>>1391657 (Cont)
When the court resumed, Reyes pointed out that one study Hegseth had relied on to demonstrate that transgender service members hurt troop readiness and weaken their unit, actually concluded the exact opposite. The study found that transgender service members were more deployable, and experienced fewer lapses in their service than those diagnosed with depression, who were not automatically excluded from service.

But that wasn’t all. As Reyes went through each of the findings cited in the ban, she found that “virtually every” one contradicted support for Hegseth’s policy, according to Cheney.

Reyes asked the DOJ lawyer why she should defer to Hegseth’s blatant “cherrypicking” and providing “misleading” analysis.

In a brief memo filed in court on February 10, Hegseth directed the military to stop integrating new recruits “with a history of gender dysphoria” and to pause “planned medical procedures associated with affirming or facilitating a gender transition.” The policy wouldn’t affect the estimated 9,000 to 14,000 transgender individuals currently serving the military.

Later in February, as part of a complaint the Pentagon filed against Reyes, accusing her of “misconduct,” indicating potential bias in the case, an internal Pentagon memo was revealed that pushed the ban even further.

>>1391658
Hegseth’s policy notes that transgender service members “may be considered for a waiver on a case-by-case basis, provided there is a compelling Government interest.”

To obtain an exemption, a soldier must demonstrate “stability” in their sex for 36 consecutive months, demonstrate that they have never attempted to transition to any sex other than their sex, and be willing to adhere to any standards associated with their sex, according to Fox News.

Hegseth’s memo followed Trump’s executive order revoking a Biden-era policy allowing transgender service members in the military. “Consistent with the military mission and longstanding DoD policy, expressing a false ‘gender identity’ divergent from an individual’s sex cannot satisfy the rigorous standards necessary for military service,” the order said.

OTHER SOURCES:
>https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/is-that-really-how-you-think-this-all-works-outraged-judge-repeatedly-mocks-doj-lawyers-tears-into-them-for-being-unprepared-during-hearing-on-transgender-military-ban/
>https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-pauses-military-trans-ban-170754798.html
>https://www.abccolumbia.com/2025/03/12/federal-judge-grills-government-attorney-over-pentagons-handling-of-transgender-service-members/

>tfw it doesn't matter and troons stay banned from the military
Womp womp

>The study found that transgender service members were more deployable, and experienced fewer lapses in their service than those diagnosed with depression, who were not automatically excluded from service.
Astonishing this report actually attempts to classify troons and people with depression as separate entities. There's no such thing as a non-depressed troon anymore than there's such a thing as a troon without a porn addiction.

>>1391660
>Astonishing this report actually attempts to classify troons and people with depression as separate entities.
Apparently you didn't read it either.

Only a troon would voluntarily sign up to fight for Israel. Therefore, all military personnel are troons.

>>1391664
>he thinks troons all don't inherently have depression
>YOU HAVE TO WEEED DA WEPOWT
Lol, get discharged troon

>>1391669
>>YOU HAVE TO WEEED DA WEPOWT
Actually you do. Hence why they just got shot down in court. Turns out presenting evidence to prove you're not just discriminating is like, very important to creating additional rules for military service. Especially when the evidence you do cite actually goes AGAINST your point.

>>1391673
So what will you do when the ban gets upheld, cry about it on /news/ some more?

>>1391685
Maybe if they want it to get upheld they should cite sources to back it up lol. For people who go on and on about "biological reality" you don't seem to actually care for any serious examination of how said reality impacts someone's ability to serve.

>>1391686
You could have just said "yes".

>>1391660
So what you're claiming then is that being trans improves readiness? Since trans+depression is more deployable than just depression?

>>1391660
>There's no such thing as a non-depressed troon anymore than there's such a thing as a troon without a porn addiction.
Lol, troonphobiacs hate themselves for fapping to troon porn

>>1391668
Many if not most sign up for health insurance. You've got a very twisted view of reality if you think people are signing up explicitly to enter combat

Why would we recruit people that are make it publicly known that they have a propensity to switch sides?

>>1391695
This operates under the assumption trans people are all depressed, which I know you retards believe but also isn't true.

In fact, let's assume it was for a moment. Since the studies compared them to cis people with depression, it actually means trans soldiers deal with it better than cis ones.

>>1391729
Okay honest question here. If trans people deal with depression better than straight people, why do 46% of them commit suicide?

>>1391723
Should the military start going after bisexuals too?
How about the literal nazis like the ones in the 1st Reconnaissance Battalion?

>>1391730
Social rejection does tend to lead to high suicide rates you retard. Something the judge herself brings up in this very article when Hegseth tried to use it in court.

Also, just using the studies the DoD used lol. The ones they didn't read before trying to use them as sources.

Threadly reminder there are less than 500 post op trannies out of 1.25 million active duty service members in the military.

>>1391756
the republican party can't survive without boogiemen blown comically out of proportion

>>1391673
They're not discriminating. They're banning mentally ill people from service

>>1391756
>Post op
How many pre op?

>>1391763
there's at least two trans-obsessed schizos on this board

>>1391763
you tell us, it's your obsession

>>1391760
Then start with the depressed. Their own study said depressed people were less fit for service than trans people.

If you hate trans people then why wouldn't you want them joining the military and getting shot? I've never understood this.

>>1391772
They pick non-combat roles so they can coast and get the government/taxpayer to fund their tranny surgeries and pills

>>1391793
As opposed to all the non-trannies who pick non-combat roles so they can coast and get the government/taxpayer to fund their whatever the fuck.

>>1391730
>why do 46% of them commit suicide?
Persecution. You'll note that that rate is lower in more accepting countries.

Basically what I'm saying is if you tell someone to kill themself enough, they might actually do it. You see this in other places where people are treated like dirt, e.g. the military.

This is why I can't take transphobes seriously. You try to use the suicidality of people you actively encourage to kill themselves against them. The problem isn't trans people. It's you. The world would be better off without you.

>>1391808
The fuck? A sensible anon? On this board?

>>1391813
I'm sure they're only passing through.

>>1391730
>why do 46% of them commit suicide?
They are deeply self-conscious and narcissistic. They believe that they can only be accepted by society if they can meet their own unrealistic standards of beauty, which in this case means looking like peak Marilyn Monroe or Hugh Jackman.

This is obviously impossible for the vast majority of people, but they still crave the validation that those types of people are given. This is why so many trannies try to cooerce the speech of other people. It's not enough for them to take hormones, dress as the opposite sex, have surgery etc. they need other people to buy into that delusion too. And if they aren't given that validation they kill themselves, because the alternative means torturing themselves every time they look in a mirror.

The whole "I was born in a different body" talking point is bullshit. They don't know what it's like to experience life as the opposite sex because they have only existed in a single body. They're just riding off of the Civil Rights movement by using the same arguments the Otherkin did.

>>1391824
>It's narcissistic to want to feel comfortable in your own skin

>>1391832
>"I am a dragon. I want you to treat me like a dragon, talk to me as if I was a dragon, and I want a special dragon bathroom so I can feel more comfortable in my own skin. Otherwise I'm going to kill myself."
>"What do you mean I can't teach your kids that they can be dragons too? That's draco-phobic."
Yeah you're not alright.

>>1391838
Put that strawman down and have some empathy for a fellow human being. If you see some guy going around with long hair you're not going to insist on calling them she/her even after they correct you.

>>1391843
>empathy
You're asking me to tell a lie on your behalf. That's not empathy.

>>1391846
It's a lie they want to be referred to by she/her instead of he/him? You trying to insist you know the random trans woman better than they know themselves? Pretty narcissistic of you anon.

>>1391824
>They don't know what it's like to experience life as the opposite sex because they have only existed in a single body.
>Anyway, let me tell you exactly what trannies think, despite never experiencing life as one.
Unless you’re saying you are trans. That would be funny.

>>1391843
>have some empathy for a fellow human being.
You’re asking a lot.

>>1391838
How many dragon specific bathrooms have you seen outside of delusions?

>>1391847
Yes. Because you will never be a woman.

>>1391851
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otherkin
>Otherkin is a subculture of people who identify as partially or entirely nonhuman. Some otherkin believe their identity derives from non-physical spiritual phenomena, such as having a nonhuman soul or reincarnation. Some otherkin give non-spiritual explanations for themselves, such as unusual psychology or neurodivergence, or as part of dissociative identity disorder or multiplicity. Many otherkin say they are physically human.

>>1391800
>to fund their whatever the fuck.
their living expenses. as opposed to trannies using taxpayer money to fund their frivolous cosmetic surgeries. might as well allow military medical benefits to fund hair transplants and boob jobs too.

>>1391866
so zero?
only a tourist would explain furries on 4chan

>>1391867
So, this line of thought leads to one of two conclusions:
>Somehow trans people don't also having living expenses
>Somehow non-trans military members have no other things they want to spend money on and dedicate their entire paycheck to essentials

Personally I believe all trans people should be drafted immediately, and deployed to Ukraine.

>>1391879
They can find any other job to fund their living expenses, not a job where they can take advantage of government benefits and force the taxpayer to pay for a cosmetic boob job and castration

>>1391867
>might as well allow military medical benefits to fund hair transplants and boob jobs too.
Uh NTA, the military already does this. If you can get a doctor to sign off, females can get boob jobs to "help with depression". Cosmetic surgeries are an option for active duty.

>>1392021
See >>1392022

It's fine when a cis guy gets his jawline corrected or a hair transplant, but god forbid a trans person serve in the military and get benefits to help their body.

As far as I'm concerned if you're willing to serve the country should take care of you. Some people need more support than others, and this is true for cis guys in the military too.

>>1392033
Do you retards even know how hard it is to get the VA to cover basic shit
Goddamn trannies just making shit up

>>1392060
you have a job only faggots would take. how much does it pay anyways

>>1392060
>It's really hard to get the VA to cover basic shit but somehow trans people can get an entire transition without issue

Bamp.