In other news, the Catholic Cardinals have publicly condemned the American fascist right's war mongering, anti Christ like foreign policy. https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/broglio-us-troops-could-refuse-greenlandThe archbishop of the U.S. military services said Sunday that he does not believe military action to take control of Greenland could be justified – and that U.S. troops in good conscience could refuse orders to do so.Speaking to the BBC on Jan. 18. Archbishop Timothy Broglio of the Archdiocese for the Military Services said he “cannot see any circumstances” in which an American military operation to take control of Greenland or another ally’s territory could fulfill the criteria for a just war.The archbishop also said administration rhetoric on Greenland “tarnishes the image of the United States.”Broglio previous served in the Holy See’s Secretariat of State as a Vatican diplomat, including as Apostolic Nuncio to the Dominican Republic and Apostolic Delegate to Puerto Rico.The archbishop was also previously elected as president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops; his term as head of the USCCB ended in November of last year.Asked whether he is concerned about Catholics serving in the military who might be asked to participate in a military operation to take control of Greenland, Broglio responded, “I am obviously worried, because they could be put in a situation where they’re being ordered to do something which is morally questionable.”“And it would be very difficult for a soldier or a Marine or a sailor by himself to disobey an order such as that,” he continued. “But strictly speaking, he or she, within the realm of their own conscience, it would be morally acceptable to disobey that order. But that’s perhaps putting that individual in an untenable situation, and that’s my concern.”
Asked if he was “laying out red lines” for the Trump administration, the archbishop said he does not know whether “the powers that be” are open to listening to admonitions from Catholic leaders, but said he believes it is his duty to speak up.Broglio’s comments come amid rising international tensions, as U.S. President Donald Trump continues to repeat demands for “complete and total control of Greenland.”Trump has insisted that Denmark sell Greenland to the United States while making continued references to the U.S. taking control of the territory “the hard way” if necessary. Over the weekend, he threatened to impose tariffs on Denmark and a number of other European nations until a sale of the territory had been approved.Trump’s comments have raised alarm both among members of Congress and European leaders.The White House has said that military force is “an option” in acquiring Greenland. Asked by NBC News on Monday whether he would go as far as using force to take the territory, the president responded “No comment.”And in a message to the Norwegian prime minister over the weekend, Trump wrote, “Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace.”In an interview earlier this month, Trump was asked about the limits of his power to act globally.The president responded that the only thing that limits him is “my own morality,” also saying, “I don’t need international law.”Broglio said he is concerned by both Trump’s rhetoric and actions on foreign policy.“We do have international law and we do have, obviously, moral principles that should guide all of us,” he said in response to a question about Trump’s reference to being guided or constrained by his personal morality rather than international law and norms.
“Greenland is a territory of Denmark. Denmark is an ally. It’s part of NATO. It does not seem really reasonable that the United States would attack and occupy a friendly nation.”While Trump says acquiring Greenland is necessary for national security — specifically for the construction of his planned Golden Dome missile defense program — Broglio noted that “we already have treaties there that allow for a military installation in Greenland.”The archbishop said Trump’s threatening stance toward Greenland “tarnishes the image of the United States in our world.”Last month, Broglio released a statement criticizing the United States’ deliberate killing of all personnel on a vessel believed to be carrying drugs.He noted Catholic teaching that “the end never justifies the means,” and that “it would be an illegal and immoral order to kill deliberately survivors on a vessel who pose no immediate lethal threat to our armed forces.”He argued that the U.S. could have intercepted the vessel suspected of carrying illegal drugs, and then arrested people on board and allowed them to be tried in a court of law.Addressing the same instance on Sunday, the archbishop told the BBC in his Jan. 18 interview that “Navy personnel, and military personnel in general, are a responsibility of mine as pastor for Catholics in the military. And so I was concerned that men and women under my charge were being forced to be engaged in situations that are certainly not necessary.”Broglio is not alone in voicing concern about the United States’ approach to international affairs.In a joint statement released Jan. 19, three U.S. cardinals warned that “[T]he United States has entered into the most profound and searing debate about the moral foundation for America’s actions in the world since the end of the Cold War.”
Cardinals Blase Cupich of Chicago, Robert McElroy of Washington, and Joseph Tobin of Newark lamented that basic questions about national sovereignty, the common good, and the meaning of peace are all being debated, often in narrow partisan terms.“Our country’s moral role in confronting evil around the world, sustaining the right to life and human dignity, and supporting religious liberty are all under examination,” they warned. “And the building of just and sustainable peace, so crucial to humanity’s well-being now and in the future, is being reduced to partisan categories that encourage polarization and destructive policies.”The cardinals pointed to Pope Leo’s recent address to the Vatican diplomatic corps, in which he warned that “A diplomacy that promotes dialogue and seeks consensus among all parties is being replaced by a diplomacy based on force, by either individuals or groups of allies.”“War is back in vogue and a zeal for war is spreading. The principle established after the Second World War, which prohibited nations from using force to violate the borders of others, has been completely undermined,” Leo said. “[P]eace is sought through weapons as a condition for asserting one’s own dominion.”Cupich, McElroy, and Tobin called for the pope’s words to become “an enduring ethical compass for establishing the pathway for American foreign policy in the coming years.” They noted that the pope voiced concern about a range of violations against human dignity, including war, abortion and euthanasia, eliminating humanitarian assistance programs, and threats to religious freedom.“As pastors and citizens, we embrace this vision for the establishment of a genuinely moral foreign policy for our nation,” the cardinals said. “We seek to build a truly just and lasting peace, that peace which Jesus proclaimed in the Gospel.”
“We renounce war as an instrument for narrow national interests and proclaim that military action must be seen only as a last resort in extreme situations, not a normal instrument of national policy,” they continued.“We seek a foreign policy that respects and advances the right to human life, religious liberty, and the enhancement of human dignity throughout the world, especially through economic assistance.”
>>1479490Hegseth gonna go after the church for treason now?
Why even use the military?Just move there illegally and take over everything.Who's gonna do anything? Democrats?lol.
It's about time.
>>1479526I'm pretty sure we could do it quick.
>>1479523Bretty good idea. Set up "American daycare centers" on mineral deposits, export it back to the US. Let's play by the rules everyone else does.
>>1479530Thanks for reminding us why there are no right wing comedians
>>1479523Troops from a number of countries are being sent to take watch with the instructions to shoot first and ask questions later. If the US tries to take Greenland by illegally invading and setting up bases or buildings then World War 3 starts. I know that's probably what you and Truml want, but remember the US is only 5% of the world's population and WW3 will be the US and Isreal vs all of Europe, Canada and more than likely Iran and Russia.
I wish Trump would stop trying to annex Greenland. Civil war ain't going to happen unless Trump concentrates on his own backyard and starts brutalizing all these c0mmie antifascist leftist traitors, like in Minnesota.
>>1479547t. Russian
>>1479543why is it acceptable for greenland to deny unwanted immigration into its borders but not for the US?
>>1479609Yeah this comparison isn't working no matter how many threads you try it in.
>>1479543>unarmed troops from a number of countries are being sent via commercial airlines to sit in a hotel for a few days before flying out of the same airport This is theater.
>>1479610actually it is working as evident in the fact that you can't refute it.
>>1479616>you can't refute it.Well for one, these are opposites; if you wanted a similar situation to illegal immigration it would have to be Greenland forcibly campaigning to join the US instead of the US trying to annex them.
>>1479619wrong; they are both examples of immigration resulting in similar outcomes of demographic and cultural displacement
>>1479619remember, you're talking to esl shill, all you can do is make fun of him for having such a shit job, he will never stop lying and being a faggot though
>>1479619You're arguing in favor of the sovereignty of the EU while simultaneously ignoring that of the US.Judas.
>>1479523>Rest of the world won't put economic sanctions on the US to the point it's isolated to where only Putin, who trump sucks his dick regularly, will try to help,I mean Putin already came to trump's aid by DDOSing that ICE accountability site.
>>1479543>and more than likely Iran and Russia.WW3 would be a convoluted shitshow with probably like 4 different blocks all fighting with each other. The U.S. would be fighting with Europe and China, Europe would be fighting the U.S. and Russia, Russia would be fighting Europe, China would be fighting the U.S. and all the eastern powers, it would be a shitshow of biblical proportions. I can't believe the orange retard has fucked up the world order this badly that the concept of a U.S. - European war is even on the table right now. I never bought into the Russian election interference conspiracy before but considering that this is even being conceived right now shows you how fucking bought he is. I hate it here, and I'm sorry to every libtard I ever doubted
>>1479667>European war is even on the table right now.Don't delude yourself. America and Denmark went through these exact same circumstances with the Virgin Islands.
>>1479667Europe has no combat potential. They traded force doctrine for luxury beliefs. Americans would be more than happy to let Europe fend for itself.
>>1479655That was /pol/, not Putin.
>>1479669As an American, I would be happy if we just nuked everything and started over.
>>1479671/pol/ is just useful idiots of russia. So same group.
>>1479669>Europe has no combat potentialhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LicGU-NZFQM>a missile that makes Hellfire obsolete>a plane that makes stealth fighters it's bitch>a missile with no countermeasure: just ask Ivans on the receiving end in Ukraine. oh wait>the fastest & dealiest torpedo in existence: can break the back of any ship, thus is a one shot one kill weapon>a submarine armed with said torpedoes: is the Red October in all but name & MHD: it 'sank' all US Navy carriers & ships in war games>an operational laser weapon before anyone elseAn orange thing that was all for 'Brexit'. At Davos, It had better be nice to the leader of the country producing the above weapons, otherwise...!
Truman knew what to do with those miserable Danes. Trump is the greatest US President since Harry.
>Trump is the greatest US President since Harry>the letter after Truman's nameThanks for admitting that all Democrat presidents are the best. No Exceptions.
The Pope should excommunicate Vance for the lols.
>>1479706>sending people to their country of citizenship is bad
>>1479703very nice but us dominates in all weapon categories, in production capacity, and in capability for force projection. most importantly, the us has the willpower. are euros really willing to fight and die for a government that hates and subverts the will its own people?
>>1479711Might makes right is not how you want the world to be ran
>>1479708Yeah all those dudes who got fucked off to El Salvador totally came from there.
The Church is too late and should have spoken up immediately after (or before since I imagine someone at this proximity knows) Venezuela. You don’t get to suddenly care just because Pink people are affected now.
>>1479712your concept of "right" is meaningless if you can't defend it
>>1479718Jesus said “do unto others as you would unto yourself” and people have been getting by fine with that for a while nowDestroying the post WW2 world order because your Daddy didn’t get a trophy is just as stupid as you are
>>1479719it's the eu that's undermining the world order. they have no allegiance and will rush into the arms of whoever promises to be their provider
>us dominates in all weapon categories, in production capacity, and in capability for force projectionNice fanfic, or Trump would have conquered China in 72 hours, just 24 hours after 20th January 2025>RAF Spitfires & Hurricanes scared off the supposedly 'superior' Wehrmacht Luftwaffe which supposedly dominated in all weapon categories, in production capacity, and in capability for force projection in WWII>Gloster Meteors became the first jet interceptors which countered the supposedly 'superior dominating in all weapon categories, in production capacity, and in capability for force projection' V-1s>are euros really willing to fight and die for a government that hates and subverts the will its own people?>Army>RAF>Royal Navy>all the above with weapons which ensure they won't die - just ask Ukrainians with Storm Shadow: said missile with no countermeasure - but are Americans prepared to die by said unstoppable missile, and one shot one kill ultra-fast & unstoppable torpedo: certainly the untraceable Astute-class submarines armed with those torpedoes because they're ordered to by an orange coward that dodged the draft due to supposed 'Bone Spurs'? Are you willing to personally fight and die for Trump, 1479711?
>>1479724try again, turdie. in English this time.
>oh no! I can't counter what >>1479724 says, so I must project!Try again, turdie shill 1479726 that has English as a second language.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/opinion-trump-toddler-nato-greenland_n_69700f8ce4b06c2b9736e78dSo the EU and NATO's constant praise of trump didn't work since he's acting like a toddler, and caving to his demands to plunder Greenland will make things worse.
>turdie thinks anyone takes his schizo babble seriously
>>1479729>>1479726>>1479711try again, schizo turdie. in English this time.
turdie bot is malfunctioning again.
>1479732 thinks anyone takes his schizo babble seriously
I will genuinely never understand how Christianity got weaponized in such a way where these people don't even obey a single aspect of the religion. Vance just HAPPENS to be in a sect that doesn't have to listen to a pope? Come the fuck on.
>>1479609Are you for real lmfao
>>1479672t. Russian
>>1479784I'm for real. We should just migrate a million unarmed American soldiers into their territory, build our own enclaves, do whatever we want, and claim cultural oppression if someone tries to stop us. Because apparently Europeans are fine with that.
>>1479805lmfao okay bro you keep thinking that's what's happening
>>1479810Ok Muhammed
