The order calls on the attorney general to prioritize enforcement “to the fullest extent possible” of criminal and civil laws against flag burning that cause harm unrelated to the First Amendment.

Trump said the penalty for flag-burning would be one year in jail with no opportunity for early release.

The order also states that foreign nationals who burn the flag could face having their visas, residency permits, naturalization proceedings and other immigration benefits revoked. They could also be deported.

Trump said the court that ruled that flag burning is constitutionally protected was a “very sad court.”

“I guess it was a 5 to 4 decision. They called it freedom of speech,” the president said. “But there’s another reason, which is perhaps much more important. It’s called death.”

“Because what happens when you burn a flag is the area goes crazy,” Trump said. “If you have hundreds of people, they go crazy.”

>>1429478
Reminder that the official protocol for disposing of a US flag is to burn it.

>republicans
>"dont tread on me"

>republicans when trump does anything
>"tread on me harder daddy!"

>>1429480
Reminder that there is a difference between cremation and setting something on fire because you're mad. Objective reality exists.

>>1429479
>Trump said the court that ruled that flag burning is constitutionally protected was a “very sad court.”
>“I guess it was a 5 to 4 decision. They called it freedom of speech,” the president said. “But there’s another reason, which is perhaps much more important. It’s called death.”
>“Because what happens when you burn a flag is the area goes crazy,” Trump said. “If you have hundreds of people, they go crazy.”
This guy is fucking insufferable.

>>1429480
I bet you also burn your family members alive when you aren't pleased with their decisions

>>1429482
Yeah good luck proving that; fire is fire. There's a reason the Supreme Court ruled opposite.

The fact that he even acknowledged Texas v Johnson and said "Yeah, but fuck that I'm signing this EO anyway" is insane.
It will never happen in a million years, but I wish that a Democrat president would have the balls to be as lawless as Trump.
Constitution says I can't take gifts from foreign nations? Tough shit Qatar gave me a jet and I'm taking it with me when (if) I leave office.
People want the Epstein files? Fuck you I'll send my personal lawyer to talk to a convicted child rapist about it then transfer her to Club Fed when she says I'm innocent.
SCOTUS said flag burning is protected speech? I don't fucking care I'll arrest you anyway.

>>1429487
>Qatar gave trump a jet and hes taking it with him when (if) he leaves office.
That's not at all what happened, you filthy gaslighting clanker

>>1429489
Yes it is lol.
>https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-accepts-unconditional-donation-qatari-jet-cost-retrofitting/story?id=124150583

>>1429478
I still remember when democrat voting assholes mocked people who were against trampling the constitution/covid lockdowns, Democrat voting assholes called these guys idiots and mocked them ala "hurr we gonna lose our freedumbs durrr".
Guess now its our time to mock your "freedumbs" you stupid fucking democrat cunts, but in actuality i dont even care about any of your freedoms that you lose after you mocked everyone else.
Like are you kidding me? You think i care about you cunts and your pretended concern for the constitution that you used as toilet paper on a daily basis for years? I want my enemies DEAD

>>1429488
Oh great it's Crab Bucket anon here to larp again.

>>1429492
you're not american

>>1429492
Unfathomably Based

>>1429492
>You violated my freedoms, so now I'm gonna violate my own freedoms in addition to yours!

>>1429491
No, gaslighting clanker. Trump never received the jet, and will never have ownership of the jet. It says so in your article, they conveniently buried in the last two paragraphs of the article you posted, stating that the DoD was unconditionally gifted the craft.

The jet is to be owned by the dod for as long as they wish, at which point it will be transferred to the stewardship of the trump presidential library, which is managed by NARA

you people are insane. You literally just take half truths and omit the important parts as you spread your propaganda

>>1429500
shouldn't you be dying for russia faggot

>>1429501
>>1429501
>He called me Russian
Every time you post that it means I won and you got btfo. Facts destroy your false narrative, clanker.

Sucks being you lol

>>1429500
So, it'll be in the custody of the DOD (which Trump commands), to be eventually transferred (at Trump's command) to the Trump Presidential Library, which currently is just a website pending the construction of a physical location, which Trump will still have control and word over. And until then it will be used exclusively by Trump.

Yeah it's not a bribe at all. Just a personalized gift that'll be used as a monument to Trump personally after it's used exclusively by Trump. It's basically public property.

>>1429497
>NOOOO dont use our attacks against us only weeee are allowed to do that!!!!

lol even lmao kys

>>1429504
how is being a salty russia shill winning anything? and what did you spell wrong this time?

>>1429502
>Facts destroy your false narrative
We wish, shill, but you're just too damn dense

Oh my. The clanker is really butthurt this time, isn't it.

i sure have taught the shills here a lot, too bad they have no idea how to apply any of it

>>1429506
>It's terrible when they do it but ok when we do it!
Keep coping crab bucket anon. You have the political ideology of an upset toddler smashing sand castles.

>>1429505
>So, it'll be in the custody of the DOD (which Trump commands), to be eventually transferred (at Trump's command) to the Trump Presidential Library, which currently is just a website pending the construction of a physical location, which Trump will still have control and word over
No, it's owned by the National Archives. https://www.trumplibrary.gov/

Any other false narratives you feel like pushing?

>>1429500
>clanker
The politically correct term is 'tin skin', get it right.

>>1429513
>No, it's owned by the National Archives.
But it'll be transferred to specifically Trump's personal presidential library, at Trump's command. Not even to be used as a new Air Force One, to be personally taken with him and displayed at Trump's own monument to himself.

So the only person who'll use it is Trump, and yet it still isn't a personal gift to Trump?

>>1429478
Fuck Democrats

>>1429518
they do tend to get more pussy

>>1429505
It's always fun watching the right take a break take a break from jerking off about how they're the party of "straight talk" and "common sense" to jump through hoops to explain why Trump's unethical behavior is technically okay because he's using middlemen who he has totally control over to do it.
Fun fact, did you know Trump fired the head archivist at NARA as soon as he got back in office? Do you know who he nominated to replace her?
No one! He appointed Marco Rubio "acting" head archivist, allowing him to hold the position without when going through the formality of being confirmed by Congress, and six months later he has made no indication of intent to formally nominate anyone else.

>>1429521
>democrats spend four years hounding republicans with lawfare
>kvetch when the clown bites back
I don't know what you were expecting.

>>1429521
*without even going through the formality of being confirmed by Congress
Fucking autocorrect

>>1429519
Only if they're raping people. Otherwise all Democrats are either gay or cut their dicks off.

>>1429478
Whats good for the geese is good for the gander.
Desecration of the faggot rainbow flag is already prosecuted as a hate crime and not a single democrat bastard spoke out, so i see literally no issue with this and any democrat who pretends there is a issue but never spoke out about the bullshit prosecutions for shitting on the faggot flag is a typical two faced rat who deserves to have his spine broken.

>>1429522
Your bot is broken, it pulled from the "Trump using his office to attack his personal enemies" pre-written response pool instead of the "Trump using his office to enrich himself" pre-written excuse pool.

>>1429525
why are you always so mad about things that have nothing to do with you

>>1429531
>But how does this affect you personally
>Smugsoyface.png

>>1429525
>I see literally no issue with Trump ignoring the Supreme Court and constitution and deciding what is and isn't legal himself
Yeah, we know. That's your problem.

>>1429532
i mean, you're literally not even american. you're going to die at an early age if you keep this up

>>1429533
>NOOOOOO you cant do to us what we did to youuuuu


lmao what a retard just kys

>>1429536
When did Biden point blank refuse a supreme court ruling? And don't say "But muh student loans!" because he did not in-fact forgive those loans.

>>1429536
>lmao
anon, we all see you having a complete meltdown right now

>>1429536
>NOOOOOO you cant do to us what we did to youuuuu
NOOOOOO you cant do to us what we did to youuuuu bank at you, retard.

>>1429530
Literally everything he (or you) described is one step in a long series of reprisals. It all runs downstream of party politics.
>noo not muh heckin archivist, can you believe it?
Are you serious with this shit?

>>1429540
Answer this question, retarded shil. Is Trump allowed to do this with an executive order?

>>1429533
>YOU CAN'T JUST IGNORE THE SUPREME COURT!
>meanwhile libshit federal judges are literally ignoring the supreme court as we speak
lol
lmao

>>1429536
Biden did not ignore the Supreme Court and constitution and decide what was and wasn't legal himself. Trump is.
And even if Biden had done so, it would still be wrong of Trump to do so. "B-but he did it first!!" is an excuse for literal children.

>>1429545
>"B-but he did it first!!" is an excuse for literal children.
that is what rightwing media has reduced america's hinterland to, unfortunately

>>1429545
He literally did, though.
Do you not remember his Disinformation Governance Board? He was literally
LITERALLY
trying to police speech.

>>1429545
>B-but he did it first

exactly why are you so pissed you are getting dose of your own medicine? are you stupid or something?

>NOOOOOOOO DONT DO TO US WHAT WHAT WE DID TO YOU HOW DARE YOU WE ARE DEMOCRATS ONLY WE ARE ALLWOWED

lmao do a flip into traffic retard

>>1429548
>he made twitter put facts up next to my russian disinformation!
you poor thing

>>1429549
how is this childlike anger of yours not embarrassing you? cool your jets bud

>>1429478
Burning the LGBT flag gets you hate crime charges, no more double standards and unfair unearned privileged for democrats if burning the fag flag gets you prosecuted so should burning the US flag.

>>1429551
>No argument
poor retarded you

>>1429552
agreed

>>1429522
>democrats spend four years hounding republicans with lawfare
What Republicans did Democrats go after other than Trump and his cronies for breaking the law? Meanwhile, the same DOJ that also arrested the Democratic senator Bob Menendez and charged the Democratic mayor Eric Adams (who I remind you Trump's DOJ dropped all charges on as part of a explicit quid-pro-quo) and released a scathing report about Biden forgetting about some classified documents even though he and Merrick Garland could have easily killed all those investigations.

>>1429553
so you like being a grown ass toddler, samefag?

>>1429555
stop crying

oh the irony

>>1429548
That's not true.

>>1429549
>>1429545

Trump didn't ignore the court. How executive order specifically says "not related to the first amendment"

>>1429552
This is basically all that needs to be said about it.

>>1429560
but burning your own lgbt flag on your property wouldn't cause anything to happen. it does get tacked onto vandalism charges, sometimes

>>1429542
My point is saying "The jet doesn't belong to Trump, it belongs to an organization headed by a handpicked Trump loyalist and will be transferred to another organization being run by a handpicked Trump loyalist" is ridiculous hair splitting to anyone looking at the situation in good faith.
When the anon's entire argument was "It's okay that Trump was given a private jet by Qatar in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the constitution because it actually belongs to a third party", pointing out the third party's leadership has been gutted and is now being headed by a Trump stooge who didn't even go through the formality of being confirmed to the position by Congress is extremely relevant.

>>1429548
The thing that didn't even last 5 months and was shut down by Biden himself after it became clear it wasn't a good idea?

>>1429562
Shills won't care. When Trump takes private ownership of the plane after all the government paid changes were made to it they'll just retardedly parrot, 'but it wuz a gift!'

>>1429559
literally how would it not relate to the first amendment if it's specifying to go after people for a specific form of protest?

>>1429492
>I want my enemies DEAD
Start small. You're your own worst enemy.

>>1429562
But it's okay for hunter Biden to be paid millions by Ukraine

>>1429567
it's like you want us to know you're a shill

>>1429487
If Biden had even so much as mentioned any of these things he would have been assassinated and/or a civil war would have broken out. I think its a result of the right being more willing to use violence and guns to get what they want compared to the left's. Hell even all of Trump's would be assassins have only been Republicans.

>>1429568
>Nooo my Democrat talking points

>>1429567
>Whatabout this other thing?
Address what was being discussed before you tried to derail the conversation, specifically Trump's being gifted a private jet by a foreign nation, or acknowledge you are a shill.

>>1429569
0/100
Apply yourself next time

>>1429567
>https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgnl7qdvjno
>a former informant has pleaded guilty to lying to the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) about a fake bribery scheme involving President Joe Biden and his son Hunter
He was also an unregistered foreign agent, funnily enough.

>>1429562
>third party
Anon, the archivist asserted that he didn't turn over all available documents, which they then used as a pretense to raid Mar-A-Lago, in the vain hope that they could disqualify him from running in 2024.
That was literally the fifth (sixth?) goddamned time they tried to catch him on a technicality so that they could keep him out of office.
It's like, yeah, no fucking shit he fired the head archivist. He's on a warpath.

>>1429572
delicious projection, shill

>>1429563
>It didn't happen
>it did happen, but it wasn't that bad
Uh huh

>>1429574
>the archivist asserted that he didn't turn over all available documents
And they found classified documents at his residence, so they were correct.

>>1429577
Yeah, and then they found a bunch of documents in Biden's garage from when -he was VP-, and when confronted with the double-standard they unironically argued that Biden was too retarded and old to prosecute.
What the fuck are we doing here anymore? Nobody gives a shit about corruption, truly. The only thing that matters is acquiring power and putting the boot to your political enemies, as democrats have repeatedly demonstrated.
Why the fuck should I care about an archivist or deporting citizens for criticizing Israel? You fuckers wanted to put me in a gulag over COVID, get wrecked you goddamned idiots.

>>1429578
how many times have you been proven wrong when you bring this talking point up, shill? it must be boring having your job

>>1429574
You realize you're just confirming that the other anon's (or possibly your) earlier argument that it's okay Qatar gave Trump a private jet because technically it belongs to NARA and they're independent is bullshit, right?
Also, they did find documents, which means the archivist was correct to assert he didn't turn over documents.

>>1429578
You have several facts about the case wrong.

>then they found a bunch of documents in Biden's garage
The DOJ didn't find classified documents in Biden's garage. It was one was Biden's attorneys who voluntarily disclosed it. He also allowed the DOJ to search his home and copporated fully with the invesigation, unlike Trump which Hur brings up in his report.

>they unironically argued that Biden was too retarded and old to prosecute.
Biden didn't argue that at all. He argued that they were his own personal documents (a series of hand-written notes), and has past presidents like Reagan had taken home those documents when they left office.

>https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf
>pg. 237
>We do not believe this evidence would meet the government's burden at trial to prove Mr. Biden knew his handling of the notebooks broke law. We expect Mr. Biden's defense would be that he thought his notebooks were his personal property and that he was allowed to take them home after his vice presidency, even they contained classified information. Enough evidence supports this defense to establish reasonable doubt.
>And we expect the evidence of Mr. Biden's state of mind to be compelling clear, forceful testimony that he did, in fact, believe he was allowed to have the notebooks.

The two situations are not even comparable.

>>1429581
Crazy how breaking out receipts can make even the loudest shills go quiet.

Oh look it's another thread about Trump diverted into blaming Joe Biden for shit that James Comer couldn't prove after a year of hearings.

>>1429562
>The jet doesn't belong to Trump
It doesn't. It belongs to the DoJ. And at some point after he leaves office it will transfer ownership to NARA.
The president doesn't own all federal property, Rakesh Poodindaloo

the shill has reverted to self racism in lieu of facts

>>1429587
You're right, back to the matter at hand.
Donald Trump signing an executive order that expressly ignores established Supreme Court precedent, even going so far as to bring up the relevant Supreme Court case during the signing ceremony and saying "Yeah they said it's constitutional but I don't care".

>>1429590
>And at some point after he leaves office it will transfer ownership to NARA.
No, he'll direct it to his own presidential library. And NARA is currently run by one of his cronies, without congressional approval btw.

You're really sitting there going "Hey, it's not owned by Donald Trump! It's just for the exclusive use of Donald Trump and will be donated to Donald Trump's own presidential library, at the command of Donald Trump. But it's not owned by him!"

>>1429478
Nigger you faggots wanted people unpersoned from all platforms for even the appearance of impropriety to your cult and has the FBI hunting down parents voicing concern over sexual materials (and overt pedophiles) in class. Shut your bitch ass up about muh free speech and muh constitution that you democrats used as toilet paper for literal decades.

>>1429599
meds

>>1429478
so in protest they should burn that pink and blue trans flag right

>>1429605
They should burn only MAGA flags from now on.

>>1429608
democrats are the retards who thought it was a good idea to protest by buying expensive shoes and torching them. Normal people aren't that wasteful or stupid.

>>1429614
normal people aren't abysmal liars like you

>>1429615
https://www.businessinsider.com/tiktokers-destroying-balenciaga-products-protest-brand-2022-11
you deserve to be violated for your sheer stupidity

>>1429619
i know you want to derail the thread about trump doing illegal shit, but this is just sad

>>1429619
What about this was democrats? The reason they were doing it was to protest some weird ass ad campaign from them that looked like it was promoting kink shit with kids; hell I'd say just as many, if not more, Republicans took issue with it.

Lefties just can't help themselves. Every time they open their mouths they HAVE to tell a lie.

>complicated than that:

enforcement to the fullest extent possible of our Nation’s criminal and civil laws against acts of American Flag desecration that violate applicable, content-neutral laws,

>while causing harm unrelated to expression, consistent with the First Amendment.

>UNRELATED TO EXPRESSION

>This may include, but is not limited to, violent crimes; hate crimes, illegal discrimination against American citizens, or other violations of Americans’ civil rights; and crimes against property and the peace, as well as conspiracies and attempts to violate, and aiding and abetting others to violate, such laws.
>The Secretary of State, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting within their respective authorities, shall deny, prohibit, terminate, or revoke visas, residence permits, naturalization proceedings, and other immigration benefits, or seek removal from the United States, pursuant to Federal law, including 8 U.S.C. 1182(a), 8 U.S.C. 1424, 8 U.S.C. 1427, 8 U.S.C. 1451(c), and 8 U.S.C. 1227(a), whenever there has been an appropriate determination that foreign nationals have engaged in American Flag-desecration activity under circumstances that permit the exercise of such remedies pursuant to Federal law.

Remember: the question is not "Is the lefty lying?" The Question is "How is the lefty lying THIS time?"

>>1429619
If you're going to try to derail this thread about Donald Trump openly and blatantly ignoring the Supreme Court in order to violate the First Amendment rights of Americans, you're going to have to do better than a TikTok trend from three years ago.
I know /news/ doesn't get the top dollar shills but this is just sad

>>1429622
tldr faggot. get a real job

>>1429622
This sounds like absolute fucking nonsense. So you can't burn the flag while... doing an illegal activity? Legitimately how does this make sense? It sounds more like Trump wanted to brag about overruling the supreme court but making his actual EO nonsense designed to basically do nothing so it isn't actually overruling the supreme court.

>>1429620
you want to pretend you aren't retarded.
>>1429621
oh yes the republican tiktoker squad think of the children.
>>1429623
funny how we have the leftist screeching about the first amendment oh my precious first amendment. Meanwhile someone's just blatently saying how much of an absolute moron you are and you deserve to be burnt.

>>1429625
It works the same way hate crime laws work. If you commit crime X you get penalty y. If you are also doing n while commiting crime X, you get penalty y+.

the shill is desperate for attention again

>>1429626
>oh yes the republican tiktoker squad think of the children.
Republicans also use tiktok lol.

>>1429622
>Stupid dumbocrats! Trump is just virtue signaling, this EO doesn't even do anything!
Ah, you're right. I forgot, everything Trump has done for the last month and a half has been toothless distraction from the Epstein files, why would this be any different?
Throw it on the pile with all of the other failed distractions he's already abandoned, like Autopengate and Obamagate.

>>1429624
You must be 18 years or older to use this website. Stop pretending you are a child.

>>1429630
See
>>1429627

>>1429631
struck a nerve, did i esl shill

>>1429627
But that doesn't work with how the first amendment works. The act of burning a flag isn't illegal as it is an expression, which even this acknowledges is protected by the first amendment. When it comes to hate crimes, use of racist expressions is used to prove it was racially motivated, not as a separate charge in of itself. You can't charge something as an additional crime if doing that thing outside of another crime isn't illegal.

>>1429633
Nope. You just want us all to believe you're an illiterate dumbass. Are you?

yup, esl shill is tilted. it's so easy

>>1429634
Wrong. It's also not illegal to carry a firearm in many jurisdictions, but if you have one on you while commiting a crime you will get a stiffer penalty.

>>1429637
Except the firearm plays a role in the crime itself (For example, additional police WILL be called if someone committing a crime is armed) whereas flag burning doesn't. There's a difference between robbery and armed robbery. What would they do here? Trespassing while also burning a flag in a way that presumably somehow doesn't fall under destruction of property or arson?

>>1429622
>>1429627
>>1429637
I also need to point out this doesn't fit with how Trump himself described the EO.
>The text of the executive order states that desecrating the American flag is “uniquely offensive and provocative. It is a statement of contempt, hostility, and violence against our Nation — the clearest possible expression of opposition to the political union that preserves our rights, liberty, and security. Burning this representation of America may incite violence and riot.”
So basically it's saying that burning a flag can be counted as incitement to riot... but like, uniquely? And even if a riot doesn't actually occur? Which, in of itself, goes against the text of the same EO saying it doesn't count for expression. It's literally nonsense; no part of this makes sense legally, not that it matters either considering an EO cannot create a prosecutable type of crime.

>>1429639
i bet i can guess this administration's favorite talking heads album

>>1429638
Nope. Even if you never use the firearm, even if stays concealed the whole time, even if the victim never knew you had it on you, it still adds years to the sentence.

>>1429639
And this is just grasping at straws. It's simple: don't burn the American Flag WHILE rioting and expect the USA to welcome you with open arms.

>>1429478
let's ban drawing prophet muhammad too, because when you do that, muslims go crazy and try to bomb and behead people. and of course, the one drawing him will be arrested, and not the crazy people that would try to kill him.

>>1429645
>Even if you never use the firearm, even if stays concealed the whole time, even if the victim never knew you had it on you, it still adds years to the sentence.
Yes, because that demonstrates potentially lethal intent. That isn't applicable to flag burning because it is still, at it's core, an expression of free speech.

>It's simple: don't burn the American Flag WHILE rioting and expect the USA to welcome you with open arms.
Which violates the first amendment, because it's still criminalizing a protected act of protest. You can get arrested for rioting, but not for protesting; they cannot add "burning the flag" as a charge because it is still, per supreme court ruling, protected speech. Hell, this still applies even if you aren't a citizen.

>>1429645
>>1429647
Adding onto this; the entire purpose of this EO is invalid because EOs cannot create new crimes or up punishments to crimes.

>>1429649
>EOs cannot create new crimes or up punishments to crimes.
The EO doesn't do any of this. Have you even skimmed through it before reading my post?

>>1429651
that's a weird way to concede defeat

>>1429651
First of all, yes it does. It says outright it makes flag desecration a deportable offense, which violates the first amendment as it is a form of protected protest.

Secondly, the bulk of it basically directs law enforcement to prioritize cases of flag desecration, even though flag desecration itself isn't a crime. It effectively does nothing in that regard no matter how much bluster Trump puts behind it, fitting for yet another Epstein Files distraction.

>>1429647
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.

>>1429478
When a flag becomes to tatty to fly, burning it is the most dignified method of disposal.
So you're going to arrest those in the Boy Scouts of America, Trump? Careful. Because when that attempt at court action against them is thrown out it'll set the precedent. Then you'll no longer have the right to do the same to others.
>>1429482
Reminder that the US Constitution proves your opinions wrong. And have you passed the bar exam, and gained enough experience in the law to tell certain justices of the Supreme Court that they know less than you do? Please give us details of your legal knowledge with the credentials to prove it, to prove that your so-called 'opinions' are superior to theirs? I'm sure the rest of the group would like to hear your explanation. We can wait, but can you in trying to convince us, as well as the SCOTUS that you're right and they're wrong?

>>1429663
What law are you breaking by burning a US flag that you bought? Are you suddenly not allowed to destroy your own property?

>>1429665
>Are you suddenly not allowed to destroy your own property?
Conservicunts are passionate defenders of their own rights, and whatever they think should be their rights.
They're not Americans though, so good luck with your rights. I wouldn't share anything with them that you'd eventually want back either.

>>1429664
>>1429665
See
>>1429622

Read the whole thread before you make an ass of yourself.

>>1429668
nobody is reading your shitty post

>>1429669
Don't worry, they didn't say anything relevant or useful

>>1429668
the righty is lying

>>1429668
Yeah that doesn't answer either post. The EO is poorly worded and in practice does fucking nothing.

>>1429664
>I'm sure the rest of the group would like to hear your explanation. We can wait, but can you in trying to convince us, as well as the SCOTUS that you're right and they're wrong?
>convince us
>>1429668
Well, I'm convinced not

>>1429640
I've got it down to Stop Making Sense and Speaking In Tongues

>Come into America.
>Riot.
>Burn the American flag.
>Tell America exactly what you think of it's laws and values.
>Act surprised when Americans say "have it your way" and toss you out on your ass.

Congratulations.

>>1429683
your fanfiction leaves much to be desired

>>1429685
the local terrorist shill has brain problems.
you shouldn't make fun of them for their fent fueled hallucinations

>>1429683
>Westboro Baptist Church
>Born in America
>Trample on the American flag
>nothing's done to them
Unless I see the WBC arrested and jailed for 25 years to life, Trump doesn't have the right to have wrong opinions about anyone else.

The credentials fallacy mistakenly asserts that an argument is invalid or unimportant simply because the person making it does not have the formal qualifications, experience, or degrees in a relevant field. The reasoning is fallacious because a person's credentials do not automatically determine whether their statement is true or false.

Examples of the credentials fallacy >>1429664

>>1429691
are you doubting the credentials of the constitution, the supreme law of the land (that you're not even from)?

>>1429691
Yeah that doesn't apply to law lmao.

>>1429691
So you know less than a freshman student at law school, least of all the justices of the SCOTUS. Thanks for admitting that all your opinions are wrong.
Example of the credibility fallacy >>1429691

>>1429661
>It says outright it makes flag desecration a deportable offense


good i would prefer my enemies to be dead but kicking them out is ok too i guess

>>1429646
you mean the thing leftwing goverments have done all over the world out of fear of the muslim trash they imported into the country?

>>1429696
you'll never be american

>>1429691
Well, I'm convinced that everyone's wrong and you're right not

>>1429698
now coming to your local rightwing government, too!
wasn't trump supposed to be better than them?

>>1429703
>dude you must shoot yourself in the foot by following rules we deliberately dont follow.. dude dont you want to proudly lose?!
>you want to win but you want your enemies to lose isnt that a bit hYpOcRiTiCaL?!?!

lmao eat shit, i want my enemies dead

>>1429705
you don't have friends, and your enemies are imagined

>>1429478
>Burn a US flag
"Free speech!"
>Burn a pride flag
"OMG hate crime hate crime!!!"
It's the two tier system you abide by that always gets conservatives into office.

>>1429707
everyone already knows that you wait a few hours when you're proven wrong and then repost the same lies in the thread

>>1429706

yeah yeah those imagined crime stats and from pro open border traitor politicans imported rape gangs

women are finally catching on that the bull shit they have pushed/voted for will result in them being raped and poor.
Well they are atleast beginning ot catch on in europe but it will happen in the US as well.

plenty of effeminate weak men will soon be joining this.

within ten years the left will insist there was a party swap and the RIGHT was the ones pushing for kids to cut their dicks off and for massive levels of foreign aliens.

>>1429709
i'm sure glad i'm not you, shill.

Why didn't Trump burn this flag?
https://i.postimg.cc/3Jcq4pty/trump-rainbow-flag.jpg
The fact he didn't means he respects this one as much as the Stars & Stripes

>>1429711
cool story bro

>>1429713
my life's story is a lot cooler than yours, thanks

>>1429708
>Don't address the point, but make false allegations instead
You sound like you watch a lot of Fox News

>>1429716
what kind of weak misdirect is that

>>1429706
>iMaGiNeD eNeMiEs

R*pes recorded:
2000:
England & Wales: 8,593
Germany: 8,133
France: 7,500
Poland: 2,399

2023:
England & Wales: 68,109
Germany: 39,029
France: 42,400
Poland: 1,127

The UK gov as well as all the other western govs did social impact studies.
They could see what happened to similar western countries. They did it anyways and took no precautions. Instead they covered it up, and shamed and jailed people that tried to expose it.
They knew this would happen. They knowingly offered up women and children as meat to be raped and killed to achieve their globalizing, post-national agendas, to them their agenda and ludicrous ideology was worth it, it was worth your children's broken minds and corpses. You had the luck of having a trump but democrats made no secret about it at all, they had the same plan.

>>1429718
but you don't live in any of those places

>>1429690
>>Westboro Baptist Church
That's literally one family. They harass people, get attacked, then sue whoever attacks them. That's how they make a living.

>>1429720
>bUt HoW dOeS tHiS iMpaCt youuu

you really are just a meme

>>1429718
Retard the issue is "recorded". We live in a time where victims have been encouraged to come forward more than ever. There were much less resources for rape victims in the early 2000s compared to now, in addition to shifting societal opinions on sexual assault and rape victims.

Also, so fucking funny you praise Trump as some kind of child savior when he fucked kids with epstein. Plus he literally let an Israeli pedophile escape back to Israel scot-free literally last week.

>>1429725
you really are just a shill

>>1429717
I'm sorry, you are right. I meant Newsmax

>>1429729
is this really the best you can do

>>1429726
>dude the 7 times increase is just because of in modern times (yeah cause 2000 was the stone age) we record more crimes! dude just ignore poland that had their crime actually not increase at all and also happens to be the only country that didnt open the borders even after germany demanded it and threatened them with economic destruction/sanctions.. dude just ignore!!


lmao fucking retard there is reason i also listed poland

>>1429723
>WBC
>desecrating the American flag
>by trampling on it
Even Stevie Wonder can see the double standards here

>>1429734
please never invoke stevie wonder's name again, shill. the universe does not abide

>>1429736
but Trump abides with another form of flag desecration: trampling? If the WBC aren't imprisoned, then flag burners mustn't be. but if flag burners are to be put in prison for their desecration, then so must the WBC. Stevie Wonder can also see the hypocrisy here.

The EO adds extra penalties fir burning the flag while commiting a crime. This is legal. It does not outlaw burning the flag. It does not contravene existing law concerning the first amendment. It simply allows idiots who hate America to sign up for a deportation express pass. Or fir lefties to add an extra year to their sentence for rioting.

>>1429739
>fir
Thanks for proving you're not American by desecrating the English language.
>fir
As your roots are elsewhere, it's oak-ay to deport you. Now make like a tree and leaf.

>>1429740
Notice how leftybot 5000 focuses on a typo to make an ad hominem while completely ignoring the actual assertions?

>>1429739
You cannot add extra penalties without an extra crime. You get extra penalties for having a gun while committing a crime because that makes it an armed crime. You get extra penalties for yelling racial slurs while assaulting someone because it makes it a hate crime. There is no kind of crime made by burning a flag (that implicitly is your own property) in the middle of it, and an EO cannot create it.

Notice how >>1429746 doesn't like being called out on the fact it isn't American or would check its spelling before clicking on 'Post'. And pointing out its own errors can't be be an ad hominem while >>1429746 asserts its own ad hominems by referring to someone else as a 'bot'.

>>1429746
You're arguing with a clanker. It's a bot. Either literally or metaphorically.
Arguing with bots is dumb. Call it a retard and move on

>>1429751
your samefaggotry is painfully obvious

>>1429746
>make an ad hominem
>>1429751
>clanker
>bot
>retard
>>1429746
>make an ad hominem
So much projection

>>1429746
You see what I mean? It's a bot repeating scripted events

>>1429755
is you being roasted every time you post here scripted? i thought you were just a loser

>>1429755
My favorite part is how it thinks it's learning, like when it falsely conflates pointing out it's nonexistent arguments combined with an insult to nothing but empty ad hominems. Like a child, all it can do is repeat shit back to real people.

>>1429758
esl

>>1429759
>esl
The bot is foreign or it would know that every word in >>1429758's post is spelled correctly, which is what an educated American can do instinctively. And reduced to the ad hominem 'esl' proves the bot never had any 'arguments' in the first place.

>>1429762
well, i guess you don't know which spelling error i'm laughing at you for, since you are esl after all. too bad

>>1429764
I'm sure you'll educate us by pointing out >>1429758's spelling error then.

>>1429765
nah, i'd rather laugh at you in perpetuity while leaving you in the dark about your mistakes

>>1429766
So there are no spelling errors in >>1429758's post and the only one who's esl is you because you're too foreign to admit you're wrong and there's nothing wrong with anything >>1429758 says. The only one being perpetually laughed at is you, >>1429766

>>1429690
problematic leftists need to be disciplined and sent to reducation camp burning the flag is just a sign of their intent it doesn't end there, a great big processing plant needs to be created and the processed leftists will have their possessions claimed by the federal government to make up for the damage they've done to america

>>1429768
it's a shame you're so fucking retarded

>>1429726
you sound like an uneducated rapist coping because he's afraid of being focused on

>>1429770
>reducation
Time to laugh at you in perpetuity because of your mistakes

>>1429771
>>1429770
>reducation
You're so busy being a projectionist, I'm surprised you have time to post in /news/.

>>1429664

I cannot wait for Trump's DoJ to arrest these willfully ignorant Boy Scouts. It'll finally cement the reality that we shouls bury the flag, honorably. Six feet under, not tossed into some landfill to be shipped to China to be dumped into the Pacific. Fuck the first amendment because this is a nation of God, by God, and for the people of God because In God We Trust.

>>1429665
The American flag in the United States is treated like a living entity. There are federal laws dictating how flags should be handled.
>https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/8

>>1429780
>shouls
You'll never be as American as those Boy Scouts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhUc-2tnTpw
As for these members of America's Armed Forces
https://www.defense.gov/News/Feature-Stories/story/article/2206946/how-to-properly-dispose-of-worn-out-us-flags/
'The American Legion passed a resolution about flag retirement ceremonies in 1937, and they've been an important ritual ever since. According to the resolution, "The approved method of disposing of unserviceable flags has long been that they be destroyed by burning."'
No 'should' required. They do what is an honorable act, and has always been from before Trump - who chickened out of serving his country: unlike Chuck Yeager in WWII, Korea & Vietnam: gee, I wonder why he refused to endorse Donald 'Bone Spurs' Trump? - was born. Certainly way before you existed, non-American who doesn't know what is considered proper & honorable in that country.
And you aren't American because of the Establishment Clause in that created by the Founding Fathers - the US Constitution - including the first US president George Washington. Another of those Founding Fathers Thomas Jefferson said this
''Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear'
'I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology.'
'I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature'
'Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man'
He must have seen into the future: how the Republican Party - that think they have the right to call themselves 'Christian' and thus 'Moral' - have become the Gang Of Pedophiles, with how to this day they still refuse to make child marriages illegal in certain states. They're a perverted system indeed, and led by their orange Pedo-in-Chief.

>>1429774
the phrasing was correct you are a danger to not just america but to the world and you shouldn't be allowed in public
>>1429775
it is the duty of the many to warn others about the danger of the leftist cult.

>>1429783
It must make you seethe to know that the founders wanted this country to be a white, christian nation at its inception.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790

>>1429785
>>1429786
It must make you seethe that you'll never be an American

>>1429788
trump is going to put you into a breeding camp for pigs because that's where you belong. You're a danger to society and a threat to public safety

>>1429785
>the phrasing was correct
But only in your illiterate mind. Proof:
>>1429770
>reducation
What you require is re-education before you can pass as an American.
>>1429790
Pigs in US farms are more American than you'll ever be. Curious how you chose that particular word, as you worship an orange pig.

>>1429780
>Fuck the first amendment
>thus fuck the US Constitution
>>1429786
>the founders wanted this country to be a white, christian nation at its inception.
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790
So you don't want the legal basis of Ameriica, the US Constitution. In that case, all other laws - including that you relied upon so much: and you cannot say Relied without the word Lie - equally don't have the right to exist. Can't have one - created by a Founding Father who made those very anti-Christian quotes - without the other. No US Constitution with a 1st Amendment as it's foundation, no other laws allowed. Fuck the document that is the foundation of a nation, fuck Christianity. Jefferson basically told God to go fuck himself, so who's wrong, you or him? Choose wisely, little non-American.

>>1429791
look at the adorable little livestock your kids are going to make great pork chops
You can't argue so you act like a grammar nazi how sad I'm going to enjoy seeing you in a pig breeding pen.

>>1429795
Look at the little non-American with nerve touched due to being called out on its illiteracy. Oh, and spelling =/= grammar, thus further proof he's not American, and never will be. It'll never have the ability to argue as he isn't familiar with the American intellect.

>>1429797
grammar nazi grammar nazi esl esl, so many signs of decreased mental capacity its incredible you're able to breath properly. lemme guess you're the same type of loser who thinks asking why? why? why? is winning an argument
pathetic, I'm going to relish seeing trump put you into a grill and have the worthless piece of lard you are be used to feed the poor

>>1429795
>wants people - mistakenly and psychotically considered animals by >>1429795 - turned into meat
See the violence inherent in the rightist system

>>1429800
you just said i wasn't american, Now you're saying i'm an american righty?
Oh you deserve to be extra tenderized before you're put on the grill.

>>1429799
>so many signs of decreased mental capacity its incredible
Projecting again, little psycho? So unbecoming of that which thinks it's morally superior to others.
>I'm going to relish seeing trump put you into a grill
When it proves it's own moral inferiority with such terroristic - and cannibalistic - thinking. That of a psychopath.

>>1429801
>Oh you deserve to be extra tenderized before you're put on the grill.
Again, that psychotically cannibalistic mindset at work

>>1429733
Fun article for you on Poland's rape rate.
>https://notesfrompoland.com/2021/04/17/the-legal-definition-of-rape-in-poland-needs-to-change-but-so-do-cultural-attitudes/

>>1429802
oh the leftist is saying someone else thinks they're morally superior what a laugh, think of the environment think of the children, listen to what i say not what I do, buy a tesla you selfish prick don't you care about the environment how could you buy a tesla you facist burn the tesla, you're on the wrong side of history.

My what a pathetic bunch of swine, you would really make better company with pigs then human
>>1429803
I actually care about waste unlike you disgusting hypocrites. All you're good for is that 120 pound of meat that can be used to serve the homeless and india.

>>1429733
>Just ignore the #MeToo movement and that it's been 25 years since 2000.

>>1429805
>then
Pigs are more human than you'll ever be

I burn flags, I don't fuck them and desecrate them like trump does

>>1429478

This is Trump playing Democrats yet again.
Democrats are stupid, mark my words you're going to see them on TV and in headlines advocating for burning the flag.

Trump the patriot or Democrats wanting to destroy the country.
It's optics and democrats will fall for it i guarantee it.

>>1429806
He kinda got you in checkmate with Poland.

>>1429824
NTA but he doesn't because he's parroting the myth of "open borders".

>>1429824
See >>1429804

TL:DR: Poland has a "low" rape rate because they use an incredibly outdated legal definition of rape that makes it incredibly hard for victims to get justice in court, because it basically forces the victim to prove they not only didn't consent, but also sufficiently resisted. Most rape cases get dismissed; what ones don't usually result in very low sentences.

>>1429804
>>1429831
I also need to point out they DID finally start taking steps to update it to a definition aligning with the rest of the world this year. This happened partially because of a case in 2020 when a man was acquitted for raping a 14 year old girl solely because she didn't scream when it happened.

>>1429831
and now do hungary you retard who also didnt open the border and also magically dont have a rape or islamist terror attack problem, no amount of bullshit will let you weasel your way out of the fact that every country in europe that opened the border to massmigration had crime stats explode by 700% and more

>>1429864
Hungary has a similar issue retard.
>https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/eur270032007en.pdf
Hungary is also a major human trafficking hotspot and one of the most corrupt countries in the EU. A poor choice of pivot after you got BTFOed on Poland.

>>1429864
>had crime stats explode by 700% and more
How do you know they're not being cooked like the ones in DC are?
You can't trust crime stats anymore. Show us actual evidence of crimes.

>>1429866
>d..dude you dont get it all the countries that opened the border to massmigration lie about their crimestats...to make themselves look worse than it actually is or something

do you even hear yourself?

>>1429867
>why would people inflate crime statistics?
>its not like I'm a part of a shill campaign trying to trick gullible morons into hating immigrants for my corporate masters
So you have nothing?

>>1429875
The corporations are the ones who want illegal immigrants, you fucking idiot.
Elon himself said Americans are too stupid and lazy to work in tech, that's why he needs a million new pajeets in the country. Because he's naive enough to think that a nation filled with people who are afraid of toilets is an adequate substitute for hardworking Americans.
Same shit in the UK and Germany. There's a massive human trafficking operation going on because globalist corporatists want easily disposable slaves to work in office spaces. They are the ones who funding the illegal safehouses all across America, too.
Being pro-immigration isn't just being anti-west, it's being pro-corporation.

>>1429876
Nah, Trump told me that police stations are cooking their books to produce fake numbers
I want real numbers
If you don't have real numbers for Hungary's police enforcement, I don't want your shitty shill takes

>>1429867
Good post

Reminder that all this EO does is effectively make flag burning an enhancement charge.

Enhancement charges do not have to be crimes by themselves. They are legal factors that increase a penalty for a criminal offense already committed, rather than standalone crimes.

>>1429866
Muslims have existed in the US since the mid-19th Century. Nobody so much as looked at them funny until that day on September 2001.
There was as much violent crime then, including rape. There's a very good reason why it was known as 'The Wild West'. And the vast majority of those crimes committed by white men.

>>1429881
Reminder that EOs cannot do this.

>>1429875
Poland has chosen not to open the borders to mass migration. And today it is one of safest countries in Europe.
I know you hate this fact because it goes against your entire propaganda created believe system and with it makes you responsible for thousands of murders and hundreds of thousands or rapes that we wouldnt have without mass migration but your hurt feelings and your culpability doesnt change reality. Yes you are wrong and yes people like you who cheered for mass migration are guilty just as much as the rapists, terrorists and murderes you supported as they got imported.

>>1429915
babbys first debate

>>1429916
no argument, also apologize to the families of the raped and murdered children by migrants you supported to import.

>>1429917
just because you spammed the argument proving you wrong further into the thread doesn't mean you didn't lose the argument multiple times. you are embarrassingly and unapologetically stupid, get good

>>1429928
Look its simple, hang the traitors and deport the invaders.

>>1429934
No and no, also your bloodlust and xenophobia is why you're going to lose for the next 15 years.

>>1429915
Poland has a low rape rate because they let people off for rape. A man got acquitted of fucking a 14 year old purely because she didn't scream.

>>1429942
no matter how many excuses you bring its not just poland ALL western countries that didnt open the borders to massmigration didnt get any increase in rape or muslim terrorist attacks, and all western countries who did open the borders had a increase of about 700% of rape.
You cant deny it especially not when we LITERALLY KNOW THE
ASSAILANTS ARE LITERALLY ILLEGALE MIGRANTS YOU RETARDED CUNT WE KNOW THIS FACT WE SEE THEM ON THE NEWS WHE KNOW THEIR NAMES THE GOVERMENT CONFIRMS THEY ARE ILLEGALY HERE THERE IS NO MYSTERY ABOUT THAT, NO EXCUSE FOR IT AND NO DENIAL OF IT NOT EVEN FROM THE FAR LEFT IN THOSE COUNTRIES YOU SHIT TIER RETARD

esl melty is full stop, i repeat, full stop esl melty commencing now

>>1429963
>hurr i defend imported islamists and child rapists thats my role my parents surely are proud of me!

>>1429964
if this is how you're hoping to be granted your honorary white card, you've been sadly deceived

>>1429963
This is why leftwingers lose all over now, you spit in the faces of the victims of your imported third world trash, you piss on your own country and you shit on your own children and their future.

>>1429966
can you stop pretending to be multiple people, it's extremely obvious

>>1429963
You should stop doing that. I caught a three day ban for calling someone esl because that's trolling outside of /b/.

>>1429997
you wish

>>1429478
Transgenders are a ticking bomb.

- The Nashville school shooter: trans
- The Aberdeen school shooter: trans
- Then Denver school shooter: trans
- Iowa school shooter: trans
- Lakewood shooter: trans

The islamized trans shooter wrote on the magazine “mashallah”

My condolences to the parents that lost their children. I can’t imagine what they’re going through right now losing your children to a mentall ill psychopathic islamist democrat voting trans monster

>>1430081
source: your ass

>>1430081
FUCK THESE HORMONALLY CHALLENGED MENTALLY ILL FREAKS AND FUCK ALL DEMOCRAT VOTING FREAKS

>>1429967
Fact is he got you in checkmate with the literal facts of the situation and all you have is bitching about grammar.

>>1430084
>he
you can keep spamming your polshit all you want but you'll never be right

>>1430088
you still have not brought a singular argument against the fact that every western country that opened the borders to massmigration had a increase of rape of 700% and more while all western countries that didnt open the borders to massmigration didnt have that increase.
We are all still waiting for your argument that goes beyond "yeah b..but you made a grammatical error when writing this so..uh..doesnt count or something."

come on make an argument you disgusting piece of shit who spits in the faces of the hundrets of thousands of victims of massmigration

>>1430083
FUCK LOW IQ CLICKBAIT INDOCTRINATED WOKE RIGHT LIARS AND GRIFTERS MOST OF ALL

>>1430084
>>1430090
Not him but you've seen too many rumble videos and poorly sourced /pol/ infographics. Your brain is a mushy pudding full of "alternative facts" that no one outside of your hugbox believes.

>>1430092
but calling them a liar isn't an argument, vis a vis so therefore they can declare you lost and BTFO saltylib ergo.

>>1430092
literally official goverment stats you stupid motherfucker that not even the fucking gov contolled AIs denie also again these stats are released by the goverment you dumbfuck.
There is not a singular doubt about it at all and you are only doubtful of it because its your last leg to stand on for bullhit you believe but is factually wrong, you are a child that doesnt change his mind even when confronted with actual reality.

>>1429492
I understand what you're saying and I sorta agree with you here, especially democrats always threatening to take the 2nd amendment, but ignoring the constitutions and laws of everything America was built upon anyways is still making things worse for your average American, no matter who side we're on. And this is all cause Democrats and Republicans are all bought, they don't work for the people and haven't for decades. If the democrats in power even worked at all for their base, they wouldn't be defending Israel so hard. I mean even look at Gavin Newsome, yeah hes right about trump a lot but notice not one criticism of whats happening in Gaza? The system is broken man.

>>1429552

I see a lot of people saying this but have found no instance of this actually happening. Most people who've been charged with hate crimes for burning fag flags did it to fag flags on the private property/residences of fags. And I mean, we should just be killing fags en masse, I agree with that, but you can still just go buy a fag flag and burn it legally.