Telemann Editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkFTo3ksDMkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUSJBIJjq2Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv0kTpY9fZAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0dmJd50BtcThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenpreviously, on /classical/: >>131780019
Wagner sucks cock.
Das Rheingold > Götterdämmerung > Die Walküre > Siegfried
>>131804223If you had to select four of Wagner's eleven overtures and assemble them into a symphony (transposing is allowed) what would your pick be?
>AI slop OPCan we not
>>131804243Well im skipping to Das Rheingold
>>131804299feel free to fuck off whenever you want.
>>131804269Siegfried>Götterdämmerung>Walküre>Rheingold
>>131804408You have zero respect for art and music if you use AI unironically for slop shit like this.
Wagner peaks in the first couple minutes of the Rheingold
>>131804270Lohengrin overture as the introduction and then Meistersinger as the first movementSiegfried IdyllDer Fliegende HollanderThe lost concert arrangement of Lohengrin act 3 overture and the bridal march which now only exists in Liszt's piano reduction.
>>131804421>>131804299No one cares. Go virtue signal over at bluesky.
>>131804608I care. Not even the kpop or metal generals are crass enough to post AI shit. /classical/ has always been a haven of safeguarding high art.
>>131804636how do you know OP is not an academic having a giggle online? you really need to stop taking everything so seriously.
>>1318042701. Flying Dutchman (sonata-allegro)2. Parsifal (adagio)3. Rienzi (scherzo)4. Tannhauser (rondo finale)
Simply cannot decide which is better faure or wagner.
>>131797499>thinks "class struggle" has no correlation with leftismRetard alert!
chopin sucks so fucking bad
>M'zurka
>>131804636You care, so you should go over and virtue signal elsewhere, correct.>Not even the kpop or metal generalsnot sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?
>>131804850>>131804857>>131804862thank you wagnersister
Liszt > Chopin
>>131805089Me when I haven't listened to Chopin besides one nocturne.
>>131805189Liszt wrote for orchestra so I like him better
Brahms is the worst composer who ever lived
>>131805471does 4chan not allow exclamation marks in the name section?
>>131805457yes, Liszt was more well-rounded but in the genre of melancholy piano miniatures Chopin is clearly the best.
>>131805532>piano miniaturesI don't recall Liszt's (or anyone else's for that matter) piano sonatas as monumental as Chopin's 3rd. I personally wouldn't call his ballades miniatures either. And let's not forget the first class cello sonata by Lis- oh, I mean Chopin.
>>131805089wrong>>131805471also wrong
I am transgender call me beethovia :3
>>131806478:^)If you haven’t listened to van Beinum’s 1946 Brahms symphony cycle, you’re missing out!
What's the appeal of Sibelius' violin concerto? I get it, it has some nice tunes here and there, but is that it? People worship it, but it has no effect on me
>>131806676The Sibelius violin concerto emits a stark, cold, harsh beauty. You must have a rather more fiery, mediterranean temper if all you can make out from it are the melodies.
>>131806152>I don't recall Liszt's (or anyone else's for that matter) piano sonatas as monumental as Chopin's 3rd
>being filtered by Schubert 8
Buchbinder's Beethoven sonatas: run-of-the-mill.
Schubert (not 8 (can't risk getting filtered)).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPJ0co08DJk
Wow this is great.
>>131804411>>131804269Götterdämmerung > Siegfried > Rheingold > Walküre
>>1318042701. Flying Dutchman2. Siegfried Idyll3. Meistersinger4. Parsifal5. Tannhauser
>>131804223I know nothing about classical music but I love the sound of the music from 3:45 to 5:45 in this documentary, how do I find pieces that sound similar?https://youtu.be/euscHDHEmJM?si=mE3UKjknNuC8cfke
Name a Classical composer that isn’t Mozart Haydn or Beethoven. I’m waiting…
Alexander Scriabin - The Complete Piano Sonatas
>>131808616Schubert.
>>131808594watch pirate movies or play pirate video games
>schubert only needed two (2) movements to make the best symphony
>>131808616CPE BachPaisielloMartin-KrausBoccheriniCherubini
>>131804603>>131804750>>131808523Why the fuck is no one picking the best overture (prelude, w/e) - Tristan und Isolde? And two of you skipped Lohengrin. What in the world makes you pick Parsifal over those?
>>131808616Anton Eberl
>>131808857tristan und isolde's overture is boring and only remembered for the Tristan Chord
Where can I read Mahler's original program notes?
>>131808914https://www.gustav-mahler.org/archiv/suche?tx_kesearch_pi1%5Bfilter_4%5D=syscat11352&tx_kesearch_pi1%5Bfilter_5%5D=&tx_kesearch_pi1%5Bfilter_6_410%5D=extbasetype10&tx_kesearch_pi1%5Bfilter_7_end%5D=1920&tx_kesearch_pi1%5Bfilter_7_start%5D=1860&tx_kesearch_pi1%5Bfilter_8%5D=&tx_kesearch_pi1%5Bfilter_9%5D=&tx_kesearch_pi1%5Bfilter_10%5D=&cHash=e7e1116f23ab47588a756c7353685ed0Took me two minutes of googling. You're welcome.
>>131808616Ferdinand Ries!
>>131807618No I love Schubert 8, its just the slow movement is unremarkable
>>131808901The Tristan Chord is such a meme. Its just a suspended French 6th. The real genius of the opera is all stuff in the last act.
>sleep with girl>she spends the night>I wake up first>I go my usual routine of coffee, classical music, and checking the news>she wakes up>"hey :)" "hey :)">her: what's this music?>me: classical music. beethoven>her: oh... would you mind turning it off? it's giving me a headache>mfw
>>131810201who the hell listens to Große Fuge first thing in the morning
>>131810216to parallel the Gross Fuck from the night before>*laughtrack*
>>131808914Here I'll catch you up to speed>Birds lots of birds and beer. What if this nursery rhyme was actually le dark?>Actually I AM a Christian guys, see!>I'll just casually make the longest symphony ever and nobody will remember any melodies from it>proto-neoclassical and tragedy >more obnoxious klezmer and the most beautiful slow movement in the canon>NOOO! WE'RE NOT GOING TO PRINT WITHOUT THE HECKIN' BOX! IT NEEDS TO SOUND UNREMARKABLE LIKE THE IMAGINARY HERO WHO IS ALSO ME!!!!!>Like symphony 5 but with more cowbell>I really fall off here>and here>we are so Ba-Ack!
>>131810225lel
>Rach, Screebs, Chop's Who had the best prelude set?
>>131810429Showpan obviously, but the other two made valiant attempts.
>>131810442Trve
>>131810542>THERE'S THE MAIN THEME AGAIN!!!!!>its three different notes that are completely different from the so-called theme also comprised of three notes in a different rhythm Why are you people like this?
>>131810806who are you quoting?
>>131810832Basically any analysis of Bach, Brahms or Schoenberg or any other number of specific works by various other composers>OH MY SOIENCE IS THAT THE HECKIN MELODY UPSIDE DOWN!
>>131810854you're angry for no reason
>>131810963Welcome to 4chan I guess
>>131808901Wrong. It's the best overture. Sexiest and the most beautiful.
>>1318102879th is the GOAT and 3rd is very memorable. Fuck off.
>>131811171I'm just taking the piss. I was just listening to Mahler 6 in the car and I thought about my response for the 6th, then I used anon's post as a jumping off point but it seemed odd to not include all the symphonies, so I cobbled together the rest laboring under the hubris that I understood enough about each symphony to make memes for each one.
>>131810806Bach is pretty comprehensible for the most part. Brahms was an idiot and his "developing variations" stink. Schoenberg is not music.
>>131811443Bach is incomprehensible because, to be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Bach
>>131811144weird way to describe music but we're on a website for perverts so go off I suppose
>>131811443tonalbaby opinion
>>131811487Tonality = music
>>131811542so true, sister!
>>131811549Bagatelle sans tonalitie is in Bb minor. Simple as
>>131811602so true, sister!
>>131804299Would she enjoy Brahms or Wagner more?
>>131811668Give me an atonal piece that sounds coherent and I'll identify a tonic for it
>>131811715https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nKa_9CMg4OU
who is this "marche" and why is he a "slave"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgOCUUQ75HE
>>131811815You think this is a joke but slavs were literally named after slavery. A fact intersectional virtue signalers love to ignore.
>>131811832so Dvorak really composed the Slave Dances?
>>131811832Oh sorry other way around. Had an early morning
>>131811845No that was the 9th Symphony
>Stravinsky, Schoenberg and Rachmaninoff all lived within walking distance from eachother>they never met because of their disparate aesthetic agendaOh well, at least we have the Genesis Suite
Is the only solution to the burgeoning antisemitism that is rampant in the world right now the promotion of Schoenberg's music?
truly listening to classical music for the first time here, brings a tear to me eye, it calms my body, other music is sinister
>>131811999Based. I've been listening for 15 years and the only music that has made me cry is Spiegel im Spiegel and that was while I was having a spiritual breakdown thoughbeit.
>>131804299We are a pro-AI general. Luddites need not apply
>>131811999welcome and enjoy your journey! The first time I listened to classical it felt like a whole new world was opened to me.
>>131812107Saar do not redeem
>>131811974https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d1Dw8f34DQ
>>131808616Piotr Zak.
feels like a dvorak symphonies day. maybe 4-9 and the piano concertohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41IHNMPG_Ss&list=OLAK5uy_kSK2NFPnxuKtS48iBHnBiar7DGNJkt-wM&index=21https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO-Rg__9_yc&list=OLAK5uy_kSK2NFPnxuKtS48iBHnBiar7DGNJkt-wM&index=19
>>131812791Do you agree with Hurwitz's statement that Dvorak is criminally underrated compared to the other great composers?
>>131812817I think the lack of any quality piano pieces or chamber sonatas is a severe strike when you're comparing at that level. But yeah I'd probably put him alongside Schumann and Tchaikovsky. Not with Beethoven and Brahms though.
>>131812817Dvorak is like the lovechild of Brahms and Tchaikovsky. Not an especially important composer except if you dislike either of those in a Hegelian sense.
if you don't like Dvorak's Cello Concerto we can't ever be friends or sleep together, sorry!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbWwD9r9L5k&list=OLAK5uy_kSK2NFPnxuKtS48iBHnBiar7DGNJkt-wM&index=5>>131812845What about in a Heideggerian sense?
>>131812851yeah, pretentious way of expressing what I am talking about but I just mean if you think Brahms is too tightly-winded and academic or else Tchaikovsky is too sentimental and excessive. Dvorak is like a nice middle-ground for me personally.
>>131812851Hide-nigger. lmao, gottem.
>>131812879>The most controversial passages of the black notebooks are a series of reflections from the start of the second world war to 1941. While distancing himself from the racial theories pursued by Nazi intellectuals, Heidegger argues that Weltjudentum ("world Judaism") is one of the main drivers of western modernity, which he viewed critically.>"World Judaism", Heidegger writes in the notebooks, "is ungraspable everywhere and doesn't need to get involved in military action while continuing to unfurl its influence, whereas we are left to sacrifice the best blood of the best of our people".>In another passage, the philosopher writes that the Jewish people, with their "talent for calculation", were so vehemently opposed to the Nazi's racial theories because "they themselves have lived according to the race principle for longest".>In one passage, Heidegger argues that like fascism and "world judaism", Soviet communism and British parliamentarianism should be seen as part of the imperious dehumanising drive of western modernity: "The bourgeois-Christian form of English 'bolshevism' is the most dangerous. Without its destruction, the modern era will remain intact.">In an almost playful dig at English culture, he writes: "What, other than engineering and metaphysically paving the way for socialism, other than commonplace thinking and tastelessness, has England contributed in terms of 'culture'?"
>>131812575this is like Bach on his worst day
>>131812906not sure what this has to do with music.perhaps try >>>/trash/ ?
>>131811974went down to the local neonazi fast food joint and heard the cashier whistling drei klavierstücke, op. 11
has my nigga beethoven dropped any new bangers lately
>>131812925let's see your invertible mirror canon then. I'm sure we will all be in awe of your genius and craftsmanship.
>>131812939he's more of a decomposer these days.
>>131812947>reddit-tier tu quoque >not accepting it as a compliment like a Chad
>>131812961
>>131812974I accept your concession.
yt-dlp command to download entire albums with metadata, cover and track numbers. audio-format can be flac or check whatever is available.yt-dlp -x --audio-format mp3 --embed-metadata --parse-metadata "playlist_index:%(track_number)s" --embed-thumbnail --extractor-args "youtube:player-client=default,-tv_simply" --remote-components ejs:npm "playlist_url"
>>131812992you work at a concession pal
>>131812947>Hitler was a bad dude>UMM LET'S SEE YOUR PANEUROPEAN EMPIRE
>>131813063>me trying to explain my latest musescore "composition" to my Dad who just walked in on me Compooosing
