Anonymous Elon Musk leads charge to kill(...) 12/18/24(Wed)20:40:21 No. 1369302 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-leads-charge-kill-spending-bill-meant-avert-government-shutd-rcna184779 Tech billionaire Elon Musk is already flexing his newfound political muscle even before his ally President-elect Donald Trump has taken the oath of office. Musk helped lead a revolt Wednesday to try to stop a bipartisan funding bill in a direct challenge to the authority of House Speaker Mike Johnson and others in Republican leadership who helped craft the measure. And in a remarkable turn, the revolt appeared to succeed at least for a day, throwing budget negotiations into chaos and increasing the odds of a government shutdown this weekend. “Yes,” House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, R-La., confirmed to reporters Wednesday evening when asked if the current bill was now dead. >>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)20:40:51 No. 1369303 Musk posted to X about the funding bill more than 100 times over the course of the day. He repeatedly called the bill “criminal” and asked his followers to call their representatives, but he also posted memes including one of him taking a sword to the bill and another referencing the “Kill Bill” films from director Quentin Tarantino. Later in the day, the phrase “Kill Bill” was on X’s list of trending topics in the U.S. Musk also issued a midday warning: “Any member of the House or Senate who votes for this outrageous spending bill deserves to be voted out in 2 years!” And when The Hill newspaper ran a story on its website about the warning, Musk emphasized his point by approvingly posting a screenshot of the headline. Some of Musk’s posts were inaccurate. He said a proposed congressional pay raise would be 40%, while the maximum potential pay increase in 2025 has already been set at 3.8%, according to the Congressional Research Service. He also said the bill was “funding bioweapon labs,” citing a screenshot from the text of the bill related to “biocontainment laboratories” to better prepare the U.S. to combat infectious diseases. And he retweeted a false post alleging the bill includes $3 billion for a new NFL stadium in Washington, D.C., saying it “should not be funded by your tax dollars.” It isn’t. The bill transfers jurisdiction of RFK Stadium from the federal government to the capital city, which local leaders have been pushing to redevelop for the Washington Commanders, who currently play in Maryland. The bill provides no money related to the site, explicitly bans the use of any federal funds for a stadium there and requires the district to pay for any costs related to the transfer. >>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)20:41:52 No. 1369304 His successful lobbying effort prompted Democrats to offer new nicknames for Musk including “shadow president” and “co-president.” Musk announced his opposition to the bill at 4:15 a.m. ET on Wednesday. “This bill should not pass,” he posted on his social media app X. The statement put Musk out on a limb as one of the first political figures to come out against the bill, but 13 hours later Trump himself spoke out in agreement. What happened in between was a furious online campaign directed by Musk to try to kill the bill, which he said was “criminal” because of its 1,547-page length and how much money it would spend. The measure would have kept the government funded through mid-March. A shutdown is expected to begin at 12:01 a.m. Saturday without action from Congress. Musk has never held political office and had barely voted until recently, but his influence is growing because of the combination of his massive wealth, online celebrity, ownership of X and his monetary and personal support this fall for Trump’s political comeback. Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., was one of several Democrats questioning whether Trump was getting rolled by Musk. “You have to ask Donald Trump — if Elon Musk is making the decisions,” Shaheen said Wednesday. A Trump transition team official, asked why Trump waited to announce his opposition until hours after Musk and others had criticized the bill, said: “He let everyone wonder what he wanted to do. All eyes were on him. When he moved, it was over. He’s president before becoming president.” >>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)20:42:53 No. 1369305 Musk’s position in the Trump administration will be as a non-governmental adviser through his co-lead of a government efficiency commission, so his actual authority is more difficult to measure than that of a Cabinet secretary or full-time White House staffer. Musk did not immediately respond to a request for comment, including on whether he plans to play a similar role in more legislative debates next year. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., said on X: “Democrats and Republicans spent months negotiating a bipartisan agreement to fund our government. The richest man on Earth, President Elon Musk, doesn’t like it. Will Republicans kiss the ring? Billionaires must not be allowed to run our government.” Musk, the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX, spent more than $250 million this year to boost Trump and other Republicans in the Nov. 5 election. Since then, his own wealth has soared to more than $450 billion, making him the wealthiest person on the planet, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index. SpaceX is a major government contractor. On the social media app Bluesky, Rep. Maxwell Frost, D-Fla., said: “Republican Unelected Co-President Elon Musk has killed the bill to keep the government from shutting down on Friday. All he had to do was make a few social media posts.” Musk appeared to acknowledge his influence, replying with a “saluting face” emoji to a compliment on X that touted Musk’s power. Several Republican lawmakers said they were happy Musk intervened, but they stopped short of giving him all the credit or blame for the failure of the budget negotiations. >>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)20:43:54 No. 1369306 Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., said: “Elon put out a pretty serious post there. But you know, that’s the sentiment of the American people. This is why we won on Nov. 5. Everyone is sick and tired of overspending.” Sen. Ted Budd, R-N.C., when asked about Musk's comments on the bill, said: “He’s very influential.” At least one conservative lawmaker, Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tenn., declined to give Musk credit. He said he opposed the funding bill before the billionaire did. “I appreciate Elon Musk following my lead,” Burchett said on CNN. Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., said Musk was tapping into or reflecting “a lot of anger out there.” One Senate Republican aide, who was granted anonymity to speak candidly, said Musk’s role was not decisive and risked a backlash. “I think the CR was already cooked without Elon but I wouldn’t be thrilled with him playing this role if I were Trump,” the aide said, using the acronym for a “continuing resolution.” There was no guarantee that Musk’s opposition to the bipartisan bill would succeed. When he announced his opposition, the betting website Polymarket gave a 12% chance of a government shutdown this weekend. Throughout the day, amid Musk’s flurry of tweets, the odds rose to 40%. Many of his posts on X received tens of millions of views, according to the app’s publicly visible data. His initial announcement opposing the bill was seen 32 million times, and a post with a photo of the bill asking, “Ever seen a bigger piece of pork?” was seen 27 million times. ___ >>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)20:44:26 No. 1369307 >>1369302 Thank God for Elon Musk.>>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)20:50:46 No. 1369310 >>1369307 >this is fine lel>>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)21:04:37 No. 1369314 Government should stay shut down until Trump takes office >>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)21:10:17 No. 1369317 >>1369314 Trump should be president for life. Even if democracy worked (it doesnt) it doesnt get any better than Trump and it would make the left screech until all 70 million of them get deported. Why do we want to risk the golden goose on some chance that the fickle bleeting sheep may shoo him out in a few years? We have power and we should make it absolute and eternal.>>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)21:37:01 No. 1369320 Elon should be speaker of the house! Make congress great again! >>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)21:46:16 No. 1369322 >>1369317 imagine being the loser who thinks this is trolling>>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)21:54:26 No. 1369323 >>1369322 Maybe he's trolling, but I agree with his sentiment. Rome only achieved greatness once it transitioned from a republic form of government into an empire. Napoleon and Hitler took absolute control over their decaying democracies and nearly conquered the world. The greatest modern leader, Putin, keeps a firm grip on his country and the Russians love him for it. All the greatest nations throughout history have invested absolute power in a monarchial or dictatorial figure. An effective totalitarian government is always preferable to a democracy. I can't go into too much detail about why this is. I'd recommend reading Nick Land or Mencius Moldbug for a much more compelling explanation on why meritocratic neo-feudalism is preferable over democracy. Only the weak and stupid, prey animals incapable of thriving in such a system, would prefer democracy where they get an unearned spot at the table of governance.>>
Anonymous 12/18/24(Wed)21:58:07 No. 1369324 >>1369322 I'm pretty sure it's just Ivan trying to stir the pot and the other schizo who uses words like "obongo" in every other post.>>
Nietzsche_teen_1488 12/18/24(Wed)22:29:22 No. 1369329 >>1369317 >>1369322 >>1369323 LAWL! HELLA! F*CKING! EP1C! FELLOW MASTER MORALITY PRACTICING UBERMENSCH! WE SHOULD TURN ALL LEFTARD'S CHILDREN INTO CUNNY SEX SLAVES AFTER WE SLAUGHTER THEIR PARENTS!>>
Anonymous 12/19/24(Thu)00:50:58 No. 1369353 >Elon Musk is already flexing his newfound political muscle >Musk posted to X about the funding bill more than 100 times Random third party tweets must surely be an effective way to operate a government. Another sign of winning bigly. I wonder why no sane government does this?>>1369317 >it doesnt get any better than Trump You so deserve what's happening next.>>1369317 >Trump should be president for life I even hope that comes true for you, just to teach you appropriate lessons.>We have power and we should make it absolute and eternal. You have a soap box on which to stand and ramble. Most of which consists of pointing at "them" because addressing the cause of the us/them divide would require to consider your own merits.>>1369323 Say what you will about a brutal dictatorship - shit gets done. Or your family suffers. However, regarding "unearned spot", that happens regardless of system in place. How many of your current examples got there through merit, and how many got there because they knew someone?>>
Anonymous 12/19/24(Thu)00:52:01 No. 1369354 >>1369329 >WE SHOULD TURN ALL LEFTARD'S CHILDREN INTO CUNNY SEX SLAVES AFTER WE SLAUGHTER THEIR PARENTS! Free admittance to the rampant pedophillia in murrica's far right?>>
real retardassance man 12/19/24(Thu)05:06:34 No. 1369473 Musk is a genius, he got into internet banking on the floor, and he used the $ to hire people not as smart as him to build rocket ships & electric cars >>
Anonymous 12/19/24(Thu)05:14:48 No. 1369476 >>1369314 True and real, best thing that can happen right now.>>
Anonymous 12/19/24(Thu)05:28:17 No. 1369481 >>1369473 >Musk is a genius Lost.>he used the $ to hire people not as smart as him Better. He used the $ to hire people *smarter* which is why that shit works. Sorta. Better than what musk was comin' up with, anyway.>>
Anonymous 12/19/24(Thu)14:41:29 No. 1369556 >>1369481 >Sorta kek>>
Anonymous 12/19/24(Thu)15:28:06 No. 1369583 >>1369329 The sad thing is this isn't satire.>>
Anonymous 12/19/24(Thu)17:11:40 No. 1369620 >>1369476 You don't even live in America.>>
Anonymous 12/19/24(Thu)19:48:44 No. 1369651 Elon should be speaker of the house! >>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)02:33:01 No. 1369716 >>1369302 In another article I read>All day, Johnson had been fighting to figure out how to meet Trump’s almost impossible demands — and keep his own job — while federal offices are being told to prepare to shutter operations. Watching the republican speaker of the house is my favorite thing. Because no matter what, they're always the most hated person from all sides, they have basically no power, and they don't really seem to want to be there that badly.>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)02:46:36 No. 1369718 >>1369716 >they basically have no power Third in line of succession and the power to kill bills on a whim is enough power.>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)03:41:58 No. 1369737 >>1369651 but why tho?>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)03:44:41 No. 1369738 >>1369718 Something that has never happened, and the ability to NOT do something. So basically as much power as everyone in this thread.>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)03:56:38 No. 1369739 >>1369738 Nothing goes to the floor to be voted on without The Speaker's sayso. That's called power.>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)04:57:53 No. 1369742 >>1369739 Yeah, like I said, the power to do nothing.>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)16:27:19 No. 1369781 ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS THE DEMOCRATS FAULTS. >>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)16:50:28 No. 1369790 >>1369781 Especially bad things>>
Anonymous 12/20/24(Fri)20:18:01 No. 1369824 >>1369314 >>1369651 Do you have your own thoughts or are you just a Musk dick licker?>>
Anonymous 12/27/24(Fri)14:48:48 No. 1371050 >>1371027 Die off, boomer
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