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Not covered in this article, but apparently Colombian president folded like a lawn chair an hour later and authorized the return of Colombian immigrants.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-orders-sanctions-on-colombia-after-it-refuses-deportation-flights/ar-AA1xTVmH

President Donald Trump on Sunday announced strict tariffs and visa restrictions on Colombia after the South American nation’s president, Gustavo Petro, said his country will not accept deportation flights from the United States unless the Trump administration ensures that repatriated Colombian migrants are treated with the “dignity that a human being deserves.”

In a series of posts shared on X on Sunday, Petro said the U.S. can’t treat Colombian migrants “like criminals.”

“I do not authorize the entry of North American planes carrying Colombian migrants into our territory,” Petro said. “The U.S. must establish a protocol of dignified treatment of migrants before we receive them.”

On Sunday, Trump retaliated by announcing tariffs of 25 percent immediately, rising to 50 percent in a week, on all Colombian goods coming into the United States after he said two U.S. flights were turned away. He also issued a travel ban and said the United States would immediately revoke the visas of Colombian government officials, their allies and supporters.

“These measures are just the beginning,” Trump threatened in a post on Truth Social. He contended the actions were warranted because Colombia was violating its legal obligations and was harming the national security of the United States.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/colombian-leader-quickly-caves-after-trump-threats-offers-presidential-plane-for-deportation-flights/ar-AA1xTWp6

Colombian President Gustavo Petro offered his presidential plane to repatriate migrants coming back from the U.S. on Sunday, following stern warnings made by President Donald Trump.

The move came after Trump hit the Central American country with retaliatory measures in response to Petro's refusal to accept deportation flights. In a statement translated from Spanish, the Colombian government said that the plane will help facilitate a "dignified return."

"The Government of Colombia, under the direction of President Gustavo Petro, has arranged the presidential plane to facilitate the dignified return of the compatriots who were going to arrive in the country today in the morning, coming from deportation flights," the translated statement read.
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>>1377605 (OP)
tRump gave the Columbian president 50M as a bribe, and Don Jr gets 1 kilo of pure cocaine in the deal.
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>>1377605 (OP)
We need to nuke Rio Janeiro. Maybe that will teach them to fear us.
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>>1377605 (OP)
>apparently Colombian president folded like a lawn chair an hour later and authorized the return of Colombian immigrants.
Actually he just had them picked up, then hit us with retaliatory tariffs and called Trump a white slaver. So you jumped the gun on celebrating when in reality we just got into a trade war because we couldn't be slightly nicer to deportees.

Whoops.
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>>1377658
Columbia hit the US with tariffs? Lol that's opposite to what the article says
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>>1377659
We hit them with tariffs, they hit us with tariffs back. That's how it generally works.

Now the real issue is the main Colombian import is refined oil. They can literally go find another country (like say, China) to refine their oil supplies for them, so even if tariffs get dropped we might've just fucked ourselves. Same thing that happened with Trump's trade war against china and the soybean industry: they found other partners, and now we're worse off even after things died down.
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>>1377644
Rio de Janeiro is in Brazil you retard
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Not a good time to be a coffee enjoyer.
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>>1377659
Perhaps read what Colombian president said. Also not surprised you cannot spell Colombia.

>Trump, I don’t like traveling to the U.S. much, it’s a bit boring, but I confess there are worthy things. I like to go to the Black neighborhoods of Washington. There, I saw a whole fight in the capital of the U.S. between Blacks and Latinos, with barricades, which seemed to me like nonsense, because they should unite.

I confess that I like Walt Whitman, Paul Simon, Noam Chomsky, and Miller.

I confess that Sacco and Vanzetti, who have my blood, in the history of the U.S., are memorable and I follow them. They were murdered for being labor leaders with the electric chair by the fascists who are inside the U.S. just as they are in my country.

I don’t like your oil, Trump, you are going to end the human species with greed. Maybe one day, along with a drink of whisky—which I accept despite my gastritis—we can talk frankly about this, but it’s difficult because you consider me an inferior race, and I am not, nor is any Colombian.

So if you are looking for a stubborn person, that’s me, period. You can try to stage a coup with your economic power and arrogance, like you did with Allende. But I will die by my law, I withstood torture, and I resist you. I don’t want slave owners on Colombia’s side, we already had many and we freed ourselves. Who I want to be on Colombia’s side are lovers of freedom. If you can’t join me, I will go elsewhere. Colombia is the heart of the world, and you didn’t understand it. This is the land of the yellow butterflies, the beauty of Remedios, but also of Colonel Aureliano Buendía, one of whom I am, perhaps the last.
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>>1377681

>You will kill me, but I will survive in my town, which is before yours, in the Americas. We are peoples of the winds, the mountains, the Caribbean Sea, and freedom.

>You don’t like our freedom, fine. I do not shake hands with white slave owners. I shake the hands of libertarian whites, heirs of Lincoln, and of the Black and white rural boys from the U.S., in front of whose graves I cried and prayed on a battlefield, which I reached after walking through the mountains of Tuscany and after saving myself from COVID.

>They are the US, and before them, I kneel, before no one else.

>Overthrow me president, and the Americas and humanity will respond.

>Colombia, now stop looking to the north, look to the world, our blood comes from the blood of the Caliphate of Córdoba, the civilization of that time, from the Roman Latins of the Mediterranean, the civilization of that time, who founded the republic, democracy in Athens; our blood carries the resistant Black people who were turned into slaves by you. In Colombia lies the first free territory of the Americas, before Washington, of all the Americas, I take refuge there in their African songs.

>My land is of the goldsmiths that existed in the time of the Egyptian pharaohs, and of the first artists in the world in Chiribiquete.

>You will never dominate us. The warrior who rode our lands, shouting freedom, and who is called Bolívar, opposes you.

>Our peoples are somewhat fearful, somewhat shy, they are naive and kind, lovers, but they will know how to win back the Panama Canal, which you took from us with violence. Two hundred heroes from all over Latin America lie in Bocas del Toro, now Panama, before Colombia, whom you murdered.

>I raise a flag, and as Gaitán said, even if I am alone, it will remain raised with Latin American dignity, which is the dignity of America, which your great-grandfather didn’t know, but mine did, Mr. President, immigrant in the US.
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>>1377682
>Your blockade does not scare me because Colombia, in addition to being the country of beauty, is the heart of the world. I know you love beauty as I do, don’t disrespect it, and it will offer you its sweetness.

>COLOMBIA FROM NOW ON FACES THE WHOLE WORLD, WITH OPEN ARMS, WE ARE BUILDERS OF FREEDOM, LIFE, AND HUMANITY.

>I have been informed that you impose a 50% tariff on the fruit of our human labor to enter the US, I will do the same.

>Let our people plant corn, which was discovered in Colombia, and feed the world.
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>>1377683
>COLOMBIA FROM NOW ON FACES THE WHOLE WORLD, WITH OPEN ARMS, WE ARE BUILDERS OF FREEDOM, LIFE, AND HUMANITY.
Cool. Sounds like they finally agreed to take back all their illegal immigrants
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>>1377683
>I have been informed that you impose a 50% tariff on the fruit of our human labor to enter the US, I will do the same
Sooo.. Colombian cartels need to pay 50% more for their American guns now? What else does the US export to Colombia
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>>1377690
Not accepting any more flights (they only picked up their last batch because they were stranded in Honduras) + 50% tariffs.

And this is why you don't try to fly military planes into other countries instead of just using a normal fucking plane. If anything he tried to do us a favor by telling us to knock that shit off.
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>>1377692
Colombia exports coffee beans and raw petroleum to the US. The coffee is it's own mess, but they'll likely find another country to refine that oil for them... meaning Trump just drove another country into China's waiting arms.
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We are going to inflict maximum pain on Colombia. We are going to cause so much financial distress for Colombia they’ll be begging for us to send them back. Same goes for any other South American country that refuses to take their citizens back.
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>>1377696
China was already encroaching on our status as Colombia's #1 trading partner, this probably just gave them the in. We're driving away valuable resources to China because Trump can't stop being a fucking retard throwing hissy fits when he can't do his stupid stunts.

Seriously, Petro was doing us a favor when he told us to just send them in a normal plane. We were wasting literally a hundred times as much money as we needed to on a stupid photo stunt to deport them via military planes. And instead of just taking the L and doing the smart thing, Trump just drove one of our trading partners to China, and if he did, they're not going to come back even if we drop the tariffs.
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>>1377696
>We are going to cause so much financial distress for Colombia they’ll be begging for us to send them back.
Their country is poor. You might as well say your going to get a stone and put it between a rock and a hard place.
China will probably just use them as a new narcotics hub for the US
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>>1377700
>>1377698
All they have to do is take their citizens back. Is that too much to ask?
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>>1377681
The billionaires live in fear. This is good. Let them always look over their shoulder and listen for footsteps following them. tRump has 4 years, and if he don't die from heart disease, the ides of March, 2029 await jlm.
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>“I do not authorize the entry of North American planes carrying Colombian migrants into our territory,” Petro said. “The U.S. must establish a protocol of dignified treatment of migrants before we receive them.”
>"The Government of Colombia, under the direction of President Gustavo Petro, has arranged the presidential plane to facilitate the dignified return of the compatriots who were going to arrive in the country today in the morning, coming from deportation flights," the translated statement read.
Sounds like Trump folded and the Columbian President got everything he asked for.
What a bitch. I thought Trump was tougher
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>>1377702
All we had to do was deport them without using a big stupid military plane to do it. Not only was that not too hard to ask, it would've been better for US if we did.

Like I don't care about your opinions on migrants or criminals. Spending 800k on an 80 man flight when we could've been spending 8k is fucking stupid.
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>>1377702
Turns out they are.
An hour and a half ago they announced they will take their citizens Bank
Trump triumphed again.

>White House says US-Colombia agreement in place after back-and-forth over tariffs, immigration

>The White House said Sunday night that a U.S.-Colombia agreement had come together in the wake of a back-and-forth between the two countries over topics including immigration and tariffs.

>“The Government of Colombia has agreed to all of President Trump’s terms, including the unrestricted acceptance of all illegal aliens from Colombia returned from the United States, including on U.S. military aircraft, without limitation or delay,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a statement emailed to The Hill late Sunday

>“Based on this agreement, the fully drafted IEEPA tariffs and sanctions will be held in reserve, and not signed, unless Colombia fails to honor this agreement,” she added. “The visa sanctions issued by the State Department, and enhanced inspections from Customs and Border Protection, will remain in effect until the first planeload of Colombian deportees is successfully returned.”

>On Sunday night, Colombian President Gustavo Petro reposted Leavitt’s statement on the social platform X.

>Earlier in the day, Petro pushed back against “the entry of American planes carrying Colombian migrants into our territory” on X. Trump later went after Petro on his Truth Social platform, saying he “was just informed that two repatriation flights from the United States, with a large number of Illegal Criminals, were not allowed to land in Colombia.”

>“This order was given by Colombia’s Socialist President Gustavo Petro, who is already very unpopular amongst his people,” he added.
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>>1377681
Most eloquent, EAASLer, better spoken than 95% of English speaking poster here
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>>1377705
>>1377705
Nah, your wrong and buttmangled like always.
1 hr ago: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5108055-white-house-says-us-colombia-agreement-in-place-after-back-and-forth-over-tariffs-immigration/
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>>1377707
>citizens Bank
*Take their citizens back
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>>1377707
Sounds more like we realized this was stupid and quit the tariffs. I guarantee you, if this is true, we're not getting anymore military plane stunts regardless of what they said.

And honestly? Good. Petro did us a fucking favor by killing these wastes of money.
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>>1377711
Sounds more like you didn't read the latest news lmao.
Educate yourself retard https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5108055-white-house-says-us-colombia-agreement-in-place-after-back-and-forth-over-tariffs-immigration/
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>>1377705
>>1377707
Read this, Orange clown anus licker
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>>1377711
>“The Government of Colombia has agreed to all of President Trump’s terms, including the unrestricted acceptance of all illegal aliens from Colombia returned from the United States, including on U.S. military aircraft, without limitation or delay,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a statement emailed to The Hill late Sunda
Stay buttmangled, leftshill
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>>1377712
Don't mind me not believing the Trump white house on face value.

Literally the best possible ending to this would be if we just went back to using normal planes instead of military ones, which we probably will considering the stupid amounts of money the military planes cost to fly there. In which case we literally did exactly what Colombia wanted us to.

Alternatively, Trump is continuing to waste stupid amounts of money on military plane flights, which means we're still fucking losing.
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>>1377706
I’m sure there’s a logical reason why a military aircraft was used, why are you so upset about spending now? I’m sure as they get into the swing of things they’ll figure out how to do it more efficiently. Just trust the plan.
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>>1377714
>We're going to continue wasting money by spending hundreds of thousands on a task that could be done for a few thousand
I'm so glad Trump is increasing how much we spend on immigrants.
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>>1377716
Ok, whatever buttmangled shill. It literally does not matter what you believe, it's happening regardless of how deep you bury your head in the sand
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>>1377718
>I’m sure there’s a logical reason why a military aircraft was used
It's for the sake of fucking photo ops. We used normal planes before, but those don't look as impressive as loading them in like Con Air.

>why are you so upset about spending now?
If your main issue with immigrants is them parasiting money from us, why aren't you upset about spending hundreds of thousand dollars more than we need to on them?
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>>1377706
>Spending 800k on an 80 man flight when we could've been spending 8k is fucking stupid.
We could have spent 0k if Biden didn't let them illegally enter
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Happy Liberation Day anons, it's the holiday that keeps on winning
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>>1377722
Keep telling yourself that. Really helps to justify all that burned cash.
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>>1377706
>80 man flight when we could've been spending 8k
Lmao wtf you going to pack 80 people onto a Cessna 195?
You ain't getting any airplanes that can hold 80 humans that will fly to Colombia on 8k, that's not fucking happening lmao
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>>1377724
Happy Liberation Day, anon
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>>1377718
>I’m sure there’s a logical reason why a military aircraft was used
Trump using a big intimating thing he doesn't own and didn't pay for. Many such cases.
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>>1377722
didnt trump run on 2016 building a wall and mexico was paying for it? then 2016-2020 crickets, but 2020-2024 it was floodgates.

you were lied to and believed it.
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>>1377721
Look I didn’t want to say it, but all this anger over blowing 800k just one time when the Democrats have done demonstrably worse with spending makes me think you’re just a lib pretending to be a Republican to drive a wedge between Trump and his supporters. I really don’t care how much it costs to remove every single illegal immigrant from this country because keeping America American is priceless.
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>>1377728
Biden tore down his wall and sold it
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>>1377725
8k seems to be an unsourced number, but the actual numbers aren't much better.

ICE testified in 2023 that removal flights for them cost 17k per hour. Assuming the migrants are being flown from Texas, that's a 12 hour total trip (around 6 there, 6 back). Which puts the price of an ICE flight, under Biden, as 204k.

Now, what Trump is currently using for deportation flights are c-17s and c-130Es. A c-17 costs about 21k per hour, while a c-130e costs about 70k per hour. Which means a c-17 would cost us 252k for the trip, aka about 50k more than the normal trips. The c-130e is even worse, clocking in at 840k, which is literally over four times as much as normal. We could literally pay for 4 normal ICE flights for the price of 1 c-130e flight, and yet we can't even deport the same amount of people. As per reports, these recent flights have had around 80 people on each of them. Normal ICE flight capacity in the past was 150 people. We're literally paying 4x as much for the same amount of deportees. At MINIMUM, since these rates for the military planes is just counting the price for fuel, while ICE's records would presumably include other expenses. Meaning they can be even more expensive.

In short: these flights are a fucking waste and the only reason for doing them would be for photo ops. It just is not cost efficient to use these aircraft for these purposes.
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>>1377729
>a lib pretending to be a Republican to drive a wedge between Trump and his supporters
You got that out of him? I interpreted his post as a salty lib concern trolling finding some way to bitch over being handed another L
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>>1377729
>but all this anger over blowing 800k just one time
>just one time
Unless Trump intends to only use these military planes once, it's not just one time lol.
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>>1377729
>800k

I assume that's 800k in 2025 dollars, and you should be outraged at democrats and they should apologize.
In 2001 a Republican president from Texas put us at war in the wrong country costing America 1 billion dollars, every 80 hours, for 20 years straight. Somehow that's fine.

800k of 1b is 00.08% btw. Dwell on that.
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>>1377732
Bro, ice still exists and still has their air services. You think these 2 military jets are the only two planes used to deport the thousands of illegals with criminal records?

No, they are just the 2 latched onto by the media to have something to bitch about.
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>>1377732
I honestly dont think ICE just shut down and stopped working. We are likely seeing additional flights being flown by the military in addition to whatever else is normally happening by ICE.
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>>1377733
Yeah, same thing I guess. I would assume their goal is to erode support for Trump’s deportation plans, and coming at from a “concerned Republican” angle would be the best way to do it.
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>>1377736
It isn't just two individual planes. They're using those two types as deportation aircraft now. Multiple of them.

And even then, this is still a massive waste of money.
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>>1377738
>I would assume their goal is to erode support for Trump’s deportation plans, and coming at from a “concerned Republican” angle would be the best way to do it.
Wouldn't surprise me, I have seen someone posting on this board who does that, just very very poorly. I think the person complaining about the cost of deporting illegals on military planes isn't doing that tho, I really think they are just trying to find something to complain about.
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>>1377736
>>1377739
not either of these anons but i just see this as very step 1 of a propaganda machine that becomes a monster.
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>>1377739
Yeah it's probably many I agree. I have no doubt ICE is running full flights back to back and the military ordered to help them fly more out of the county.

Really sucks that Biden put the country in this position tho
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>>1377736
>>1377737
They're being used in addition to ICE. However, this is also said to be a new daily use case and with the deployment, probably involves at least a dozen aircraft being used.
>https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing/trump-administration-orders-military-aircraft-to-support-border-crackdown/161495.article

Meanwhile, please explain to me how this isn't a massive waste of money compared to just using the same funds required for this to just purchase additional commercial aircraft for the same purpose?
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>>1377735
Yeah, and Obama continued his costly wars. You can’t really lump Trump with Bush or any other Republican, because he is truly a game changer in the Republican party. After all, Trump was the one to finally put an end to that war.
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>>1377681
>>1377682
>>1377683
Lol, what is this drivel? It has everything: Chomsky, a genealogy of oppressed peoples, historical fabrications, Bolívar, cool blacks, cool Muslims, and a call to unite like in John Lennon’s song Imagine. Reads like something an angsty female undergrad would write. How am I supposed to take this country seriously when we throw them a softball like “here, take your people back” and this is the response. Truly a Third Worldest Manifesto.
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>>1377744
He ended the Iraq war, you fool. But unfortunately he listened to the warhawks on Afghanistan, an impossible place to nation build.
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>>1377753
No one was talking about the Iraq war. Guy specifically brought up 2001, which was the start of the Afghan War. Why am I the fool?
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>>1377755
>Obama continued his costly wars
Who is "his" and what "wars" then?
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>>1377756
Obama was a shit president and we got two more wars in Libya and Syria because of him. Get over it. No new wars under Trump though.
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>>1377605 (OP)
Trump successfully negotiated an unlimited lifetime return policy for Colombians

A looming trade war between the US and Colombia appears to have been averted after the Colombian government agreed to allow US military flights carrying deported migrants to land in the Andean country.

The spat erupted on Sunday when President Gustavo Petro barred two military planes carrying Colombians deported from the US from landing.

The Trump administration responded by threatening to slap punitive tariffs on Colombian exports to the US.

President Petro at first said Colombia would retaliate by imposing tariffs on US goods, but the White House later announced that Colombia had agreed to accept migrants - including those arriving on US military aircraft - "without limitation or delay".

The White House hailed the agreement with Colombia as a victory for Trump's hard-line approach, after the country's two leaders had exchanged threats on social media on Sunday.

"Today's events make clear to the world that America is respected again," White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt wrote in a statement.
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>>1377759
The Colombian president folded like a lawn chair
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>>1377760
Also, wasn’t the Colombian president caught on camera on a date with a tranny escort a while back? I’m seeing this video get traction again, and I distinctly remember seeing it a year or so ago and I remember people alleging that it was him, but didn’t care to look into it back then.

https://xcancel.com/itsJohnRocker/status/1883677268075295120
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do the shills not get paid unless they bring up transexuals in every thread? It's all so nonsensical
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>>1377818
I think being a tranny or tranny-chaser is indicative of bad character, and it puts into perspective the kind of man Columbia's president is. Before I would have thought him to be a hot-headed strong-man, thinking he could get away with refusing the US like this. Now I see he’s just a delusional faggot.
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>>1377677
His point still stands
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>>1377823
i think you're not a very slick shill
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Donald "The Don" Trump - 1
Gustavo "President Fold-Up Chair" Petro - 0
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>>1377840
We have to see what the next deportation flight looks like first. If it's a non-military plane, we folded. If it's a military plane, they folded.
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>>1377843
>If Colombia takes back its illegal immigrants then they folded.
>But if Colombia takes back its illegal immigrants then we folded.
I hope this is satire.
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>>1377847
Their entire demand was literally just "Don't use military planes". They never had an issue with the deportees themselves, only the way they were being treated and this was being presented.
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>>1377850
And they got that demand for the first flight back.
Of course thats why all these shills are desperately trying to spin this as a Trump victory.
He folded 100% like a bitch, and the world saw.
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>>1377843
>. If it's a non-military plane, we folded
What the fuck are you talking about?
Every plane load of criminals being sent back home is a win for America.
I've already told you, nobody cares what style of plane flew them in except demotards acting like a military plane is some sort of gotcha.
Literally nobody who wants them gone cares, whatsoever.

Your think tank gave you some point to argue that nobody cares about.
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>>1377847
No, it's not. Hes a literal retard. His brain does not work like that of a reasonable person.

He was just arguing that we should use commercial flights because they are cheaper. Now he says we should use military flights because reasons.

The person you are arguing with has mental health issues.
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>>1377852
>I've already told you, nobody cares what style of plane flew them in except demotards acting like a military plane is some sort of gotcha.
Except the president of Colombia you fucking moron. That was the entire original issue; he didn't like us using military transports for this because it degrades colombian citizens. That was the entire problem; he had no issues with us deporting people back the way we have been for years now.

Literally the only thing we had to do to make him accept flights again was use the normal planes. And if we do start doing that, then we gave into his demands instead of him giving in to ours.
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>>1377853
Sending military flights is still retarded. But if we're allowed to keep doing it, that means Colombia backed down because their main request was to just stop using military planes for deportations. It wasn't "stop deporting", it wasn't "stop sending flights". It was literally just "don't use the military planes".

I still think using them is fucking stupid because they cost much more for the same amount of deportees per flight (if not less) and we shouldn't. Colombia's conditions to us are more to our benefit than Trump's conditions to them were. And Trump's conditions was basically "let me use the military planes anyway".
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>>1377855
>Except the president of Colombia you fucking moron.
Who the fuck cares? He's not the one chosing what type of airplane returns his criminals to him. It's military right now, it may be something else in the future, and his personal preferences literally do not matter whatsoever
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>>1377856
>. It was literally just "don't use the military planes".
Well too bad for him I guess. We are going to be using whatever we need to use to deport them, and apparently for the moment that is military planes.
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>>1377857
>>1377858
Well now we gotta see. Are we gonna keep using the stupid military planes our we going to return to using normal planes?

He was doing us a favor btw. Those military planes cost us way more to use for the trip. I find it so fucking funny that Trump will bitch on and on about how much keeping migrants costs us then spend shit tons more than he needs to in order to make a show out of deporting them. When if he actually cared about it, he'd get rid of them in the cheapest way possible so they can't cost us another cent more.
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>>1377855
>Literally the only thing we had to do to make him accept flights again was use the normal planes. And if we do start doing that, then we gave into his demands instead of him giving in to ours.
Your saying that if we ever send any future flight of illegals back to Colombia on any sort of airplane that isn't a military airplane then we've given into his demands?

Get the fuck out of here. We send them back using whatever we want, and it's already been demonstrated he has no say in the matter. Trump could send them back using a trebuchet and he can't do anything about it
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>>1377859
>Are we gonna keep using the stupid military planes our we going to return to using normal planes?
We probably already are using both planes. ice has their entire Air Service wing.

You really think as soon as Trump took over every normal air operation we were using just suddenly stopped and it all turned military?

No way in hell. The military was deployed, they're lending assistance in addition to what has always been used, and this military assistance is what's getting news attention because it's unusual
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>>1377859
>Those military planes cost us way more to use for the trip.
Source?
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>>1377860
I'm saying if we stop sending military planes, yeah we fucking did. And honestly, we should, because the military planes are much more expensive.
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>>1377732
>>>1377862
It's basic math. We know how much it takes to fly some of these planes per hour. We know how much normal ICE deportation flights cost because they testified to it in congress. If we compare the hourly fuel prices of the planes Trump had recommissioned for deportation flights to the numbers ICE themselves gave for their normal deportation flights, the military planes waste a fuckton more money for the same results.
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>>1377866
>It's basic math.
So post the math.
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>>1377861
I'm saying these military planes are retarded.

Would you recommend recommissioning military trucks to supplement normal truckers, even though those trucks are far less fuel efficient for the same amount of transport? Fuck no. Same logic here.
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>>1377867
It's in the other post I linked.

To summarize:
>Official ICE numbers for cost per hour of transport on their usual planes: 17k
>Cost per hour for flying a c-17: 21k
>Cost per hour for flying a c-130e: 70k

These all carry the same amount, if not less in the case of the c-17 and c-130e, of deportees. By using military planes, especially the c-130e, we're wasting thousands for the same results, solely so Trump can make photo-ops out of it.
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>>1377865
>If we deport criminals with military planes, drumpf looses!
>If we deport criminals with non-military planes, drumpf looses!
This is such an odd faggoty contratian argument to make, and quite frankly, it's not effective, you should tell your think-tank that.

67% of Americans want criminal aliens deported. It's happening, whether Colombia's president wants it or not.

And pro tip, he has no say in how they get shipped back to his country

Deal with it shill
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>>1377869
>solely so Trump can make photo-ops out of it.
Do you honestly think ICE stopped all of their air operations? Or do you think it's possible they may be at capacity given the current executive strategy?
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>>1377869
>solely so Trump can make photo-ops out of it.
Nobody's making a big deal about it except leftards tho. And the president of Columbia I guess
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>>1377871
Yes, because we either a. bowed down to another country's demands, or b. are continuing to waste money on deportees.

This whole plan was fucking stupid in the first place.
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>>1377872
No, but you know what would've been better for this? Recommissioning more fucking civilian planes instead if they truly needed more actual planes. If trump hadn't started this, they would've been deported on normal planes instead.

Even the argument that "oh, but now they have these deportation planes also flying!" doesn't work. There's only so much airspace and chartered flights. Having more planes doesn't make things go any faster because individual airports only have so many slots and routes they can spare at once.
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>>1377873
Glad to see you support more money being spent on migrants instead of being used elsewhere.

I'm actually fairly certain the price of flying them with a c-130e actually exceeds the price of keeping the same amount of deportees in US custody for another day.
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>>1377875
>No, but you know what would've been better for this? Recommissioning more fucking civilian planes instead if they truly needed more actual planes
Ok cool, more shit for you to complain about, yay. what else is new.

I actually support the US government deporting them using land transportation as well. Id actually prefer it if the US government paid for formula 1 race cares to drive them as fast as possible back to wherever it is they came from before they illegally crossed the border here and then started committing whatever additional crimes they were convicted of that is now causing them to be deported
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>>1377877
>I'm actually fairly certain the price of flying them with a c-130e actually exceeds the price of keeping the same amount of deportees in US custody for another day.
If you actually care about cost optimization, you would have been against them being illegally let over the border to begin with, that would have been even less expensive
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>>1377878
Ok let's say we had a way to instantly warp deportees back to their home countries. BUT, each time you use it, it actually costs the same amount of money that would've been spent deporting them the normal way, including everything spent on them while in US custody, times 2. Would you use that warp system?

If you would, you're a fucking hypocrite who cares more about theatrics than the actual costs of illegal immigration.
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>>1377605 (OP)
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Wait, I just remembered cocaine isn't legal so it's not taxed.
I'll survive this easily.
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>>1377875
>There's only so much airspace and chartered flights. Having more planes doesn't make things go any faster because individual airports only have so many slots and routes they can spare at once.
Yet another argument in favor of repatriating them with a trebuchet
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>>1377879
Yeah anon, if we could've stopped ourselves from having to spend any money on them, that would've been even better. So please explain how that somehow makes it better to waste even more money on them then we need to?

This is like punishing someone for breaking into your house by not just replacing what they stole, but also tossing another 10k of your own money into a furnace. Yeah you really showed them.
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>>1377884
You’re a libtard.
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>>1377914
You know I'm right and this whole stunt has been a massive waste of money and resources. And either it continues to be a waste, or we immediately caved to their demands.

Trump put us in a lose lose situation where the only options are hurting ourselves or looking like a bitch.
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>>1377924
Fuck off retard. We wouldn't be in this predicament if not for biden's wildly unpopular and disastrous open borders stunt
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>>1377929
keep lying and it'll come true right shill anon
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>>1377924
What our enemies think of us is irrelevant. The mission is to deport illegals. Colombia’s actions briefly hindered that mission, but now that hinderance is out of the way. The mission will continue as before. In fact, Trump has just decided that we aren’t currently deporting fast enough, and has now ordered Ice to go harder.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/01/26/ice-arrests-raids-trump-quota/
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>>1377933
This. Your arguing with a bad faith concern shill tho. That dude is so buttmangled that trump is deporting illegal aliens convicted of additional crimes that he's acting like he doesn't like for some sort of fiscal reason
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>>1377933
we're deporting illegals because they cost us resources that should go to US citizens. We're actively giving up more resources to them through using these military planes. We're still losing you retard.
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>>1377940
>short term thinking
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>>1377939
Why are we spending thousands more than we need to on them anon? The deportation aspect is fine. The fact we're spending far more on them via these military plane stunts than we need to is the problem.

FFS, part of what Trump got elected on was getting rid of unnecessary spending. Except he turned around and introduced MORE unnecessary spending by making us deport them with expensive military planes. We're actively increasing the amount each individual illegal costs the US.
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>>1377941
it's funny how you love supplicating to the billionaires who hire illegals but you think cyclically getting rid of them after they benefit the elite will fix the problem
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>>1377944
Removing all illegal immigrants from this country will lower housing costs, and raise wages for American citizens.
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>>1377946
you think less than minimum wage earning immigrants are buying houses? LOL
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>>1377946
Does the Heritage Foundation give you guys health care coverage?
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>>1377946
How? Illegals aren't the ones buying up housing. And they're definitely not the ones hiring themselves or having h1b1 employees come in en-mass.
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>>1377948
“Housing costs” includes rent as well as home ownership. And if we do deport all illegal immigrants, then a minimum wage might just be able to get you a new house, yes.
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>>1377951
you just might be a dumb faggot talking out of your ass. wait, that's a definite yes
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>>1377952
You’re blackpilled if you think it’s not possible.
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>>1377951
> then a minimum wage might just be able to get you a new house, yes.
Minimum wage, as it is right now, cannot afford a fucking apartment in half the US. The only way that will happen is with an increase of it. Housing prices will not go down.
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>>1377953
Housing prices have been going up for years while minimum wage has stayed the same that whole time. The literal only way minimum wage becomes able to buy a house is if we enter a massive recession... and even then, decent chances enough houses have been bought up by investors it just turns into no one having a house and everyone renting for the foreseeable future.
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>>1377954
Did you not read how I said wages will increase when all illegal immigrants are deported? And how rent will go down because there’s less demand (from illegals who are now deported) allowing you to afford a place?
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>>1377956
you don't read, you just say stupid shit that can be disregarded
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>>1377956
lol that's not how it works. Wages won't go up because they were already being paid below minimum wage in the first place. And illegals aren't the ones buying up property and jacking up rent prices.

Deporting every illegal in the country at once will literally have 0 effect on either of these.
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>>1377955
Well all you liberals have been telling me that Trump would usher in a recession, so I guess you might get a chance to afford a home if that happens. But in all seriousness, illegals go out, cost of labor go up, demand for housing go down—it’s a net benefit to the American worker.
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>>1377959
>demand for housing go down
Are you getting paid to ignore that illegals aren't buying houses and billionaires are, or are you just being stupid for free?
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>>1377959
Illegals are already being paid below minimum wage you fucking moron. And they're not the ones causing a housing shortage.
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>>1377959
you really suck at math anon. did you know the cost of labor is included in the cost of building homes?
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>>1377960
Are you ignoring the reality that illegal immigrants occupy a physical space in this country? And it’s more like, billionaires are buying houses to then turn into rentals for illegals. Houses which could have been bought by an American. But you can’t think one step ahead, you just think the billionaires by the houses for no reason other than fuck you.
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>>1377963
so your goal is to help billionaires by perpetuating a cycle of immigration and deportation instead of fixing the root of the issue
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>>1377964
No, I don’t want any illegals in the country. How do you arrive to that conclusion?
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>>1377963
>And it’s more like, billionaires are buying houses to then turn into rentals for illegals
Are you actually retarded? They're buying them to rent to anyone because they can make shit tons of money off it, because then it becomes the only way to have a house at all.
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>>1377966
Yeah, they can rent to anyone like you say, and that still includes illegals, and if one illegal get’s a place, then that’s one American who’s missing out. So what are you even trying to say?
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>>1377965
well if it was that simple you could've just admitted your xenophobia anon, you don't have to add any pseudoscience
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>>1377967
That American still isn't owning a house you retard. That's the real problem. That's literally what YOU were complaining about.
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>>1377968
I’m not xenophobic, my family were immigrants, and we did things right and earned our place. Illegals do not deserve a thing if they don’t want to abide by our laws.
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>>1377970
Your family likely got on a boat and got off a boat instead of the bureaucratic hell that immigration is today.
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>>1377969
I never said that it was a good thing and I support it. You are making a lot of assumptions.
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>>1377968
Yeah I gotta say anon, not wanting people who are by definition in the country illegal does not make someone xenophobic.

I fully support legal immigration. I'm totally ok with making it easier to immigrate here legally as well, and I don't care where the person is from.

What I do care about is maintaining an organized process that doesn't let people enter illegally, and then stay here indefinitely because they defensively claimed asylum after they were caught illegally entering, and I *definitely* dislike how that strategy is abused by criminals who come here and break more laws.
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>>1377974
nigga stop lying
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>>1377974
IMO we should just make it immigration easier. Even if you're here without proper channels, you follow the long for long enough, do no crimes, and your money is being spent within the US means it should be easier to make you just a proper citizen.
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>>1377971
That sounds like a “you” problem, and a foreigner like you doesn’t get a vote in how this country operates. Sorry you can’t come in.
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>>1377979
>Fuck you I got mine
Terrible mindset to have.
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>>1377981
unfortunately america perpetuates it, and why wouldn't a bunch of thieves who got away with it feel such a way
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>>1377981
>let everyone in the world in
That’s not sustainable, and would (and is) destroying this country. I’m sorry but you can’t come in.
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>>1377983
anon we all know you're the foreign shill
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>>1377984
I feel hurt, you always used to call me the foreign shill, and I thought we had something special, but now you're calling him the foreign shill. What am I supposed to think about this? All that time we spent together is now just for nothing? Like it's just a page in in a book you just decided to tear up?
I won't stand for that, we actually mean something, you and I, don't you get it? You can't just drag some other anon off the street and start calling him a foreign shill, you're better than that. We're better than that. we had something special together, and we still can, I'll still take you back
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>>1377991
He says the same shit to everybody.
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>>1377616
Wrong administration there buddy.



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