Anonymous RFK's Lawyer Tried To Have Pol(...) 12/13/24(Fri)14:01:39 No. 1368262 A key legal adviser to Robert Kennedy Jr, Donald Trump’s pick for health secretary, is at the center of efforts to push federal drug regulators to revoke approval for the polio and hepatitis B vaccines and block distribution of 13 other critical vaccines. Aaron Siri, a lawyer who has been helping Kennedy select top health administrators as part of the Trump transition process, is deeply embedded in longstanding efforts to force the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to withdraw a raft of vaccines that have saved the lives and health of millions of Americans. Siri has been sitting alongside Kennedy in interviews in which they have asked candidates for top health jobs where they stand on vaccines, the New York Times reported on Friday. Kennedy, a leading vaccine sceptic, has insisted he has no plans to revoke vaccines should he be confirmed by the US Senate for the health secretary position. But his close ties with Siri are raising concerns about the incoming Trump administration’s intentions, given the lawyer’s intimate involvement in the anti-vaccine movement. Siri works closely with the Informed Consent Action Network (Ican), a “medical freedom” non-profit founded by Del Bigtree, whose has long waged war on vaccines including as producer of the anti-vaccination documentary, Vaxxed. The New York Times report noted that Siri filed the 2022 petition calling for the FDA to revoke approval for the polio vaccine on behalf of ICAN.>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/13/rfk-jr-aaron-siri-polio >>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)14:02:41 No. 1368264 >>1368262 (Cont) Poliovirus, the cause of a disease that used to be one of the most feared by Americans, has been eliminated from the country by the US through polio vaccines. The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention notes that the best way to avoid its return and keep people safe is through vaccination. Siri has not only been involved in lawsuits calling for the withdrawal or suspension of the polio and hepatitis B vaccines, but he has also petitioned the FDA to “pause distribution” of 13 other vaccines, according to the Times. Trump said this week that Kennedy may investigate vaccines for a supposed link with autism. The remark to NBC suggests that his pick for health secretary may run with the conspiracy theory that there is a connection between childhood vaccinations and autism that has been thoroughly debunked yet is repeatedly peddled by Kennedy. Kennedy’s spokesperson, Katie Miller, confirmed to the Times that Siri has been advising Kennedy but said his vaccine petitions had not been discussed. “Mr Kennedy has long said that he wants transparency in vaccines and to give people choice,” she said. OTHER SOURCES:>https://nypost.com/2024/12/13/us-news/robert-f-kennedy-jr-s-lawyer-petitioned-government-to-get-rid-of-polio-vaccine/ >https://www.axios.com/2024/12/13/rfk-ally-revoke-polio-vaccine >https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/13/health/aaron-siri-rfk-jr-vaccines.html >>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)14:05:56 No. 1368266 >>1368262 BTW I need to point out this bastard wants them to do a "double blind" test, meaning half the vaccines in a round of vaccinations would be placebos... meaning a bunch of children would be at risk of getting a disease that could cripple them for life without knowing.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)14:55:41 No. 1368276 Based. Trump is cleaning up health care in this country. As RFK said, there are no safe or effective vaccines. >>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)15:18:44 No. 1368284 >>1368276 >Polio just went away on it's own guys, nothing to see here >>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)15:26:48 No. 1368287 >>1368284 How do you know that polio is even real? Have you ever seen anyone with it? Or is it just something the government made up to justify putting chemicals into kids to make them more compliant and stupider, with the byproduct that it causes autism from fucking up their brain chemistry? This is well documented. Look up "leal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia, non-specific colitis, and pervasive developmental disorder in children" for instance.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)15:33:16 No. 1368290 >>1368287 >Posting Wakefields scam study again lmao even he admitted he was full of shit and just tormented kids with invasive tests so he can push snake oil.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)15:38:11 No. 1368291 >>1368287 you are a real faggot, that's for sure>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)16:19:04 No. 1368303 >>1368284 Unfortunately that statement doesn't hold any water. As it's a disease born from human fecal matter, if the vaccine didn't work to eliminate it, we'd have a large chunk of homosexual men (poopdicks) with polio. In fact it makes you wonder how many polio cases were directly due to filthy faggots covered in shit having the nerve to enter public. Probably a ton. But that does bring up an odd question about the timelines of HIV and the polio vaccine. Polio was eliminated around 1965. Fags started, thankfully, dying of AIDS around 1980. Weird and probably a coincidence.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)16:45:38 No. 1368311 >>1368266 I don't get it, because we already can do double blind tests by going to poorer countries who don't vax for it.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)16:50:21 No. 1368312 >Kennedy ... has insisted he has no plans to revoke vaccines Libelous libtards lying licentiously.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)17:00:13 No. 1368314 >>1368312 Look at his actions and record. If an official's words contradict his past stances, treat him with distrust until he proves those words with new actions. It'd be a different story if RFK were not surrounding himself with anti-vax activists.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)17:17:19 No. 1368315 >>1368314 He's just trying to get the approval removed, which makes sense as no vaccine has ever been tested properly (becuase they'd fail). It's not a ban. You can still go out and take the risky treatment if you want.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)17:20:49 No. 1368316 >>1368315 Approval removal is the same as a ban. If the approval is removed, it removes them from scheduling, meaning that they can't be prescribed or carried in pharmacies. Vaccines would literally become illegal drugs. Don't think they'll actually get that far, because as much as the biotech industry sucks, they have enough money to throw at congress to stymie any attempts to broadly ban vaccines and medicine.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)17:27:07 No. 1368317 >>1368316 They could remove it from mandatory scheduling. This would in effect make it difficult to get and massively expensive. The rich can still opt in, but all the poors don't get a choice.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)17:34:04 No. 1368318 >>1368312 >I insist I have no plans to revoke vaccine >Just my lawyer here trying to take them off-market >>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)18:18:25 No. 1368322 >>1368314 Oh Im looking at past actions and records. Like all the lefty rags that state one thing in their headline, then prove they're lying through their teeth three paragraphs in while dipshits like OP breathlessly spread the lies and clutch their pearls. You don't impress me with this horseshit. You don't impress anyone.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)18:20:24 No. 1368323 >>1368322 Thankfully, Trump will take care of people like these once he's in power.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)18:26:52 No. 1368324 >>1368323 trump will continue to shit his pants, lie and steal from his constituents>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)18:36:38 No. 1368327 >>1368311 Pakistan and Afghanistan are the only countries that don't vax polio that I'm aware of and it's not exactly common in Pakistan.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)18:48:03 No. 1368334 >>1368327 and when you depend on evangelicals to get elected you get the christian version of such countries>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)19:43:10 No. 1368339 >>1368327 What a coincidence that they are also the only two countries in the world with wild polio still endemic.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)21:20:57 No. 1368378 >>1368266 Double blind is actually sane scientific method.>meaning a bunch of children would be at risk of getting a disease that could cripple them for life without knowing. After the test, they can get the actual vaccine.>>1368312 >Libelous libtards lying licentiously. Isn't Kennedy on trump's team?>>1368324 So you will need a polio vaccine then...>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)21:40:53 No. 1368387 >>1368378 The problem is we already know the fucking thing works, literally because of a massive double blind before the vaccine was released. Double blind at this point basically just puts a bunch of kids at risk to confirm the same data we already have. You can't just start doing them after the vaccine has already been rolled out, it defeats the whole point.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)21:47:23 No. 1368388 >>1368387 Yeah. My bad. Didn't think that through. Still on my first kawphee o today will be my excuse.>>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)22:54:39 No. 1368395 >>1368339 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7341a1.htm Yea, and heres 39 countries with 74 outbreaks of cVDPV(circulating vaccine derived polio virus) >>
Anonymous 12/13/24(Fri)22:58:51 No. 1368396 >>1368395 >primary issue is low immunization This literally just demonstrates why the whole population being vaccinated is important. If they did all take the vaccine they would be fine.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)00:25:23 No. 1368398 >>1368315 you are genuinely retarded.>>
give an idiot power and he'll (...) 12/14/24(Sat)01:19:13 No. 1368406 >>1368398 The idiot doesn't realize that idiots like themselves have kids and won't let their kids get vaccinated. Any parent whose child gets polio because of this should have their kids removed smd be sterilized. And enablers like RFKkr and tRump should be arrested tRump already killed 200k+ Americans because he's a danger to public safety.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)01:20:24 No. 1368407 >>1368339 But the low number of cases makes that somewhat rational. Like I said, it's not common there at all.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)01:35:16 No. 1368412 >>1368407 You know anon, 0 kids being paralyzed for life is a lot better than a handful of kids being paralyzed for life.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)02:41:58 No. 1368417 >>1368412 Same reason why there should be no issue with putting vaccines under a microscope. Now can you resolve that conflict with yourself?>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)03:45:54 No. 1368427 >>1368417 anon we already put them under a microscope before they were deployed in the first place. The polio vaccine literally had a massive double blind test before it was deployed. This mindset is like>There is a fire >The fire department prepares to put it out, as they've been doing for the last few decades >"But wait! What if the water is dangerous too! We should test it to make sure!" >They test it >"Ok, it passed. It isn't dangerous, but we had to be sure." >While they were pointlessly testing the water, 3 people die in the fire who would've been saved if they just put it out right away >>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)04:20:19 No. 1368429 >>1368427 You are aware that Pediarix, the DTaP-IPV-Hib combined vaccination was found to cause an increase in eczema as recently as 2020, right? No? OK. Shut the fuck up, queer-ass faggot. Had they just said "fuck it we already tested it" this never would have been found. This vaccine specifically is as recent as 2002. You are a retard, and you should shut your stupid fucking face. It's OK to study vaccines, fuckwad.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)04:33:08 No. 1368430 >>1368429 hey anon, wacky idea; you can run studies without removing authorization. You know, like the entire industry does usually without antivax retards like you and RFK trying to get people killed so you can feel better about your contrarianism.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)04:41:08 No. 1368433 >>1368430 Why am I cornholed into some fringe (probably your shitposts) position I don't support. Eat a dick, tardo.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)04:42:43 No. 1368434 >>1368433 Then why are you supporting RFK's lawyer trying to get vaccine authorizations removed so they can run tests we've already done?>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)04:47:57 No. 1368436 >>1368434 Personally, I'm wasn't. But I do now, if this is true. And if it's true, you're a proven retard. https://icandecide.org/press-release/ican-addresses-misrepresentations-in-nyt-article-on-polio-vaccine-petition/>ICAN’s petition calls for the FDA to revoke the approval of IPOL, but only for infants and children and only until a proper clinical trial is conducted. The petition highlights significant safety concerns about IPOL’s licensure process in 1990, which relied on trials reviewing safety for only three days post-injection—a standard that falls far short of federal requirements for vaccine approval. >Contrary to public perception, IPOL is not the same vaccine developed by Jonas Salk or Albert Sabin. Instead, it is produced using new technology, including virus growth on modified monkey kidney cells, which behave similarly to cancer cells. These details are outlined in ICAN’s petition, which is publicly available for review: Read the Petition. Seems like it's just another NYT hit piece, again. They should go back to news. >>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)06:42:40 No. 1368441 It looks like a bunch of you morons don't know what SV40 is and don't know that most polio that exists in the world today is vaccine induced. Just because a giant pharmacutical company made it doesn't mean it's good for you. >>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)07:30:36 No. 1368443 >>1368262 >at the center of efforts to push federal drug regulators to revoke approval for the polio and hepatitis B vaccines and block distribution of 13 other critical vaccines. the headline and first paragraph are contradicted by the rest of the news story. If this were English class you would lose 15% or more of your grade. This isn't journalism, this is propaganda.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)15:45:04 No. 1368503 >>1368436 They already did a double blind test you fucking retard. Two years prior to his lawsuit.>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9400411/ >>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)15:47:20 No. 1368504 >>1368443 >The New York Times report noted that Siri filed the 2022 petition calling for the FDA to revoke approval for the polio vaccine on behalf of ICAN. Anon can't read.>>1368441 Anon SV40 was a contaminant in a batch of polio vaccines over 70 years ago. They've monitored everyone who got it since and found that nothing fucking happened. Stop letting kids get sick because you need to be a contrarian.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)15:56:43 No. 1368506 >>1368504 >They've monitored everyone who got it since and found that nothing fucking happened. Lol it's been a while since I've seen a bigger load of bullshit than this. Congrats.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)16:00:35 No. 1368507 >>1368506 >https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/instance/2375249/pdf/85-6692065a.pdf >After more than 35 years of follow-up, we found no overall excess of deaths from cancer in these individuals who as infants received poliovirus vaccines contaminated with SV40. >>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)16:06:49 No. 1368508 >>1368504 >They've monitored everyone who got it since and found that nothing fucking happened. >We've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong! Is that why they keep trying to censor anybody who talks about it? Weird.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)16:09:58 No. 1368509 >>1368508 Do you have any actual evidence or nah?>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)16:18:05 No. 1368510 >>1368507 Oh, well if the government said it it must be true. They have a website.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)16:22:52 No. 1368511 >>1368509 You mean besides the fact that SV40 is DNA virus that has been linked to human cancers, and that it's been found in multiple vaccines? You're like one of those faggots who used to argue that smoking cigarettes had tangible health benefits for your lungs.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)16:26:51 No. 1368512 >>1368507 The "study" you linked appears to have a data set of less than 100 people. The vaccine was injected into literally millions of Americans, even after they knew for years that the vaccine was contaminated. Not only that, but it's been proven that SV40 is contagious and found in people who weren't directly injected with it, which destroys your ability to actually perform this pathetic attempt at an "excess deaths" analysis. The same is going to be true for the MRNA death jabs. They're contagious and you aren't going to be able to isolate the affected groups. This is why nobody is buying your bullshit any more.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)16:47:40 No. 1368515 >>1368511 Ok anon let's break down how retarded you are;>SV40 is DNA virus that has been linked to human cancers SV40 has been studied for well over 70 years at this point. It can cause cancers in some animals (hamsters and rats), but is completely asymptomatic in healthy monkeys where it originated from. In regards to humans, the closest thing to a direct link to cancer is that it's a possible co-carcinogen when combined with fucking asbestos, which doesn't need its help to mess up the human body. On its own, it's been found in tumors, but on such an inconsistent basis to the point it can't be linked to any kind of exposure (as in, there are people who were exposed to it directly and then didn't have it in their tumors, then people who weren't exposed but did)>that it's been found in multiple vaccines? Now this part is just pure bullshit. The only real vaccine SV40 was found in was a batch of polio vaccine from the 1950s, and it was there as a contaminant, not an ingredient. Outside of that, the closest you have is parts of it's sequence being used as part of some covid vaccines, except the part being used (the promoter) isn't the part that has any kind of potential cancer connections (the t-antigen), and is a recreation of the virus' sequences instead of the actual live virus. And I'd love to see you actually produce some fucking evidence to back up your claims.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)16:57:53 No. 1368516 >>1368512 Anon if it did cause any amount of cancer, it would've been shown in a group of 100 people.>Not only that, but it's been proven that SV40 is contagious And doesn't actually have any conclusive effect beyond a potential reaction with asbestos, which has it's own can of worms why we banned it beyond that.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)17:01:07 No. 1368517 >>1368515 >In regards to humans, the closest thing to a direct link to cancer is that it's a possible co-carcinogen when combined with fucking asbestos Are you retarded? I don't mean that rhetorically. Are you actually stupid? Asbestos causes cancer because the filaments of the mineral create micro-tears and subsequently scar tissue in the soft tissues of the human body. But the same shit can be said of anybody who works with sanding wood or any other fibrous material. SV40 is a fucking virus that actually damages the DNA of the cell. The mechanisms which cause cancer are completely different. > it's been found in tumors, but on such an inconsistent basis Yeah I'm sure the people who shilled the polio vaccine, the one that was contaminated with SV40, are being totally honest. >The only real vaccine SV40 was found in was a batch of polio vaccine from the 1950s https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/biontech-rna-based-covid-19-injections-contain-large-amounts-of-residual-dna-including-an-sv40-promoter-enhancer-sequence/ >>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)17:01:13 No. 1368518 >>1368516 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1941725/>Recent molecular biology and epidemiological studies suggest that SV40 may be contagiously transmitted in humans by horizontal infection, independently from the earlier administration of SV40-contaminated vaccines. >SV40 footprints in humans have been found associated at high prevalence with specific tumor types such as brain and bone tumors, mesotheliomas and lymphomas and with kidney diseases, and at lower prevalence in blood samples from healthy donors. Like I already said, you can't separate the experiment group from the control group. We're all the experiment. >>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)17:05:21 No. 1368519 >>1368517 Yes anon, the SEQUENCE. Not even the part that theoretically has a cancer risk. It was isolated and synthesized separately, fucking retard. Also, you don't understand how the virus actually works;>Yeah I'm sure the people who shilled the polio vaccine, the one that was contaminated with SV40, are being totally honest. Anon that batch that was contaminated was shipped out in the fucking 50s. Everyone involved with it was either retired or dead when the studies came out. And again, we've found no fucking proof that said contamination actually had any effect.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)17:16:34 No. 1368521 >>1368519 >Anon that batch that was contaminated was shipped out in the fucking 50s. Everyone involved with it was either retired or dead when the studies came out. And again, we've found no fucking proof that said contamination actually had any effect. It was over 100 different monkey viruses, and we effectively don't know what the effect of any of them was. But dickheads like you can certainly continue pretending there weren't any, as if your opinion is worth something.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)17:25:10 No. 1368522 >>1368519 >It was isolated and synthesized separately Did you miss the bit about the *inadvertent* contamination of vaccine batches? Why am I even arguing with you? You can't differentiate between a carcinogen that blocks tumor suppressor proteins versus one that causes tissue scarring. >The only real vaccine SV40 was found in was a batch of polio vaccine from the 1950s, and it was there as a contaminant, not an ingredient. You literally just said that SV40 was found in human tumors.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)18:16:53 No. 1368527 >>1368522 Live virus was contamination. After we had the thing fully mapped out, we were able to recreate part of the genetic sequence for medicine. Saying "SV40 was found in the covid vaccines" is like saying they use full bodies of beavers in ice cream. Reminder SV40 is completely asymptomatic in monkeys. Just because a virus is found in tumors doesn't mean it caused them. The fucking flu is also found in tumors, but that doesn't mean it is a carcinogen.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)18:25:45 No. 1368528 >>1368527 >Reminder SV40 is completely asymptomatic in monkeys. Lots of viruses are asymptomatic in their natural host carriers. That doesn't mean they're asymptomatic in humans, dumbass.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)19:08:28 No. 1368529 >>1368503 >only around 1300 peope in study What a worthless paper.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)19:20:02 No. 1368531 Say it with me again:>There’s no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective. -https://youtu.be/iWTCcZwuIZ8 RFK is the only one speaking truth. He's been the best pick Trump has made and I am excited that he will finally eliminate HHS and CDC, and bring about an end to the modern medicine and food that is making is sicker. The only remedies that work are natural immunity that your body acquires on its own. Anything else is a perversion of the natural order of things. >>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)19:29:58 No. 1368532 Why are there so many antivaxxers on 4chan? I'm not just talking about anti-covid vax, cause I can kinda see that (it's a brand-new type of vaccine that edits RNA or something). I'm talking about the type of people who reject any vaccine. Vaccines have been around since the 1790s. All most of them do is introduce a weakened and non-dangerous version of the virus into you, which allows your body to develop the antibodies to resist the actual virus (basically the same thing your body would be doing if it was infected with the real virus, just with much less risk of getting seriously sick, being permanently harmed, or dying). Then there's the people who reject any modern medicine, from sudafed all the way up to cancer treatments, period. >>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)19:37:39 No. 1368533 >>1368532 the internet is mostly astroturf these days>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)19:39:47 No. 1368534 >>1368266 Yeah but what if the effects of the vaccine are worse?>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)20:45:28 No. 1368535 >>1368532 If you don't have autonomy over experimental medicine being injected into your body, you don't have any autonomy. Libtards invent this "Women will be forced breeders!" bullshit, but are willing to overlook the most basic self-determination.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)20:49:49 No. 1368536 >>1368535 If we went by your definition of "experimental" we'd still have smallpox. Shut the fuck up, plague rat.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)20:51:16 No. 1368537 >>1368536 Don't worry, we're keeping polio alive through pills at $5 a pop.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)21:17:19 No. 1368539 >>1368536 Have you been vaccinated for polio?>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)21:46:52 No. 1368540 >>1368532 >Vaccines have been around since the 1790s. How do you know this? Because some school or media told you lies? Vaccines have never ever been proven to be right. And I'm not talking about some liar in a labcoat, when Joe the Farmer can tell the truth, that's when I'll start believing it.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)22:09:04 No. 1368542 >>1368532 There aren't. You're a sociopath who thinks that everyone who doesn't 100% agree with you is antivax.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)22:12:15 No. 1368543 >>1368542 >sociopath You have to be to support modern medicine. Trump will unleash righteous vengeance upon these things in his "deportations.">>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)22:15:16 No. 1368544 >>1368542 If you oppose the concepts of vaccines, then you are definitionally an antivaxxer. I'm not talking about opposing specific vaccines cause you think they're untested or unsafe, I'm talking about >there exists no safe or effective vaccines which many anons on here echo.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)22:17:31 No. 1368545 >>1368544 You are fucking evil. You and every other who supports vaccines.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)22:30:00 No. 1368547 >>1368543 When are you getting banned again?>>1368544 Many? See the guy trolling? No? And you expect people to believe you aren't just a dumbass?>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)23:25:03 No. 1368553 >>1368544 There are no safe vaccines. They all carry a potential risk. That's why VAERS exists.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)23:34:13 No. 1368554 >>1368553 The same can be said about any medicine, though. There are always side effects.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)23:38:54 No. 1368555 >>1368554 That's why anyone with a brain is saying we need a 0 tolerance vaccine ban on day 1. We need to get this poison out of our country. Make America Healthy Again.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)23:41:02 No. 1368556 >>1368555 Who is "We"?>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)23:41:56 No. 1368557 >>1368556 True Americans>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)23:42:47 No. 1368559 >>1368554 Exactly The basis of all pharmacology is giving people toxic substances that, while harmful in certain amounts, they can tolerate. Because the benefit of these medicines outweigh the risks. The saying>VACCINES ARE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE is a fucking lie, because it insinuates that every vaccine is a cure-all, when it factually is not. But you're not allowed to say that in public, otherwise retards will bitch and moan about how everything that contradicts mainstream thought is a conspiracy theory.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)23:46:31 No. 1368560 >>1368532 Pasteurization, flouride, and vaccines are the two greatest evils medical science forced upon us.>>
Anonymous 12/14/24(Sat)23:52:04 No. 1368561 >>1368560 Pasteurization is literally just boiling dairy products to kill bacteria, and flouride is found naturally. The reason they discovered its health benefits was because communities where it existed in the drink water had way fewer cavities. Granted, if there was too much of the stuff, it bleached their teeth brown.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)01:55:40 No. 1368565 >>1368559 >it insinuates that every vaccine is a cure-all No retard is insinuates they're safe (which if you have a side effect rate of less than 0.1%, is a pretty good assessment for a drug) and effective (which, comparing unvaccinated vs vaccinated populations, again also lines up) The irony is the mistrust anti-vax bullshit breeds has probably killed more people indirectly than any vaccine reaction.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)01:59:12 No. 1368566 >>1368565 >the vaccine is safe and effective >but it hurts people and doesn't actually stop transmission >exactly, it's safe and effective ??? Shut up idiot.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)02:05:49 No. 1368568 >>1368532 Dead virus vaccines are ineffective unless some sort of inflammatory agent (mercury) is added in order to stimulate a response>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)02:33:45 No. 1368570 >>1368566 Except the adverse reactions are so rare you literally have a higher chance of winding up with them if you get the virus itself, and it does actually reduce transmission by 70-90% But I'm sure you're going to rage that it's not 100% and ignore how many people died because they refused to get the vaccine and got covid instead.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)03:12:23 No. 1368572 >>1368570 >But I'm sure you're going to rage that it's not 100% >It's safe, but it hurts people >It's effective, but it doesn't stop transmission >It's a woman, but it has a penis >>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)06:11:34 No. 1368579 >>1368560 A fucking bird can count better than you.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)08:09:00 No. 1368580 >>1368535 >>1368534 >a vaccine people are getting for like a century now can be bad americans are mentally ill>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)08:51:35 No. 1368581 >>1368570 >it totally reduces transmission bro >>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)09:54:55 No. 1368584 >>1368580 It's not like you can't do a google search yourself and figure out that the polio vaccine was massively contaminated. You don't have to run any of the experiments yourself.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)11:29:43 No. 1368585 can we just skip to the nuclear holocaust, i've had enough of the slowly escalating retardation >>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)12:07:21 No. 1368588 >>1368585 It'd be easier to just institutionalize all the leftists.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)12:10:34 No. 1368589 >>1368588 like i said, your retardation is boring to me. just get to earth's finale>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)12:10:49 No. 1368590 >>1368284 >Polio literally went away, was completely irradicated in the US due top stricter immigration policies only to come back full force once Reagan went full amnesty and greenlit every wetback and their polio riddled asses to start migrating back here. >>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)12:29:28 No. 1368591 >>1368590 you know we know you're brown, right>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)12:57:46 No. 1368592 >>1368589 We're not the ones simping for every corporation that waves the fag flag. Christ you goblins took fifteen rounds of an experimental drug because you were scared of a cold that killed virtually no one under eighty.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)13:59:57 No. 1368597 >>1368312 >all politicians lie all of the time but only the ones that i disagree with how's that wall going?>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)14:01:06 No. 1368598 >>1368597 It will be going a lot better once they start arresting everyone who obstructed its construction the first time around.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)14:02:39 No. 1368599 >>1368510 okay. who are we supposed to believe then? you?>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)14:05:16 No. 1368600 >>1368598 sure.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)14:08:40 No. 1368601 I pray for China's next bioweapon to actually be properly deadly. The only way human society has any chance of surviving is a total conservatard holocaust >>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)14:51:57 No. 1368604 >>1368599 How about try reading or looking at the evidence yourself and make up your own mind, dumbass? It's not like they really even hide the outcomes. If you couldn't just google "SV40" and get an instant answer, that would be one thing - but that isn't the world we live in. You have to stick your head in the sand to ignore it every single day and still pretend.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)14:57:29 No. 1368605 >>1368600 Why do leftoids think blaming others for problems they caused and actively obstruct solutions to is a winning argument?>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)14:59:03 No. 1368606 >>1368601 And that is exactly why your kind need to be locked up. You've repeatedly called for the genocide of humanity in this thread. Why on earth should you be allowed to roam free to work toward those goals?>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)17:42:45 No. 1368653 >>1368604 Something I've learned during COVID is that there is a certain caliber of NPC who is completely unreceptive to ideas which contradict previously established talking points. e.g Clots as a side-effect were considered a conspiracy theory. The government said it was true. The NIH said it was true. Big pharma said it was true. These people don't technically qualify as people. They have no inner-monologue and do not understand provisional hypotheticals.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)17:51:53 No. 1368654 >>1368653 >The Emperor says his clothes are the most the beautiful in the land Indeed. It's not really a new story.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)18:02:29 No. 1368659 >>1368654 The emperor had the benefit of actually realizing when his clothes were fake. These morons are not receptive to new ideas. None of them bother to ask themselves questions like>why is everybody getting cancer all of a sudden or>why did none of the asylum seekers at the southern border need to be vaccinated before entering the interior These people unironically wanted to take our kids away for not taking the vaccine. They're stupid and dangerous.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)19:03:26 No. 1368664 >>1368659 >The emperor had the benefit of actually realizing when his clothes were fake. I believe the original Danish version does not include this revelation. He and his "procession" double, triple-down on the facade and the story ends with them boarding a train that doesn't exist, which is really where we're at now.>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)23:37:58 No. 1368712 >>1368605 Who was the leftoid in the OP story?>>
Anonymous 12/15/24(Sun)23:54:33 No. 1368714 >>1368712 This isn't reddit. Stop being a fucking retard.>>
Anonymous 12/16/24(Mon)03:17:55 No. 1368721 >>1368714 Do you think there are leftoids here?>>
Anonymous 12/16/24(Mon)08:51:53 No. 1368731 >>1368721 You understand that sooner or later people are going to realize that everything would improve if you just weren't around, right?>>
Anonymous 12/16/24(Mon)11:24:31 No. 1368737 >>1368436 If you accept that the "viruses" which are probably just proteins used to build up tissue are causing the symptoms then those studies makes sense. Now in reality all they do is take two different vaccines with two different "viruses" and mix them with a lot of toxins to trick the body to see the "viruses" as poison. all those vaccines does is making you less likely to get a positive virus diagnose. They won't save you from any symptoms. You will get the same symptoms with a different diagnose.>>
Anonymous 12/16/24(Mon)14:55:20 No. 1368756 >>1368606 >humanity conservatives aren't human.>>
Anonymous 12/16/24(Mon)14:58:38 No. 1368757 >>1368604 If you read the actual evidence and had the mental brainpower to process it it would be physically impossible for you to retain the views you currently hold. Wordpress sites run by actual diagnosed schizophrenics are not as legitimate as the federal government>>
Anonymous 12/16/24(Mon)17:29:40 No. 1368775 >>1368757 Both of the sources I cited about SV40 are government websites, dumbass. Not that they are actually the font of truth in this world, but I understand that low IQ plebs depend on the fallacy of authority to comfortably exist day-to-day.>>
Anonymous 12/16/24(Mon)17:34:36 No. 1368776 >Inject monkey kidney cancer into your newborn for mild cold that they're going to get sick from anyways! >>
Anonymous 12/17/24(Tue)01:07:18 No. 1368832 >Trusting the scientists is not a feature of science. It’s not a feature of democracy. It’s a feature of religion and totalitarianism. Why is RFK so based?>>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)04:18:47 No. 1369111 Repost from /pol/ but: Virology is a massive scam. There is no proof that viruses and germs even exists or cause sickness. They're just like the spooky spirits of yonder. What actually causes sickness is an imbalance in humors and bodily fluids (somethign that RFK and Trump back me up on). Vaccines, likewise, are a scam. Everything was set up by cutthroat, racketeering eugenicists. Consider the source…. Corrupt “Big Pharma” is the criminal outgrowth of eugenics-obsessed snake oil peddling, Rockefeller-Harriman (Skull & Bones) interests which hijacked medical education/research worldwide, and later merged with the massive Nazi-backing German Dye Trust, IG Farben. The “Father of Modern Vaccines”, John Enders, was a very wealthy member of Yale’s Scroll & Key secret society. His grandfather, Thomas O. Enders, was a banker and then founder of Aetna Life Insurance Co. His father, John Ostrom Enders, was also a prominent Hartford banker and would be responsible for a series of mergers in 1927 that formed the Hartford National Bank and Trust Co. Enders’ father was a Knight of the Order of the Thistle Jonas Salk was a eugenicist backed by Mellon and Rockefeller money. Johns Hopkins connected to Skull & Bones since 1876. The school’s first president was “Bonesman” Daniel Coit Gilman. “Virology: Two Achilles Heels 1) Isolation of viruses is not actually achieved, as it is claimed. Critical examples are poliovirus and HIV 2) Toxicology is missing. That is, the toxic effects of antibiotics used in virological studies are not discounted. The clinical diagnoses and the epidemiology avoid environmental toxicology.” https://harvoa-med.blogspot.com/2020/08/viriso.html?m=1 “A vaccine was to help eradicate the alleged virus. After the polio vaccine was introduced, the symptoms were then re-diagnosed among other things as multiple sclerosis, flaccid acute paralysis, aseptic meningitis etc. and later polio was claimed to have been eradicated.” >>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)04:20:01 No. 1369112 >>1369111 Dismantling the Virus Theory by Dr. Stefan Lanka https://wissenschafftplus.de/uploads/article/Dismantling-the-Virus-Theory.pdf Going back further into Germ Theory itself… Pasteur was a fraud “It took a year just to learn to read Pasteur’s pinched handwriting, but the Princeton professor eventually found “ethically dubious conduct” in Pasteur’s famous anthrax and rabies vaccines.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/wellness/1993/02/23/louis-pasteur-and-questions-of-fraud/196b2287-f63f-4bac-874e-c33b122d6f61/ “Had it not been for the mass selling of vaccines, Pasteur’s Germ Theory of Disease would have collapsed into obscurity.” – E. Douglas Hume F. William Engdahl writes: ”The fraud behind the polio virus scandal after World War II has been refined with use of computer models and other ruses today, to advance one alleged deadly virus after the other, from Covid19 to Monkeypox to HIV. As with polio, none of those has been scientifically isolated and proven to cause the diseases claimed. None. The same tax-free Rockefeller Foundation today, posing as a philanthropic charity, is at the heart of the global medical tyranny behind covid19 and the eugenics agenda of the World Economic Forum Great Reset. Their poliomyelitis virus model helped them create this dystopian medical tyranny. We are told, ‘trust the science.’” A Farewell to Virology By Dr. Mark Bailey ”Rejecting Rockefeller Germ Theory once and for all The entire tragic, criminal, murderous, stupid, farcical COVID fraud is based on a hundred years of Rockefeller medicine—a pharmaceutical tyranny in which the enduring headline is: ONE DISEASE, ONE GERM. All of this is a whole like like the globalists shaped earth conspiracy or relativity. It's just laughable and requires you deny what is right in front of your eyes like BLIND SHEEP. We are now waking up and RFK will lead us forward unto the LIGHT under our God Emperor! >>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)08:51:56 No. 1369145 >>1368532 4chan is the home of Indian shills and unshackled schizos.>>
Anonymous 12/23/24(Mon)23:18:30 No. 1370405 >>1368606 Not agreeing with him but doesn't your side say the exact same shit? You're no different than the side you're so against, faggot. This is why i'm centrist, you fucks are retarded
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