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https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/white-house-releases-great-healthcare-plan-drawing-skepticism-over-details-costs-affordable-care-act-subsidies-obamacare-medicine-lowering-prescription-drug-prices-most-favored-nation-one-big-beautiful-bill-coverage

WASHINGTON (TNND) — President Donald Trump on Thursday unveiled what the White House is calling the “Great Healthcare Plan,” a broad framework aimed at lowering health care costs as Congress continues to debate the future of Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies.

While the administration said the plan would deliver relief to Americans facing rising medical expenses, critics argue it lacks the specifics needed to reshape the system.

The plan focuses on several core goals:

Lowering prescription drug prices
Reducing insurance premiums
Increasing price transparency
Holding insurance companies more accountable

The framework also proposes changing how federal health care assistance is delivered, sending payments directly to households to help cover medical costs rather than routing subsidies through insurance companies.

Calling it “the biggest thing to happen to healthcare maybe since the beginning,” Trump urged lawmakers to codify the framework into law, saying congressional action is needed to expand on steps his administration has already taken.

Those steps include policies such as “most favored nation” drug pricing, which ties the cost of certain medications in the U.S. to lower prices paid abroad. Administration officials argue that broader legislation would build on those efforts and reduce costs more quickly for patients.
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The framework also notably rejects extending ACA subsidies, which have been a major point of contention on Capitol Hill.

Rep. Mark Pocan, D-Wisconsin, said the proposal comes too late and could leave millions without coverage.

“This guy has had ten years to come up with a health care plan,” Pocan said. “Instead, they cut health care for 15 million people, and they raised all of our rates in the process.”

The rollout of the plan comes as the White House promotes a separate $50 billion rural health initiative, which Trump highlighted at an event Friday. The funding was added to Trump’s signature legislative package, known as the "One Big Beautiful Bill," after Republican lawmakers warned that planned Medicaid cuts could disproportionately harm rural hospitals.

Sen. Dan Sullivan, R-Alaska, said the rural initiative gives states more flexibility to address local needs.

“This bill isn’t just about money,” Sullivan said. “It’s about letting states and governors design the system they need instead of a one-size-fits-all approach.”

The rural health fund has drawn more bipartisan interest than other administration proposals. Still, analysts note that the $50 billion investment is far smaller than the $911 billion in Medicaid spending the Congressional Budget Office estimates would be cut over the next decade under the broader bill.

As lawmakers weigh competing health care priorities, the future of the plan remains uncertain.
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Why would we pay an ACA subsidy that is more expensive than direct medicare coverage?
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>>1478394
>The plan focuses on several core goals:
>Lowering prescription drug prices
>Reducing insurance premiums
>Increasing price transparency
>Holding insurance companies more accountable
Ok but how? What does it do?
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>>1478418
Shut the fuck up liberal, nobody cares.
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>>1478410
Why not just nationalize the entire healthcare system and even give money to private companies then?
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>>1478437
Had a conversation about this the other day.

I prefer my private health insurance over waiting a long time for a crappy doctor.

The ideal solution in my mind is to just have free health care available for anybody (US resident+taxpayer) who wants it at any time, basically removing income cap on it. Single payer, no insurance company, same crappy doctors everyone gets on Medicare or whatever.

Private insurance should still be a thing for people with jobs and income.

Obamacare was a step up from where it was before, but the whole "subsidizing Private health insurance companies" that Democrats enacted for Obamacare (not a single Republican voted in favor of it) is literal corporate welfare
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>>1478410
Just ask that which has a bust of Winston Churchill, who - during WWII - planned what would instituted in 1948: the National Health Service in UK. Churchill even applauded the PM after him who did so, Clement Attlee.
Trump seems to like that PM so much, so you'd better ask that POTUS.
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Let me guess the direct payments are going to be less that 5k per a household that files taxes, not a credit but a deduction, per a year, and only locked in for the first year?

Admittedly, I pay out my ass for the best healthcare plan available in my area through my employer. They pay 70% of the premium, and I pay 30%. My monthly cost this year is ~$1500. Mind you, there is no deductible, pretty much any medication (including some off the wall ones for rare cancers and diseases), and things like air ambulances are 100% covered (as I found out when my wife needed one after being hit by a drunk 18yo getting road head from a 40-something year old drug addict, doing 35mph over the speed limit, at night, during a thunder storm; insurance company even provided a lawyer when the air ambulance company tried to double the bill out of the blue years later when that kids insurance company stopped fighting and finally paid out).

Most people don't have a plan like that, but given that insurance rates are likely to continue to go up by double digit percentages, because republicans are forcing young healthy people out of the insurance market, whatever direct payments they issue are almost certainly not going to be enough.

At the end of the day, they are just doing socialism really badly, when they could just accept single payer, at least for people making under some yearly adjusted threshold.

I wonder how much of this Medicare Part C will absorb while providing no actual tangible benefit to people?
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>>1478433
Guys behold my new healthcare plan
>Make it less expensive
>Stop corruption
We will figure out how to actually accomplish these things later. Please elect me to the highest office in the land.
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>>1478531
He already is elected to the highest office and he's in the middle of following through on his promises to improve American healthcare whether you liggerals like it or not
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>>1478532
Uh huh. This time for sure.
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>>1478532
>he's in the middle of following through on his promises to improve American healthcare
Ok but saying "I will make healthcare less expensive" without actually saying how you will do so means nothing. Saying "I will make it so people no longer starve!" isn't me implementing a plan to end world hunger; you need to actually say how you get there.
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>>1478394
>delivered, sending payments directly to households to help cover medical costs rather than routing subsidies through insurance companies.
How will the liggerals complain about this one?
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>>1478536
What's worse is his plan is just transferring even more money to insurance companies since all they need to do is jack up their rates to take into account the cash money he gives to people which will just further increase trumpflation and nothing else.
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>>1478541
It ends up being more expensive and less efficient than extending subsidies, which itself is more expensive and less efficient than implementing single payer or single payer + the rich can still get Cadillac health plans.

This plan is essentially designed not to work out so politicians can say, "See Government is broken. We need more private contracting and corporate rent seeking to fix it!".
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>>1478547
>This isn't true of muhbamacae doe.
>And yeah, last month I was all like "JUST GIVE THE FUCKING BILLIONAIRES MONEY OR WE'LL STOP GIVING POORS FOODSTAMPS!!!
You have zero credibility. Hang yourself.
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>>1478394
there is no republican alternative to the ACA because it is the republican alternative to universal healthcare. It was Romneycare before it was Obamacare, and it was Nixoncare before it was Romneycare. Obama gave them their plan on a silver platter and they spat in his eye.
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>>1478601
This article is about the Republican Alternative to Obamacare?
Why doesn't it count?
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>>1478605
Because it isn't actually a plan. Saying you will make healthcare less expensive without actually having a way HOW means less than nothing.
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>>1478608
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/01/president-trump-unveils-the-great-healthcare-plan-to-lower-costs-and-deliver-money-directly-to-the-people/
This proposal locks in the massive discount on prescription drugs that my administration is achieving through our most-favored-nations drug pricing agreement… It’ll bring down drug prices 80, 90% in some case
To further reduce insurance premiums, my plan ends the giant kickbacks to insurance brokers and corporate middleman that only drive up the costs…”
“It fully funds a long-neglected part of the law known as the Cost Sharing Reduction program. This measure alone should cut premiums on the most popular Obamacare plans—it’s hard to believe there are any because it’s a hated program, it’s unaffordable—but it’s going to cut them by an average of 10 to 15%.”
It requires insurers to publish detailed information about how much of your money they’re going to be paying out in claims versus how much they are taking in in profits… It forces them to release detailed data on how many claims are being denied and whether those denials are eventually overturned on appeal.”
“Most importantly, it will require any hospital or insurer who accepts Medicare or Medicaid to prominently post all prices of their place of business so that you are never surprised, and you can easily shop for a better deal or better care
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>>1478612
This shit still doesn't go into specifics.

It says it will fund the Cost Sharing Reduction program, something that DOESN'T EXIST. Cost Sharing Reduction is a policy that's part of Obamacare already; it's like saying you will fund tax exceptions. It isn't some kind of forgotten passed law.

It lists the "most-favored-nations" drug program as bringing down costs, but he's already implemented it and... prices are getting higher. It had some lowerings, but also increased others.

That bit about forcing hospitals and insurers to post prices ALREADY EXISTS. That shit is already IN ACA. It means fucking nothing.

It's all just fucking bullshit that still lacks a clear plan. Half of it is regurgitated from stuff already in Obamacare, and the other half is Trump's personal programs that have yet to properly work like he's promised. It's never going to pass either.
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>>1478612
>sounds great if you don't think about it
it's amazing how little effort the Trump administration has to put in to fool idiots like you. They could
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>>1478633
Candlejack got y
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>>1478633
>s amazing how little effort the Trump administration has to put in to fool idiots like you.


tRump said he likes uneducated people.

All Republicans do, Trump just says it out loud again
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>>1478654
>>1478633
>>1478418
>READING LEARNIN WORDS IS FOR FAGGOTS
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>>1478418
You gotta vote for it to find out,
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We are going to give every American $2,000 so they can use it to buy their own health insurance.

Nigga still owes me $2,000 tariff check and a $5,000 doge check.

Next he will say i can pay him $2,000 for his own healthcare plan which involves a prayer or two by some Christian Pedophile.
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>>1478890
Meh, we'll see what happens. We've got a week or so before tax time ramps up.
In the end, you didn't owe the government anything.
Unlike with the mandate from Obama. That fucker stole $500 of my money.



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