https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-ukraine-continue-work-refined-peace-plan-end-war-with-russia-2025-11-24/KYIV/GENEVA, Nov 24 (Reuters) - U.S. and Ukrainian officials sought on Monday to narrow the gaps between them over a plan to end the war in Ukraine, after agreeing to modify a U.S. proposal that Kyiv and its European allies saw as a Kremlin wish list.In a joint statement, Washington and Kyiv said they had drafted a "refined peace framework" after talks in Geneva on Sunday. Though there were no specifics, the dialogue received a cautious welcome from some of Ukraine's allies.Ukraine's delegation to the talks with U.S. officials in Switzerland was returning home on Monday to report back, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said.U.S. President Donald Trump hinted at new progress."Is it really possible that big progress is being made in Peace Talks between Russia and Ukraine??? Don’t believe it until you see it, but something good just may be happening," Trump wrote on Truth Social.Since the summer, U.S. policy towards the war in Ukraine has zigzagged. Trump's hastily arranged Alaska summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin spurred worries that Washington was prepared to accept many Russian demands, but ultimately resulted in more U.S. pressure on Russia.The latest, 28-point peace proposal again caught many in the U.S. government, Kyiv and Europe off-guard and prompted fresh concerns that the Trump administration might be willing to push Ukraine to sign a peace deal heavily tilted towards Moscow.The plan would require Kyiv to cede more territory, accept curbs on its military and bar it from ever joining NATO, conditions Kyiv has long rejected as tantamount to surrender. It would also do nothing to allay broader European fears of further Russian aggression.
>U.S. President Donald Trump hinted at new progress.>"Is it really possible that big progress is being made in Peace Talks between Russia and Ukraine??? Don’t believe it until you see it, but something good just may be happening," Trump wrote on Truth Social.So no progress has been made at all
>>1459844Considering the current 'plan' is Ukraine's total surrender and trump sucking Putin's dick.
>>1459852First homosexual president.Demofaggots are compelled to love him now.
>>1459897Vatinks like you come up with the weirdest shit.trump, like you, is a conservative, ergo evil regardless of his sexuality.
First pedo pseudo-Tsarhttps://www.military.com/video/off-duty/odd/akward-moments-with-vladimir-putin/3129473236001Ivanfaggots already love him and condone his deviancy
>>1459852So why aren't you sending funds or actually going over there to fight in the war you believe in?
The war can't end until every Ukraigger is dead
>>1459841https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-peace-trump-live-updates-b2871404.html'Ukraine war latest: Kremlin sinks Trump’s hope of peace deal by Thanksgiving'
This war can't end until every Ivanfaggot in Ukraine is eliminated
>>1459930Big problems require collective action. it's far more effective for me to stay here and call out the Republicans for being traitorous bastards for supporting Russia and to support my local democratic politicians who do back Ukraine, so that the entire resources of the United States can be mobilized to assist Ukraine collectively.
>>1459990There isn't a 'good' party in the US for Ukraine. Even if the Democrats are less bad, Biden still slow pedaled and throttled aid rather than saying "we have thousands of Gen 1 Abrams in storage, here's 500 in the first month" and counted aid in the most financially inept way possible (marking down old equipment as full price and similar).
>>1460048>BidenWho isn't in the White House since 20th Jan of this year. But the midterms will ensure Democrats win in late 2028. That new administration will support Ukraine just to piss off Putin, that won't have a puppet it can control, least of all be able to interfere in elections after that pseudo-Tsar no longer has an cocksleeve in power.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-peace-trump-live-updates-b2871404.html'Ukraine war latest: Kremlin sinks Trump’s hope of peace deal by Thanksgiving'
Ukraine is going to be forced to give up land and Zelensky will flee to Israel. Trump told Zelenskystein to take the deal or fuck off. Russia has basically completely won
>>1460160Weird “you know they are Jews right” vibes. Netanyahu and Putin are best buddies. Putin loves Jews who support fascism
>>1460160>Ukraine is going to be forced to give up land and Zelensky will flee to Israel.>Russia has basically completely wonYou've been saying this every day for three years now, Dmitri
>>1460197To be fair, Russia is winning.I don't think it takes a genius to see that continuing the war has no value.And personally, I don't think Russia deserves anything, but I literally don't care about a chunk of the Soviet Union returning to Russia. Not my region, and I don't give a shit. So the options are be fucked or be completely fucked and Zelensky seems to be focusing on being completely fucked.Call me a Russian for saying so, I don't care.
>>1460204>Guys just appease them, it'll be fine. They'll stop after thatAlso Russia is literally bankrupting themselves lol. Nice try Ivan.
>>1460209>You can't talk about this even handedly>You're a Russian!!!Maybe the real Russians are the faggots who make me want to travel to Russia and enlist to help take Ukraine due to their insufferable bullshit?
>>1460212>Maybe the real Russians are the faggots who make me want to travel to Russia and enlist to help take Ukraine due to their insufferable bullshit?Okay, making you want to is all well and good, but how do we make you actually fucking do it? I'd stomach being called a Russian for you to die in a ditch.
>>1460204>>14602170.02 Kopecks have been deposited into your account. Putin values your hard work.
>>1459852Is a complete disaster and Trump should put all the blame on the democrats. Those morons started that stupid war for profit and need to be held responsible. At the very least there needs to be firing squads to punish those seditionists.
>>1460235Nah, the shill jumped from the "Akshully I don't even care at all" script to letting the mask slip in one comment. No pay for bad shilling.
>>1460247>Republicans create a disaster>blame everyone elseAnd how is this different from anything that's happened in the past 50 years?Of course republicans are the commies, they're the red party.
>>1460217>Okay, making you want to is all well and good, but how do we make you actually fucking do it? I'd stomach being called a Russian for you to die in a ditch.Well, here's the thing, you can't. My non-lingering anger at your childish bullshit tactics fades after two seconds, leaving only a hint of, "Man I wish Russia would simply Nuke Ukraine and get it over with so these insufferable NAFO troons exit MY Internets".Essentially, you're not compelling me to care, or convincing me of anything, you're just simply calling me Russian because you don't want to hear my unbiased viewpoint as a non-emotionally invest, non-faggot because your feeling are hurt or something.
>>1459841I really wish that these Ukrainian warmongers would just stop already and admit they were in the wrong and stop the violence
Has anyone else noticed that Ivan's bait posts are 50% less believable than at this time last year?
>>1460259Before any insufferable faggot comments:my "S" key is fried and I need to hammer the shit out of it.
>>1460259You seem upset
>>1460266Yes, as explained. You've been doing this same shit since the war started. I'm sick of Ukraine propagandists.
>>1460204being the aids and krokodil HQ of the world is not winning
>>1460140Two more days!
>>1460300>being the aids and krokodil HQ of the world is not winningNo, but winning in the war is winning the war. Ukraine has failed to take back anything in like what, 4 years now?
>>1460300Don't even have to go that farThe mere fact that the line is "Russia is winning" and not "Russia stomped the third world shithole in their backyard that they know every square inch of into submission in a weekend three years ago" is pathetic enough
>>1460306What % of pokrovsk is held by Ukraine?
>>1460332What % of pokrovsk was taken by Russia during the 3-day special operation that has taken 1500+ days?
>>1460332>isversus>was
