That looks like the apartment complex of this one finance bro who had a party I went to, I wanna say in weehawken? He had an audi. His gf was living there too. I forgot what she drove. Anyway it wasn't a very #walkable area, so of course, they had automobiles. If I recall correctly my friend and I took a cab to get there. Yes, a real cab, like in the movies. That was before uber. Nice view of the city but wew what a way to live. Regardless of all that, I think we can all agree that the best thing for humanity is to launch all YIMBYs into the sun.

Ah but no, it is the "Foundry Yards" in yeehaw dixie land, here is the press release:

>The Cushman & Wakefield Sunbelt Multifamily Advisory Group is excited to present the exclusive listing of Foundry Yards, a 268-unit luxury apartment community with 20K SF of future, adjacent office and retail space located in Birmingham, Alabama, which has the nation’s second lowest unemployment rate according to the Wall Street Journal and 50K+ jobs added since April 2020. Foundry Yards is anchored by Birmingham’s expansive healthcare industry with the University of Alabama at Birmingham ranking the #1 Best Large Employer in America by Forbes with a total of 23K jobs and an employment impact of 64K within a 10-minute walk of the property. Also, the asset is primed to benefit from the city’s emergence as a technology hub, ranked as #2 up and coming tech hot spots according to MarketWatch. Centralized in the newly revitalized Parkside District, Foundry Yards is positioned adjacent to multiple breweries, acclaimed restaurants, the 19-acre Railroad Park, and Regions Field which is home to the Birmingham Barons, an AA-affiliate of the Chicago White Sox. In 2021, Foundry Yards has experienced incredible leasing velocity with 45 move-ins per month and 14% effective rent growth since May.

do I get a commission for this?

>>1991671
Sounds walkable as fuck desu

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>>1991681
Hmm yes. Surrounded by broken sidewalkless streets, freeway overpasses, fenced off switchyards, ginormous parking lots, and patrolled 24/7 by Bull Connor's boys, who will subpoena your icloud account if they suspect a female member of your household of committing unlawful menstrual cycle irregularities. I think I'll sell my place in the city and move right on down to bombingham!

Is this the press release thread? How do I get on that gravy train?

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>>1991683
Sunbelt multifamily developers are always hiring for these sorts of gigs, just spam copy/pasted press releases and uncritical regurgitations of corporate talking points and probably one of them will see your hard work and offer you a job. I've been doing it for years and I just know the housing will trickle down any day now

>>1991684
But you’re the only guy who spams press releases

Then you complain about press releases as a samefag who thinks no one can tell.

Does this belong in /upg/?
This is Stobnica Castle, a modern building imitating a castle being built in a forest near Poznań. Controversy of having it built on the border of a Natura 2000 reserve, opinion?

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>>1991737

>>1991738
What’s it being used for?

Ban cars from the roads between the hours of 7:00am and 19:00pm weekdays and all day every sunday.
ban all delivery vehicles vans, trucks etc between 08:00 - 10:00 and 16:00 and 18:00 weekdays and all day sat and sun.

Only bikes and buses are allowed on all roads at all times on all days.

All life is instantly improved.

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Texas lawmakers are trying to take zoning power away from the city of Dallas
https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2024/04/texas-lawmakers-look-to-take-zoning-changes-out-of-dallas-hands/

>>1991833
Neato, hopefully they force mega-churches down everyone's throats and zone all the sinful "hospitals" and "libraries" out of existence like god intended

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Are there any great cities that are overwhelmingly car dependent?

>>1991737
>Controversy of having it built on the border of a Natura 2000 reserve, opinion?
So it's not in the nature reserve? It's fine.

>>1992294
Yeah. Most of them. Really activates those almonds doesn't it.

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>>1992313
Name a city

>>1992294
Not really, unless you think LA is a great city.
Car-dependence kills cities.

>>1992534
>Car-dependence kills cities.
Good

>>1992534
What would you call a "not car dependent city"? Fire Island? I like drinking overpriced cocktails at the Blue Whale too but I'd hardly call that a "great city"

>>1992534
"Car-dependent city" is a buzzword. You can make do in Houston with public transit and ride-sharing, and there are numerous apartments (even in the non-downtown areas) where walking to restaurants and shops can be done in 20 minutes or less. In NO city would your life not be significantly improved with a car.

>>1991682
>90’s escort gt
Chad spotted

>>1992395
OKC has done this amazing thing where their downtown is this haven of mixed transit, bike lanes, busses, good traffic management, etc
Except it just ends right outside the city center. You go from skyscrapers and bike lanes to sharing a narrow sidewalk or the side of the road, instantly.
If you live even just outside of the city center, getting there by anything other than a car is a pain in the ass.

>>1992557
Who cares

>>1992569
You literally asked

>>1992570
Nope

>>1992550
>You can make do in Houston with public transit and ride-sharing
More ride-sharing than anything else, and ride-sharing isn't public transit. You're still dependent on cars, you're just hiring one for every trip you make.

>>1992557
Austin felt the same when I was there for the eclipse.

>>1992584
You're complaining about places you don't live in

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>>1992584
This is part of Houston with apartments (in orange) and retail/restaurants (blue). You can very easily walk to these places and back.

>>1992651
This does not look like a great city. Do you think it does? If so how?

>>1992584
>You're still dependent on cars, you're just hiring one for every trip you make.
Where's the problem? I thought your issue with cars was you're too poor and mentally ill to drive so you needed a nanny to do it for you.

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>>1992684
>This does not look like a great city. Do you think it does? If so how?
Mostly I was pointing out that Houston can be walkable even without the "best" neighborhoods. What makes a city "great" is subjective, I could tell you how Houston is actually one of the better cities out there but I'm not sure you'll agree. Either way, cities are more than the stuff on postcards and living in a "city" does not mean you'll get housing in good neighborhoods. Even if the housing crisis was resolved by building out supply tremendously, the stuff that will go for cheap will be the oldest and least desirable properties.

You can make almost any city more attractive/less attractive by just showing off different areas, like Venice, Italy here.

>>1992705
>Houston can be walkable
Having several isolated walkable neighborhoods does not make the city as a whole walkable. There's a huge difference between >>1992651 and NYC. And honestly, >>1992651 doesn't even look all that attractive. Shitloads of empty surface parking, 8 and 6 lane roads you have to cross to go from housing to shops, the shops are all big box shit, the sidewalks aren't wide or well maintained, the speed limit is 35 but in reality most traffic is doing 45+. It's shit.

>>1992761
It sounds like you just don't like it and want everyone else to change it to suit your own taste

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>>1992762
If all you'd ever eaten was shit, you'd never imagine you could have anything better. You are correct, the built environment does not bring me joy. I think the only people who "enjoy" it are the suburbanites commuting through it, and only when there isn't traffic. Oh wait...

>>1992763
>Worrying about how other people live
Why is every urba/n/ist a Cluster B personality?

>>1992765
The whole point of urbanism is to revoke or override the system of laws that interfere with unfettered "development" (which is a catch-all for the destruction of private property rights, the erosion of democratic norms, and the construction of behavioral controls that enrich oligarchs at the expense of normal people). Needless to say if you ever hear what they think of you, it's contempt. Seething, frothing contempt. The frustration is amplified by the fact that they know people have caught on to the whole YIMBY scam and they're outraged that they're losing control of the narrative.

>>1992782
Strange, you profess to hate cities and everything they stand for so why do you care so much if more people can live in them and don't need a car to do so? I don't care that you fuck goats in your barn, why so much seethe over cities-dwellers?

>>1992783
I think you have me mixed up with someone else. I live in the city. I like things here, and I would like for "people" (sic) like you to fuck off and ruin something else.

What's the mileage btw? You never did answer >>1989466

>>1992763
I see no issues here. Are you complaining that the rules aren't going out of the way to make the life of suburbanites/car owners/white people miserable for the sake of your seething hatred?

>>1992763
>You are correct, the built environment does not bring me joy.
If you're not making a ton of money living in the city, your options are going to be sparse. Even in a housing surplus, the hip "urban" options are going to be out of reach. When you look at pictures of places like Amsterdam, you're looking at Amsterdam-Centrum, which has some of the highest incomes in the country.

>are the suburbanites commuting through it
It's mostly a local avenue. Suburbanites don't commute through it.

>>1992784
And you have me mixed up with another anon, though we have talked before, you never asked me about my car mileage. It'd be nice if it was 0, but not possible in my situation. I'm happy for you though that you get to live in one of the two truly walkable cities in the US though.

>>1992788
I have no idea what you're bitching about. Cities reducing car use doesn't affect you. You hate the city and never go into it anyways.

>>1992790
The point that you're intentionally missing is that in most European and Asian cities, you don't have to live smack in the city center to be in a walkable environment. IDGAF about central Amsterdam when I could live car-free just as easily in Diemen or Nieuw-West. I'd also argue that most European cities haven't built enough housing either, though places like Italy, Finland, Spain, and France seem to do better than most according to OECD data. Japan is on a level all its own, having had a flatlined Housing CPI for 30 straight years.

>It's mostly a local avenue. Suburbanites don't commute through it.
If it was for local traffic only Westheimer wouldn't need 8 fucking lanes. It's overflow for when I-69 is a shitfest, just like Alabama and Richmond. This is literally why the road gets congested westbound in the afternoon and congested eastbound in the morning.

>>1992803
I don't care about how they do things in Amsterdam

>>1992803
>The point that you're intentionally missing is that in most European and Asian cities, you don't have to live smack in the city center to be in a walkable environment
The reason I pointed out this era is it's miles outside of downtown and you can still find the amenities you want and need within walking distance.
>If it was for local traffic only Westheimer wouldn't need 8 fucking lanes
Lots of people live on Westheimer, and the eight-laned portion goes out to only Highway 6, with dense apartment complexes stretching down all that way (and those produce more traffic than single family homes). Of course you can find excuses as to why you don't want to live there (allergy to parking lots, agoraphobia, etc.) but I'm laying out the facts.

>>1992803
I have no idea what you're bitching about. Cities increasing car use doesn't affect you. You just sit at home and suck cocks of jewish billionaires on the internet for brownie points.

>>1992803
>I have no idea what you're bitching about.
That's because you're the one bitching about everything here, yet you're incapable of reasoning about it for the reasons i stated.

>>1992803
>you have me mixed up with another anon
Hard to not mix you guys up when every day it's the same repetitive "but amsterdam, aaamsterdaaaaam, democracy bad, corporations good" drivel

>>1992898
Cagetroll-chan was the first one ITT to mention Amsterdam >>1992790
Take your meds

>>1992910
>"cagetroll" = "person who disagrees with me"
like pottery

>>1992910
I'm also cagetroll though. As the other anon mentioned, everyone who disagrees with you is a cagetroll

>>1992912
If the boot fits homeslice

>The Urban Form Standard
>(1) Blocks should have length between 200 and 600 feet (60 and 180 meters), and should have perimeter no greater than 1800 feet (540 meters) (e. g., 450*450 ft (135*135 meters)). "Perhaps 80% of good urban form is embedded in this one rule; no other metric is as powerful as this one."
>(2) Blocks should be rectangles with aspect ratio of at most 1.5:1.
>(3) Most street rights-of-way should be 40 to 80 feet (12 to 24 meters). "A 60-foot (18-meter) right-of-way is incredibly versatile."
>(4) Alleys should be 10 to 20 feet (3 to 6 meters) and should be present in most blocks. "Alleys are the unsung heroes of good urbanism. They increase connectivity, access, efficiency, sanitation, light, and air."
https://urbanformstandard.com/
Thoughts?

>>1992936
I'd kick the teeth of a faggot who spouted this in public and kick him in the ribs a few times for a good measure.

>>1992936
why even make blocks and not take into account the natural landscape? No one is gonna want to walk in grid town.
Though I guess you can put a park in a block, but making blocks... blocks off the other blocks doesn't it??

I wanted Brazil to invest in its railway network, only São Paulo did that, I wanted other states to be inspired

Did a 70km bike ride today. Upon arriving was exhausted so rode back the most direct way- along the highway. Forgot how unpleasant highways are, no wonder they build walls along them. Good thing my city has trains.

>>1992963
Because urbanism isn't about some best system or arrangement of living spaces that's beneficial for the people who live somewhere. It's entirely about authoritarianism, control without checks and balances, and dismissing the rights of locals on the grounds that they don't know what's in their own interests. Wrapped in buzzwords that appeal to permanently online zoomers of course.

The same person calling for this block and grid system is on urbanism twitter, right now, posting memes of some chaotically organized medieval hilltop village with a caption "this is what they took from us we must RETVRN to tradition" and they're using it as an argument for demolishing a neighborhood (grid-like of course) that some rapacious developer has his eyes on but the "stupid nimbys" keep pushing back via local laws that specify how changes need to be reviewed and approved, that urbanists consider a form of totalitarianism similar to what's in place in the Islamic Republic of Iran (I wish I was making this up). Yeah those stupid nimbys don't realize that the best street arrangement is (insert thing developer doesn't like).

>>1992963
Supposedly, taking "existing natural features" into account will be part of rule 7, which is still in development.

>>1992557
Sounds like they could use some midrise infill just outside the city center to ease the transition but NIMBYs might kill any proposal like that.

>>1992762
Nice goalpost-moving.

>>1991682
If it’s right next to a park, restaurants, cafes, breweries, bars, gyms, and the largest employer in the state, it’s pretty walkable. Good for Birmingham for making improvements.

>>1992910
I too have noticed that only the cagetrolls mention Amsterdam. And then they complain that non-cagetrolls constantly mention Amsterdam. Lol.

I love pwning cagetrolls by having an argument with myself in the shower and then typing it out in this thread like it's a real conversation between two people

>>1993118
>Houston
>Kansas City
Can urbanists find another city to cry about? It's always those two

>>1993120
It's just that they're highly favorable locations for multifamily developers such as Starwood Capital (PERE Firm of the Year (2021, 2018, 2017, 2015), Greystar Real Estate Partners (Residential Investor of the Year, North America, 2023), and MAAC (ranked #147 on the 2017 Fortune Global Growth 2000 list). High rental demand and friendly regulatory environments among other things, it's just hard not to show excitement about these dynamic, high potential markets.

>>1993120
Houston is like 6th largest city in the US and also facing bankruptcy over it's road debt, so seems like urbanists are vindicated here.

>https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc13.com/amp/houston-budget-mayor-john-whitmire-claims-city-broke-council-approved-bonds/14579157/
>There's a lot that needs to be funded. There are a lot of roads that need to be redone, there's a lot of city infrastructure that needs to be redone, and we don't have the money to do it. The only thing we can do at this point is borrow.

>>1993128
Didn't answer my question

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>>1993118
Why do urbanists always assume every parking space is usable and not just a tow-away lot only used for one business, if at all?

(This is a rhetorical question.)

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>>1993128
>also facing bankruptcy over it's road debt
It's not facing "bankruptcy over road debt", nor does the article say as much. Remember when Charles Marohn talked about "debt for road maintenance" in the case of Ferguson that wasn't even actually for roads at all.

>>1993153
>City officials and advisors state verbatim that Houston does not have enough money to cover repairs to its roads and the infrastructure underneath
>Anon that can't stop seething about Strongtowns: noooooo, muh Ferguson!!!11!1!!11
I love how he's utterly broken your brain. The seethe is delicious.

>>1993166
>The seethe is delicious
He either lied or didn't understand; therefore, all "roads cause bankruptcy" is complete bullshit. How is "seethe" to point out a falsehood?

>>1993166
I'm never going to watch your vlog

>>1993120
Not really, you’re just butthurt and spewing bullshit. You’re probably the same guy who claims urbanists only talk about Amsterdam. Lol.

>>1993238
You'd think Houston and KC were the two most important cities in the US the way you foreigners obsess over them

>>1993259
Because they don't have a genuine interest in transportation or cities, they're just regurgitating bot farm garbage from twitter targeting specific irrelevant areas that happen to be in the crosshairs of specific investors. Same goes for the incessant threads about building hyperloops between Little Rock and Tusacloosa

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He has a point. Long Island land use is fucking stupid.

>>1993259
Houston is the oil capital of the world, so it IS one of the most important cities. Of course, it's way too spread out for mass transit to work outside the beltway, so the parking lots will stay.

>>1993259
Ragie cagie was the one who brought up Houston to begin with lol
>>1992550
>>1992651

>>1993304
Is the ragie cagie in the room right now?

>>1993304
What?

>>1993296
How are American cities going to survive when oil prices go up to were they currently are in Europe?

>>1993344
By annexing Canada and mining their oil, obviously.

>>1993345
lol
I'm literally from the oil rich part of Canada. What about after Canadian oil becomes expensive as well?

>>1993346
By then Russia's colapsed and we can go to mining their oil. There's arctic too.

"Oil running out" is a leftist pipe dream.

>>1993345
Won't help, the US is already a net oil exporter and the largest oil producer in the world. We have more oil than we know what to do with. The problem is everybody needs oil, so disruptions to the supply chain from one producer will affect the price globally. Supply goes down, price goes up. It's a global market.

>>1993354
Just go back to mercantilism and cut off some latam shitholes from the exported oil so they can deal with it globally while all the important people have oil.

>>1993348
>"Oil running out" is a leftist pipe dream
That's why i said "oil becoming expensive"
Some time in the future oil will be too expensive for ordinary folks. How are they going to survive given that American cites are designed almost exclusively for cars?

>>1993360
"Some time in the future" is literally centuries and centuries ahead. If by that time we don't have portable fusion reactors we'll still have tech that will alleviate the problem. That's why i said it's a bullshit leftist pipe dream, no matter how much you weasel about it.

You can easily cut down oil use by substituting nuclear power in the easily replaceable parts of the economy like heating and power generation.

>>1993362
Us slowly running out of cheap oil is just reality. Whats a pipe dream is acting like its guaranteed we will have portable fusion reactors figured out. You cant just say "we can do whatever we want today, because future tech will fix it"

>>1993385
2 more years and reality of running out oil will kick in and we'll get to finally implement communism.

>>1993385
>You cant just say "we can do whatever we want today, because future tech will fix it"
Yes i can. It's barely been a century since humans first took a powered flight, 2.5 centuries since the invention of a useful steam engine. Going several times that much into the future the opportunities are endless and unpredictable.

>>1993392
>future the opportunities are endless and unpredictable.
I think we are agreeing. Portable fusion may or may not be possible.

I don't think we should assume it will be though.

>>1993394
Yeah, portable fusion reactors were just a funny example of sci-fi technology. Saying that there will be new opportunities afforded by new tech isn't very far fetched, though. We've already got a lot of things that can supplement natural oil that just aren't economically feasible due to the absolute abundance of it. There's synthetic oil, there's bio diesel, there's ethanol, hydrogen engines and fuel cells and so on. So it's not even an insurmountable barrier even today, let alone so far into the future that we can only create silly fiction about it.

>>1993397
>synthetic oil, there's bio diesel, there's ethanol, hydrogen engines and fuel cells and so on.
Honestly I know very little about these. Is it feasible that we could produce these cheaply en masse? As a a few dollars a litre?

>>1993401
You can make bio diesel at home, just like you can run an old diesel engine on used vegetable oil that fries were cooked in. You can also make eithanol with a lidded bucket. Synthetic fuel uses any organic or carbon matter with C02 but it does take up an amount of energy to produce it.

So far, none of those are competitive with
gas/diesel fracking but the biggest bottleneck is probably the energy generation, which is why i mentioned nuclear since it inherently creates surplus energy during nighttime as it can't be easily powered down. If nuclear power becomes more widespread, this not only reduces the burden on other fuel sources by itself but also creates a consistent surplus of energy at a certain time of the day that can be used for other applications, including fuel production.

Ethanol is commonly used as fuel in the world in various amounts and is often added to gas, including in the US, although it's more of a welfare scheme than an actually useful process because growing corn for ethanol using current methods takes up about as much energy(primarily in fuel) as it produces, so the amount of useful work is small. I don't know how this economics work out in poorer countries but a few in Latin America, Africa and Asia use upwards of 60% ethanol content fuel commonly.

Synthetic fuel takes up power to make to heat up and build pressure to create it but the amount varies depending on the matter used. Coal and natural gas are the most efficient so they're the most commonly produced ones but plant matter is also used, although the water vapor limits the efficiency of the process.

As for hydrogen i don't know.

>>1993401
"Cheap clean future energy" like ethanol and biodiesel are just repackaged fossil fuels: oil = nitrogen fertilizers = cheap crops = ethanol. That's why these petro shills are rubbing their hands together with glee, thinking they fooled everyone. It's greenwashed gasoline.

>>1993405
I'm all for just using normal, abundant and extremely effective and economical fuel that we've already got everything set up for but if that bothers some people there's nothing wrong with feeding some drooling idiots an idiotic tale to get them to shut up and let normal people do the work.

>>1993406
And this is why nobody should ever trust anything pushed by a petro shill. Just assume every word out of their mouths is a lie, because it is

>>1993407
I'll sooner trust a petro shill than a green fanatic. At least petro shill stands behind something useful for society while the latter is just a malicious retard that was enabled by it.

Greenwashing shit to sell is the standard practice among the green movement anyway, it's only natural that it would also be used against it.

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>>1993408
Yes it is understood that you never question your own behavior. You don't need to announce it. Anything you do is, by definition, the right thing to do, no matter what those dumb libtards say. That's just how it is.

>>1993409
>wah wah waaaaah reeee
No u, go back to seething about functional societies in your tranny discord you obnoxious crybaby.

>>1993410
And here we are back to "no u", I wonder where I've seen this before...

>>1993411
We've seen it in your previous post, and the one before that, and so on. No wonder you felt familiar.

Ok now I'm confused. Are cars good or bad for cities???????

>>1993166
Not only did Chuck break them in half, but you broke them even further.

>>1993283
I wish someone would do a statistic of how much miles of parking and parking garages takes up Long Island. It has to be much more than a few towns combined.

>>1992803
>The point that you're intentionally missing is that in most European and Asian cities, you don't have to live smack in the city center to be in a walkable environment. IDGAF about central Amsterdam when I could live car-free just as easily in Diemen or Nieuw-West.

I would technically say that this is true in the Midwest and in the East. Granted it's not entirely perfect, but the missing element is just having TOD and housing nearby transit. In America the main issue is marrying Real Estate with Transportation rather than putting Transportation in random spots and hoping it works. There is enough room in New York, Pennyslvania, Philidelphia, Chicago and even sprawl areas like Houston, Dallas, even Phoenix. Then moving it outward.

To be fair though, I do notice in recent years though Real Estate and Developers are catching up to the idea of Walkability being important as well. Cities & Towns are realizing this around the same time almost a few years back. Unfortunately it's going to be awhile due to the interest rates and Boomers being angry about Millennials and Zoomers being able to afford a place to potentially own someday.

>>1992936
>>1992963
https://youtu.be/Lgio_ygetbo
How about Hexagons?

>>1993166
Lol. I think the cagetroll brains were broken long before they found StrongTowns.

>>1994301
Heh, it's hilarious how a vlogger can destroy the cagetrolls, Chang.

>>1992557
As it should be. Downtown OKC is more of a theme park for everyone in the suburbs and country side. You need to go back to where you came from.

>>1994402
>pic of Starbucks during the pandemic
>pic of Paris from at least a decade ago
Why do urbanists have to be so disingenuous?

>>1994406
Top is indistinguishable from the Starbucks I went to an hour ago. 20 people sitting in their cars completely blocking the parking lot while me and 2 other people just walked in and got faster service. Drive thrus are a blight.

>>1994420
You guys are always going on and on about giving people "choices" - until it's something you personally do not like, then that choice has got to go and other people should do things the way you want them to.

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No parking lots required.

>>1994420
Lol same. There’s a Starbucks near my parents’ house and there’s always a massive line of cars around it while you can just walk inside and get coffee easily.

>>1994441
Why do you care about what other people do this much?

>>1993882
Long Island NIMBYs are some of the worst in America. Which is retarded, because they’re serviced by one of the best commuter rails in America. Upzone all that shit.

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What do you think of Baton Rouge, Louisiana basically splitting into two cities (or rather, its suburbs incorporating as one)?

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Delicious NIMBY tears lmao

>>1994491
I read about that. I assume the suburb will go bankrupt so it’ll just be a good lesson for them to learn.

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Alberta bros how we feeling?

>>1994504
That is the tax base seceding from the uh... "strength".

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What is the most walkable city in Australia?

>>1994664
I live in the Brisbane city area and I rate it. It’s compact so you can get to pretty much anything walking, plus cycling network is decent. Nature is a short bike ride too. Public transport is decent, but far from perfect coverage but it’s improving.

I’ve walked around Sydney and Melbourne but I find them too bloody big.

>>1994672
Thanks, I'll make sure to visit there. I heard Sydney had a lot of suburban sprawl. What is Perth like?

>>1994680
I’ve never been and I can’t see myself going, so I couldn’t tell you either way.