Homan, however, said they will also need help from Congress.

“We need more resources; we need funding. We obviously need to buy more detention beds because everybody we arrest, we have to detain to work on those removal efforts and get travel documents, get flight arrangements. So we need more detention beds,” said Homan.

Homan said the Trump administration doesn’t plan on separating families but rather deporting them together. He said the administration is looking into using halfway houses to hold U.S.-born children of undocumented immigrants.

“As far as U.S. children, that’s going to be a difficult situation because we’re not going to change your U.S. citizenship,” he said. “Which means they’re going to be put in a halfway house or they can stay at home and wait for the officers to get the travel arrangements and come back and get the family. You know the best thing to do for a family is to self-deport themselves.”

Homan also targeted birthright citizenship, saying having a child who is a U.S. citizen does not make undocumented immigrants “immune from our laws.”

“We can’t send that message,” he said. “Because if we do, you’re never going to solve the border crisis.”
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>>1370911
86 billion is a drop in the bucket for what the illegals cost. That's one week of Ukraine funding

>>1370909
>Incoming Trump administration border czar Tom Homan tells NewsNation’s Ali Bradley there is no “price tag”
>Homan further defended the mass deportations’ $86 billion price tag,
lol

>>1370936
Hello retarded ESL street shitting Indian

>>1370937
Didn't you hear? Indians are based now.

>>1370938
They are cheap labor

>>1370941
Thank God for Elon Musk.

Illegals bring in 86B, + 86B= 172B loss to US economy. All because ignorant bigot scum like anons in this thread

>>1370934
>That's one week of Ukraine funding
Citation required. And even if it did cost your taxpayers this - which it really doesn't, most of what you've been throwing is munitions nearing the end of it's shelf life - then your return has to be more than satisfactory. You need to take into account that all it's costing you is a few dollah but it's costing russia a *lot* more. Like a fucktonne of tanks causing them to fallback on reserves of aincient design... And not a single murrican citizen placed in line of fire. That's a bargin.

>>1370934
>86 billion is a drop in the bucket for what the illegals cost.
I've not done the math. Mayhaps you'd like to show your working? Don't neglect to deduct what immigrants bring in from what the immigrants cost and remember to factor in holding facilities operational costs as well as the taxpayer funded saleries for the 100,000 or so extra hands for the next couple of decades you'll be needing just to find them.

>>1370909
>Homan further defended the mass deportations’ $86 billion price tag, saying it would save American taxpayers money in the future.
Sure. Over what timeline?
86Bn is a lower bound estimate too, that's assuming everything goes according to (poorly concieved) plan. 300Bn+ in the first year alone is a lot more realistic. It's a good thing no-one involved will be trying to cut corners or skim off the top of this multi-decade operation, or them costs will be snowballing.

>>1370976
Oh well.

>>1370909
good investment i don't think he's even necessarily wrong but it'll take most of trump's term to even implement and it'll get overturned whenever a democrat wins again.
I don't think they'll finish deporting all of them before trump's term ends tbh.
>>1370976
keyword "illegal" immigrants. so they don't bring in anything.
I'd be fine with them being shipped off to california and NYC so they can wreck the place instead of being deported. I hope they sneak around to the sanctuary states

>>1370976
>it's okay for us to spend billions of dollars on a foreign country we don't give a fuck about so they can blow up Russians, dragging us into a conflict that has nothing to do with us and bring us closer to WW3
>it's not okay for you to spend billions reinforcing our border, that we know terrorists are using to infiltrate the US, and sending illegal aliens out of this country before they cause more harm, murder more people and cost us more money in the long run
Fuck you.

>>1370976
oh dear god from above, please set this cunt aflame for his transgressions. May the next immigrant sneak upon you and torch you alive!

>>1370976
For the life of me, I can't remember the last time a Russian has killed an American citizen - but I can point to an illegal killing an American citizen last week!

>>1370976
https://www.fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers-2023

>>1370978
so they don't bring in anything.
False. There's plenty illegals do. They have a significant economic input - picking up all the jobs you just wouldn't do and doing it for dirt cheap because they don't got wage protections. You'll find more working than not. And that's just visa overstays, before we start any other metric.

>>1370982
>spend billions of dollars on a foreign country
Again. Very little is monetary and even less actually costs you. Do the math, not docile media posts.

>dragging us into a conflict that has nothing to do with us
I'm sure you have zero national security interest in russia slowly expanding into europe.

>bring us closer to WW3
No more so than yesterday. It isn't you a few years into a 3 day training excersize resulting in boots on the ground on foriegn soil. You're not the ones having to hire in mercs from other armies to suppliment the meat waves. This could stop overnight - it's not you making it continue.

>it's not okay for you to spend billions reinforcing our border
I didn't say this. What I did say is do the math. Understand the costs - not docile media posts - then decide if that's acceptable.

>that we know terrorists are using to infiltrate the US
The ones you really need to worry about you don't know about to stop so can just stroll across your borders legally. It's not the leaders of these things that strap themselves up with an explosive vest for a subway ride. It's the literal nobodies. No amount of securing your border will do anything here - especially when you start to consider sleeper cells that have been installed for decades now and the serious problems move through the cartel's tunnels lined with geophys and GPR resistant panels on a literal train, right under the boader. Because down there lines on a map or walls/fences don't mean shit.

>sending illegal aliens out of this country before they cause more harm, murder more people and cost us more money in the long run
Hence: What timeframe. How long ROI?

>>1370990
>before they cause more harm, murder more people
This is a consequence of 'people' not 'illegals'. You have this shit happen where the word 'illegal' isn't used. This shit happens where you isn't, so it's not even a cultural thing. It's a people thing.

>>1370986
But murrican killing murrican? Daily. It's a non-issue. The issue isn't "illegals" it's "killing" and that happens regardless of socioeconomic background, political affilitation, and place of birth. These are not was causes killing. Contributory, maybe, but not cause.

>>1370984
>please set this cunt aflame for his transgressions
List them. List the ways *I* have violated anything but your delusional bubble that allows you to displace causality to better suit the narrative of a third party.

>May the next immigrant sneak upon you and torch you alive!
They, like any other, are welcome to try. They had better be ready.

>>1370909
>“However, it’s going to save taxpayers a lot of money in the long run. Right now, we’re spending billions of dollars on free airline tickets, free hotel rooms, free medical care, free meals, the education system.”
As soon as everyone gets the word that this isn't the place for free handouts any more, a lot of them will go home on their own, or just stop coming here completely.

>>1370909
billions for defense, but not one cent in tribute
>>1370934
true
>>1370976
>I've not done the math. Mayhaps you'd like to show your working?
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/roadrunners-charters-agrees-to-temporarily-stop-transporting-migrants-to-nyc/
NYC says 33,600 illegals are a net cost of $708,000,000 over 2 years so illegals are a net -$10,535 per year
Low estimate of 11,000,000 illegals
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/
means illegals cost humans $115,885,000,000 annually
>Don't neglect to deduct what immigrants bring in from what the immigrants cost
illegals provide literally zero benefit to the average person and NYC says they cost a net $10,535 per year

>>1370909
Even if the price-tag is true (which I doubt), the hardest thing about mass deportations isn't the costs associated with finding, rounding up, and exporting them. It's getting other countries to agree to actually take this people. If Trump's plan to eliminate birthright citizenship is true, a good portion of these illegals will be stateless and have no country to go back to.

>>1371000
>It's getting other countries to agree to actually take this people.
Interesting objection to illegal immigration.

>>1370976
>>1370990
You are literally arguing in favor of slave labor.i know you are being paid to post and didn't care because you will be sucking a newborn foreskin later but shut the fuck up and stop lying. The border will be secured.

>>1370952
Non woman burning illegals are a definite plus to our economy & society.

>>1371001
For any country in the Americas other than Brazil/Mexico, they wouldn't be able to accept 10-15 million people at the same time.

>>1370909
>Trump’s mass deportation effort estimated to cost $86 billion
Worth every penny

>>1370995
>zero benefit to the average person
Provably untrue. Everywhere they are able to find gainful employ is of 'benefit' and by steps of removal to the average person not just their employer.

>NYC says
There's more places than NYC. And a lot more immigrants than are living in shelters on handouts. The issues you cite are not a problem with illegal immigration as much as the response to it - namely throw it somewhere else to let them deal with the shit. The other evidence you offer shows a steady decline in numbers since 2007 and delivers an increase of only ½million over the span of two years which looking at the angles pre 2007 is 'normal' influx. Your math for the 'cost' is flawed as you're putting all as recipients to NYC's care packages. Most isn't there. Most is working to support themselves.

>>1371002
>You are literally arguing in favor of slave labor
No, I'm saying consider the downstream effects on your already struggling economy and rampant inflation.

>i know you are being paid to post
You don't know jack shit. As evidence by that vastly incorrect assumption.

>and didn't care because you will be sucking a newborn foreskin later but shut the fuck up and stop lying.
The way you live your life doesn't automagically translate to everybody else's daily experiences.

You think I lie, point out where. I'm speaking sense. Your ability to listen to it, or lack thereof, doesn't mean what I'm saying is untrue.

>The border will be secured.
Evidence suggests otherwise. But you're so confident in this proposal, explain to me how a wall will prevent a determined aversary armed with ladder based technologies? More importantly demonstrate how this counters the already problematic tunnels dug by the best engineers money can buy - cartel money - and used primarily for moving human traffic and drugs in one direction and weapons and money in the other. Even better: Demonstrate how building a fence will deter someone you've never heard of from using a crossing.

>>1371009
>Everywhere they are able to find gainful employ is of 'benefit'
No. Grow the labor pool relative the the job market and wages decline. But you've also grown the worker pool in relation to housing supply, so rents and house prices increase. Same with government services - more pressure on schools, hospitals, police, public transit.

Everyone earns less, pays more and enjoys less services.

>I'm saying consider the downstream effects on your already struggling economy and rampant inflation.
The economy is not struggling.
>walls dont work
They are better than no wall.

>>1370991
I hope they barbecue you and eat you.
> List the ways *I* have violated anything
did you vote for kamala if you did you're worst then Stalin and deserve to be vored

>>1370909
>fixing the mess that wokeists made will cost $86 billion
yeah, it's expensive when children are allowed to fuck things up like this. We never should have opened the border in the first place, but here we are.
>>1371009
>everywhere they are able to undercut working class wages is a benefit to the working class
LMAO, keep licking the boot.
>walls don't work because ladders and tunnels!
migrants are getting injured trying to climb the wall:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/migrants-are-falling-trumps-30-foot-steel-border-wall-us-breaking-legs-rcna33301
and elderly, disabled, fat, pregnant, children, etc can't climb the wall. Tunnels are used only by cartels for specific purposes, they aren't shoving 5 million people through a fucking tunnel you idiot.

>>1371009
>provably untrue
>source is my asshole

wow really making a solid argument here

>>1371032
>they aren't shoving 5 million people through a fucking tunnel you idiot.
they're using airplanes, it's the 21st century

>>1371010
>Everyone earns less, pays more and enjoys less services.
This model is observable without immigrants being a variable. Ergo, this is an existant problem to which you are attributing blame in the wrong directions.

>The economy is not struggling.
Keep telling yourself that. One day you might notice two thirds of your population are technically living in poverty.

>They are better than no wall.
Maybe. But, especially considering their shortfalls, are they the most cost effective solution to the problem in hand? Hint: there's a clue in current sections being auctioned off.

>>1371022
>I hope they barbecue you and eat you.
Again. Welcome to try.

>did you vote for kamala
No. I have not been stupid enough to indicate that I'm unsuitable to make my own descisions so thusly did not register the intent to choose someone else to do my thinking for me. Just because you're simple enough to require someone to think for you because you can't be trusted - as evidenced by the content % of your post(s) that align with reality - doesn't mean that everyone else suffers such a deficit.

>you're worst then Stalin and deserve to be vored
Finally, something that almost makes sense. And is remotely true. You can say what you like about a brutal dictatorship, but shit gets done. Or the next five generations of your family suffers. Cunts like stalin couldn't hold a candle to me. What dipshits like you fail to consider you're only alive because I don't want to be like that. Because I'd be very good at it. I can think. Tactically. I instinctively grok complex systems with a glance. And you're all already politically divided. A few pokes with the right stick in the right place and half of you will shred the other half in a civil war. What remains will darwin itself by 50% in six month. You dumb cunts couldn't even survive two weeks without recreating diseases extinct since the time the victorians introduced sanitation. And you have a very fragile power grid.

>>1371060
tldr i aint reading this slop we aren't in bloody highschool where essays need a certain word count.

If you voted for trump ur a nazi who deserves to be punched, if you voted for Kamala ur a far-left lunatic who needs to be castrated to protect the kids, if you voted for third party you're a traitor to america and deserve to be hanged.

>>1371010
>>1371060
I have a suggestion just round up the middle class in blue states especially california and NYC and implement a twitter tax. Trust fund babies who spend time on twitter have it deducted out of their savings and if they refuse round them up for treason and throw them into a fire.

>>1371032
>>fixing the mess that wokeists made will cost $86 billion
Good news. This problem predates the 'woke' cultural traction. Even better news, 86 billion is a lower estimate for the *first year* of a multi-decade operation assuming for bare minimals and everything going right. For realistic, you're looking closer to the other side of 300 billion in the first year alone. And that's being generous and assuming there's not going to much diverting of funds into personal pockets.

>LMAO, keep licking the boot.
IF that's what you think is happening, then that explains how you're so easily led.

>migrants are getting injured trying to climb the wall:
Using ladders. Which doesn't back up my asscertions at all.
"illegal border crossings are at an all-time high and Border Patrol agents and local paramedics have responded to 229 injuries since October 2021"
So, to assume this 'wall' is effective, then in 3 years there's been ~300 over the top. Lets be more realistic and assume this wall is not a substantial barrier and say 1% injure themselves on the way down, the rest have the sense to spend a fiver on paracord to build a rope ladder. Strugglin' to get near 5 million. Over the totality of your boder, sure. 5 million a believable number. Wall won't change that significantly over it's cost.

Also, 5 million since when? As in, over what timeframe. Which cherry picked stats you using?

>Tunnels are used only by cartels for specific purposes, they aren't shoving 5 million people through a fucking tunnel you idiot.
Not in one go. But some of them have trains. It's cleared in a few min. Over the lifetime of the tunnel? maybe. And they're already digging more tunnels before that one finishes. One of the specific purposes is human trafficking. Once the tunnel has recouperated it's construction costs additional ROI is sought for high cost tickets with near assured crossing potential. Just hold this bag on your way.

>>1371053
I've thought about little hand-gliders. Towed by pickup to gain velocity... Mail the frame back. Or just build it outta eglass and it's disposability factored into ticketing.

>>1371077
It doesn't take much to get through whatever wall or fence any president puts up. If Trump was really serious and wanted to fix illegal immigration, he would increase the size of the Border Patrol by 10x. But he won't do that because he doesn't really want to fix it.

>>1371068
>twitter tax
It's called X now and Elon would never approve such a tax.

>>1371080
the tax isn't on him it's on the blue retards that use the platform. Then rename it to social media tax and include reddit and facebook onto it too.
Use the funds to help fund mental health programs.

>>1371081
A tax on bot scripts would be more effective.

>>1371009
>Provably untrue.
source, your gaping anus?
>Everywhere they are able to find gainful employ is of 'benefit' and by steps of removal to the average person not just their employer.
they cause immense harm to the average person by costing taxpayers while paying no taxes, driving up the cost of housing, lighting people on fire and driving down wages and harming unions. If we got rid of illegals and H-1Bs, median wages would skyrocket and wealth inequality would fall
>There's more places than NYC.
NYC provided a number, retardo
> And a lot more immigrants
they are illegals, not immigrants
> than are living in shelters on handouts.
most illegals are on gibs
https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Camarota-Testimony.pdf
>The issues you cite are not a problem with illegal immigration as much as the response to it - namely throw it somewhere else to let them deal with the shit.
why the fuck should texas deal with a problem NYC caused?
>The other evidence you offer shows a steady decline in numbers since 2007 and delivers an increase of only ½million over the span of two years which looking at the angles pre 2007 is 'normal' influx.
I cited a low end estimate to prove my case. actual numbers are closer to 20 million because over 10 million illegals came in under biden and 2023 was a record year for illegals entering
>Your math for the 'cost' is flawed as you're putting all as recipients to NYC's care packages.
again, low end estimate because nyc is pro illegal and would lie to suppress the number
>Most isn't (sic) there.
they cost more in other areas, ESL
>Most is (sic) working to support themselves.
literally untrue, ESL. Illegals are evil pieces of shit who are imported to drive down wages and to work tax free for less than minimum wage

>>1371076
>I am NOT licking the boot!
>I'm just mindlessly siding with billionaires and corporations about an issue that I clearly don't understand
yes, that's called bootlicking. I know you think living in a pod is fun now when you're in college, but in another 10-15 years when you want to buy a house, just remember your bootlicking is the reason you won't be able to.

>a 300lb pregnant Mexican woman is easily going to be able to climb over the wall
lol. Lmao, even.

>>1371060
>One day you might notice two thirds of your population are technically living in poverty
source? Keep in mind the global poverty rate is like $2/day
>b-b-but that number includes shithole third-world standards of living!
yeah, and guess what effect importing 150,000,000 third-worlders has had?
>>1371053
>illegal immigrants only come over on airplanes
still pushing this meme after you get BTFO in every thread? You really are new to this board aren't you? If migrants coming across the border weren't a problem, then why were you so upset about the buoys? The razor wire? What do you think the migrant caravans do when they reach the border? And you realize nobody is allowed into the country via airplane without being vetted? This means all those murderers and gang-members couldn't fly in. The illegal immigrant who burned a woman in NYC had already been deported; you can't fly into the country after being deported.

>>1371093
lmao
https://immigrantsrising.org/resource/guide-for-undocumented-individuals-traveling-in-the-u-s/#domestic-flights

>>1371088
>source, your gaping anus?
Reality. You should visit it sometime.

>median wages would skyrocket and wealth inequality would fall
So.. By your ascertion, this planned mass exportation will fix everything. When what actually happens is wages at best stagnate and at worst raise and cause another round of inflation - what will be your scapegoat then? You really deserve what's about to happen.

>NYC provided a number, retardo
And the number you cited is vastly different, as you take the NYC rate of 'cost' and apply it unilaterally to places where this does not apply.

>they are illegals, not immigrants
Regardless of legal status, they've migrated. They're immigrants. The clue is in the name.

>most illegals are on gibs
To use your case study example of NYC - which is slanted in methodology due to external forces - there's supposedly ~½ million or so 'undocumented' immigrants living there full time. So that's less than a fith 'on the gibs'.

Your shitty .pdf of cherry picked data also fails to support the stance which you use it to support: "high welfare use is not caused by an unwillingness to work. In fact, illegal immigrant-
headed households are more likely to have a worker present than U.S.-born households" Doesn't suggest more on handouts than they have to be. "llegal immigrants do add perhaps $321 billion to the nation’s GDP" Vs that 86 billion deportation, that's likely closer to 300 billion in the first year alone.. Net loss: 600bn. Good math. Dipshit.

>>1371093
>yes, that's called bootlicking. I know you think living in a pod is fun now when you're in college
Another wild shot in the dark that's so far off you're comical. It's really no wonder your shit is in the state it is.

>when you want to buy a house, just remember your bootlicking is the reason you won't be able to.
No. That's not a problem for me at all. This is all your problem. The bit I'm pointing and laughing at is you caused it. And you're doubling down harder.
Your inability to understand the shaping forces in your system is what will continually drive up house prices - with and without migrants.

>source? Keep in mind the global poverty rate is like $2/day
The way most of them need to use food banks. The way they're ½ a paycheck not arriving from being in serious shit. The way significant numbers cannot afford a house. Or eggs.
There's third worlders with better standards in some areas, and that gap is only shrinkin'.

>>1371097
>Reality. You should visit it sometime.
still no source, reddit spacing
>So.. By your ascertion, this planned mass exportation will fix everything. When what actually happens is wages at best stagnate and at worst raise and cause another round of inflation - what will be your scapegoat then? You really deserve what's about to happen.
no goy, you can't get a raise, it will cause hyper inflation if you are paid more than poverty wages goy. we need the illegals to keep your wages down goy.
>And the number you cited is vastly different, as you take the NYC rate of 'cost' and apply it unilaterally to places where this does not apply.
NYC's cost is a low estimate because NYC loves illegals. actual cost is much higher
>Regardless of legal status, they've migrated. They're immigrants. The clue is in the name.
they aren't. they are criminal invaders
>To use your case study example of NYC - which is slanted in methodology due to external forces - there's supposedly ~½ million or so 'undocumented' immigrants living there full time. So that's less than a fith 'on the gibs'.
I literally posted a link showing a congressional study found most illegal aliens are on gibs, you retard. you are basing this off your asshole with no source or data
>Your shitty .pdf of cherry picked data also fails to support the stance which you use it to support: "high welfare use is not caused by an unwillingness to work. In fact, illegal immigrant-
>headed households are more likely to have a worker present than U.S.-born households" Doesn't suggest more on handouts than they have to be. "llegal immigrants do add perhaps $321 billion to the nation’s GDP" Vs that 86 billion deportation, that's likely closer to 300 billion in the first year alone.. Net loss: 600bn. Good math. Dipshit.
illegals are on gibs retard and they only benefit the mega rich by suppressing wages and destroying unions. deporting illegals would benefit all humans and only harm bankers, you piece of shit shill

Why haven’t these illegal immigrants been taken in and housed by the 75million Kamala voters?

>>1371108
Isn't that what Sound of Freedom was about?

>>1370952
>Illegals bring in 86B
Selling kebabs on the street doesn't bring in anything

>>1371135
Friendly reminder every single "mass deportation" effort by individual states stopped dead when it ruined their agricultural district. We're reliant on immigrant workers, whether you like it or not.

>>1371099
>still no source, reddit spacing
Reality is a source. Your bubble being that dense you can't see it doesn't demerit it's existence. You call it "reddit spacing" because all you know is docile media. The educated call it 'paragraphs'.

>we need the illegals to keep your wages down goy.
Again. This isn't what I'm saying. This is what you're wanting to find in it. This says a lot about you. What I am saying is your arguments are deeply flawed as you fail to consider the downstream consequences you will endure.

>NYC's cost is a low estimate because NYC loves illegals. actual cost is much higher
Think about that for a second. They love 'illegals'. Why would they have lower costs? You cherry picked this example specifically for it's "high" benefit rates - ie: taxpayer costs - and for the way others have herded here to concentrate an issue. And even in this cherry picked example that most closely suits the third party narrative you peddle, around 1/5th of the numbered illegals are recorded as "on the gibs". The link you posted didn't have a number for 'on the gibs'. But it did have many other cherry picked numbers and camarota clearly states "in fact, illegal immigrant-headed households are more likely to have a worker present than U.S.-born households" Explain how this backs your stance. I notice how you casually ignore the first years cost will exceed their economic input...

>deporting illegals would benefit all humans and only harm bankers, you piece of shit shill
You really need to do better math. And you desperately need to stop trying to use docile media as an educational tool.

I'm not a shill. I'm just trying to make you realise sense. It's a futile endeavour I'm aware. But when it's all falling to shit around you, it makes the pointing and laughing so much sweeter.

But you are a fat sack of shit. A physical embodiment of precisely why your country is in the state it's in, and a stark indicator of precisely why there's little hope for progression.

>>1371135
>Illegals bring in 86B
Closer to 300 billion. According to: https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Camarota-Testimony.pdf

Illegals do more than sell kebabs and if you think a street vendor doesn't contribute to the economy then your educational systems are even shittier than I thought they were - and my opinion of them isn't high.

>>1371169
Hm. So, we're spending 86 billion to get rid of, well since obviously nothing short of becoming North Korea will get our numbers to 0, 200 billion. We're literally spending money to fuck over our economy, but hey it'll be worth it because less brown people! (and we get to funnel 80 billion to various companies that give kickbacks to Trump and pals I guess)

>>1371170
That 86 Billion is a lower bound estimate, assuming for everything going right, puttin in the minimal and taking several decades. Realistically you're looking closer to 300 billion in the first year alone.

But you're getting the gist.

>>1371135
>>1371099

Different Anon coming in 'off the street', it's this one: >>1371140

The big push for illegal immigration comes from the department of agriculture, but really any physically demanding remote labor is in the business of undocumented workers: picking fruits & vegetables, the dairy industry, meat and food processing and packing. I think the official statistic is like 32% of all American food production is done by illegals. Construction is also another big one. Illegals are simply more competitive: they don't pay income tax so they'll work for very little, they're often pretty good at what they do, they work hard and don't complain, you can acquire more or remove them whenever, they're not entitled to any benefits, they're basically a dream for any kind of unappealing simple labor - especially remote or rural kinds.

Stomping up and down, shitting, screaming nigger faggot, hasn't stopped illegals for the past 110 years from coming back and forth, and that isn't going to change.
American doesn't want to solve this problem, Americans don't want to solve this problem. Nobody actually engages this subject in a material dialogue. The illegal migration crisis is just political theater: Trump is going to waste 86 billion dollars, probably steal most of it, and then tell you "Nobody has ever deported more illegals than me. Your favorite President, now deporter in chief. ICE, they're today's cowboys really, have done such an excellent job of ridding our great nation of nasty, yucky, illegals. America, beautiful America, has never been safer, or cleaner, than it has during my presidency." and everyone will implicitly believe it.

>>1371171
No shit it's going to be expensive. You completely fucked over our country with decades of open borders, it's obviously not going to be a quick fix. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure but you said that having borders was racist n shit so here we are. It's either this or we live in pods and accept literal third-world standard of living

>>1371168
>Think about that for a second. They love 'illegals'.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/07/us/nyc-mayor-emergency-migrants/index.html
kek

>>1371203
Imagine being gullible enough to actually believe this

>>1371169
>>1371170
>>1371171
This from the supposed party of fiscal responsibility, everyone

Deport the Mexicans that clean our streets.
Import the pajeets that shit in our streets.

Making America Great Again!

>>1371169
ya keep them in they're helping cull the american problem. I don't get why Trump wants to stop them he should just ship most of them to NYC and california and create a one way restricted zone to keep them inside.

>>1371210
You'll find >>1371169 and >>1371171 was mine, and I'm not affiliated with any political or corporate entity. Yours or otherwise. I have zero vested interest and am simply trying to promote sense and good thinking. A futile endeavour I'm aware. But in six months time when half the country is on fire due to riots over food prices it allows me to laugh so much harder when I point.

>>1371276
Your first mistake was posting links from https://oversight.house.gov/ like it was a valid source of information.

>>1371310
Wasn't my link. I'm actually using it as supporting evidence as for why this isn't the cleverness it's thought to be. It was posted *to* me as supporting evidence of 'them' "all on the gibs".
There's very little tangible data in that document, and that which is appears to be cherry picked to support a predefined stance. So is easily used to counter the purposes it was supposed to reinforce.

You'll find my mistakes to be thin on the ground - but I welcome opportunities to improve. Feel free to point them out. I would stongly advise you demonstrate better reading comprehension before attempting it in order to reduce the probability you'll do *this* again.

Regarding it's value as a source of information, then it has value in and of itself by way of being an echoreflection of the data .gov is using to push narratives and form policies.

>>1371168
>Reality is
so you still have no source and are talking out of your asshole. you aren't even American, retard
>What I am saying is your arguments are deeply flawed as you fail to consider the downstream consequences you will endure.
which you are basing on retarded arguments you are pulling out of your asshole. illegals drive down wages. that's the entire reason why bankers want them here.
>Think about that for a second. They love 'illegals'. Why would they have lower costs?
because they want to make illegals look less bad, retard
>You cherry picked this example specifically for it's "high" benefit rates - ie: taxpayer costs - and for the way others have herded here to concentrate an issue
noooo illegals are good in red towns and states, but not blue cities, reeeee
>And even in this cherry picked example that most closely suits the third party narrative you peddle, around 1/5th of the numbered illegals are recorded as "on the gibs". The link you posted didn't have a number for 'on the gibs'.
the link I posted shows the majority of households with an illegal are on the gibs. cope you retarded faggot
>You really need to do better math. And you d
you still don't have an argument and are pulling shit out of your ass. illegals provide zero economic benefit. they just exist to lower wages so bankers can get richer
>I'm not a shill. I'm just trying to make you realise sense. It's a futile endeavour I'm aware. But when it's all falling to shit around you, it makes the pointing and laughing so much sweeter.
you aren't even American and you are shilling for more illegals in the USA, you piece of shit

>>1371172
>no we need slaves because Americans won't pick cotton. the economy will crash if lincoln frees the blacks.
that is literally your argument retard. you aren't even American. Americans will take the jobs, the bankers just need to pay a fair wage. I bet people would line up to pick strawberries or build houses for $250,000 per year. the issue is a salary one. And Americans want to get rid of illegals, its the billionaire banker class who is against it, shill