This week, in his first in-depth interview since Trump returned to the presidency, Dans effectively confirmed what Democrats were saying all along and Trump himself denied: There really is almost no difference between Project 2025 and what Trump was planning all along and is now implementing. And if the White House were to call, he’d be glad to get back on the team.

“It’s actually way beyond my wildest dreams,” Dans said. “It’s not going to be the easiest road to hoe going forward. The deep state is going to get its breath back. But the way that they’ve been able to move and upset the orthodoxy, and at the same time really capture the imagination of the people, I think portends a great four years.”

This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

So as it turns out, the Trump administration’s program and Project 2025 seem to be one and the same. True?

I’m not saying that. I’m saying that directionally, they have a lot in common, but so do great minds. We had hoped, those of us who worked putting together Project 2025, that the next conservative president would seize the day, but Trump is seizing every minute of every hour. I’m not sure that you’d be able to implement Project 2025 without Donald Trump’s ability to bring people together and Elon Musk’s ability to focus the direction of the work.

In other words, what’s being implemented now is Project 2025, for the most part. But that was the issue brought up during the campaign, when Trump said he had nothing to do with Project 2025. Did the president not tell the truth?

He absolutely told the truth. Project 2025 was done outside of President Trump. It was done by the conservative movement to really say, “This is what we believe in. This is what we want to see in the next conservative president.”

You’ve said this agenda goes back much further than Trump — you wanted to attack the federal administrative state that you view as populated by liberals, one that started more than 100 years ago under Woodrow Wilson.

Well, that’s right. We are going on our 250th birthday here in a little over a year from now. And the last 100 years have been a great diversion from the enduring constitutional structure of this great American experiment in democracy. That is, we needed to undertake a restoration of democracy by slamming the door shut on the Progressive Era. What happened dating back to FDR, but even before that with Wilson, was a way of thinking that an expert class would superintend life for the rest of us, that the common man didn’t have the sense to rule his own destiny. The entire artifice of the federal government had been built over the last 100 years in essentially a very anti-democratic manner.

Our Constitution vests the executive power squarely and solely in the president of the United States. And over the last 100 years, these encroachments on that power were not only unconstitutional, they were anti-democratic and lacking in moral legitimacy in the sense that the people vote every four years for a president to put forward new policy, and if his policies are being impeded by an unelected, unaccountable bureaucracy, that is a problem that needs reformation.
But that’s still very much at issue. You and your conservative colleagues are saying the president can do whatever he wants to federal agencies based on the “unitary executive theory” of the Constitution, and by seeking to overturn the Impoundment Control Act [which prevents the president from blocking congressional spending]. But doesn’t the president have to implement the policies passed by Congress even if he doesn’t agree with them?

I think what we’re engaging in is going to be a constitutional debate on the order of what happened in Philadelphia in the summer of 1787. We have designed the system so that each of these three independent branches have their own constitutional obligations, and when these overlap or collide is ultimately for the people to sort out. So this is a debate that needs to happen. The pendulum over the last 100 years has swung in a direction that’s been a major incursion on both the core executive branch authority, but also an abandonment of the responsibility of the legislature to do its work. In that span of time you’ve seen an activist judiciary step up and answer these questions. Is that really the ultimate equilibrium we should live with? I think that’s going to get played out through a national conversation and the court system.

As a lawyer yourself you’ve seen that the courts — even the Supreme Court — are pushing back against Trump in many cases and citing the very Constitution you say is being violated. Judges have blocked the freezing of foreign aid, for example, programs under USAID, and the way that many employees, including probationary employees, have been dismissed.

I don’t put much stock in those district court opinions. The left has forum-shopped to find courts willing to make ultra vires [lacking legal authority] expansions of their jurisdiction. It’s a dangerous precedent that delegitimizes the federal court system. One federal judge can’t come in and push the secretary of the Treasury aside and say this court knows better how to do your job than you do. To do that and hamstring the president is a naked usurpation of power. A federal court and its three law clerks cannot usurp the power granted to the president, and we are nearing a point when this will need to be resolved.

Trump and his team have talked a lot about exposing fraud, waste and abuse, but we haven’t seen much evidence of that. What we’ve mostly seen evidence of is attacking so-called DEI (“diversity, equality and inclusion”) programs. It looks very much like a political agenda.

Well, President Trump, for one, did a great recitation during the State of the Union address of really indefensible expenditures of money. Many examples were from USAID. He also spoke about some of the recent findings examining Social Security recipients and determining whether there may be illicit payments going to people with ages of over 140 years old. This along with what’s been unearthed in the Treasury Department with trillions of dollars of expenditures not being properly tagged, proves that the system is built in a way that, by intention, no one can understand, and none of the money is really traceable. But the irony of now is that with the advent of AI and technicians like Elon Musk, we are, for the first time, getting a holistic view of the government.
But what Trump said has been largely debunked. There simply are not millions and millions of fraudulent payments going out to people who are dead or too old, based on the Social Security Administration’s own 2023 Inspector General report and other reports. It seems as if Trump was exaggerating or falsifying the record.

I don’t believe that’s true at all. What DOGE uncovered is that the fundamental controls in the financial system aren’t there. That is trillions of dollars flowing out of the Treasury without the elemental tagging being done to them. Same at Health and Human Services. Ditto Social Security. Therefore there’s absolutely no way to audit this system.

I’m talking specifically about how much fraud there might be in Social Security payments. There’s no evidence to back up what Trump was saying.

I don’t know one way or the other. I get second-hand reports as you do.

You worked at the Office of Personnel Management in the last year of the first Trump administration — essentially the human resources department of the federal government. And that then became a sort of ground zero for Musk’s DOGE effort. Did you anticipate this might play out that way?

At Project 2025, we published the source code to the deep state. And we pointed the way. We said the motherboard of this whole thing lies in the obscure agency called OPM [the Office of Personnel Management]. And why is that? Because personnel is policy. If the president wants to deliver on the promises made to the American people, it all turns on the staff beneath him.

It looks as if the president is signing, or is about to sign, an executive order to eliminate the Department of Education, which has just gutted its workforce. That was another big target of yours.

It’s been an historic target of the conservative movement from the time it was stood up. The original 1980 volume of Mandate for Leadership called for its abolition. The damage done by the federalization of education — you can’t argue with the results — America earns a failing grade. I myself am the product of K-through-12 public education, and my mother being a public-school teacher, my mother-in-law being the same, you’re not going to find a bigger advocate for public education. But that said, the declining test scores, the poor literacy rate — it’s just not working.

Why is the DOE to blame for that? I mean, state and local boards of education are still primarily responsible for these schooling standards, not the federal government.

My understanding is that a lot of what state and local governments face are unfunded mandates and directions from the Department of Education. They don’t comply, they get money taken away from them. They’re between a rock a hard place having to live up to this centralized direction from Washington. And I think that when you relieve them of that, certainly they will step up and do their job.
It must be tough for you to be on the outside looking in. Do you regret having criticized Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita last summer?

Well, as Frank [Sinatra] would say, regrets I’ve had a few, but then again, too few to mention.

Are there places where you think they are going too far too fast? Some of the analysis in the new Mandate for Leadership, the bible of Project 2025, was more nuanced. In the chapter you co-wrote, for example, “Managing the Bureaucracy,” you concluded that careful reform of merit pay was needed — and you even lauded Jimmy Carter’s attempted reforms.

I used to give a speech where I started with a riddle that said, “What happens when you combine a GS-14 with a GS-11?” [General Schedule payscales for federal workers rated from one to 15.] And the answer was me. That is, my parents came to Washington, and they were the best of a generation in the 1960s, the first in their families to go to college. And they met at the National Institutes of Health. So I’ve always grown up with great reverence, if you will, for federal employees, and I do think that there’s always going to be a call for the best and the brightest to work in the United States government.

That said, the system’s been derailed over the last 30 years, and there has been a great breakdown in its efficiency and quality of output, but also in the ability to control it and limit itself in terms of growth. That is, it’s a self-perpetuating blob, if you will.

But going back to what you said about your parents, do you feel that some federal employees are being treated badly here? People are getting notices saying they’re being dismissed for incompetence when they had just received in the past year very good assessments from the superiors. Isn’t there some unfairness here?

Well, sure, in specific cases, there may be. But I think you have to look at the system as a whole. It’s just gone so haywire. When the civil service was stood up, 10 percent of the jobs were consecrated to these protections [prevented from dismissal except for just cause or poor performance]. Fast forward to today 100 years later, nearly 99.5 percent of positions are subject to those civil service protections. Further, the performance appraisal system is broken. Fully 99.7 percent of the federal workforce receives annual performance reviews stating they are performing “fully successfully” or better. This just can’t be. Certainly there is no such analog in the private sector.
Let’s go into some examples where there seems to be divergence between Project 2025 and what Trump and Musk are doing. Your chapter on USAID recommended serious reforms but it also talked about all the benefits that USAID brought, particularly in the soft power struggle with China. Now you have Musk saying USAID is nothing but a criminal organization and should be eliminated.

Project 2025 was really a resource guide to point the way to various problems and offer some solutions, all of which were only a menu that the next president could pick and choose from. Some of these agencies are so corrupted that you almost have to start anew. Many of the missions of these corrupted agencies are actually delegated from other agencies, so there is a possibility of restoring them to their original place and order. With respect to foreign aid, a lot of this could be done through the State Department, and will, I think in proper measure, continue to be done.

But Project 2025 didn’t call for the elimination of USAID, which is what [Secretary of State] Marco Rubio is apparently doing. Why not stand behind what you guys actually backed at the time — which was to strengthen USAID and restore those programs countering China?

I think they stand for the same proposition, which is fundamental reform. That’s what the people voted for in elections. You know what happened was USAID under Biden was a complete perversion of its mission. It became a mechanism for promotion of the progressive worldview: climate extremism, gender radicalism, abortion promotion. It’s just so inculcated in every aspect of what they were doing business wise, that it’s almost easier to start anew. So they’re transporting over a portion of it, resettling it in the State Department.

That’s been tried before. Andrew Natsios, who is a conservative Republican who ran USAID, said it’s not a good idea because USAID programs involve a lot of technical knowledge that State Department employees don’t have.

I can’t say. I haven’t opened up the hood of the place myself, personally, but I’m trusting in the administration and their assessment of it, and certainly, you know, under [Biden administration USAID director] Samantha Power, it was just a field day, and it’s run amok. You know what they did with fertilizer? Encouraging people to do away with chemical fertilizer ultimately impacted the cost of food. Which is which is having a negative impact on hunger.

Let’s go back to the 2024 political campaign, when you were pressured to resign last summer as Democrats attacked Project 2025. Didn’t the Trump campaign come to you at some point beforehand and say, “Cool it?”

Look, one thing that happened with Project 2025 was that we got caught in this maelstrom of misinformation, and at some point, the left decided that they were all in on Project 2025. That turned out to be one of the great political miscalculations of all time.

Do you think that looking back, you might have done more at Heritage to distance yourself from the Trump campaign the way, say, the America First Policy Institute under Brooke Rollins did by staying very quiet?

Fake news is going to be fake news. And, you know, going in and arguing with leftist misinformation agents on MSNBC is kind of a pointless endeavor, in my estimation. President Trump is the great communicator, and he was able to make those points strongly himself. And, that said, what we had hoped would happen has happened. So I can’t imagine how anything could end really any better.

Is there any way at all in which what Trump is doing is falling short or diverging from your original vision for Project 2025?

It’s actually way beyond my wildest dreams. It’s not going to be the easiest road to hoe going forward. The deep state is going to get its breath back here, but the way that they’ve been able to move and kind of upset the orthodoxy, and at the same time really capture the imagination of the people, I think portends a great four years.

Are you looking to get a job in the Trump administration now? Is this a job interview?

Well, I have a job. One is that I’m a father of four kids. Two, I’m an attorney. And three, the mission of this was always to get our government going in the right direction. So I just worked for two and a half years, really, without cessation to try to do my small bit to help move this entire ball forward. Should President Trump or his team need me, I will gladly answer the call.

I have to think you’d want to be in on implementing the agenda you were such a huge part of creating.

The race is long, you know? I always think that the election is just the starting gate. Look, this is going to go on even for multiple administrations. I do one day aspire to rejoin public service. So I would say, “Watch this space.”
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>>1392772
Deception deception deception. it's called the Art of War. A book that Trump admires and even expanded on in his best selling book the Art of the Deal. That's why the left is losing. You don't understand 5d chess the same way Donald Trump does. He's a genius at it, meanwhile leftists are still playing checkers. Obviously he knows what P2025 is, obviously he will work to enact P2025, strategically withholding the truth to keep the enemy guessing was always part of the plan, as detailed in chapter 2 of The Art of the Deal. That's another problem with the left, they hate Trump so much they refuse to read TAOTD, when really they should be learning from it if they want a chance at beating him.

but whatever you do, don't mention Project Esther.

MIGA

>>1392786
Trump didn't even write TAOTD. The guy who actually wrote it is now one of the biggest anti-trump Republicans.

>>1392786
Democrats weren't tricked so much as swing voters. If you're saying Democrats need to be even bigger hypocrites than Trump to beat him, that's really not humanly feasible. But they are in need of a vision that looks and sounds hopey and change-y.

>>1392811
Ok I'll bite. What's Project Esther?

>>1392847
>Project Esther is an effort by the American conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation to suppress what it classifies as antisemitism

>>1392786
the left are nepobabies that tried to campaign on the premise that trump is going to be the next hitler. Meanwhile they've been such insuffrable pieces of shits in the last decade that's turned into a literal reason to vote for trump to get them all executed.

>>1392824
democrats are the biggest hypocrites imaginable in every single culture war situation. the only people who pretend otherwise are the disgusting losers that spent the last decade in an echochamber. Funny how Jack dorsey is suddenly a champion of free speech after he sold twitter you're a party of gaslighting hypocrites that should all be terminated.

>>1392859
>tried to campaign on the premise that trump is going to be the next hitler.
They were 100% right

>>1392867
Trump's failing his campaign promise of creating incineration camps and reducation prisons.

>>1392870
Not really, the prisons have been privatized.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20250226902647/en/The-GEO-Group-Awarded-15-Year-Contract-by-U.S.-Immigration-and-Customs-Enforcement-for-Company-Owned-1000-Bed-Delaney-Hall-Facility-in-New-Jersey
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2025/01/22/trump-private-prisons-executive-order

>>1392872
too many prisons not enough furnaces. start hunting down people on reddit twitter bluesky ect that are domestic terrorist throw them into a furnace and be done with it why do americas gotta pay to house and feed criminals. Want to fix the economy then confiscate their possessions for the state to pay off the debt.
Leftists were the ones who started screeching about how words are violence, so most reddits should be charged with first degree assault on government employees if not outright treason

>>1392873
>Leftists were the ones screeching
I keep noticing this pattern where people trying to attack the left lump in the bots they saw on Bluesky and Twitter with actual democrat voters.

>>1392878
You remember how the far-left press took the most insane person they could find and pretend that guy represented everyone who wasn't a radical leftist. Then used the narrative of anyone who didn't vote for clinton may as well of voted for trump, ya well by that logic every democrat voter is represented by the most unhinged insane person on reddit. So please trump make a goddamn furnace to burn the trash you orange goddamn slobbering pig.

>>1392885
Are you the anon who think Politico and The Hill are far left?

>>1392898
one's started by two washingtonpost journos, the other is a Washington based outlet.
idk you tell me blue boy.

>>1392903
Bezos is Trump's boy now and I'm not a democrat.

>>1392906
sure he is, on one hand he tells washingtonpost not to endorse a candidate, on the other he donates 17million to a far-left super pac.

>>1392913
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-praises-jeff-bezos-makeover-of-the-washington-post/
President Donald Trump effusively praised Jeff Bezos’ makeover of The Washington Post during an interview on Sunday, a public turn from his past tirades against the Amazon founder over the paper’s reporting.

Trump said during an interview with Sinclair’s Sharyl Attkisson that he thought media outlets respected him more since his first term, though he didn’t think they had changed their approach to covering him.

He did concede that some tech companies—Facebook and Google, whose leaders stood next to him at the inauguration in January—had come around to him before singling out Bezos for how he was applying a conservative tilt to the Post.

Bezos announced last month the Post‘s opinion section would focus on “free markets and personal liberties,” two traditional conservative values that he claimed were “underserved in the current market of ideas and news opinion.”

“A guy like Bezos, I’ve gotten to know him, and I think he’s trying to do a real job,” Trump said. “Jeff Bezos is trying to do a real job with The Washington Post, and that wasn’t happening before."

>>1392913
They were told not to endorse Harris like they planned to.

>>1392920
>dailybeast
ok you far-left nazi. you deserve to get punched.
>>1392922
ya cause it was obvious kamala was goingto lose. The anon i was replying to thinks telling the post not to endorse her is the same as donating over 10 million to far-left democrat pacs.

>>1392922
told by whom?

>>1392925
The Daily Beast is directly quoting a Trump interview with Sharyl Attkisson. Here's a version so it doesn't trigger your partisan feefees.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-applauds-jeff-bezos-changes-washington-post-rare-media-praise

>>1392927
who buys this crap from anyone? are you seriously telling me washington post is a right-leaning publication because trump gives them his props. I'm not getting gaslit by you or the orange fuhrer, its a far-left propaganda outlet ran by nepobabies in the 2nd worst state of human beings second only to Californians. fuck DC and fuck Californians

>>1392937
>“A guy like Bezos, I’ve gotten to know him, and I think he’s trying to do a real job,” Trump said. “Jeff Bezos is trying to do a real job with The Washington Post, and that wasn’t happening before."
--Donald J. Trump

>Bezos announced in late February that the opinion page of the Washington Post would focus on "writing every day in support and defense of two pillars: personal liberties and free markets."

>>1392937
so you love billionaires now? rhetorical question by the way

>>1392940
Great maybe he should fire his far-left cult journalists first then.
>>1392944
Yes sure trump should legalized cannibalism so people like you can be put to some actual use, pampered nepobaby. People like you should be turned into canned food to feed the poor.

>>1392949
Not him but I herd u like nepotism
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/17/some-past-cincinnati-mayor-candidate-votes-might-surprise-you/81784409007/

>>1392949
the journalists aren't that far left, you have become so far right most people seem far left comparatively.

>>1392847
there are three main texts put out by Heritage Foundation:

1) Project 2025 was put online in mid 2023.
2) Dawn's Early Light, hgost written for JD Vance, was published by Heritage the day after last November's election.
3) Project Esther is on their website. Basically, any money we "save" in the budget is divvied up by the ruling US elite and Israel.

>>1392954
sure, they are the fact you think journalists that love to ruin people's lives on the basis of who they voted for are fine means ur part of the cult.
>>1392951
No i like american civil war and I want the far-left to be incinerated or turned into a thanksgiving dinner for the poor.

>>1392966
you like being a shill? you're always saying negative things so probably not eh

>>1392969
Oh please who am i shilling for? the incinerate and cook leftist cult group?

>>1392973
you're shilling for billionaires even though you're a sad little broke man. can you tell us why?

>>1392976
I'll shill for anyone who promises to destroy the far-left pissbabies. Will you run on that campaign promise and actually do it? i'll shill for you then.

>>1392983
>i'll shill
we know, you're about the most shameless one i've ever talked to. it's pathetic

>>1392986
sheesh, we have a real hannibal lecter here don't we. is cannibalism one of your fetishes too, sicko?

>>1392996
how else do you propose making use of leftist waste?

>>1392997
i dunno psychopath, you tell us. i'm sure your diseased brain has plenty of imaginative ideas

>>1392999
so you don't have a better solution but you insult me for coming up with one? wow what a selfish pathetic loser stop being jealous.

>>1392870
he outsourced that to El Salvador

>>1392983
My thoughts exactly. I'm not too concerned about the future of America as long as it upsets the left. Life goes on. Might as well concentrate on the tears to be mined. They were so cocky when they were in power. I'll never forget that. Oh, their downfall is sweet to behold.

>>1393020
better hope you don't get conscripted russia shill, the war still isn't over

>>1393027
you're get arrested and sent to guantanamo bay oh baby you gonna rot in jail.

>>1393057
you're pretty bad at emulating english speakers, you need a lot more practice

>>1392870
Well, Minnesotans are trying to classify TDS as a mental disease, so there's your opportunity for re-education camps. As for concentration camps? He took a page out of the globalist's playbook and offshored it to a shithole country. El Salvador's super-jail will be his concentration camp.
>>1392774
Before the Progressive Era, we were in a Great Depression caused by everyone acting like idiots. We barely had a Great Recession afterwards. I'd say FDR was right.
Also, it's impressive that conservatives are still seething about FDR all these years later.

>>1393068
>. El Salvador's super-jail will be his concentration camp.
Illegal to deport non El Salvadorians to El Salvador

>>1393096
>Illegal to deport non El Salvadorians to El Salvador
It really is a concentration camp move. Will all illegal S Americans be jailed there? Is tRump a war criminal? Biden why is El Salvador taking non-nationals?

>>1393097
Next will come any illegal alien, not just "gang members".

>>1393099
How do you know they haven't escalated to "anyone vaguely Venezuelan?"

The admin refusing to even give the names of the people they just threw straight into a foreign prison with no legal recourse to get out is pretty suspect.

>>1392983
>>1393020
Stop pretending to be American.

>>1393100
They are waiting for a judge somewhere to release the names so they can repost the unitary executive theory memes again. Even Stephen Miller was attacking immigration judges a few days ago.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-administration-ramps-rhetoric-targeting-courts-amid-mounting-119847768

>>1393111
Honestly it's more suspect they refuse to parade out a list of names and crimes than not. They're literally posting music videos of this shit but not listing how bad the criminals they just got off the street are?

>>1393068
>Also, it's impressive that conservatives are still seething about FDR all these years later.
Whatever comes after Trump is going to be much worse than FDR at the rate the pendulum is swinging.

>>1393232
>Whatever comes after Trump is going to be much worse than FDR at the rate the pendulum is swinging.
With the Democrat party having historically low approval rating and standing up websites doxxing Teslas owners and urging people to commit crimes against people who bought this brand of car, im sure public support must be swooning for Democrats right now amongst independents

>>1393235
"The public" are the people same people doxxing Tesla owners.

>>1393295
"The public" are the people with historically low approval ratings of the Democrat party.
"The leftwing terrorists" are the people doxxing innocent people because of the brand of car they own.

>>1393296
When did you become a retarded partisan?

>>1393296
>pretending a class war is actually a partisan political war
Does this work anywhere outside of social media?

I have nowhere to put this so I'll put it in this thread. I wish this was Trump running for president, with his focus on making American businesses thriving again, which I don't know if is sincere or not, but its what I want. I am not against globalism and I believe that we are a point where we need to accept certain things cannot be created in America. But there is in no way a reason for us to accept that we rely on basically slavery to create our food and clothes. That just does not make sense. And then when this is a closed door, the businesses go off shore to find the equivalent to said slavery.

I wish this was what Trump was basing his administration around. I wish he wasn't trying to become a dictator that lives for four years more years. He could become one of the greatest leaders easily if he just focused on what he promised instead of following Stephen Miller and Elon Musk. I wanted to like this man for what he proposed because an America that regulated this stupid crap is something I am 100% behind.

I don't see what the point of giving it to the oligarchs and leading us down to technofeudalism gets us. I don't see why we had to own the libs so hard we blow off our own knee caps. Frankly, I'd also rather Russia not decide how to lead the world.

>>1393661
>I wish this was Trump running for president, with his focus on making American businesses thriving again, which I don't know if is sincere or not, but its what I want.

Looks like it was almost 100% bullshit marketing slogans to lure voters.

>I am not against globalism and I believe that we are a point where we need to accept certain things cannot be created in America. But there is in no way a reason for us to accept that we rely on basically slavery to create our food and clothes

This is partly because businesses try to outdo each other at inventing new ways to make money. The consumer class can only be nickle-and-dime'd so much before the quality of life for workers declines like it's been doing for the last few decades. It's an inherent flaw in capitalism which previously the government tried to provide some meager protection for the poor, but that era is now over.

>I wish this was what Trump was basing his administration around. I wish he wasn't trying to become a dictator that lives for four years more years. He could become one of the greatest leaders easily if he just focused on what he promised instead of following Stephen Miller and Elon Musk.

Remember Trump is a real estate agent by trade. That's like barely one step above professional liars and politicians. Trump's entire professional life has been spent cultivating an image of being a successful businessman when in reality his business track record is horrible. The only thing Trump is really good at is being a con artist. He has always fucked over everyone in his business life who ever gave him the benefit of the doubt.

>don't see what the point of giving it to the oligarchs and leading us down to technofeudalism gets us. I don't see why we had to own the libs so hard we blow off our own knee caps.
The NRx technofeudalism nerds are merely using Trump as a means to an end. So are the thinktanks. Trump doesn't care as long as he can use the office to enrich himself and his family.

>>1392772
So they done lied.