Hey /jazz/, whatcha listening to?
sonny fortune, lee morgan, hiromi
>>131063465Watching Cecil Taylor & Tony Oxley - Live in Strasbourg 2009 lon youtube right now.
>>131063465Also, Bobby Hutcherson rules and the vibraphone rules, based OP.
>>131064953wordprefer his middle/late era work tho
These threads prove there are like 4 people here who actually like jazz and maybe 75 fusion tourists that want to talk about the same 16 albums over and over
>>131065853kkkkkk
for this morning
whos your favorite clarinet players in jazz? https://youtu.be/IcHnUtbyA_k
>>131069969ben goldberg recently https://youtu.be/RJRoSbDhd00?si=Y2nPD6LfRfLGDHaroguz buyukberber is cool too but i can't be bothered to find much on youtube rn
Haven't listened to a ton of jazz lately but these are the most recent comparatively.
>>131072207>Freddie HubbardI've been wearing out Speak No Evil the last few days, and Hubbard's playing is really standing out to me. Time to do a deep dive I guess, I'll check those out.
>>131072315Shorter is my all time favorite saxophonist. Good taste.
>>131072358Honestly cannot get enough of this album. Shorter is an incredible songwriter. Juju is next, and I'd take a few recommends if you got any
>>131072550For shorter or just jazz in general? That'll vary my answer.
i rec
>>131064978Listening to this now - cerebral, feels a little experimental, not bad at all, really interesting>>131072781Shorter please - mostly know him from Miles collabs and want to dig into his discographyThx for continued recs, going thru them while I work today
>>131073852>Shorter pleaseI mean all of his stuff is great but I think the most interesting is his 1971 album Odyssey of Iska. It's an experimental third stream big band album. The opener to Side B (After Love, Emptiness) is considered one of the best things he ever made, if not THE very best.
>>131063465I was sat up at 3 am the other day with my best friend listening to Bill Evans. Just us, nobody around, while I Loves You Porgy played. It was very cool
>>131073896Herbie Hancock’s solos on these mid 60s post bop albums are just insane. He was so far ahead of his time.
>>131068831Based. Worth listening to anything Gary Versace plays piano on.
Been listening to this one a lot. Really great 70s post bop. Beirach’s piano solos are all so good.
>>131065853Pancakes! Why does everyone keep talking about pancakes?
>>131065910I have never listened to this album and I'm the usual BJ shitposter.
>>131072207>The QuestOne of my favourites, nobody like Waldron really, he's closer to Satie than he is to other jazz pianists.
>>131072315Hubbard's solo in Stolen Moments by Oliver Nelson is incredible. All four solos in that track are actually.
>>131073407Too many horns, lately i've been only into one horn/wind ensembles.
Do you guys watch Emmet’s place? The last one with Chris Potter. John Patitucci, and Jon Blake was insane
>>131063465last jazz i listened to was the cowboy bebop OST while hauling ass on the interstate
>>131074761No, his hair annoys me.
>>131074761i enjoyed hearing emmet with a different drummer but im not that into chris potter
>>131074150Thanks anon really enjoyed this
Opus 5 is so good
give me some basic ass bop with decent drumming and im happy
>>131084904https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xHRHlqI7AM
>>131084946pretty nice drumming last half of this
What are your Top 5 blue note albums?Mine:Herbie Hancock - Maiden VoyageSam Rivers - ContoursWayne Shorter - Speak No EvilBobby Hutcherson - Stick UpAndrew Hill - Black FireHard to narrow it down to five honestly
>>131087391uuuh idkbut I'd like to lay down my contrarian take 50s blue note > 60s blue note
>>131087475Yeah that’s a bad take
Im fucking FEELING it, lads
This album needs probably a few more listens, but it's pretty interesting. I'm gonna check out their other early inputs like BYG releases.
>>131087391top 5:Kind of Blue Giga Extended edition,The Horace Silver Quintet – Doin' The Thing - At The Village GateDexter Gordon – Our Man In ParisHank Mobley – No Room For Squares'Cliff Jordan - Cliff Jordan
>>131089814theres good free jazz and this is not it, this is fraud jazz
Everyone talks about Keith Jarrett moaning while playing and some do about Bud Powell and Thelonious Monk, but I haven't seen Herbie Hancock making vocal sounds while playing mentioned. By any means, I don't find it annoying at all but always notice it when I listen to most albums where he played especially in Blue Note sessions.
>>131074761Seeing Chris Potter live melted my brain
>>131090572where did you see him?
>>131069969sidney bechet>>131073852>Shorter pleaseeverything with joe chambers>>131087391>Top 5 blue note albumsthe magnificent thad jones;ready for freddie;leapin' and lopin';our man in paris;adam's apple.but most of all i cherish the complete sets of monk and bud powell for blue note.
I think it's better than Time Out
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HdP1DCakT9oThis track is embedded in My soul now, I thinks it's one of the greatest pieces of music ever put on record. Thank You for the beautiful sounds Sonny, rest in peace.
>>131092837to think he only died a few months ago. his long life somehow made his death a non-event; he sort of outlived his fame. crazy though, he was one of the absolute greats of the 20th century.
>>131069969my grandad god bless
>>131087429love this one
hey jazzheads, favourite chord?
>>131074150this looks sick, thanks
>>131074536based comment
>>131084904
>>131090415all those names sound like angels compared to jarrett, sometimes his moaning sounds like raped hyenas >>131091162it's not>>131093433no
don't sleep on this excellent blakey date outside of the messengers. both mccoy tyner and sonny stitt are great.https://youtu.be/I3f6L0KM4hQhttps://youtu.be/C5SdZ55O4S4https://youtu.be/rqn8dvMUujY
>>131093412bill evans & jim hall had such great chemistry
whats your favorite cannonball albums? https://youtu.be/wYSB6dlwHYo
>>131094036damn that shit goes down smooth
>>131102626since somethin' else is basically a miles date (and it really is something else!), i'll go with pic rel.https://youtu.be/7RA9PFLQeCg
>>131102626this is so over the top (but in a good way?). that drummer, man...https://youtu.be/bRv9T06Gk74
>>131101139>Naked City's 'Radio' mentionedI love you.
>>131104438late 60s had some great drummers https://youtu.be/_206iaPqg3U
Hey fellas, do any of you know any albums with EXTREMELY quiet/soft drumming?
>>131106769
you could breakdance to this shit https://youtu.be/NFNNSxy6H5M
>>131112937>no charlie christian
shufflin dis
>>131109350you could even fuck to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h2UUeyibhc
>>131079137>>131093650If you liked that one, you should also check out this. A little more out there but really good.
Any of you guys collect vinyl? How big is your jazz collection. Any treasures? Listening to this right now on vinyl. Underrated trio album.
>>131116920Ive probably got around 250 jazz records btw
>>131116920fuck trying to collect decent jazz in 2026. the market is mostly fucking coo coo retard.
>>131116982Yeah records were probably half as expensive 15 years ago. Luckily I probably had over half my collection at that point. You can still find good obscure 70s and 80s stuff for decently cheap if you know where to look. And Blue Note has been reissuing a lot of its catalog for somewhat affordable prices.
>>131116920>Any of you guys collect vinyl? Absolutely. I started thrifting in middle school and have over 2000. As far as jazz specifically here's a few highlights: >Miles (obviously)>Quincy Jones >Herbie Hancock>Chick Corea>Jan Hammer>Jeff Lorber >Gil Scott Heron >Brian Auger>Nina Simone>Bobby McFerrin>The Laws brothers >The Mangione brothers >The Brecker brothers>The Crusaders >George Duke>Tom Scott>Weather Report >Carlos Santana >Oregon>Gato Barbieri>Jean Luc Ponty >Zappa>Spyro Gyra >a lot of major releases on Pablo Records, CTI, Tappan Zee, Strata-East, and Black JazzAnd tons of others but if I listed all the one-off albums from artists who disappeared after a single release I'd just be here all night
>>131119967whats the album below bitches brew?
>>131120298https://open.spotify.com/album/2FbVN08tPRbCfe8wLe3lRj
>>131063465To Whites and Japanese that know a lot of theory and have high IQ
>>131121707thanks m80
>>131116920i dont like the sound of vinyl/analog compared to digital, sorry. especially for jazz and classical.
>131121755>bill evans>ryo fukui>list goes on!
>>131063465More jazz-adjacent than jazz but the new Thundercat is baller
>>131119967do you think that anyone has gotten into jazz by following this? like maybe if you go the middle route, but if you take the left path im gonna say you are fucked unless you are atleast 40+
>>131123618People have turned chartposting into a "look at me! I can fit in, too!" sorta game, it's not about the music anymore. The jazz fusion and jazz guitar ones especially.
What I've learned today:>"Jasm" derives from or is a variant of the slang term "jism" or "gism", which the Historical Dictionary of American Slang dates to 1842 and defines as "spirit; energy; spunk." "Jism" also means semen or sperm, the meaning that predominates today, making "jism" a taboo word. Consistent with that etymology, the jazz composer Eubie Blake (1887–1983), when interviewed by a woman for Yale's Oral History of American Music project, refused to use the word "jazz" because he thought it was uncouth.[3] Deepening the nexus among these words is the fact that "spunk" is also a slang term for semen and that "spunk"—like jism/jasm—also means spirit, energy, or courage (for example: "She showed a lot of spunk").>mfwDoes that mean that Jazz is just some sort of elaborate musical gooning?Anyway, to stay on topic I am currently listening to Alex Sipiagin's Reverberations, a really fun and accessible modern jazz album : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj8GiT8siDE.
>>131123732i dont know why everyone needs to announce when they learned something so basic and obvious. anyway congratulations on the promotion.
>>131123618Flowcharts don't really work well on jazz since you're supposed to be following styles of improv that are more accurately designated by eras, coasts, labels, etc., not genres. Genre flowcharts are best suited for pop/rock.
>>131123732i dont like modern jazz because it all sounds like they are reading charts while they play it.
I think people should have open minds about jazz and let the music come into their lives as they find records and cds in the world.It's not easy anymore, I realize this. But someone could go to my local used record store, flip through the cds and start a decent collection. You might not find Kind of Blue, or Blue Train. But you might get ESP, Ballads and some random Art Blakey cd.That's way more sovl than a fucking flowchart.>stay away from the vinyl. You dont want none of that.
>>131125331
>>131102626Either this one or the Bossa Nova one depends on my mood.
>>131126595based
>>131123618i didn't think people really literally followed flowcharts. i would just check them all out and memorize the artists
>>131117511i'm 20 and i started collecting at 10 in 2016. unfortunately i was just looking for like the beatles and the monkees and would buy something like dark side of the moon on a whim. even then i would see classic albums in the dollar bin i never see for less than 15-20. i mostly thrift now because i hate the current record market and i have better luck finding 50-200 dollar psych records i don't even like anymore then finding $5 Everest archive of music jazz records. fuck this.
>>131127529Try antique stores, hospice shops and estate sales. These are less likely to be picked over by normies.I found $2 Bill Evans last year at a hospice shop.Pawn shops can sometimes have gold. They are going to cater to boomer rock and big names and more likely to undervalue obscure stuff.Facebook marketplace is good to monitor as well. Stay in touch with people.>hey save my number for next time you want to downsize your collection. I'm always looking for more jazz.
>>131127430It seems like no one ever mentions In Chicago. Does it have a bad reputation or something I just dont know about?
>>131127871I don't see it mentioned often, like, say, Something Else or the bossa nova one, but whenever I do see it mentioned it's always with praise. The line-up alone is baller.
>>131125331>stay away from the vinyl. You dont want none of that.BASED
>>131126595>>131127871Yeah In Chicago is a great album
This is gooooood
>>131065853old jazz sucks
>>131129672>everything before bebop sucksagreed
>>131129748what about charlie christian at mintons
Gimme the sexiest jazz sax tracks you have
>>131065853You can usually tell who is actually listening to jazz and who just uses it as a fashion accessory
>>131133791tru dat, u rite
>>131129927Feels so Good by Grover Washington. Or Mr. Magic. Something by him anyways
>>131129927Najee - Betcha Don't Know
>>131129748Filtered by King Oliver and Louis Armstrong and Bix Beiderbecke.
>>131139615minstrel shows, pass.
>>131140472Retard
Is it my inner chud messing with me or is this really a thing? This is clearly an intentional way of rearranging the word "Messengers", out of many possibilities, as this obviously does not follow the standard English rules of hyphenation, and not just some kind of unfortunate coincidence nor pareidolia on my part.The creation of an album cover was, especially in the pre-digital or pre-IA era, a time consuming craft and I cannot believe no one at Blue Note saw that at any point of its inception and went "Hm, maybe we should slightly alter the formatting." especially during the wider historical context of the civil rights movement when this album came out in 56.So my theory is that a disgruntled graphic designer found a way to weasel the no-no word inside that cover to get back at those loathed melanin-rich individuals with which he was forced to work in order to pay his rent.
>>131063465Listening to this album right now
>>131141129No you fool it’s completely a contemporary chud thing, this is perfectly acceptable graphic design and most people wouldn’t notice without you pointing it out. Then they might laugh a bit and/or find you weird.But the alleged supernatural power of the word was not a thing back then.*man, fuck this fucking site… wait a minute, answer 70 captchas, your ip range is banned, wait more
>>131140482racism is not okay, buddy
>>131141129people pointed this out already decades ago and they fixed it, if i remember correctly only 2 or 3 albums did this, its even been mentioned in books and interviews, so stop overthinking it you adhd automaton
Anyone fuck with this, or their previous record? Definitely my favorite jazz record of the year, it’s really playful and fun but also can get pretty stanky and dissonant, without ever stooping to nonsensical bullshit. Some of the peaks of this record are super intense
>>131129927I've fucked to this https://youtu.be/wsxcZ8qNCAQ
Anybody ever notice how there’s this push to rename jazz “Black American Music” (BAM) and white people playing jazz is seen as problematic and cultural appropriation? And jazz clubs and labels will advertise themselves as “Black Owned”.Yet you will find all these think pieces about how important it is to get more racial diversity in classical music and orchestras, etc. And if anybody even so much as suggested renaming classical music “White European Music” or celebrated being a “white owned” concert venue, they would be crucified on the cross of antiracism?There seems to be a pretty obvious double standard there to me.
>131147578>vicimhood spacing
>>131147578>Anybody ever notice how there’s this push to rename jazz “Black American Musici've literally never seen this mentioned before
>>131147683It’s a big thing with contemporary American players. They’ll end all their social media posts with #BAM. Nicholas Payton, very excellent trumpet player, I think he won’t even say the word jazz anymore. He refers to it only as BAM
>>131147669>>131147744do soul and hip hop players and whatever else also use this label?
>>131147578You’re not allowed to noticeIf you do notice, you are wrong If it’s true, it’s actually a good thing
>>131127471i didnt either but it just fun to entertain strange ideas sometimes
>>131147578racism is fine but being a nazi isnt. that might seem like a double standard but its not
>>131063465Been working my way thru this. On Lenny Breau rn, kinda boring actually lol. The standouts are definitely the highlighted albums and anything Wes Montgomery>>131112955he doesn't really have albums tho, there are anthologies but yea, he is sorely missing from a "jazz guitar guide" chart
>>131147683this. it's basically a bunch of pol-tourist MAGA trash fake martyr bullshit>reeeeeeeeeee reverse racism!oh give it a rest. fuck's sake.>>131147744>buh buh this one guy is all BAM so it's a thing nowBAM will never be a thing. like fetch.
>>131149362>>131112937
>>131149369So your argument is that reverse racism isn’t real, or that it is real but it’s a good thing?
>>131147908I’ve never seen them use it, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. I’ve only ever seen it used as a synonym for jazz.
>>131149452Hmmm>>131147963Prophetic
>>131149463But I thought Black Classical Music was meant to be the jazz synonym, are they getting their wires crossed or what
>>131149452you know how chuds say "the holocaust didn't happen but I wish it did"? replace holocaust with reverse racism
>>131147578I've never seen this but then again i am not american or in the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBIodMU-j8sAny free funk/avant jazz niggas itt?
>>131147578jazz is black american music, but its also a big tent and has broad, inclusive roots. like gumbo. as to black owned and white owned, regarsless of the truth of what youre saying (like give us a factual example), there's no need to post the rule, but there is to post the exception. This is obvious, is obvious in all similar examples, and your just playing ignorant and contrary to be racist, most likely. people call classical music white european music all the time and thats why diversity is good. diversity is good in jazz too. just dont be racist. sorry thats hard for you to figure out.
>>131151018I recognize all those words but you’re not really saying anything except ‘don’t be racist’, wtf even are you, are you real? Human?
>>131151051>I recognize all those wordstry reading them instead of looking at them
>>131150082You didn’t answer my question. Are you the chud in this situation… or…
>>131151018Show me one example ever of anyone referring to Classical music as white European music. Video or published writing
>>131152264i'm making fun of holocaust deniers and chuddie wuddies, mate
>>131152599So your argument is that reverse racism isn’t real, or that it is real but it’s a good thing?
>>131153115I wasn't the one making the argument, I just wanted to propose my interpretation via analogy
These albums are incredible
>>131153243>t. Enormous faggot
I live in Manhattan and go see live jazz on average about once a week. I took this picture of Miguel Zenon at Smalls.
>>131157877>reverse faggotry is realno it isnt
>>131158231How's the scene actually like? I see a lot of people online saying New York jazz scene is just a bunch of expensive clubs aimed at tourists that will waste hundreds for the experience
>>131147578blues is the real BAM
>>131158231wanna go there someday or go to Monas
>>131159803There is definitely some of that but it would be an exaggeration to say the scene is “just” that. And even the expensive touristy places do usually have very good groups and good sound. With the exception of The Blue Note, which is expensive, touristy, has bad sound, and only has good groups maybe half the time. But if you go off the beaten path there are quite a few good places to see world class players for fairly cheaply.
>>131159803>>131162457Here’s a rundown of my favorites>Smalls It’s expensive if you buy a ticket in advance, especially on the weekends, but if you know how you can get a walk-in ticket. I go there fairly often and the staff knows me and most of the time they don’t charge me the cover. It’s typically very good bands, sometimes world class bands and a fun and intimate atmosphere, though most of the crowd is definitely tourists.>Village VanguardKind of expensive and definitely touristy but very worth it if it’s a group you want to see. Awesome sound and atmosphere. The bands play there all week so they are usually very prepared and professional. No chatter about setlists or what key to play something in in between tunes.>Cellar DogThis is basically a college bar and pool hall but with great live jazz. Cover is either $5 or $10 and you can stay and hear as many sets as you want. It’s a lot of the same players that play at Smalls, but in a more informal atmosphere. Only downside is that the bar sometimes gets very loud, since most people aren’t there to actually hear the music. >Bar BayeuxThis one is kind of way out in Brooklyn, so not a lot of tourists. There’s no cover, just a suggested tip for the band. But they have really good music there, sometimes a little out there and free but usually good. Great craft cocktails and a fun intimate atmosphere. It’s definitely a hangout for musicians who live in Brooklyn so there will usually be other great players in the audience just watching.
>>131162722Lesser favorites>Jazz GalleryMedium expensive, but a nice space. They usually have very good players, but it’s usually the players more indulgent, experimental projects so the music can be hit or miss. >MezzrowSister club to Smalls, across the avenue. It’s kind of expensive if you want to sit at a table near the front, and if you stand back at the bar it’s kind of hard to hear and see the music. It’s typically smaller groups, trios or duets. Lots of singers. Music is always good but very polite and kind of caters to tourists and people who don’t listen to a lot of jazz.>FictionNo cover, just a two drink minimum. This one is mostly up-and-coming players, guys you won’t have ever heard of, but usually they are pretty good and sometimes very good. Just kind of a pain to get to in Brooklyn.>OrnithologyCool place, just wayyyy out in Brooklyn. Annoying for me to get to so I never go. But I think it’s just a $20 cover and very good bands play there. I’d probably go often if it wasn’t so annoying to get there.>Close UpPretty new club. Tickets are like $20-30. Cool setting. The bands that play here definitely lean into freer and weirder music. Somehow this place takes nerdy guys playing freeish jazz and makes it cool. Kind of a pain for me to get to otherwise I’d go more.
>>131158231Very nice, anon. If i lived in Manhattan i'd be constantly going to every free improv performance, all those Relative Pitch label artists, i'd be seeing them all perform.
>>131162930Others>Dizzy’sHonestly a very cool atmosphere and they usually have pretty good bands but stupidly expensive. Very touristy. It’s worth going to once. Or if you’re visiting, it’s worth splurging to see a good band. >SmokePretty good bands usually. Sometimes a little hard bop nostalgia-y but usually good nonetheless. Just very expensive and kind of touristy. Or not even touristy necessarily, but the crowd is often rich fancy black Harlem society types. >The DjangoGood bands typically, just expensive and touristy. Kind of fun “Paris underground” theme to the club. Worth going to once or to see a band you don’t want to miss.>ZincBands are hit or miss. Occasionally some really good groups though and kind of a cool room. It’s just usually more than I want to pay. >Blue NoteI tell people not to go here. It’s a lot of neo-soul hip hop jazz fusion type bands typically. Occasionally they have some really good bands but even then, the sound is bad and the room is bad, you will be packed in like a sardine. It’s very expensive and extremely touristy. I only go if someone from out of town really wants to and I can’t dissuade them. There are some new ones that have opened in the past couple years that I haven’t been to yet. RIP the 55 Bar which was one of the best in the city, but shut down.
>>131159803>I see a lot of people online saying New York jazz scene is just a bunch of expensive clubs aimed at tourists that will waste hundreds for the experienceThey sound like tourists. Skill issue, get good, etc..
>>131163048I’m not huge into free improv. Sometimes free and out playing can be really cool but I like it best when it’s in the context of some composed structures.
>>131159901my first thought too
>>131147578Just ONE thread without polshit. That's all I ask.
It's nice having an actual jazz thread with people who actually like jazz for a change.
Been listening to Keith Jarrett for years but just now getting into the trio stuff with Peacock and DeJohnette, feel like I’ll be listening to a good amount of this the next few weeks.Wondering if anyone has good recs for records or groups that sound similar to what Miles Davis was doing in the Filles de Kilimanjaro/ Silent Way sessions? Really love that loose area between the post-bop and full-on electric funk.
why have i only just found out that chet baker and bill evans made a record together???? damn
>>131165150Huh, yeah maybe the progressive trend of projecting racial oppression hierarchies onto every facet of society was a bad thing
>>131167965>victimhood is le good when i do it, heh
>>131166287This
>>131170060>racial discrimination is good when I do it
>>131063465https://youtu.be/clRnOtG8Ac4
https://youtu.be/P-pGG02A0oY
>>131170100How is this one? I always pass it over because it look so generic. Deep down inside I always know this is a mistake because its Trane. If this was John Klemmer or something it would be a hard pass.I need someone to sell me on it.
>>131170235>>racial discrimination is good when I do it
>>131174770go back to the steely dan threads
>131175110Why we can't have nice threads.From now on, can we all agree when the thread is going well no one comments on it?
This is Sipiagin’s best album
>>131175991i believe it
>>131112937I would sat Kenny Burrell is more important than Ellis or Farlow
>>131174117Nice, appreciated
>>131063465Been listening to this comfy album. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmUAmviHI-YSoon to check out his other works.
>>131125152this goes double for modern fusion
>>131087391Contours is massively underrated. So good
>>131162722>>131163252Interesting notes. I have been to Smalls, The Village Vanguard and Blue Note. I could see Smalls being really cool if it was a group you really liked but I didn’t like the players all that much on the night I went. The Vanguard is indeed pretty awesome despite the hype. I didn’t think the blue note was all the bad but it wasn’t amazing. I don’t remember it being all that expensive but I was visiting New York and so I guess I was just expecting to spend a lot to see live jazz anyway.
Spinning this on vinyl this afternoon
>>131185145it gud?
>>131185262Some very good moments. But I think his second trio record is better
Anything with Gary Versace on piano is worth listening to
>>131187299which one's that
this fucks
>>131191115the list goes on...
>>131191115do you seriously think people recommending posi-tone and criss cross records haven't heard at least ninety percent of these albums you annoying bug
>>131191115i hate how it uses a fake cover of art pepper meets the rhythm section
https://youtu.be/6w5Pu1bBHno
>>131193472I didn't like that either, that man deserves something much more kino.
>>131194264FATHEAD Ray Charles presents David Newman FATHEAD …….ok
>>131194354neurolinguist got a fat head
>>131143393One of Henderson's best imo, opening track is killer>>131116920Yes, I have an incurable vinyl fetish>>131091162I gotta listen to this today. By coincidence, I'm listening to this beast of an album
>>131195944>picrelthat album is kino, easily one of brubeck's best. all 4 of them are firing on all cylinders.
>>131090414People in Sorrow is literally the pinnacle of creative music you pleb. one of the greatest recordings of the 20th century
>>131089814Listening to this now, I think this is what I needed to push myself into listening to free jazz. Thx>>131090414I am intrigued by this Coltrane pick, never heard of it before, noted>>131196260My first impression has been "this is really really good" and I don't listen to free jazz, more of a hard-bop-to-fusion guy
Herbie Hancock is one of the most legendary and respected jazz pianists of all time and somehow still underrated. The stuff he was playing 60 years ago still sounds surprising and hip today. His lines are ridiculously influential, not only just for all pianists who came after him but for so many of the great horn players too. I think Mike Brecker got almost as much of his sound from Herbie as he did from Coltrane, Shorter, and Henderson.
>>131197989people who underrate herbie probably didnt listen to the records
>>131197989>>131199010I think he's underrated in that for a long time his late 70s through late 80s output was generally disliked. And I'm not going to debate the merits of those albums but I do think this "slump" gave the impression he fell off which colors people's opinion of him.
>>131063465Speaking of Now (2002)
>>131199010fusion tourists?
Bump
>>131189290wtf is this cover art meant to convey lol
>>131202077>but I do think this "slump" gave the impression he fell offBecause he did fall off. He had a streak of great albums in the 60s and 70s, and then when the 80s came around he slowly but surely ran out of ideas and started making bad music.That applies to almost every artist, jazz or otherwise.I'm one of the biggest Herbie fans out there but if you think I'm gonna defend shit like Lite Me Up or Perfect Machine you're out of your mind. Outside of Mr. Hands his 80s period was a trainwreck.
>>131206698Three, trombones.
>>131207010they dont look too happy to be playing trombone
>>131206784Not really defending is 80s output but Rockit was a major hit and was very influential.And for many years Mr Hands was hated. Or at least it was super common to find I used record bins. Everything else would sell instantly while Hands languished. But now its beloved. Maybe someday some wiseass on 4chan will sincerely say Monster or Magic Windows is underrated.
I know people here would kill me but,who are the best guitar players of the 21st century and best jazz guitar songs?
>>131208188Peter BernsteinKurt RosenwinkelAdam RogersJonathan KreisbergLage LundJulian LageGilad HekselmanPat Metheny honestly even though he’s been around since the 70s
>>131208188seconding adam rogers and adding mary halvorson and jakob bro
>>131208987Fair. I thought about including Bro but honestly his stuff has never grabbed me. Forgot about Halvorson but she should be included. Miles Okazaki too probably.Rogers is kinda underrated
>>131208188John McLaughlin has been the GOAT since the 70s
>>131208188Julian Lage.
>>131207851>And for many years Mr Hands was hated.It was? When? I've never seen a negative review for it once. >Maybe someday some wiseass on 4chan will sincerely say Monster or Magic Windows is underratedOh dear god I hope not.
