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Former President Donald Trump’s attorney on Thursday argued that a president could order the assassination of his political rival and stage a military coup without being prosecuted for it.

Jack Sauer, Trump’s lawyer, made the “absolute immunity” argument in a Supreme Court hearing in the Department of Justice election interference case against the former president. Trump’s team has repeatedly claimed that the ex-president can’t be prosecuted for “official acts” he did while in office.

Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor asked Sauer, “If the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military to assassinate him, is that within his official acts to which he has immunity?”

“That could well be an official act,” Sauer responded.

Sotomayor seemed taken aback at that line of reasoning.

“I am having a hard time thinking that creating false documents, that submitting false documents, that ordering the assassination of a rival, that accepting a bribe and countless other laws that could be broken for personal gain, that anyone would say that it would be reasonable for a president or any public official to do that,” Sotomayor said, including other examples from Trump’s lawyer’s argument that could logically lead to no prosecution.

Justice Elena Kagan offered a few more hypotheticals to Trump’s attorney, including if a president would be immune from prosecution if they sold the country’s nuclear secrets to a foreign power.

“Likely not immune,” Sauer said, before adding a qualifier: “Now, if it’s structured as an official act, he’d have to be impeached and convicted first.”

“How about if the president orders the military to stage a coup?” Kagan asked.

“I think it would depend on the circumstances,” Sauer said.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-immunity-supreme-court_n_662a6777e4b09d8df9d5b71f?n8g
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Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, another liberal on the court, said Trump’s reasoning could mean presidents in the future could commit all sorts of crimes.

“I’m trying to understand what the disincentive is from turning the Oval Office into the seat of criminal activity in this country,” Jackson said. “If the potential for criminal liability is taken off the table, wouldn’t there be a significant risk future presidents would be emboldened to commit crimes in office?”
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>>1289880
trump has literally never been found guilty of rape or embezzlement. Also still voting trump because dems are anti gun and pro open boarders and pro tax
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>>1289880
Why would anyone with a brain vote for this asshole?
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>>1289903
Except the trial where he was found to have raped and defamed E. Jean Carroll.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
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>>1289880
Didn't Obama assassinate a 16 year old US citizen without a trial or any due process?

If that's all honkey dorey, why wouldn't any president have the right to kill whoever they want, as long as they're in office? Is nignog queen Jackson unaware of this?
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>>1289910
literally not found guilty. that was a civil case, not a criminal case. Also it took place in a foreign communist country outside the US
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People are going to vote for a guy who thinks he can just kill political rivals without prosecution? scary shit
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>>1289918
Lincoln did it first.
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>>1289913
No, he died as a result of collateral damage and also he was an enemy combatant who had given up his citzenship.
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>>1289957
Literally nothing you just posted is true, faggot.
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>>1289915
Nah, judge says he's a rapist. Cope more as you defend Trump, a literal rapist.
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>>1289959
Except what he said was true.
Trump on the other hand ordered the a US citizen assassinated on US soil, the mainland even. And then gloated about it.
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>>1289996
judges can't declare people rapists retard. you would know this if you were American. Trump has literally never been convicted by a jury of his peers for rape
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>>1290000
>it wasn't rape, it was just non-consensual sexual assault
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>>1290003
it wasn't anything. Trump has never been found guilty in a court of law. Trump never did anything wrong or illegal
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>>1290003
It's called civil court. For a reason.
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>>1290007
>>1290008
slow down, you'll get jaw cramps
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>>1290012
you are the one who deep throats biden and says hunter shouldn't go to jail for accepting bribes, not paying his taxes and buying a gun while high on cracks and then lying on his federal background check.
Trump has literally never been convicted by a jury of his peers of a crime. Full stop. cope
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>>1290015
>https://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/trump-lawsuits/
>total lawsuits: 4,095
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>>1290000
See
>>1289910
And keep coping that you're defending a literal rapist.
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>>1290015
So you're in favor of the Trump crime family bring charged for stealing top secret nuclear documents and selling them to the Saudis for 2 billion dollars.
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sounds like Biden has full right to assassinate Trump and the 6 conservative justices!
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>>1290018
cool. doesn't mean shit. show me where he was convicted
>>1290019
he literally was never found to have raped anyone in a court of law. no jury has ever convicted him of rape. keep seething
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>>1290021
no proof. meanwhile hunter admitted to buying a gun while actively high on crack
>>1290022
obongo assassinated scalia
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>>1290024
>no proof.
Except that Trump stole the documents and the 2 billion bribe he got from the Saudis?
If you're going to cope, at least try something other than just going 'nu uh!'
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>>1290023
Judge still declared he's a rapist. Keep coping rapist lover.
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>>1290026
>Judge still declared he's a rapist.
Isn't that what juries are for?
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>>1290025
no proof. come back with a conviction or admission of guilt
>>1290026
idk what third world shithole you are from, but judges can't unilaterally declare someone guilty in a civil trial in the US. for him to be guilty of rape he needs to be convicted by a jury of his peers. he literally never has been therefore he never raped anyone
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>>1290027
>>1290028
Keep
Coping
Rapist
Lovers
>>1289910
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>>1290031
post criminal conviction, troon
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>>1290038
>Moving the goalposts
>exposing he's from /pol/ too
LMAO
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>>1290042
I literally never moved the goal posts. Trump has never been found guilty of rape in a court of law. trump isn't a rapist
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>>1290043
The judge still declared he's a rapist, and that irrefutable truth makes you seethe so much.
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>>1290044
>The judge still declared he's a rapist,
That's the jury's job, silly faggot. The judge doesn't "declare" anything.
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>>1290046
And the jury found that Trump did rape, and Trump was trying to use semantics to pretend he was clear
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>>1290044
judges can't unilaterally declares someone guilty of a criminal offense in a civil trial you retard. that would require a conviction. trump was never convicted of rape, therefore he never did a rape
>>1290049
no jury has ever found trump guilty of rape. next you will say a jury found OJ guilty of killing that woman and jew
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>>1290052
The jury found he guilty, which makes him a rapist. You're using semantics to defend a rapist now.
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>>1290053
That didn't happen either.
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>>1289880
didn't Obama assassinate an American citizen and his teenage son?
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>>1290054
It did. Judge even clarified he is a rapist because damage control like you're doing.
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>>1290053
please post article saying a jury found him guilty of rape
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>>1290056
Can you post that ruling? Or better yet, actual criminal charges?
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>>1290057
>it's not rape, it's just non consensual sexual assault, stupid dems!
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>>1290060
so you can't post an article saying a jury convicted him of rape, because no jury ever convicted him of rape. he was never found guilty of rape
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>>1290061
you can't figure out that the two charges are similarly heinous? tell us without irony that if biden was found liable for sexual assault, you wouldn't use that information against him
>inb4 he cites a lying russian defector
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>>1290064
Who is Tara Reade?
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>he cited the lying russian defector
how embarrassingly predictable
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>>1290067
I guess Believe All Women only goes so far.
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>>1290064
biden legit raped multiple women and dems don't care. just like dems don't care that like half a dozen women said clinton raped them when he was governor and clinton raped a child in the oval office.
meanwhile trump was literally never found guilty of rape
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>>1290064
they don't need court evidence, they just lie
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>>1290057
>>1290059
Can you move the goalposts harder?
Judge already said it. >>1289910
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>>1290077
I'm pretty sure those aren't criminal charges.
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>>1290078
>pretty
I'm 100% sure Trump can be called a rapist and he can't sue you for defamation because it's not slander now.
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>>1290081
He wouldn't sue you because you're an anon faggot with no money, certainly.
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>>1290083
>Trump wouldn't sue people to silence them
Someone hasn't been paying attention.
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>>1290084
Example?
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>>1290085
https://firstamendmentwatch.org/tag/trump-suing-for-defamation/
Here's a few examples of Trump using SLAPP to silence the media and critics.
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>>1290086
Wait a minute faggot, that looks like people with money and public reach. Your sorry ass has neither.
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>>1289957
Cant keep calling every civilian dead collateral damage, and its insane to say he was an enemy combatant
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>>1290087
>It's okay to censor people if they're (Insert group here)
Interesting.
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>>1290091
We can talk about how Trump assassinated Michael Reinoehl who's only crime was to act in self defense against far right terrorists attacking him.
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>>1290093
Isn't that pretty much what leftists all agree on?
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>>1290095
The leftists in your head always agree
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>>1290095
Are you done throwing straw around?
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>/pol/ trying to slide this thread
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Biden should snipe Trump's lawyer lol
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>>1290077
what goal posts? you are calling him a rapist. he has literally never, ever been convicted of rape. one jewish democrat judge calling him a rapist in a civil trial isn't a conviction. a fucking retard judge in NYC said you can't argue 2nd amendment rights in her courtroom because it isn't in the US. a judge being a retard isn't a jury verdict
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>>1290115
>one jewish democrat judge
Your opinion is discarded, anon. Your brain isn't capable of engaging on this topic with any measure of reality.
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>>1290117
not an argument, tranny. You don't have an argument. show me a conviction. We both know your ass would say it doesn't count without a conviction of a this was a dem and you fags say clinton wasn't a rapist
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>>1290121
you don't even get paid by him do you
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>>1290121
>not an argument, tranny
That's because your schizophrenic delusions aren't deserving of an intelligent response. I don't stop what I'm doing to argue with the homeless guy about how the FBI didn't plant robots in his ears. You aren't worth the time or effort.
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>>1290123
I bet you get paid by the DNC/jews/china
>>1290124
post medical credentials, moshie. you got btfo'd and you can't with it you discord fag. this happens every thread
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>>1290130
this does happen every thread. you lose your mind and make a new batch of shit posts a few hours later
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>>1290131
>>1290132
nope. you always get bfto because you are always gasslighting and never argue from a place of reality
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>>1290134
we must have different realities
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>>1290135
you are the one arguing trump got convicted of rape when he never did
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>>1289880
>unless its joe pedo then its okay because he's a retard
sure...
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>>1290136
>you can only prove it was sexual assault
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>>1290140
you can't prove he did anything. he was never convicted. he never touched the whore and she made the whole thing up
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>>1290115
> jewish democrat judge
Antisemite spotted, can't be trusted.
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>>1290142
>pointing out someone is jewish is antisemitism
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>>1290142
I attribute his antisemitism more to his severe schizophrenia than any kind of lucid, reasonable engagement with the world.
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>>1289903
This. I can't be persuaded otherwise because I'm not budging on those issues. I cannot give a single solitary fuck about leftist pilpul anymore and only come here to watch our little Correct the Record interns seethe about it.
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>>1290022
Do try. 49% of the world's guns are in the hands of Americans. Almost all of that 49% voted for Trump. Just remember a good Marvel quip for when you face the wall.
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>>1290053
>found he guilty
Oh it's a thirdie, no wonder.
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>>1290152
>MUH DAY OF DA WALL
Don't worry, chudbro, your local Arby's is safe. No one is coming to conquer you and your little fly over meth village.
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>>1290154
>Resorting to minor nitpicking grammatical mistakes.
Definitely /pol/
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>>1290064
>>1290067
Is "Russian" just the new "Nazi" to these communist retards? Do you just spout it for everything that upsets you?
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>>1290094
He bragged about how he was going to murder a Trump supporter and then shot an unarmed old man in cold blood. He was hunted down like a dog and died like the coward he was. I personally took a piss on his grave lol.
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>>1290095
Yes
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>>1290155
My local Arby's is safe because the last time you retards left your containment zones some pudgy 17-year-old Fortnite player dropped two of the violent, armed felons that had been bussed in to "add muscle" to antifa in Kenosha and deleted a third's bicep, then he walked away a free man. Even in your hard blue hives, like DC, you got beaten up by random boomers and Christians.
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>>1290141
>she made the whole thing up
They made Mikey show his penis so make tRump show his and see if it has a shroom head
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>>1290156
It's an exceedingly common linguistic quirk among third worlders, something you also might be able to spot if you attended any of the boards that do have an international audience. Unlike the briefing you were probably given before being sat down by your shift manager to shill here may have claimed, there are boards other than /pol/ that discuss world issues, did you know that?
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>>1290155
remember when brandon unconditionally surrendered to the taliban?
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>>1290053
the jury quite literally did not find trump guilty of any crimes
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>>1290159
>Unarmed man
>When he had multiple weapons and body armor
>And his friend yells 'we got a live one here!'
>You can hear him using his mace before the gunshot
>Then Trump orders Micheal's assassination and he gets murdered in broad daylight while holding gummy worms.
It was clearly self defense and he was assassinated because he'd be acquitted.
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>>1290179
Using mace to defend yourself from the armed man preparing to kill you while warning your friends that he's "live", ie drawing a gun, is wrong only in that it should have been a gun instead and used the moment Reinoehl reached for his own weapon. The boomer's only crime was hesitating to take a life, because he had forgotten the simple adage, "Communists aren't people", and as a Christian extended Christian mercy to this creature of the devil. A man holding mace is as good as unarmed against a man with a gun and sunglasses. You would know this if you had any familiarity with violence, if you were anything other than a soft intern at a DNC media management outlet of some kind, or online engagement, whatever stupid shit you officially call shilling these days. An armed murderer willing to shoot first did not deserve any kind of honorable duel with the Marshalls, and I find the fact that he died in a similar manner to another violent thug, Trayvon Martin, also killed by a peacekeeper, hilarious in the extreme. If the communist scumbag had committed no crime he should have turned himself in to the police (which, note, Kyle Rittenhouse did immediately and so do most people involved in lawful self defense shootings) but instead he became a violent, armed murderous fugitive on the loose, the exact kind of bandito the dogs of the US Marshalls were bred to hunt down and gun down since the days of the Old West. In short, eat shit you communist faggot, he got what he deserved.
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>>1290187
tl;dr
Micheal shot in self defense because he was attacked. And the fascist right cannot stand the idea of far trials since Micheal would be acquitted
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>>1290166
Now THIS is projecting.
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>>1290188
Incoherent tears and repetition of your narrative will not save you from the facts. He was shot to death by good men and bled out in agony like the murderous coward he was, his soul draining from his body to join your master in eternal torment in hell. God guided each and every shot that ended that murderer's life.
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>>1290189
You're deflecting because you've been caught and have no argument. You should have practiced learning how to actually make an argument before coming here, like lemmings, to try to shill your filth.
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>>1290190
Your projection will never change the truth that Micheal acted in self defense and was assassinated by the right wing regime.
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>>1290192
See >>1290187
He clearly was not. He was a murderous fugitive who was justly hunted down and killed like the communist animal he was. You can keep screaming otherwise but unless you present an actual argument, >>1290187 is still going to apply. Them's the breaks.
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>>1290193
Why are you smearing an innocent man too? He acted in self defense and was assassinated without trial.
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>>1290194
See >>1290187
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>>1290201
See
>>1290188
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>>1290203
See >>1290201
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>>1290203
>NOOOOO WE WERE GONNA INTIMIDATE THE WITNESSES AND EVERYTHING!
Antifa always loses because antifa is an organization cucked enough to serve the very thing it alleges to hate.
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>>1290204
See
>>1290203
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>>1290218
See >>1290204
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>>1290234
See
>>1290218
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>>1290204
>>1290218
>>1290234
>>1290244
See how gay you fags are.
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>>1289880
Fascism is a leftist thing you ignorant moron.
If he exterminates the deep state that will be patriotism, just doing what is just and fair.
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>>1290026
>Judge still declared he's a rapist.
After expressly stating he did not commit rape as rape is defined per NYS penal law. The judge made the case that the sexual assault was Trump publicly declaring he didn't rape anybody. I.E- saying you are innocent of rape is itself sexual assault towards whoever is accusing you. Wild logic but perfectly normal in Libtardia.

There's a reason the only two 'convictions' against Trump were civil cases being held in New York, because it's arguably the most corrupt state in the country and a Democrat powerhouse, so of course they're going to find sympathetic partisan judges willing to blow up jurisprudence and set bad precedent because muh drumphhhhhhh
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>>1289880
So by that logic, Biden could have Trump shot at literally any time without consequences?
Fascinating...
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These conservatives crawling over each other to be the first in line to name Trump their king. Lick boots.
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>>1290265
>Fascism is a leftist thing
>Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition
That's Trump and the Republican who are extreme far right.
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>>1290308
Neoliberal scum, and progressives totalitarians are also far right.
The differentiating factor between who is considered "left" and who is considered "right" seems to be how much weird faggots, illegals immigrants, and other undesirables are appreciated.
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>>1290309
>everything comes back to trannies
you guys are extremely obsessed. it's weird
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>>1290310
It kind of does. Bigfag is loaded with activist money and fag ideology is the guiding light of the Democratic party and much of the media at this point.
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>>1290314
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/transgender-facebook-content-dominated-right-wing-sources-study-finds-n1234252
why lie about things so easily debunked
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>>1290309
>"Fascism is far-right"
>"YEAH, WELL THE LEFT IS FAR-RIGHT TOO!"
The absolute state of conservative brain worms. I'm amazed you've survived this long without chasing a butterfly into traffic or staring at the sun too long.
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>>1290309
>/pol/ meltdown post
Facts really do a number on you.
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>>1290310
>>1290335
>>1290336
>Tranny's seething about /pol/ tards for the 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 time
/pol/ trad board
/pol/ tard website
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>>1290330
>MediaMatters found
Rebunked.
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>>1290345
>if i close my eyes it isn't true
lmao. keep failing anon, once you learn object permanence maybe you'll start growing as a person
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>>1290349
Quit being a faggot on the Internet, faggot.
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>>1290350
i accept your concession, tranny obsessed. cry about your scapegoats to your heart's content
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>>1290342
>/pol/ppet seething they can't take over the smallest board on 4chan.
*Inhales*
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>>1290416
>schizoposting
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>>1290448
>/pol/ppet seething
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>1290449
>schizoposting
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>>1290455
>/pol/ppet still seething
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
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>>1290458
>schizoposting
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>>1289903
How does it feel to be so confidently wrong? Whats it like being in a cult? I have so many questions. Have fun being delusional though.
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>>1290000
Way to waste them quads by being a dumbass faggot. Definitely the stupidest shit ive read all day, hilarious even. Whats it like being in a cult though?
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>>1290459
>/pol/ppet still seething
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>>1290463
holy shit you are a retarded yuro and also you have no dick
>>1290460
please post trump rape conviction
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>>1290468
>Pretending like if Trump were actually criminally convicted of rape he would stop worshiping him and wouldn't be screaming that the courts were rigged and jewish
Why argue over a point that you don't even care about? Are you actually this low IQ or are you just bored?
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>>1290521
so you can't post trumps rape conviction because he was never convicted of rape. got it.
also blame the dems for having such a terrible platform that a convicted rapist would still be preferable to voting for them. fuck dems and their anti gun agenda
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>>1290529
he's never won the popular vote
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>>1290531
a. completely irrelevant since that isn't the goal. its like saying someone should win a football game because they had more yards
b. the popular vote margin in 2016 was less than the popular vote margin in California in 2016 and there are no humans in California so their votes shouldn't count
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>>1290533
it is relevant, you called trump preferable to american people, and that's factually not true
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>>1290534
democrats are neither American nor are they people
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>>1290535
it's such a mystery why you're unpopular
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>>1290538
Republicans are fascists and they like to dehumanize the groups they want to genocide.
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>>1290046
Judges can declare many things. Guilty or not guilty, liable or not. They can make factual findings in service of their rulings. They can take judicial notice of facts. They can even serve as the finder of fact in a criminal trial if an individual waives their right to a jury. All that to say, a judge did declare trump a rapist in our common understanding of the term, cry more about it.
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>>1290553
fascism is a far left ideology that hasn't existed since 1945. republicans are pro guns so they are by default anti authoritarian
>>1290538
half the country voted trump. GOP won the popular vote for the house in 2022
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>>1290554
judges cannot unilaterally declare someone guilty of a crime without a jury unless someone waves their right to a jury trial. they especially can't do it when trump was never criminally charged with rape. the judge was jewish and lying. like how the hawaii judges said the 2nd amendment doesn't apply to hawaii because hawaii isn't in the US or how that black NYC judge said the 2nd amendment doesn't apply to NYC because NYC isn't America
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>>1290577
>>1290578
peak schizoposting hours
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>>1290577
I remember you claiming this in another thread and getting BTFO.
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>>1290584
literally never happened. you are imagining things and also you have no dick
>>1290582
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hawaii-court-says-spirit-aloha-supersedes-constitution-second-amendment
https://redstate.com/jeffc/2024/04/22/brooklyn-man-convicted-over-gun-hobby-by-biased-ny-court-could-be-facing-harsh-sentence-n2173162
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections
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>>1290577
>>1290597
Oh wait, you got BTFO in this very thread.
>>1290308
It's a small world after all. LOL
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>>1290621
>Fascist mad he got exposed and get BTFO anyone
Maybe if you provide another Big Corpo™ definition of the word fascist, you wont be a fascist anymore?

JK, you'll always be a fascist. Go petition the government for more regulations on speech, maybe you'll feel better.
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>>1290621
you clearly don't know how to read
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>>1290244
>I know you are but what am I infinity



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