Disasters never have one root cause and neither did the destruction of cycling. But I know some important milestones in the decline and fall:1. COVID 19. Enough said.2. Full suspension mountain bikes. Enough said.3. Reddit. Enough said.4. Twitter. Enough said.5. British "people". Enough said.6. The d-tch. Enough said.7. The state of Utah. Enough said.8. Zwift, Peloton, "Spin Class", and other cancer. Enough said.What were some other key moments?
>>1962645>What were some other key moments?this thread
>>1962645>more than a hundred years old hobby>rich history with great influence across the globe>not going anywhere as long as humans have legs and steelyet somehow you fucking snowflake can announce it destroyed due to your imaginary reasons no one asked about
>>1962645Steel bikes being premiumThru-axle27.5"Touring bikes"
>>1962645Strava didn't help with their interesting decisions in the past 2 years.
>>1962680I just use komoot, haven't even tried strava. Komoot is kind of shit but good enough, what about strava?
What a garbage thread.
>>1962679>Steel bikes being premiumThis isn't a conspiracyAluminium bikes are lighter for the money and so suit the entry level market better and so far many more of them are produced and so the price is cheaper, and for many other valid reasons.
>>1962681I dunno my interest in that stuff has fallen off hard I don't even track my rides or runs anymore because I've lost the competitive part of me due to depression.
>>1962687Nope aluminum bikes are the standard slop now because logistics are cheaper with lighter frames
>>1962645>What destroyed cyclingWhat question is that? I ride my MTB's on trails for the last 10 years. Nothing was destroyed. Bikes got better tho.My roadbike is faster and lighter. Saddle is comfier, di2 is a dream.Commuting and shopping didnt change a bit.Overall, cycling improved massively in my opinion. Its much more fun. Bikes are more capable, better geo for bombing hills/trails, suspensions are crazy good now.
>>1962645>6. The d-tch. Enough saidrent. free.
>>196264526" wheelsShouldn't have gone away from 700c
>>1962645>cycling is ruined because there are NIMBYs on twitter and people who dare ty to get fit with home bikesanother extraordinarily flamboyant opening poster
Shitty bait thread on a cycling board
>>1962811Delivery costs for stuff that size is done on volume not weight
>>1962672fpbp
>>1962645>destruction of cyclingyou get on the bike and ride, who gives a fuck about 'bicycle culture'? do you also lament the destruction of hiking every time you go for a walk?
>>1962687And every other material is marginally better.
>What destroyed cyclingCyclists. Imagine letting riding a bike as a hobby become your whole personality to the point where call yourself a "cyclist". If you heard someone say "Yeah, I'm a driver." and driving cars wasn't their job, you'd think they were a lunatic.
>>1962645>China 1980
>>1963699>China 2020What went wrong?Why did cycling fail?
>>1963701
>>1962687Don't forget, it's easy to hydroform aluminium into more aerodynamic or more marketable shapes (you're not limited to cylindrical or oval tubes), and it's got a very low melting point compared to steel and therefore takes less energy to produce.It's not a bad material all things considered.
>>1963742Yeah but what if I have to ride my gaspipe shitter on the surface of venus? Buyfag freds, the china menace, and dentist racers BTFO! I could totally be a pro I just don't apply myself because this isn't a race.
>>1963773Right, I forgot about tour du Soleil.
>>1962645Cringe sociopath image
>>1962645How is cycling "destroyed"?Who's stopping you from going for a ride RIGHT NOW?
>>1962645Pretty good image but I think people who are shitty and elitist about bikes are stupid morons. If you aren't a bike mechanic or an expert, don't fucking chime in on technical discussions. If you are an obsessive bike nerd, don't be an asshole to the people that aren't. Conflict solved.
>>1963699>when China was poor and still commie>>1963701>After China became rich and capitalistCycling is always a major fail, get a car or be forever a peasant.
>>1965577It's a shit picture, muh trading card games are a laughable """hobby""" and gatekeeping such faggotry is beyond pathetic.And hobbies that are respectable enough like cycling benefit from not being tryhard sausage fests. Imagine complaining about having women in your hobbies, as if they were something that scared you.
>>1965620Sex segregated hobbies are bad?
>>1965625Not all hobbies are sports. Segregate them when they become competitions, but don't gatekeep them when it's you and your shitty bingbingwahoos and other niggersoy fuckery.Also your pic is of women fearing men, which is absolutely normal because women are weak and dumb.
>>1965620I am afraid of women and I do NOT want them shitting up my hobbies.
>>1965620I am scared of women and I know the power they have(the law+society).
>>1965643>>1965631>i am a huge fucking faggotyeah we can tell
>>1962645Cycling is destroyed? Huh I didn't notice
>>1962645>What destroyed cycling?Autistics who made it a faggy gear-n-socialmedia subculture rather than just the simple act of "riding a bicycle" AKA you. BAWWWWW go ride a bike retard.
>>1962645You got it kinda wrong, OP.There are several reasons why the Bicycle Industry is seeing collapse. And it's not due to cycling becoming mainstream.1. Pandemic:Lockdowns & "Shelter-In-Place" orders made exceptions for "outdoor exercise", and a lot of people who typically only went to the gym for a workout thought about what they could do outdoors that's exercise. For anyone not already running, cycling became the big one.Normies bought bicycles en masse creating massive profits for bike manufacturers.Except normies don't actually like cycling - they did 2-3 rides, didn't like how fit they needed to be to go up hills and didn't like the weather.The result? A saturated used market for high-end bicycles.2. Britain:Look at the cycling brands collapsing and tell me where they're from. Islabikes, Wiggle CRC, GCN+, British Cycling, Evans Cycles - yes, they're all British.Brexit has resulted in economic shrinkage, as various weirdos too scared of White Slavic Immigrants, now have political leaders who are all descended from former colonies. Immigration is now at record highs in the UK, and they're not Slavic people anymore.Through a mix of Brexit fucking up the entire exporting of good, and also the Tories waging culture war on cycling, claiming that being a cyclist is "woke", and that being a cager is "freedom", it's had this impact.3. Corporate Greed:After the record profits from selling record numbers of high-end bicycles to middle managers with cabin fever, the bicycle industry was convinced that there's now a massive market out there for high-end bicycles.Year after year, Specialized, Trek, Giant, Canyon, Pinarello, and Scott all made active decisions to shit on the entry level bikes, and make more and more $/€/£10k bicycles with extra special features that will save you 5 watts!Of course, the used market is saturated with these high-end bikes going cheap, and no one buys a brand new bicycle every year.
>>1962645No offense but cyclists are some of the biggest elitist fags in any sporting community. It’s clear someone decides what is cool or not, and then the lemmings all fall in line. Examples:- oh lol you have a dork disk - lol aero bars ? You mean go fast bars?- that’s a Cervelo? You must be a dentist - Fred Fred Fred - that’s not the right bike for this event. God forbid you own just 1 or 2 bikesThe grand irony is there is usually some sort of intimidation factor at play with gatekeeping. But anyone who takes cycling seriously looks like the just biked out of auschwitz. So as someone who lifts it bring a me great pleasure knowing I could snap all of these assholes like a twig at any given moment
>>1966487>brexit was caused by racists!What? That makes no sense. It would only make sense to a pro-Commonwealth anti-Polish racist and they are pretty much non-existent.>no it was caused by racists but they thought they were being racist and they really were being progressive!
By what metric has cycling been "destroyed"? How is cycling worse now than it was in 2010, 2000, 1990, or 1980? I don't think OP put much thought into this thread. He's also probably a fag.
>>1966487>White>SlavicPick one and only you fucking faggot.
>>1966531>It would only make senseMaking sense had nothing to do with it, except that people who wanted to avoid having to declare their money to central tax authorities were very very in favour of it. And those people own a lot of media outlets.Makes you think.
>>1966670>every major financial institution and the sitting government of the day heavily anti-Brexit >but the REAL powerbrokers didn’t want itFuck off, you’re literally the left wing version of Alex Jones listeners and you make us look bad. It’s not a “good vs evil” star wars plot.
>>1966670high iq post right here
for whatever reason, cycling attracts narcissistic do-gooders that think they're "making a difference" by behaving like an asshole in public and not accounting for the massive difference between a dude on a bike going 10 mph and a one ton car that can rip to 120 mph at a moment's noticethey're not comparable forms of technology and should not mix. if you go full bike, you really need the separate space for them or you're fighting a losing battle (while have to watch you blow past stop signs and red lights in your mesh suit). i'm supposed to feel "bad" about cyclists when they get hit by cars or killed, but i remember that it's usually an idiot that was so poor they couldn't afford a cheap car and made that inferiority complex their personality.
>>1970460Thank you for not lying and pretending to support cycling. Usually this argument is wrapped in a disingenuous concern troll shitpost about how in amsterdam blah blah blah. This one speaks honestly. John Forester did nothing wrong.
>>1962811as a lazy entry-level cyclist I am pretty happy with a light frame also. It's almost the only component I haven't worn out and needed replaced in the last 10 years, not sure where steel would be an improvement.
>>1970461>in amsterdam blah blah blahrent fucking free
>>1970461>John ForesterThe guy you're replying to is arguing for the literall opposite.Cope and seethe.
>>1970639Steel can give a different ride feel. Everyone groups aluminum as shit, but 2 decades ago it was the shit. If you care, ride more bikes and see if you can notice differences, then you will hone in on what you like.Or just ride your current one.
>>1962645Bait image. >1.A point but things are mostly back to normal again>2.Don't ride one then>3 Don't listen to anyone on there>4Don't listen to anyone on there >5Bait.>6Bait.>7 Bait.>8Not real cyclists, ignore them. Cycling isn't destroyed, it's fine.
>>1962812this guy destroyed cycling unironically
>>1970460I fucking hate old fucks using main road to cycle. Like what the fuck are they doing in +40mph lane with hills. I just take local roads to avoid these retards
>>1970460I bike because it feels good and because I'm better and more fit than youI will take the lane when I feel like I need to. Eat my ass.
>>1962645>COVID 19plandemic was peak cycle boom, especially if you were lockdown rebel larping. We had like weekly cycle group rides on empty streets. Now that my city is pretty much back to prepandemic business as usual and everything has been open for like 1-2 years now, everyone is going back to their old ways and not cycling as much as they did during covid
>>1963684because driving is the standard, my friend who only uses a motorbike considers himself a biker. So do many who have a motorbike and only ride it in summer as a hobby. Besides that there are tons of people who identify with car brands, state what car they have on social media even if its completely unrelated and take selfies with cars. They dont call themselves drivers, they call themselves shit like mercedes owner or bmw drivers and sometimes even join local clubs.
>>1971360christian bale?
>>1962645Cycling became a lot more popular in my area when Covid happened, councils even started making new pop up bike lanes, some of which are still around.I don't even know why you think it's 'destroyed', you come across as some Lycra larper who's annoyed that muh sanctity of cycling as an elitist hobby is being degraded by more people picking it up casually.
>>1962645Cyclists themselves destroyed it.
>>1978392Everyone wishes they could ride like this.
>>1979825i don't, this is retarded monkey caprioles
>>1979825https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0itOCgJtNVU
>>1965619people are still peasants there will always be peasants even if everyone owns helicopters
>>1962672Enough said.
>>1962645Cycling when I started in 2008>New bikes were cheap >Used market was small. Word of mouth/car boot sale>Seen as a hobby>0 bike lanes>30mph roads in every city>Cars were smaller and less scary though>Nowhere to lock up bikeCycling now>New bikes are astronomical>Who cares because there are top-tier used bikes selling for pennies >They're easy to find with the internet>So many because casuals bought new and rode once during covid>bike theft is basically an industry now, further reducing used prices>"Car replacement" is in fashion now>lots of cargo frames, baskets, rack types available>No-one looks at your weird for biking to work any more>Dedicated bike parking everywhere>20 roads and more bike lanes>Filled with idiots who have no clue how to cycle and SUVs
>>1980239urban problemshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lHNkUjR9nM
>>1981635>toob is part of the urbanism NJB YIMBY crowdwell that's a shame. oh well. guess I'll ignore all her videos from now on
>>1981635this crossover episode makes want to kill myself. PT is suicide fuel
>>1966530Why do you watch youtube?
>>1970639Steel is for homos needing "a certain feel" to get from A to B.Modern aluminium frames are just as rigid/stiff unless you weigh 350 pounds
>>1966530t. bought a cerevelo with aero bars and was told off by the cool group ride guys
Real answer is CEN.Steel bikes are pointless now because everything is built like an anvil and doesn't take advantage of the material's properties.
>>1983725Gotta follow the UCI rules. Don't you see the rules are there because of our safety?
>>1962645cycling hasn't been destroyed. you can go outside RIGHT NOW and ride a bicycle. anything beyond that is faff and nonsense.
>>1981643>>1981639lol how is his voice is it watchable
>>1981709it's not for stiffness, it's for flex
Just checked my local stores, new bikes are back to pre-pandemic prices. They're actually cheaper than they have ever been when you factor in our money dropped in value by 50%.
>>1984666yeah I picked up an sworks aethos campy ltd for $12.5k yesterday
>>1979902I do
>>1984666I checked mine and they have nothing but ebikes in stock. If you order you have to pay MSRP which is usually like 500 euros more than last year.
>>1962645CarsAny other answer is just inhaling copium
>>1986668you don't actually have a bike do you
>>1970460Preach. It works both ways. Cyclists certainly don’t behave as though they are the most vulnerable road users. It’s a shame. Bikes should be fun and cheap transport. Let’s all maintain order and follow the rules of the road so there are fewer accidents and everyone gets to go home safely whether they’re on two wheels or four. Known tons of cool cyclists who ride responsibly. I like to ride in quiet areas for leisure on a nice day. Unfortunately a small group of entitled activists have utterly ruined the reputation of a genuinely great idea
>>1962645>muh safe space
>>1990025> cyclists who ride responsibly.You mean who stay off roads unless there is a 0% chance any motorist will ever see them and be able to get upset. That is what you people mean by this.
>>1979825Kind of, shows amazing control and balance but at the same time that's really fucking obnoxious and I wouldn't ever endanger myself for something as stupid as random retards online thinking I'm cool.
