow that's even more lame and sad than larping as an oldfag.
>>129168312It doesn't matter that racists were here. They coexisted in a way that didn't make the whole board a miserable web of political arguments. It was only when the fucking maga retards flooded the board that every thread got filled up with unfunny tranny and numale jokes.
>>129168312People like you are the reason this board is dead now.
>>129167469...People are in their houses fucking shitposting when its cold. People dont have to drive here you retard
>>129167607But the population is going up and there is literally no place like this. I dont buy it. Fuck you retard!!
>>129168368Not true. /mu/ at its best was full of obnoxious tripfags. Dozens of them. They had whole threads just to play stupid popularity contest games. Somehow the board was still good in spite of that. Nineveh is just hilarious because he's like the only tripfag on a dead board going out of his way to sign every one of his useless posts.
>>129168380HA! I was on Krautchan when that first got made. It was made by an Irish Bernd who then went AWOL. Not the same Irish Bernd who has a taste for thicc and curvy women.
>>129167632RYM
>>129168385I'm being serious anon, if you use RYM and Discord and even Twitter properly, instead of just writing them off because bitter posters here say they're "tranny" or whatever, it is genuinely a better experience than current day /mu/.
>>129167883Go back
>>129168406Go back where
>>129167950Fuck that. Delete them
>>129168386Big reason I assumed a trip is because one poster kept impersonating me.
>>129168385I'm assuming you're not young anymore though you don't seem very mature either and that's what you're really grieving about.
>>129168386Hot take I thought all the off topic posting and tripfaggot stuff was fun. /mu/ had a totally different culture from the rest of the site so having off topic threads where I could talk about whatever with /mu/tants was a good time. And I really got to like some of the tripfags. Some of them tried really hard to be quality posters because they were using a name. I also miss the generated trips with words in them.
>>129168405>if you use RYM and Discord and even TwitterAll of those sites lack the specific type of anonymity that make 4chan special.
>>129168387It's a perfect gif
>>129168445I went to college with one of the tripfags. He hasn't posted here in almost a decade.
>>129168444Fuck you retard!!
>>129167459twitter/discord took a lot of users, and the younger generation doesn't even discuss anything on the internet rather than just endlessly scroll
>>129168447I think anonymity is doomed to burn out over time. There has to be some level of accountability or else posting quality dives off a cliff. It is fun while it lasts though. As I get older I appreciate having an identity and building rapport with recognizable people.
>>129168000Do you not know how the board works, retard? Endless spam bumps threads off of page 10 constantly so that any slow thread can't live at all beyond a few hours.
>>129168471Oh no you mean threads that nobody has posted in for 6 hours will slide off of the board?! Getting threads bumped by kpop general is a skill issue. Ban kpop general and this board actually just dies. Last time I tried to calculate they legitimately make up half of the total traffic to this shithole.
>>129168464Yeah that's a pretty good point. I often feel like I'm having the same old conversation with the same people, but we're all anonymous so we all think we're speaking with different people.
>death grips>animal collectiveI don’t like those bands. We have other threads you don’t have to listen to that stuff
>>129168335He seems like a cool guy from what I’ve seen here
Probably because politics infested every corner of the internet now, and you can't actually multitask. Anons are incentivized to post political ragebait threads that basically come down to>this /mu/-related individual did a cucked/degenerate thing I can post in the context of the culture wars!
I blame Hillary Clinton for the downfall of mu.
You know actually I have a major correction to make here which is that I've been saying for weeks now every time someone asks for a timeline of /mu/s downfall that it coincided with reddit banning r/thedonald in 2015, but I just doublechecked and that actually happened in 2020. I still think the 2015 election did this site in but I guess there was not a flood of reddit refugees in that year.
>>129168480Kys >>129168516>t.magfag
>>129167585Lmao what a newfag. We made many obscure bands relevant
K-pop and waifu threads are what is keeping the board alive in the first place, you should be thankful... ingrates.
>>129168556Pokémon go to 4channel
>>129168591It will flourish when you fags finally leave
>>129168149correct
>>129167632R/fantanoforever
