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absolutely no aviation jobs are hiring and probably will not be for like a year or more. i mean the industry in general, not just pilot positions
>>2051990Nah the hiring has definitely picked back up after two years of near complete stagnation. The difference now is that every month we break the record (set only last month) for people getting xyz rating. It’s almost the surplus that the military was creating in the Cold War. A lot of ngmi’s.
>>2051995for pilots it's probably gonna be fucked for a little while. the shortage psyop got so many people to open their wallets (and/or their anuses for money lenders) and now there's gonna be a seemingly perpetual log jam for a whilebut even ops jobs are kinda frozen at the moment, and i haven't seen ramp ops jobs available in my city either
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>>2051995>>2052005Is it really that bad? Im nearing PPL checkride and planned on going to atp certificate. should I just trade crypto and tend bar
>>2052015well you'll be fine for sure if you don't take out a shit ton of debt
>>2052008Des Moines, Iowa
>>2052008Durango CO
>>2052015It’s a competition. Are you better than most of your peers? OK you’ll probably be fine. There’s a lot of retards, shitskins and clueless women in the pipeline now. By the time a pre-PPL gets to the level of applying to 121’s DEI will probably be in the dustbin of history.So just be better. If you can’t do that then I’d say quit.
>>2052054shitskins and clueless women still beat out the average white man for a job at jewnited. You can't get rid of DEI without setting every HR department on fire and filling the pilot hiring team with exclusively white men. DEI is just the latest acronym for white women's love for destroying white men at every turn.
>>2052033I had a flight attendant pronounce it as “Dess Monies” over the PA kek
>>2052073let me guess. F9 or NK
>dispatchers have jumpseat privileges for airlines in agreements with each other>this include cargo airlines>jumpseat joyride in a 747 because why the fuck not
>>2052082Nah this was at the regionals. But when I was at Spirit, we parked next to Allegiant and a flight attendant asked me who “Alley-Giant” was lol
Flew for the first time with auto pilot today. Was unnerving at first having the plane control itself however I got over that quickly. The G1000 is nice but it's a lot of info.
>>2052527GFC700 or something else?
>>2052529GFC500
Is it just me or do people greatly exaggerate and dramatize the difficulty of ATC work? Looking at flightradar for a long ass time it doesn't look that fucking crazy. Even YYZ shit
>>2052688Use a simulator and find out.
>>2052688Being a surgeon isn't all that difficult either. Most are specialized and do the same few cuts hundreds of times a year.What makes both jobs difficult that you have to do them every day for 30+ years and every small mistake you make could kill people.
>>2052688ATC certification is very difficult and the infamous “checkride” is no joke.I know more than one pilot who went through OKC, graduated and couldn’t handle the pressure of being a controller so they got their ratings instead. For the majority of flying jobs there’s no question that ATC is way more difficult, way more intensive and way more demanding mentally than being a pilot.Some exceptions are out there. A small segment of military pilots, agriculture pilots, many (but not all) helicopter guys, single-pilot floatplane ops…that stuff can be just as demanding as ATC with obviously high accident rates.
>>2052688>Looking at flightradar for a long ass time it doesn't look that fucking crazyOpinion instantly discarded
one of my friends is a regional first officer and he told me that he fucked the female captain on each night if his 4 day trip. But they aren’t dating, they just fucked and that was it. It scares me to think that when I become an FO and fly with female captains, that they just take the dick like that.
>>2052878Are you afraid you won't be able to take as much as them?
>>2052879I know they won’t have sex with me. But it’s crazy to think that I’m going to have an attractive professional sitting in the left seat next to me, but behind hotel doors she’s a freak
>>2052880Here's a not so big secret. Most younger pilots are similar. For example, I'm gooning hardcore when I get in that hotel room. I can choose to goon, or explore the same shithole city with expensive garbage food, or hit the gym. So I stroke it until I gotta choke it. That said, women should not be flying aircraft, sorry to hear about the whores. Just another reason to never apply to jewnited.
I’ve fucked more married women pilots than all other married job types combined. They cheat compulsively, it clearly gets them off and is a huge reason they do the job. Not that all pilots don’t cheat, but the women are way more brazen and aggressive about it.FWIW I’m married too and I cant resist it. It’s hot as hell. But man I do have a little bit of guilt sometimes whereas these women clearly do not.
>>2052917why do people act like united is the gay liberal airline? wouldn't that be alaska or sun country?
>>2052937they're probably from chicago, ORD is dominated by UA and flies to destinations favored by more well-heeled travelers like copenhagen, tokyo, and milano, whereas MDW is dominated by WN that thrives on depressing spots where the working class go for fun, like kansas city, tampa, and las vegas. so naturally you would associate UA with gay liberals who look down their nose at real americans, and WN would be based and redpilled and they really care about a regular guy like me
>>2052943AA has an ORD hub and base. Their FAs are not almost entirely composed of lesbians and trannys like UAL
>>2052917>I'm gooning hardcore when I get in that hotel roomwtf, do you really? I don’t watch porn on overnights
>>2052937UA is arguably the most DEI focused large firm in the United States.
>>2052937Huge DEI pushers. Known to hire any """minority""" status with minimum experience over a qualified white man. Love to hire and fellate women and trannies. Pilot interview has no technical questions, only 'Tell me a time when' emotional intelligence questions. Hard required the vax. Kirby is an open faggot that sucks big black dildos at public parades. Don't know shit about Alaska or Sunny, feel free to educate me on why I should deny their crews a jumpseat due to fear of AIDS.
>>2052951the only thing about sunny is the possibility of creeps from the twin cities, but granted i'd imagine that a lot of the people there live in nicer places like eagan or something. i remember alaska basically being a united-lite thoughi've also noticed one or two troon dispatchers, but i'm not sure which airline they work for, probably a regional since there's no movement in aviation right now
>>2052948>watchno my friend, I read doujins
>>2052955>nicer places like eaganlol
>>2052960what's wrong with eagan? crime rate isn't bad, rent not horrible, etc.
>>2052962>tattoochecks out
>>2052961I mean there are worse places if you set the bar really low but "nice" and "eagan" just sounds silly to me. it's where divorced middle aged men move if they never want to have sex again
>>2052964does that mean she has sex?
>>2052965sure but the options for areas within driving distance of work at the airport are a bit slim
>>2052972They really aren't, but your fear of minorities is stronger than your desire for women. But lots of dadbod single men! You might have more in common with the gays and trannies than you thought!
>>2052975brown hands typed this post
>>2052966CorrectShe probably had sex with dogs too
>>2052962damn, i missed it
>>2052999Meh, you didn’t missed a lot : Sports bra matching running shoes, leggings, tattoos and she was using AirPods Max as wellNo mentionable tits or ass, sadly (but at least she’s fit)Oh and do I have to precise that she is white?
600TT CFI and CFII. I am a cadet and have CJOs at three different regionals. HR told me they don't care how I get the hours. I quit teaching and am time building.
>>2053016Are you asking or telling?
Is it viable to start a career as a pilot with zero previous experience at 35? For the past 2 months I've been looking into it, and there's some conflicting info for the time it would take me to get qualified.I already have some money saved to start off, and I plan on staying at my current job at least until I get my private license (currently working as IT, yeah I know its easy money and all but I fucking loathe it).I'm brazilian so the process might be very different from US/Europe, but I'm just looking for some general direction.
>>2053020Telling but also asking if I made the right decision.
>>2053024If you were American, I'd say it is viable. Unfortunately I don't know anything about the airlines outside the US beyond the fact that they don't pay well compared to the US.>>2053025How are you time building? Are you paying for hours, or getting paid to fly? What type aircraft, what are you accomplishing like XC, night, simulated instrument time, etc.
FYI of the 10% or so of people who fail their LOE its pretty much all timebuilders (as in paid to fly VFR safety pilot to ATP mins) who fail. Being unable to do the job of CFI, or even worse being unable to pass a CFI checkride, is not a good sign.Washing out of 121 training is very bad. Vastly worse than primary training checkride failures. Realistically a 2000 hour pilot with a 121 failure is behind people with 3+ checkrides failures at ATP mins, or to put it in even more bleak terms behind a 0TT pilot about to take his first discovery flight.So if you’re gonna do timebuild just stay sharp and ready to learn
>>2053041There is a big difference between having a bad go during LOE the first time, but coming back and getting it on the 2nd try compared to actually “washing out”
>>2053025I have no idea why you didn’t just keep the CFI job, put it on the back burner taking only the bare minimum work to stay employed, and then timebuild anyways. That way you get the benefits of timebuilding without the stigma of being a timebuilder.BTW that stigma is real and has plenty of basis.
if i get hired at Delta am I assigned a mentor pilot gf to work out with me at the hotel gym on overnights?
>>2053130Total bullshit. I don't care what other pilots think. I am already in a cadet program with CJO in hand. I was told class date as soon as I hit minimums.
>>2053452>i don't care what other pilots think>>asking if I made the right decisionlmao
Tailwheel or seaplane? Do airlines care about either or should I just get more multi-time in anyway?
I'm about to start ATC training in a couple of months bros. What am I in for?
how come were all right wing radicals, boys?unironically 90% of the pilots i fly with are what the mainstream in europe would consider RIGHT WING RADICALSi talked about it to some colleagues and it seems to me that the profession (handling big machines and doing a real job, not a made up one) just attracts a certain type of man.i also think that people in compareable positions, like men in charge of ships or heavy machinery, are mostly right wing radicals.so to all the guys in aviation: whats your experience with this topic?
>>2053654Airlines want multi engine time.
>>2053804It's challenging but that's the fun part, aviation wasn't part of my life before and now I don't know what I'd do without it.I'm curious how it works outside of latam.12 months in and I don't feel quite as ready, unless I gain confidence in OJT, but I want to know what I can improve and learn on my own right now.
>>205383612 months? I'm taking less than that including OJT. But I suppose it'll take another few months before I get a facility rating so it evens out.
>>2053831revoke all ATPs of shitlibs that are not "of good moral character" and cite 61.153(c) in the emergency revocation
>>2053831it's an aviation thing in general. pilots, atc, dispatch, etc.the only leftoids i think would be fas because they're usually women
>>2053831the sky is the domain of the huwite man
>>2051990The industry is utter shit rn and it's going to be for a long time. People take the CFI route for this reasonHonestly if it doesnt get any better im just gonna smuggle shit at this point.
>>2052015Dont stop. Just keep going. You wouldn't want to waste your money
>>2052709Anon is right here. Im on commercial and the checkride isnt a joke, but for the love of God go for ATP instead of ATC.
>>2053831Aviation is a very White job. Even criminals who fly contraband are almost always politically radical.
>>2053654If you're at 25 hours multi then unless you got a job flying multi's there is no way you would be able to pay for enough multi time that would matter in any way to an airline. 25 hours vs 100 hours is the same for hiring. If you haven't paid for your own ATP-CTP then that would be the best bet to make yourself hireable. As far as tailwheel vs seaplane goes, neither will make you pop out on paper, but the tailwheel is pretty fun.
Well, after getting out of the airforce and bouncing from a couple jobs I’m finishing up my certs for A&P. I got the material, the test prep, and even a job that has a corporate hanger so once I do have the credentials I can work there with some networking Problem is that it’s been some years so I’m refreshing on it but also that I only got approved to take the airframe written exam from the FAA. So have any of you gotten one followed by the other before? Was it a challenge?
>>2053897Sunk cost fallacy…
>>2053937NTA but I have ATP-CTP done but no one is hiring OTS. They are hiring the following:>A cadet who went from 250hours to 1500 hours in less than 6 months time building in their own airplane. >A cadet with 6 check ride failures. >A cadet time building in their own personal airplane. >A cadet who ran an airplane off the runway causing substantial damage that wasn't reported.
>>2053937Not true, I start class at a 121 next month OTS. I understand the frustration with cadets, but of the other people I know that are on with the same company, none of them are cadets. 1500 hours, 1200 dual given, 25 multi. ATP-CTP done. The jobs are out there if you go to career fairs and send emails.
>>2054101>>2054095
FA on this trip very noticeably has an interest in me. But I’m not going to do anything about it
Why isn’t she doing her security checks? We are going to miss MOGT..https://youtube.com/shorts/VYKLf8x4ZlQ?si=R4wMq-n1bNjH_3p1
>>2054135Good man
>>2054135Faggot
>>2054225What do you want him to do? Drag her into the tiny bathroom that probably stinks like shit?
