So kidnapping foreign leaders now. Looks like war is inevitable.

>>1470918
we just did a war crime. i wonder how maga will spin this.

>>1470917
Reminder: Just a month ago President Donald Trump pardoned a former Honduran president who helped drug cartels bring 400 tons of cocaine into US
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/former-honduran-president-released-us-prison-after-trump-pardon-2025-12-02/
'WASHINGTON, Dec 2 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump, who has cast himself as a relentless foe of illegal drugs, pardoned former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez, freeing him from a 45-year sentence for conspiring to import tons of cocaine into the United States.
Trump’s extraordinary move undermines decades of U.S. efforts to combat transnational drug networks, potentially damages Washington’s credibility in Latin America, and signals to corrupt actors that political connections can outweigh criminal accountability.'
Looks like corruption and hypocrisy are inevitable.

>>1470922
This. None of this has anything at all to do with drugs >>1469847 he doesn't care about drugs at all, it's always just a dog whistle he uses to try and stir shit up.
Trump will start any kind of war he thinks he needs to in order to steal their oil.

>>1470920
It's been war crimes the whole time. Attacking fishing boats and saying with zero evidence that the people they are murdering had drugs is a war crime already.

Trump unironically deserves a firing squad.

>>1470923
You're god damn right.

>>1470923
>>1470925
Careful what you write given the glowies are monitoring us and they're orange instead of green now.

Also, the best way to deal with trump and his regime, assuming his next coup isn't successful, is just extradite him and everyone else, like his secretary of war crimes to stand trial in the countries they attacked.
Has the two fold of rebuilding international relations and getting around both the Republican Supreme Court ruling that the president is king and trump pardoning everyone in his regime to make them uncountable to American law.

>>1470920
>i wonder how maga will spin this
Especially when the foreign minister of their 'Strong Man' Putin has just condemned what Trump has done. But then just two weeks ago:
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/russia-says-it-hopes-trump-does-not-make-a-fatal-mistake-venezuela-2025-12-18/
'Russia says it hopes Trump does not make a 'fatal mistake' on Venezuela'
'MOSCOW, Dec 18 (Reuters) - Russia's Foreign Ministry said on Thursday it hoped that U.S. President Donald Trump's administration would not make a fatal mistake over Venezuela and said Moscow was concerned about U.S. decisions that threatened international shipping.
Trump on Tuesday ordered a "blockade" of all sanctioned oil tankers entering and leaving Venezuela as Washington tries to increase pressure on President Nicolas Maduro's government.'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgmZsGPg-q4

>>1470920
They'll just ignore it loke the loyal sycophants they are. Trump lives in a consequence free world. He once said he could shoot a man in broad daylight and get away with it, and at this point he's probably right.

Trump should post a pic of Maduro to Truth Social lmao

>>1470920
How can it be a warcrime if there is no war?

>>1470917
What Geneva code did trump break? I'm failing to see how this is a war crime when there is no war. Are you saying he committed a crime by capturing another president and his wife?

Kidnapping a foreign President. Under Trump, the US is now officially a terrorist state.

>>1470941
Are you retarded? The us is not a terrorist state

I'm not a commie but Lenin was right: imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism

>>1470943
I'm not a commie I'm just gonna drop communist propaganda here.

>>1470942
The US have just kidnapped the elected President of a Sovereign country.
That is an illegal act of terrorism.

This is a huge win for the us. A lot of retards crying war crime are the same fucking retards who say there isn't fraud in Minnesota and Ohio. You fucking idiots. Why work hard and make a living when you all come up with pretty ideas like four months paid time off for works, let's call anyone who stops us a bigot. Let's call this most recent operation a war crime even though there is no fucking war.

>>1470946
This is the fucking idiot I'm talking about, the us has been fighting narco terrorism for years. Drugs have been moving into the country but I don't see you talking about that? Also terrorism is tied to in-state actors also this was a military operation focused directly on a target the us is not terrorizing which I mean attacking Venezuelan citizens. You fucking knuckle dragger

rare Trump win, fuck this corrupt faggot

>>1470920
>i wonder how maga will spin this
You just got your answer ^^

>>1470942
If I were a Venezuelan, I'd be feeling pretty damn terrorized right about now.

>>1470952
You're an overweight faggot and a cuck

>>1470953
This is a win. Fuck u fag

>>1470948
There was an explosion at a civilian airport.
inb4 it's okay to blow up random planes cuz they probably have drug boats in them.

>>1470922
I can‘t see a logical pattern in Trumps „war on drugs“ when he pardons real convicted drug lords but catches unprooved ones…maybe you have to be a MAGA freak to see the pattern or so…

>>1470956
You mean the military air base? Still a military operation. In before the fat cucks want to lie more.

>>1470920
Stop asking this question. They are mindless subhuman golems and the ones that aren’t bots aren’t capable of independent thought.

>>1470940
>Are you saying he committed a crime by capturing another president and his wife?

Yes. Are you dense? Or just another disingenuous mossad agent? Imagine if Iran somehow kidnapped Trump. Are you saying you wouldn't see that as an act of war?

>>1470959
Higuerote is a public airport. Time to bust out the imaginary drug planes.

>>1470962
Holy shit they really do just lie.

>>1470961
So now we are talking about an act of war and NOT. A war crime. Are you a Indian larping as an American? SAAR

>>1470942
By the literal definition, yes they are.

>>1470948
If Trump cares so much about stopping drygs, why did he just pardon the famous drug lord president of Honduras? >>1470922 we're not blind. Everyone knows this isn't about drugs and thr US is officially a terrorist state.

>>1470948
President Juan Orlando Hernandez was convicted of conspiring to smuggle 400+ tons of cocaine into the US. Trump let him out. (I don't buy that this is about drugs.)

>>1470965
It's both an act of war and a war crime. I'm Canadian and probably a lot whiter (less jewish) than you are. The US had zero real reason to do this. It is a war crime which is an act of war. Blowing up boats full of people, even if they did have drugs which again there is still zero evidence of is also a war crime. They have been committing war crimes as acts of terrorism for weeks.

>>1470966
You just love moving the goal post, crying war crime! No it's not. Crying terrorist! No it's not. My wifes boyfriend won't let me stay up past 10! Wipe the drool from your mouth when you finish reading this faggot

>>1470917
Bro they're trying to charge him with possessing machine guns, what the fuck is wrong with them

Based. I voted for this. Maduro has been shipping drugs into the US for years. He and all of Venezuela can get fucked. Leftoids coping and seething!

>>1470969
Okay. Let's pretend you're being sincere. Imagine if Iran started bombing American fishing boats claiming that US pharmaceutical drugs are being smuggled into their country. They give no evidence any of the dead US citizens were anything other than normal fishermen. What kind of act would you consider that? If you wouldn't call that terrorism, what would you call it?

Then let's say they decide that wasn't enough, so they bomb Washington, swoop in and abduct Donald, Milenea and Baron. What would you call that act? Would it be justified?

>>1470976
It wouldn't happen in the us because of our military and Hugo Chavez didn't pick a bus driver to be our president. Our president was elected unlike maduro.

>>1470973
Trump literally pardened the Honduran president after he imported tons of cocaine and fent into our country because that drug dealer complimented Trump.

This has nothing to do with fighting drugs you stupid mother fucker. This is about stealing Venezuelan oil. They already seized oil tankers. This is another Iraq boondoggle. Go fuck yourself

>>1470976
If America was smuggling drugs into Iran and refusing to cooperate to reduce said smuggling, yes it would be 100% justified.

>>1470980
Based I voted for that too! Keep yapping though lol

>>1470946
>elected

The US captured Spinegi…

>>1470982
This is a jidf chatbot

'No More foreign wars' -Trump, 2024

>>1470986
I want their OIL.

The thing is, it just makes me see the dichotomy between what gets posted online in approved platforms like Reddit, which is either captured or run by bots or they ban the people they disagree with or all of those

You can see the celebrations going on, in Venezuela

Whatever people think of a certain thing (and especially politics), you can be dumb and wrong as long as it's organic and I don't trust platforms to be that anymore

We've been lied to so much over the last few years that I no longer trust the mainstream views on damn near anything

>>1470979
Way to totally avoid the question. I suppose what you mean is it's fine for the US to invade and capture the president of another country because they are powerful enough.

>>1470981
So in your mind, many countries should feel fully justified in attacking the US based on drug trafficking, given it's government's long history with it.

CIA-Contra-Crack Cocaine Controversy https://share.google/W9DvDKygG6CTAWJOu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking

The difference with the US drug trafficking though is that there's evidence. In the case of Venezuela, the only evidence of any kind has been Trump insisting that's the case.

>>1470986
>I'm gonna go start a war with Venezuela
>A war in Venezuela?! But your campaign said No New Wars!
>Oh! They got this all screwed up...
>(Patented Trump Sharpie intensifies)
>NO, NEW WARS!

>>1470985
Cope and seethe tranny lol

>>1470989
>Wikipedia
>reliable information source
You're a shill

With the ammount of crying som of yall are doing, I am starting to think the joke about Trump could cure cancer and people would make it into a bad thing is true lol. Fuck Trump but fuck Maduro too!

>>1470987
Nothing wrong with taking their oil. I voted for this ;^)

>>1470989
Ur question just distracts from the point. We're going to war with Venezuela and you can keep yapping. I'm gonna do my best to support our country. No one even saw maduro as a legit president because he's not

>>1470995
Even Venezuelans are happy Trump captured their un elected shithead "president".

>>1470990
This isn't a war idiot. It's a targeted operation. Venezuela won't do shit.

>>1470920
Why spin it? They think war crimes and abuses of power are badass.

>>1470990
It's not a war, it's a Special Military Operation...

>>1470997
>Bombs a sovereign country, flies troops in, kidnaps leader
Well what the fuck do you call that then?

>>1470920
>we just did a war crime
You said the same when they got bin Laden?

>>1470998
>Venezuelan citizens are happy Trump removed their unelected dictator
>Somehow this pisses leftoids off
Y'all really are the party of advocating human suffering aren't you?

>>1471003
Removing an unelected dictator from power, to the applause of the citizens who where suffering under Maduro's boot.

>>1471003
Oh my God, Trump kidnapped Guaido?

I forget now MAGAts, please remind me: who said in 2024 - and made it a campaign policy - 'No more foreign wars'? In his campaigns Trump even railed against forever wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
MAGA hated George W Bush almost as much as they hate Obama and Hillary.
Can't wait to hear the migger cope in a couple of years about how they "never supported this war"
and "always knew it was a bad idea" just like they did with Iraq.

>>1471009
Can you point to the war, idiot leftist shill?

>>1471006
I don't care about Maduro. I just hate Trump for being a raging fucking psychopath with millions of brainless ass lickers.

>>1470988
>You can see the celebrations going on, in Venezuela
two wrongs don't make a right. If china bombed the white house and took trump and and his wife many people would be cheering but it doesn't mean that what china did wasn't an act of war. you can acknowledge that he wasn't a good guy for venezuela but a country invading another without just cause isn't right

'No more foreign wars'
>bombing a country is an act of war: just as launching cruise missiles at Syria nearly a decade ago was an act of war: and MAGAts then disapproved of such
>>1471010
Can you point to the campaign policy quote, rightist shill?

>>1471012
>invading another without just cause isn't right
There was just cause though.

>>1471014
muh drugs isn't a just cause

>MAGAts ITT
So it would be okay if the movie Olympus Has Fallen was a documentary, and Trump was captured & taken to another country.
>It's okay for Trump to have another country's leader to be captured & taken out of his country!
>If you so much as think about the same happening to Trump, you're a leftist terrorist!
The duality of the rightard hypocrite.
There is just cause in the same happening to Trump. Disagree, cultists, and your hypocrisy's showing.

>>1470917
Did all of you conveniently forget Maduro stole Venezuela's previous election? You're supporting a person who was successful with his own Jan 6th.

>>1470997
>It's not a war, it's a special military operation!

Where have I heard this before

>>1471017
so it's okay for another country to take the US's then? Trump's own case was killed in court because he became pres again

>>1471018
where? oh you need time to ask chatgpt? take the foot out of your mouth while you do that champ

>where? oh you need time to ask chatgpt? take the foot out of your mouth while you do that champ
Hello, Ivan.

>>1471018
This one was successful though. Putin probably crying right now lmao!

>>1471016
You don't even have to speculate about how they would respond. Remember when they tried to blame Iran for the assassination attempt on Trump? MAGA commentators were calling for Tehran to be turned into Dresden over that, and Trump wasn't even the president at the time.

>>1471013
>can't answer the question
I accept you concession :^)

>>1471018
>surgical operation
>no American casualties
>no retaliation
All leftoids are fucking retards

>>1471011
Rent free :^)

>>1471022
>Putin probably crying right now lmao!
Just imagine if US boots were on the ground in Ukraine, Putain. You'd fucking shoot yourself in a hole under the Kremlin. Remember the 'Great Patriotic War' and how that ended, Vlad. No? Well, there you go. Those who forgert the past are indeed doomed to repeat it.

Venezuelans are happy they can heal as a nation. Petro is next

>Can you point to the war, idiot leftist shill?
>counterpoint: there's a war in Venezuela, just as there's one in Ukraine. So much as thinking there aren't, your opinions are eternally wrong
I accept your concession. Just as Zelenskyy accepts Putin's concession one second after 'the whole of Ukraine conquered in 72 hours', least of all nearly four years later. Now in a war that is Putin's own Vietnam
You're the reason subhuman rightards don't have the right to have their wrong opinions listened to.
It's impossible for me to concede an 'argument' with an inferior subhuman rightard because they had and never will have an 'argument' that will be accepted, least of all be considered credible by those with superior minds that will never allow rightards' eternally wrong opinions to exist in them.
No matter what you say, how you spin things, you will always concede, and I accept it. The fact you'll always be wrong is acceptable too. If you could never be wrong, the world would be exactly as you would wish it to be. So why isn't it?

Democrats are happy MAGA Muttland can fail as a nation. Trump is next

Wow that's a lot of yapping lol. Get fucked shill lol.

>>1471034
TDS in full swing with leftoid looneys! Rent free!

>>1470920
You already know. They will say its a good thing amd we are helping that country. Even though Trump and all of the military should be hanging for war crimes

>>1470928
Fed boys cant do shit about freedom of speech. They can face the wall with trump.

Do you want those Venezuelans who escaped that country because of Maduro and came to US to stay here, or want Trump to deport them?

Vance has just said, " The president offered multiple off ramps, but was very clear throughout this process: the drug trafficking must stop, and the stolen oil must be returned to the United States. Maduro is the newest person to find out that President Trump means what he says.

Kudos to our brave special operators who pulled off a truly impressive operation. "

>>1470917
This is like the one thing I can agree with Trump on. A better outcome to this whole situation than the entirety of Afghanistan and Iran

>>1470942
Look we get it. Youre a fed or a jew but capturing another nation's leader is an act of war. So kill yourself for being disingenuous or a faggot.

>DDS in full swing with MAGAloid looneys! Rent free!
Republicans will be evicting Trump in the coming months, though.

>the drug trafficking must stop
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/former-honduran-president-released-us-prison-after-trump-pardon-2025-12-02/
The drug trafficking must continue -Trump

>>1470955
Kill your self. Unironically. Do it.

>the political blowback from this
>the midterms
May you live in interesting times, cultists.

>>1471040
Vance can face the wall too. They're all fuxking lying. The us is fucking pathetic.

>>1471045ad because Venezuela is free from maduro, couldn't be me shill

>>1471046
>political blowback
I can't think of anyone who is sad to see this happen.

>>1471018
I'ts a special military operation in coordination with Venezuela's actual government.

I don't think you realize this or you don't care: Venezuela hates Maduro too. He stays in power due to authority and nothing else. He already lost one election and just said "Ok, I'm not leaving." So if you think anyone in that country gives a shit that he's behind bars, you're wrong.

>>1471043
Probably not, in fact expect many Democrats to jump ship after this.

>>1471039
It's even worse than people think. The only reason he held a shred of power was sorely because Venezuela didn't want to cross the rubicon of "Let's just start evicting our corrupt piece of shit government" while being ran by a corrupt piece of shit government. I don't see why anyone on this planet would defend Maduro of all people. It's not even like he's dead.

>>1471050
Democrats will be furious as their supply of drugs dwindle and the murder rate continues to plummet

>>1471051
I doubt anyone will miss Maduro. But the approach of superpowers justifying acts of war as removing governments they deem illegitimate and replacing them with "legitimate" governments under their own control is the oldest trick in the book.

Probably not, in fact expect many Republicans who voted on the basis of forever conflicts to cease to jump ship after this

>>1470917
Might makes right

>>1471057
Venezuela is celebrating right now. Talk about cognitive dissonance.

>Pete Kegsbreath recently seen with a small container of a powdery substance
https://i.postimg.cc/nVPhNWDT/new-york-times-hegseth-uses-powder.png
Either (check one):
[ ] It's makeup, thus Kegsbreath is a homo
[ ] It's Bolivian Marching Powder
Choose wisely, MAGAts. A reminder
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/former-honduran-president-released-us-prison-after-trump-pardon-2025-12-02/

>many Republicans who voted on the basis of forever conflicts to cease to jump ship after this
Democrats are celebrating right now. Talk about cognitive dissonance.

>>1471062
Rent free :) sorry that making Venezuela a better nation disturbs you.

>>1470920
He had it coming. That’s all the justification we need

>>1471062
>Democrats are celebrating right now
The posters in the thread who likely vote Democrat seem to be upset

>>1471065
Because you believe Trump’s motivations are to make Venezuela a better place? The purpose of these actions is to help the Venezuelan community? Because Trump cares about brown Spanish speaking people on another continent so much? Your really believe that? Or like your other MAGA cult shills above, do you acknowledge this is about stealing oil and the same actions conservatives did in Iraq? And you are pro invasion to steal oil like other conservatives say above you? It can only be one of those things, which talking point are you going to cling to?

>>1470918
Against whom? Venezuela?

>>1471068
Wow ur a racist now? Interesting! Yeah you can see right now that Venezuelans are grateful and celebrating the capture of maduro.

The Democrats living rent free in the heads of rightards who likely vote MAGA will be upset by their orange god handing the Democrats political power on a silver platter to them in the midterms. And because of Republicans who voted on the basis of 'forever conflicts to cease' being betrayed, thus won't be voting Republican. Sorry that someone not thinking the way you do upsets you no I'm not

>this will further weaken political support for Trump in US
>the midterm massacre lessens political power for Republicans
sorry that your own president helping your enemy making US a better nation disturbs you

>>1471072
Two more weeks nigger lol.

>>1471058
This, and Venezuelans are celebrating the removal of the unelected dictator.

>>1471046
>Goo goo ga ga midterms waaaaah!
lol

>>1471077
So we should invade and kidnap every leader around the world who illegally has power? When are we going after Putin? Or Bibi? The people will cheer when we take out Kim Jong, why are we not attacking those leaders? This is about inserting ourselves into other countries to liberate their people right? MAGA stands for help all other countries, right? This is what you voted for, helping foreign nations, right?

>>1471079
Lol how sad is your life? We just helped Venezuela and the us. You also sound uneducated.

1471076
1471078
rent free lol ;^)

1471082
Lol how sad is your life? You just helped Democrats and the US. You also sound uneducated.

>>1470920
Hahaha, this is not a war crime.

>>1471079
I voted to consolidate the power of the best country in the world, the United States of America and her allies. We obviously can't be the world police, but we can strategically help people like in the case of removing Meduro. I find it telling that leftoids like you support the continued rule of dictators like Meduro. Now reply to me and shit yourself with your seething lol.

>>1470922
>potentially damages Washington’s credibility in Latin America
Nobody in Latin America cared about this

>>1470992
Wikipedia sucks, but there are plenty of links there to sources. The first link is more informative anyway, the Wikipedia article is just to show how blatantly out in the open this has been.

Of course, you don't care because as with the prez of Honduras, you don't care about drugs at all.

>>1470995
Yeah you're starting an illegal.war over false pretenses. More people in Venezuela see Maduro as valid than Americans think Trump is.

>>1470943
lol, communists are the most imperialist of all ideologies

>>1471084
Dude just changes what he says with Democrats and repeats him. It's got to be a chatbot

turdies big mad ITT

>>1471058
>>1471077
>there's totes nothing wrong with Trump fixing the coming elections!
>>1470752
There's nothing wrong with the Democrats fixing elections thus removing a dictator. Thanks for admitting that. By Any Means Necessary, amirite?

How the fuck did they even get to Maduro so easily? I thought these Latin America "El Presidente" types had the army watching over them at all time.

>>1471086
>>1471090
>>1471091
seething lol

>>1471086
Illegal orders to invade a foreign country and cause regime change to seize their oil and enrich the oil companies and Trump’s rich friends while hurting our standing around the world and making us look weak and desperate.

You: why do you love Maduro?!?

Fucking idiot. We can’t be the world police but we can invade oil rich countries that benefit Trump’s buddies for freedom? Lick boots you pathetic fascist.

>communists are the most imperialist of all ideologies
Just ask a certain ex-KGB officer with ideas above its station, and has forgotten about the Great Patriotic War, certainly how that ended.
'Conquering' Ukraine in just 72 hours, amirite?

>>1471086
The people of Venezuela like him, Trump is the one who doesn't like him because he won't give up all their oil. This is literal theft. Not that it's anything new for the US, but that doesn't make it any less evil.

>>1471099
found another retard. look at venezuela for one second and you will see them celebrating.

>>1471095
retard lol

>>1471094
How did the largest military on earth possibly get through the presidential guards of a tiny south american country? Geee what a mystery! You Trump shills really are fucking stupid beyond comprehension.

1471101 has to be a chatbot

>>1471099
Oh, that's why Venezuelans are celebrating Maduro's removal then?

https://youtu.be/9vr7UbAGsyY?si=KFt0q609Jpic_KZV

>>1471104
found a seether shitting himself

1471102
rent free lol

>>1471108
seething lol

>>1471097
>PFFFFFLURRRPPBTBTBTBT
Uh oh stinky! Lmao keep shitting yourself dummy

>shitting
1471107 is the jeet shill displaying his weird & unsanitary obsessions again

>>1471086
>We obviously can't be the world police, but we can strategically help people
This is literally being world police.

1471107
1471110
>Stinky!
>shitting
Keep proving you're the depraved & unclean jeet shill obsessed with such

>>1471112
No it isn't. This was a 3 hour operation that had a very specific purpose and benefit.

>>1471113
Lol he's still replying!

do turdies not understand the difference between arrest and kidnap? maduro has had an outstanding DOJ indictment against him since 2020

>>1471114
>Guys we just removed the head of a foreign country, and surely now that will be the end of it and nothing else will happen

Seething jeet shills and kikes

>>1471112
shills ITT think Team America: World Police is a 'how to' guide. They have no concept of satire, or wouldn't complain about how Parker & Stone portray Trump in South Park
Said shills? They all have AIDS

How is kidnapping Venezuela's shitty president going to magically fix their government? The fact that he was in power in the first place suggest deeply rooted corruption at every level, and whoever eventually takes his place is probably going to be just as shitty if not worse because that's what always happens.

>>1471115
>Lol he's still replying!
Yes, you are
Any replies by rightard shills below this line are faggot homos
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>>1471110
I like how you are unable to engage in the conversation the U.S. citizens are having about our leader and his military actions. So you expose your young age and inability to communicate thinking you are “owning” someone. All you have done is stomp your little feet and demand some attention. Well here you go, a little attention for the child. Now excuse yourself while the adults discuss world politics.

>>1471106
Do you know how many people would celebrate if Trump were removed from power? There would be parties in the streets. Trump is wildly unpopular in here. All polls even Fox News polls show his approval at an all time low. Is people of a country not liking their leader the requirement for foreign nations to invade and attempt to abduct that leader?

>>1471108
This bot is broken and doesn’t have the ability to use 4 Chan correctly. Fix yourself troll bot.

>>1471121
>The fact that he was in power in the first place suggest deeply rooted corruption at every level
This isn't remotely true. Venezuela already held an election, and he lost. If it were deeply rooted at every level, he wouldn't allow an election to take place at all, much less lose one .

No, this is purely at the Military level, and the strikes are not just to capture Maduro but to show that they're weak pieces of shit with no clout whatsoever.

>>1471121
The next president won't get so cocky.

>>1470982
retard

>>1471125
So your narrative is:

“Trump cares about the world, he cares about all countries but he can’t help all countries. He is only one man doing his best, he has stopped 8 wars and is trying o stop war and conflicts everywhere. He saw the opportunity to help the poor people of Venezuela and to stop the horrible drug trade from Venezuela that is a very big problem. Yes he also pardoned a notorious drug dealer leader of another country just weeks ago. But that was because the drug dealer South American leader was wrongly accused by Biden! This south ameircna drug dealer leader is an actual bad guy and Trump was fully justified to send troops to abduct the leader in a foreign country, for freedom and for consolidating American power which is a good thing!”

That’s what you conservatives are saying? Those are the mental gymnastics I am watching?

>>1471024
very gay womanly way to argue
>hehe i accept that you lose :P
what a fag lol

>>1471132
dude your arguing with someone with room temperature (celsius) iq. it doesnt matter that he's a bootlicking shill who will take any number of dicks up his ass, at the end of the day, he'll think he's right

1471128
>The next president won't get so cocky
But enough about JD Weird. If he takes over after Trump is given the 25th Amemdment treatment or croaks.

>>1471121
>>1471125
You realize just getting Maduro doesn't automatically delete the rest of his infrastructure and powerbase, right? Every way and force behind him being in power is still there, and even if the US locks him up forever, will likely just find a new leader.

>>1471138
>even if the US locks him up forever, will likely just find a new leader.
>what happened immediately after Richard 'I Am Not A Crook!' Nixon was forced out of power by his own party
You forgot the vice president of Venezuela, Trumpo.
You fucked up. Bigly.

>>1470918
>>1470946
a well known non elected dictator you mean?

Getting rid of Maduro in a vacuum is good (even if the rest of his government is still good), but I don't like the precedent this sets. Blatant meddling in foreign affairs and infringing on sovereignty isn't something that should be celebrated, regardless of the result.

>>1471142
the bus driver for hugo chavez lol

1471142
a well known elected president you mean?

>>1471069
>>1471142
>Starting wars is okay when...
Good to know the far right continues to be the war mongering party from Reagan, Bush to Trump.

>>1471148
Talk to Israel about it

>>1471144
no one gives a fuck what you like faggot

>>1471124
Uh oh the leftoid is still shitting himself! Don't forget to dial8!

>>1471133
>STILL can't answer the question
I'm not surprised, you have to be double digit IQ to be a leftoid

>>1471123
>Midwit leftist shill shits his pants over Trump winning yet again, news at 11
I need you to go explain to the celebrating Venezuelans that Maduro being removed is actually a BAD thing lmao.

>>1471148
Obama bombed more innocent civilians than ANY other president EVER and faggot leftists like you were silent the WHOLE time. Shut the fuck up hypocrite.

>>1471161
This right here. Because obongo did something we should be allowed to invade whoever we want

>>1471161
Where do you people get this shit from?

>>1471159
>I need you to go explain to the celebrating Venezuelans that Maduro being removed is actually a BAD thing lmao.
Maybe ask the armed gang members stalking the streets and shooting anyone celebrating you fucking retard. This happens every fucking time with a regime change; people celebrate, then the forces of either the new or old regime start oppressing them, and the whole thing becomes a clusterfuck.

>>1471164
I'm still waiting for you to go explain that they actually needed to keep their murderous abusive dictator IN power hahaha.

>>1470968
I just have two words: Manuel Motherfucking Noriega.

I have a Spotify Playlist that has a lot of the sons the US military played to aggivate the shit out of him. Listening to it now, Feels good man.

>>1471165
That's their problem to solve and a forcible regime change by a foreign power legitimately never fucking works out well. ESPECIALLY when it's the US doing it for oil.

>>1471161
>Whatabout
>leftist
Hi Ivan, no one cares about your defense of the pedo trump.

>>1470917
Why does Trump sound completely out of breath at his press conference? After he was 40 minutes late too.

>>1471170
Pretty clear he's got some disease and started this war to distract from it and the epstein list.

>>1470917
Fucking hell he's falling apart live on stage
>Uh we're doing a second wave of big attacks
>but uh, we don't need to, the first one was so good...
>But uh, we're doing a second wave.

1471155
>Talk to Israel about it
You can ask Bibi's bottom bitch, Trump.
1471161
>whataboutism
>after that, cruise missiles launched at Syria in 2017
ODS right up in this bitch
1471159
I need you to explain to to the not-celebrating Republican voters who previously voted for that which claimed would give them priority first - over other countries and those who aren't American - why he doesn't care about them financially right now. You can explain to them why they should listen to your wrong opinions and not get their revenge on your orange god. And you're not going to do that on a Worst Korean basket weaving forum that said Republican voters have never heard of. I don't care about any of your wrong opinions - and why should I? - so why are you wasting your time here instead of going outside, touching grass and explaining to those Republican voters why they should listen to your wrong opinions.

>>1471169
And the fact that the Ivan doesn't condemn but instead condones the pedo Putin:
https://www.military.com/video/off-duty/odd/akward-moments-with-vladimir-putin/3129473236001
says so much about that Ivan.

>>1471169
>pedo
Proof?

The neocons are back in business, baby!

>>1470917
And Trump is now openly admitting Venezuela is going to be under US military rule.

>>1471168
>they will install a handful of oligarchs and hangers-on who will run the country entirely for their own benefit
>they will divide and confuse the population as they steal its birthright
>then they will do the same in Venezuela

>>1470968
Brother u r sheltered and retarded. There are no war crimes happening because there is no war. Wipe the drool from your lip man.

>>1471183
>There's no war
>We're just forcibly occupying a foreign nation for the indeterminate future

Hi Ivan
GUYS I DID IT! IM A COOL LEFTISTS WITH ZINGERS! IM NOT SHITTING AND SEETHING MY PANTS WHEN WE GOT THESE NIFTY GOTCHAS!

>>1470917
>wake up in the morning
>see this happened
What the fuck?

>>1470917
The president and Rubio are live right now saying Cuba is next.
The Peace President everyone

>>1471183
So much this. It’s actually just enhanced negotiations and some mild disagreements regarding consent. Also what are you going to do about it

>it wasn't rape, it was just a snuggle struggle

>>1471189
Broke the leftists, they're just saying random shit. A bunch of Jerrys

>>1471190
It was a joke retard

>muh drugs
>muh cartels
so when are we attacking mexico?

>Trump pressed on how US will run Venezuela

>Trump is now taking questions. He's asked if the US running Venezuela means US troops will be on the ground.

>He says "we're not afraid of boots on the ground" and the US military had "boots on the ground last night at a very high level".

>"We're going to make sure that country is run properly," he adds.

>Trump is also asked what exact mechanism he will be using to run the country. He says "we're designating people right now" and "we're going to let you know who those people are".

>He is then asked who will run Venezuela. He gestures his hand towards himself and US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, as he says "it's largely going to be for a period time the people that are standing right behind me".
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c5yqygxe41pt

Did we just annex venezuela?

>>1471191
Sure bud

>>1471193
No. We're not incorporating it into the US terrorities, we're just occupying it.
Like Afghanistan. And Iraq.
Goddamnit Trump

are we the baddies?

>>1471190
It really just shines a light on how paper thin the policy of the right really is. Republican voters got sold America First - keeping America out of foreign entanglements, reducing illegal immigration, and less government interference and waste and what they got was another oil war, military troops conducting papers please activities against legal citizens, and more government spending.

But hey, libs are seething, am I right?

>>1471195
>not incorporating it into the US terrorities
for now

>>1471198
Not at all.
Venezuela is a socialist-leaning country. It's not going to become a state, let alone a territory, because those fucks keep causing problems in America already.
It's the same shit with his talks about annexing canada. Why the fuck would anybody want the 51st state to be another california?

Oh holy shit I just realized.
This isn't just like afghanistan and iraq. He's literally dropping all pretense and going after the oil explicitly.
How fucking retarded do you have to be to support this.

>>1471197
America First was never isolationism, it was putting American interests first.
Securing our energy by going after Maduro’s oil revenue (used to fund Iran & Russia) isn’t ‘another oil war,’ it’s preventing our adversaries from getting richer while millions of Venezuelans flood our border.
Troops assisting with mass deportations and border security? That’s literally delivering on the #1 voter priority: stopping illegal immigration. ‘Papers please’ is what happens when you enforce laws that were ignored for years.
Spending is still too high, no question, but the deficit actually dropped this year and they’re cutting trillions in waste, something the last administration never even tried while adding $8T to the debt.
Funny how the same people who cheered endless Ukraine funding and open borders are now mad we’re finally putting America first. Cry harder.

>>1471201
>See American first is actually spending billions of dollars and likely a decent amount of US troops' lives occupying Venezuela to enrich oil companies, who won't even be paying us for the privilege

He's going after China's minerals next.

>>1471206
Actually, it's not an 'occupation', it was targeted airstrikes that captured Maduro overnight, with no reported U.S. troop casualties so far. We've been seizing sanctioned oil tankers and enforcing a blockade for weeks, not invading with ground troops. Costs? Billions aren't being thrown at endless war; this is about securing Venezuelan oil under U.S. control to cut off funding for Iran and Russia, and yes, American firms will help rebuild, but Trump says we'll be 'running' it, not handing it over for free. That's America First: taking out a socialist dictator who's fueled our border crisis, without the quagmire you're imagining.

>>1471201
Hey remember when America First was no more foreign wars?

BTW I think it's funny that Trump thinks destabilizing the region is going to result in LESS immigrants from Venezuela.

>>1471210
it's just another nixon goes to china moment. republicans see their lack of integrity as a superpower

>>1471209
He literally said they're going to put boots on the ground and the US will be running the country, with no support from the current government (which, reminder, is still Maduros. His VP is in power now with all the same resources Maduro had). That is an occupation by definition, and if you think this isn't going to become another Afghanistan or Iraq, you're high.

>>1471209
>it’s not an occupation
>we are just running the government backed by US armed forces

>>1471200
Maga levels of retarded.

>>1471199
Why wouldnt you want a good state like California? You realize the rest of the world laughs at all the inbred red states as much as the us does?

>>1471200
>oil in afghanistan

>>1470988
How did you come to the conclusion that 4chan isnt a bot haven too?
Only 20% of the posts in this thread are from the US and unironic.

https://i.postimg.cc/TP6dPgTs/trump-vance.jpg
Venezuela has one of the largest oil reserves outside of the middle east and Russia. This is a tactical decision to allow the US to invade Iran without creating too much economic pressure on the citizens. I hope miggers are ready to die for Israel in the middle east lmao.

>We've been lied to so much over the last few years that I no longer trust the mainstream views on damn near anything
>We've
The only lies are what you think is so-called 'Truth'. Newsflash: 'Truth' is lies.
Rightard lies from whatever source/platform never had the right to be listened to in the first place, and rightards here in 4chan have a subatomic particle sized chance of persuading the most important - and only - people that matter, than thinking their lies will be accepted by me. Those people? Republican voters who won't be voting Republican for the foreseeable future. And considering how they're financially suffering because an orange liar, why should they?
Have you paid your $20.25 'Personal Sacrifice' donation to Trump, MAGAts in /news/? If not, why not? And why should those Republican voters? Why shouldn't they get their revenge on that you worship so much? The only way you'll stop them from doing so is getting off that computer and going outside to knock on doors and say to their faces that only you can be right and they're wrong.
But how can they be 'wrong' when they see your orange god giving $40 billion of their tax dollars to Argentina, and billions more to Israel. Why shouldn't they 'America First'? Trump doesn't give a fuck for his own people, so why should we give a fuck for him?'
...least of all you, cultists in /news/?

>>1471219
Iran is currently falling apart without US intervention

>>1471219
>Venezuela has one of the largest oil reserves outside of the middle east and Russia.
Oil is as common as salt water in America. All we need to do is drill for it, but Biden shit up the oil industry.

>Oil is as common as salt water in America
I wonder why Tesla don't need internal combustion engines, and why so many MAGAts buy Cybertrucks to 'own the libs'?
I'm reminded of an election poster slogan from 1960:
https://i.postimg.cc/ZKpCR7PT/trump-tesla.jpg
Would you buy a used car from this man?

>>1471225
I can't think of a single person who has benefitted from environmental regulations. God gave us these lands to do with as we please, and it is an affront to nature to stop job creation. Biden is a traitor who destroyed the economy with his insane communist hippy policies

>>1471228
>I can't think of a single person who has benefitted from environmental regulations.
>I LOVE POLLUTED GROUNDWATER! I LOVE DYING ECOSYSTEMS! I LOVE SMOG THAT GIVES YOU LUNG CONDITIONS JUST FROM GOING OUTSIDE!

>>1471228
>hippy policies
But enough about Trump buying a Tesla

>>1471227
Elon wants to imports a million jeets because he thinks white Americans are lazy and entitled. Not MAGA.

>>1470917
Him getting overthrown is good news. What's come's next, not sure for that nation, but fuck that bus driver asshole. He as a tyrant. Good riddance. He probably would have been overthrown by the CIA regardless of who was in the WH.

>>1471229
>noooo you can't just drill for oil, NYC is under twelve feet of seawater as we speak
>reeee ban all nuclear plants they're encroaching on our profits from green energy reeeeeeeEEEE

1471228
>God
>breaking the first of the ol' Big 10, or MAGAts would consider that orange thing to be an inferior subhuman
Either (check one):
[ ] Admit that orange thing is an inferior subhuman and not even worthy of acknowledgement of his existence
[ ] You worship Trump more than God, thus you're going to Hell
Choose wisely.
And Trump wonders if he's going to Heaven or not

1471231
Why did Trump buy a Tesla? And isn't opposed to umlimited jeets and 600,000Chines students coming to US?
You voted for this, therefore Trump isn't MAGA or he wouldn't have given $40 billion of MAGAts' tax dollars to Argentina, and billions more to Israel. That's not MAGA, thus Trump isn't MAGA. And - by refusing to condemn Trump for thinking about others more than Americans - ergo you aren't MAGA.
>thinking about future generations of Americans
Biden was more MAGA than you or Trump will ever be.

>>1470939
>The Republican president said the U.S. had lost no aircraft, but that a helicopter was “hit pretty hard."
>“We had to do it because it’s a war," he added.

Do americans not get taught about the 1989/90 invasion of Panama?
Have they never heard of Manuel Antonio Noriega?

>>1470968
Do you think the USS Liberty was a war crime?

>>1471201
>Russia
>adversary
>only based tradpilled country in the west
>led by based Tsar of all time Putin
>attacks leftists states
>gives money to conservative movements around world
>has 4chan stamp of approval
lol

>>1470918
first time? its onbrand for america just look at banana wars and how every anti western terroristic organization got formed. at its roots you'll find US destroying and interfearing with foreign governments or going in taking someone out and saying peace out power vacuum what's that?
funny how the US just got out of iraq and now is going back into another country likely for oil related reasons AGAIn

reading reactions from the rest of the worlds leaders, it seems like the majority are pretty mute or are happy maduro is out. will just have to see how things pan out now

>>1471241
We probably don't, on the whole. When I was in high school, US history only went up to the mid 1970s. We ran out of time, though, so maybe other schools get further.

>>1471103
Why do you think America lost in Vietnam, and in Afghanistan and Iraq?
How did the largest military on earth possibly get bogged down by farmers with AKs, and goat herders with IEDs?

>>1470928
this comment just put you on the terrorist watch list, I hope you enjoy the gulags for your TDS conspiracy theories

Venezuela about to get fucked up like Ukraine. You live in a shitass weak country, then maybe you should watch yourself. The strong take what they want, the weak endure what they must. That has been the rule of nature since the beginning of time.

>>1470929
russia's main pull on the US is oil, Canada is US's main oil trader and I fully expect US to bully the elbow up stupidass, mr.burns wannabe into signing over canadian oil rights for the sake of the environment.
so why wouldn't russia be against US taking over venezuela's oil and lessening their dependency.

>>1470941
first time? retard
>>1470942
Its the evil empire,
>>1470946
oh wow its the first time they've done that isn't it. They definitely haven't made up reasons to destabilize other countries ever since their existence.

>>1470947
those retards are complicit and frankly should be investigated and if they have any remote ties or online terroristic behavior get thrown in prison and executed

>>1471241
Dude trust me this time the regime change will work lmao

>>1471251
great job radicalizing more people anon, Its going to be such a tragedy when you're butchered and fed to the dogs. And people wonder why americans are the most hated tourists in the world

>>1470917
Did we not learn a goddamn thing from Iraq?!

>>1471257
Venezuelans are cheering in the streets.

>>1471251
> the strong take what they want
> russia still hasn't captured ukraine or it's president

this whole maduro operation highlights the gap between the us and russia perfectly

>>1471259
They were doing the same in Libya and Iraq. Look how that turned out. Maduro being out is a good thing. The US doing it and taking over isn't.

ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION CANADA?

>>1471255
Are you implying the regime change in 1990 of Noriega in Panama didn't work?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_Endara
Though his coalition was judged by international observers as having defeated pro-Noriega candidate Carlos Duque, the results were annulled by the government, and Endara and his running mates were attacked in the streets by the paramilitary Dignity Battalions. The assaults received widespread coverage in international media, helping to build support within the U.S. for military action against Noriega. Seven months later, the United States invaded Panama. Endara was sworn in as the new president on the first night of the invasion on a U.S. military base.

During his presidency, Endara abolished the Panamanian military and replaced it with a national police force. Endara's term saw steady economic growth and a return of democratic institutions, but also high unemployment rates. His administration was marked by internal fighting, and his popularity plummeted. He was succeeded by opposition candidate Ernesto Pérez Balladares in 1994.
It seems like Noriega's replacement did a decent job.

>>1471265
Canada, Mexico, and Greenland are next. For the safety of our children, we must secure our borders and lebensraum.

>>1471265
You won't do shit.

>>1471268
>tfw listening to Brazilian phonk from my chinese-made phone while riding in a chinook assembled by mexican hands to take Canada as revenge for burning down the White House in 1812

>>1471269
I DRINK YOUR MAPLE SYRUP
>SHLUUUURP
I DRINK IT UP

>most of 4chan supports invading Venezuela and Canada
I'm so happy that 4chan is a contrarian site.

>>1471273
Vance, Miller, and a lot of Republican staffers are 4channers, so 4chan is probably a more accurate read on the direction of the country than whatever consensus opinion is.

Empires at the beginning and end of their lives always engage in wars of conquests.

>>1471268
>lets take over canada and be forced to raise their wage by 20% to do exactly what we're already paying them to do
ok...?

>>1471265
if you live in canada you know the "free" healthcare is a joke people have died in the emergency waiting room because of the wait. the same party that tanked the economy for the last 8 years is openly advertising to immigrants saying come to canada we have free healthcare all the while there's a braindrain to the US.
you think trump is a worry? no one gives a fuck anymore the country is ran by retarded selfish boomers who literally may as well of voted for the we hate trump party.
they put "dealing with trump" above immigrant housing economy jobs and health care in terms of reasons they voted.

>>1471251
I cant wait to pull the trigger while you and your kind face the wall

>>1471259
Shut the fuck up no they are not. The people are terrified and waiting more strikes tonight. Since the US is too pussy to do it in the day.

>>1471281
In case you haven't notice, Trump is threatening to invade Iran for the same thing he openly advocated for a few months ago.
Maybe cool it down a bit, commie.

>>1471282
>Since the US is too pussy to do it in the day.
lol
>"FIGHT US FAIR YOU PUSSY!"
L M A O

>>1471274
Is that why they are all such raging faggots who love back cock? Makes sense now.

>>1471283
If you haven't noticed. His time is coming up and all of maga will face trial for war crimes and treason. Pray they kill you quickly.

>>1471286
>unironically threatening POTUS on a FBI honeypot
Good luck with that shit, retard

>>1471286
can you touch your toes?

>>1471286
Like how you charged Dubya for war crimes and treason?

>>1471250
>TDS
Is there a more pathetic forced meme than this?

>>1471291
Answer, there isn't.

>>1471289
If democrats had balls, we wouldn't be in this sitution with trump.
>Let Reagan off the hook of Iran Contra
>Let George HW Bush off the hook for running Iran Contra
>Let George W Bush off the hook for his war crimes
>Let trump off the hook for his failed coup

>>1471289
>>1471292
No one better to finally set example with than Trump. Failure to address this once again will only result in it happening again, just like before.

>>1471228
>God gave us these lands to do with as we please
>Genesis 2:15 "The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and take care of it"

>>1471295
>No one better to finally set example with than Trump.
How? Impeach him? He was elected by the majority of the country after that happened.

>>1471287
Explain how thats a threat glowing fed boy?

>>1471298
>"his time will come"
>threatening a slow death
Hope the black bag is comfy anon.

>>1471297
>Majority
LOL

>>1471299
Oh so you're just fucking retarded. Got it.

>>1471297
Impeach and remove this time. Then make him stand trial for illegal wars and open corruption. Stop letting him get off easy on the grounds of "unity" and actually enforce the law.

>>1471132
>>1471134
>>1471138
I'm not even conservative, the guy objectively lost an election and only has power from the military, which is thoroughly emasculated right now.

I don't agree with it but I get it: It's a surgical strike meant to hopefully make the rest of the government step up. I don't think this will work, because I don't think any regime change has worked in our favor long-term.
>“Trump cares about the world, he cares about all countries but he can’t help all countries.
The other problem is that you're certifiably mentally ill. I didn't mention Trump at all nor do I like the guy and his leadership. That doesn't change that Maduro getting ousted is objectively a good thing for Venezuela.

>>1471306
>That doesn't change that Maduro getting ousted is objectively a good thing for Venezuela.
Him being removed is good. The way he was and the people doing it are not. We're going to do Libya and Iraq again.

>>1471138
>>1471141
>Every way and force behind him being in power is still there,
The only power he had was militarily, he lost multiple elections. Do you not get that? He was in control because the military pointed guns at the elected government and told them that Maduro was in charge.

Again, the problem in general is that you're mentally ill, and are using this event in world politics to project about American politics back at home because you seem to have forgotten that every single US President since WW2 started an overseas war or did regime change. That includes Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc.

>>1471307
> The way he was and the people doing it are not.
I don't agree with Trump on a lot of things, but the way he removed Maduro was objectively 100% the best way this could have been done: Black bag him in the middle of the night and fly him to the US after crippling their anti-air infrastructure.

This is what we should have done to Saddam in Iraq if leaving him alone was not an option. This is, in fact, the OPPOSITE of the Iraq War. In every way you can possibly define.

>>1471309
I'm not talking about the nature of the military operation; I'm talking about a foreign power doing it and then putting themselves in charge of the country.

>>1471308
> you seem to have forgotten that every single US President since WW2 started an overseas war or did regime change. That includes Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc.
That doesn't mean we should keep fucking doing it. Are you forgetting that every single one of those regime changes backfired horrifically? Not even just for the people living under those regimes either; this is the type of shit that literally created groups like ISIS.

>>1471310
>That doesn't mean we should keep fucking doing it.
Yeah and I would prefer not to be ruled by satanic pedophiles, but that's not changing any time soon.

>>1470920
What is the war crime? Is it violating the Geneva Convention? What rule is it breaking?

>>1471310
>That doesn't mean we should keep fucking doing it
I agree we should live in a world of sunshine and rainbows, and have leaders who are real politicians that can work things out diplomatically and through subterfuge instead of making huge shows of power by stomping some speedboats, most of which aren't even related to cartel activity, into the sea.

We don't get to live in that world and in a world where nobody is that leader, I rather it happen this way.

>Are you forgetting that every single one of those regime changes backfired horrifically?
I didn't forget, every single regime change we've done hasn't worked. That doesn't change the fact that we're going to keep trying.

>>1470946
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/23/latin-american-states-and-us-reject-maduro-vote-certification-election-venezuela-supreme-court
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-recognizes-maduros-opponent-winner-venezuela-election-2024-08-02/
What do you mean? The US and 10 South American countries acknowledged that Maduros election "win" was fraudulent and that he's an illegitimate leader
His opponent was democratically elected. Maduro refused to give up power. He's a dictator.

>>1471310
>I'm talking about a foreign power doing it and then putting themselves in charge of the country.
Well it's a good thing we didn't do that. I don't agree with regime change, and think it's awful that it's being done. It still beats committing like an Iraq and trying to occupy the state.

Textbook, it's the exact opposite of the Iraq war and how Bush fucked up the entire Middle East. Maduro is alive and will be tried, Venezuela will shake their fists and will go through a bloody civil war (funded by Uncle Sam of course) and the entire thing will likely be done through spy networks and embezzlement like how the Contras worked out. And if it makes Venezuela better or worse will be a problem for the next President.

>>1471316
>I didn't forget, every single regime change we've done hasn't worked. That doesn't change the fact that we're going to keep trying.
Literal fucking commie logic. "Guys we'll just do it again and THIS TIME it wouldn't create an even worse regime and terrorists in the aftermath. Right?"

>>1470989
A majority of drugs are smuggled into the United States by south American cartels and gangs.
It is not American drug cartels smuggling cocaine into Columbia.

>>1471321
DESTROY CENTRAL AMERICA - STOP THE STEAL!!!!

>>1471316
>>1471320
See
>>1471267
Did the regime change work when Noriega was arrested? Was his successor even worse and Panama more aggressive after Noriega's departure?

>>1471319
>And if it makes Venezuela better or worse will be a problem for the next President.
This is not a sustainable foreign policy stance.
For politicians and richfags, sure, this won't be a problem. But for the rest of us who have roots here and will need to deal with the encroaching leftoid outrage, it will be a serious problem.
I know we like to joke about the US being in Weimar conditions but that might actually be true. I don't want to go through a fucking civil war.

>>1471319
>Well it's a good thing we didn't do that.
We literally are you retard. Trump said, point blank, "We will control the country". The US will have boots on the ground taking control of Venezuela; he even openly rejected working with the opposition leader who even praised him before.

>>1471321
President Trump formally granted the pardon on December 1, 2025, and Juan Orlando Hernández was released from prison on the same day, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons. Hernández had been sentenced to 45 years in prison in June 2024 after a U.S. federal jury convicted him of conspiring to import cocaine into the United States and related firearms offenses.

>>1471326
Sure. And Joe Biden commuted the death sentences of thousands of murderers
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/07/biden-granted-more-acts-of-clemency-than-any-prior-president/
Biden’s many commutations included a near-total emptying of the federal government’s death row.
Biden also saved nearly all of his clemency acts until the final weeks of his presidency. While every president since Ford has issued pardons or commutations in his last days in office, Biden granted 96% of his acts of clemency in his final fiscal year – the period between Oct. 1, 2024, and his departure from the White House on Jan. 20. On Jan. 17 alone, he granted 2,490 commutations, more in a single day than any prior chief executive had granted over their entire presidency.

>>1471323
>Did the regime change work when Noriega was arrested
Well let's see
>His administration was marked by internal fighting, and his popularity plummeted. He was succeeded by opposition candidate Ernesto Pérez Balladares in 1994.

>>1471309
Venezuela is bad for the same reason Iran would've been bad.
Five million US citizens are about to have their wages garnished for unpaid student loans while the price of living is skyrocketing. Why the fuck would we want another regime change debt blowout like we had in the Middle East?

>>1471327
Yeah they got demoted from death to life in prison. They didn't get fucking pardoned you retard.

>>1471328
What were the US grievances that lead to the 89/90 invasion, and did those problems continue?

>>1471330
He commuted the sentence of thousands of people who were guilty of serious crimes. Rape, murder. Killing children.

>>1471327
>And Joe Biden

whataboutism.

>>1471333
...who are still in prison. Unlike the drug lord Trump pardoned.

>>1471334
And this post wasn't whataboutism?
>>1471326
We weren't talking about Juan Orlando Hernández. Why being him up?

>>1470917
During Trump's first term Maduro stayed in power after an illegitimate election.

The MSM/Democrats repeatedly claimed that Maduro remaining in power was proof that Trump was "Putin's puppet."

Now the piece of shits pretending outrage are really the definition of absolute two faced worthless scum

>>1470967
Convicted by liberals, yes. TRUMP will stop the drugs.

>>1471337
Yeah source? I don't think anyone was calling for the US to occupy fucking Venezuela and do another inevitably disastrous regime change.

>>1471336
Donald Trump invaded and kidnapped a president over drug trafficking. A month earlier he pardoned a president sentenced to 45 years in prison for drug trafficking.

>>1471309
Leaving him alone was an option. And you really think we're not going to get boots on the ground here? He's talking about taking over the country and having oil companies move in, you can't fucking do that with just air strikes.

>>1471340
Trump used his pardon power to pardon Juan Orlando Hernández. Biden used his pardon power to commute the sentences of thousands of murderers including people who murdered children.

>>1471343
>Biden used his pardon power to commute the sentences of thousands of murderers including people who murdered children.

whataboutism + vague fake and gay claim

>>1471338
>liberals convict and arrest drug trafficker
>Trump pardons him and lets him go
>"TRUMP will stop the drugs."

>>1471343
Those guys are still in prison. Juan's not. These are not the same things, no matter how many times you repeat this whataboutism.

>>1471343
Literally fake and gay

Venezuelans are celebrating in the street after drug lord dictator Maduro and his wife were captured while traitorcrats are busy condemning Trump the same traitorcrats attacked trump before for not acting on maduro, literal joe biden and ratfaced ratcliff attacked trump over it.
But now the two faced scum of the earth Lefties are crying for a dictator again. Shocking.
One emotional meltdown away from blocking another street, without a single functioning brain cell to ask why Venezuelans are celebrating.

>>1471335
Like he even cares dude, why bother owning him with le facts and logic when they don't care about facts and logic. You might as well be speaking to a women.

>"The implications here are really great for the Israe- uh, the Venezuelan people"

LOL: https://x.com/CassandraRules/status/2007558131757551725

>>1471347
>Venezuelans are celebrating in the street
cherry picked videos do not represent reality.

>>1471350
reality represents reality and that you democrat rats deny it to protect your invented reality is nothing new

>>1471351
>you democrat rats

>implications.

>>1470917
Maduro's VP just expressed full control over the military and said Venezuela will defend itself. Kidnapping Maduro was SO surgical it literally left the entire military intact. Meaning regardless of how many people are celebrating Maduro being gone, any hopes of taking control is going to result in a full fledged war. One China and Russia have legitimate interest in assisting in.

no way anons think this is because maduro is a druggy dictator, as if trump actually cares about that. he straight-up said this was for oil and power in his conference.

>>1470917
In a matter of one week democrats have lowered themselves to defending insane billions worth of money being stolen from every single american, literally defending somali industrial scale fraud and now they defend a literal dictator narco terrorist (that before trump they attacked but now after trump they defend)
that killed thousands of americans via drugs.
It is insane how treasonous the democrats are.

>>1471355
The US doesn't want to get involved in another fucking war for oil you retard.

>>1470917
Add in that Venezuelans around the world are celebrating the removal of maduro
But Trump did it so ergo its bad in the democrat mind. And the democrat party stand to lose support with election theft and funding if maduro is gone. They have to counter signal everything Trump does.

Democrats really simply are traitors and everyone who still votes for them is a traitor too.

>>1471355
>that killed thousands of americans via drugs.
fake and gay

>>1471357
>>1471355
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>>1471347
Why do you license blatantly? Twice with the same ai generated shit.

The people of Venezuela are terrified and hiding waiting for more strikes by the US terrorist state.

>>1471357
No one wants a fucking war with Venezuela for oil you idiot. The people were celebrating in Iraq and Libya too at first, it means nothing. Hell, it means even less here because Maduro's vice president is still loyal to him and their entire military is still there.

>>1471356
Then why did we just further destabilize an oil-rich country and overthrow its leader after complaining about how it stole American oil? Why are American investors and oil companies already eyeing it like they're European empires getting ready to carve out a piece of Africa?

>>1471360
ESL jeet shll

>>1471359
cry more for a narco terrorist massmurdering dictator its what you traitorcrats do.
BTW biden and ratcliff attacked trump over not doing anything and declared maduro is a dictator but now the media gave you retarded no brain cattle new marching orders that are literal the opposite of last time and you stupid worthless brainless cattle march.
You have no brain one day democrats tell you to do one thing and you march the next day they tell you the opposite and you march, you are not a real human being you are a biological automaton, something to be used by the traitorcrats.

>>1471362
The people don't. Trump does.

>>1471357
The day you face the wall can't come soon enough.

>doesn't pussyfoot around
>states we're fucking Venezuela because they aren't pumping enough oil and we can
>removing Maduro is just a bonus
Is Trump the most based world leader of our lifetime?

>>1471363
The shills want the war you fucking retarded faggot. Kill your family and then your self. Do us all a favor.

>>1471286
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>1471364
>You have no brain one day democrats tell you to do one thing and you march the next day they tell you the opposite and you march, you are not a real human being you are a biological automaton, something to be used by the traitorcrats.

That is probably the most accurate description of a democrat voter i have ever read.

>>1471367
>implying
He did it because Maduro was invading our country with Tren de Agua. They took over Colorado because the Democrats were flying them in and were cutting off the fingers of school children to intimidate Americans into buying their drugs and voting for CAMEL HARRIS.