> Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qp_SrTgBBs> https://katv.com/news/nation-world/federal-eighth-circuit-appellate-court-blocks-lower-district-judges-restrictions-on-minnesota-immigration-law-enforcement-operationsHUNT VALLEY, Md. (TNND) — A federal appellate court blocked a lower judge's restrictions on immigration law enforcement’s Minnesota operations on Monday.A three-judge panel in the 8th Circuit, which has an office in Saint Paul, stayed District Judge Katherine Menendez’s order that prohibited federal agents from retaliating or using pepper spray against protesters. Menendez also blocked officers from stopping protesters who are following their activities in their cars.“The district court entered a preliminary injunction with respect to federal immigration-enforcement operations in Minnesota. The injunction is unlikely to survive the government’s interlocutory appeal, ... so we stay it pending a final decision in this case,” the panel, which includes Judges Raymond Gruender, Bobby Shepherd and David Stras, wrote.The bench ruled that Menendez’s order is too vague. Her direction for law enforcement to not retaliate against people “engaging in peaceful and unobstructive protest activity,” as well as the judge’s prohibition on “stopping or detaining drivers ... where there is no reasonable articulable suspicion that they are forcibly obstructing or interfering with" agents, are simply commands to “obey the law,” according to the appellate court.“Even the provision that singles out the use of ‘pepper-spray or similar nonlethal munitions and crowd dispersal tools’ requires federal agents to predict what the district court would consider ‘peaceful and unobstructive protest activity,’” the panel said.
>>1484304Gruender disagreed with his colleagues for their opinion on pepper spray use. He wrote in a dissenting statement that he wouldn’t stay Menendez’s order on it since it isn’t a vague “obey the law” injunction.“Reading the injunction in the context of the facts and circumstance of this case, the Government has not demonstrated that trained federal agents are unlikely to understand how to comply with an order not to ‘us[e] pepper-spray or similar nonlethal munitions and crowd dispersal tools' against persons ‘engaging in peaceful and unobstructive protest activity,’” Gruender said.Menendez issued her order earlier this month in response to a lawsuit by Minnesota protesters, on behalf of anyone who is demonstrating against, recording or observing the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement operations in the state. The appellate court determined that a ruling for such a large class represents a universal injunction, which federal courts can’t issue.“Even if ‘courts may issue temporary relief to a putative class,’ this one has no chance of getting certified,” the panel said. “And overlooking the difficulties of certification ... is not necessary ‘to preserve our jurisdiction.’”>fin
>>1484304nice to see we still have a few sane people left in the courts
You should be required to be pepper sprayed, tased, thrown to cement, and shot in the head with a rubber bullet at close range every 4 years to be a judge.
>>1484318A peaceful protest does not involve blocking public roads, stopping and searching private individuals, property damage to private property and assaulting law enforcement officers.
>>1484322>coping this hard
>>1484322>A peaceful protest does not involve blocking public roadsPeople seem to be conflating "peaceful" and "lawful" a lot recently. Even a fucking sit in involves fucking trespassing.>You may well ask: “Why direct action? Why sit ins, marches and so forth? Isn’t negotiation a better path?” You are quite right in calling for negotiation. Indeed, this is the very purpose of direct action. Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored. My citing the creation of tension as part of the work of the nonviolent resister may sound rather shocking. But I must confess that I am not afraid of the word “tension.” I have earnestly opposed violent tension, but there is a type of constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth.>I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”;
>>1484322>A peaceful protest does not involve blocking public roads>Guys can you please do your protest in a way that doesn't bother anyone? You're really harshing my vibes.
>>1484327When Martin Luther King Jr. did sit-in protests he was arrested and complied peacefully. He didn't ram his honda pilot into arresting officers. He didn't fistfightband wrestle police affer being maced while carrying heat. MLK Jr. was arrrested, booked, and paid bail and fought in court.
>>1484329If you do an illegal thing in your protest, be prepared to be arrested and charged for that illegal thing.
>>1484331>He didn't fistfightband wrestle police affer being maced while carrying heatNeither did Alex Pretti. They still killed him.
>>1484333And?
It's illegal to use a legal nameMessage Delivered.Have a nice day.
>>1484304Fucking traitors. Hardly a surprise, though. This country is dead.
>>1484333debatable he was a terrorist and armed
>>1484347you're a domestic terrorist anon you don't get to screech about muh traitors
>>1484354>weesl shill, i think they need you in a trench somewhere don't they
>>1484347>WAAAAAAAAAHHHH THE GOVERNMENT I SUCKED OFF A FEW YEARS AGO ISN'T SIDING WITH US RIOTING RETARDS THIS TIMEHow's that pendulum taste, motherfucker?
>>1484359you're not american, but it's always hilarious when you try to convince us that you are
LOL. and right on cue esl shill delivers a classic broken english post
>>1484362The fuck does that even mean?
>>1484361leftists are going to be denaturalized so enjoy your last moments of freedom terrorist.you're going to be enslaved and spend the rest of ur life in a coal mine
>>1484322utter waste of life. please an hero at your earliest convenience
>>1484344trips > dubssorry you’re a fag
>>1484387god you're esl
>>1484385Don't fight the feds.
>>1484390we know you're indian
>>1484304>Her direction for law enforcement to not retaliate against people “engaging in peaceful and unobstructive protest activity,” as well as the judge’s prohibition on “stopping or detaining drivers ... where there is no reasonable articulable suspicion that they are forcibly obstructing or interfering with" agents, are simply commands to “obey the law,” according to the appellate court.lmao, chuds think this is a win? ESL shills lost their english coordinator
esl shill is trying too hard again
>>1484306But enough about the lower court
>>1484442Whoops! Meant that for >>1484347
>>1484333What happened when MLK Jr got in fights with law enforcement while carrying a loaded firearm?
>>1484322Damn, they must be issuing Chocolate-Mint-flavored soles to ICE agents cuz this bastard is licking them squeaky clean>>1484331Yeah but also back then not every college dropout, army reject, and crackhead who doesnt even wash his ass much less his mouth could be a federal agent>>1484332>ARRESTED AND CHARGED, your own damn wordsHe was on the fucking ground with 5 guys on him, they couldve cuffed him 8 times and even muzzled him for good measure but nooooo, Big Boy Officer Timmy wanted to pretend he was The Punisher, and here we fucking are>>1484344And i hope they shoot you in the back next
>>1484500Only traitors help invaders.
>>1484505Only traitors murder their own citizens.
>>1484514Communists are not American
>>1484516Umm, political beliefs do not change a persons citizenship. Fuck your retarded.
>>1484519Correct, it changes their personhood. Communists are not people.
>>1484514Look up excess mortalities between march 2020-2022>but covidIt was the lockdowns>think about how much worse it would have been if we didn't interveneThis is the biggest cope there is. Look at Africa. They didn't have lockdowns, they weren't remote working their natural resources sector jobs.
>>1484514It's not murder if they attack first.
>>1484514>Only traitors murder their own citizens.Confirmed Antifa are traitors.
>>1484521Personhood? You talk like a tranny.
>>1484519>>1484514domestic terrorists aren't citizens they're criminals actively trying to harm othersleftists are all domestic terrorists
>>1484548Vaxx status?
>>1484545>leftists are all domestic terroristsThis is whats making everything so goddamn difficultPeople dont trust each other anymore, everyone is an enemy to be defeatedI bet thats the exact same mentality the guy that shot Pretti hadHell even the president thinks like this, no empathy, no respect, just pure unadulterated spiteIf only we could work together, maybe things wouldnt be so lame
>>1484322Oops! Blocking roads is literally peaceful. Try again!
>>1484304Did they rule this way because of the facts? Or because they were ordered to?
>>1484660democrats have openly paraded on the platform of if you aren't with us ur a nazi facist terrorist and should die for a decadeit's been more and more blatant especially post kirk where people are saying he deserved it for saying the 2nd amendment should be protected even if it costs lives, the same 2nd amendment the protesters are unironically loving right now to protect them from a fictional actual facist take over.Its hard to preach unity when that's been the mainstream for so long and i don't blame them the rot is too strong>>1484663mobs ambushing, stopping cars then destroying SUVs thinking they're ICE vehicles isn't peaceful. and jokes on you the 8th circuit has ruled against you.
>>1484665>8th circuit has ruled against youYou're too ESL to understand the ruling, sad
>>1484665Nice goalpost move. Blocking traffic is peaceful. Sorry to say. Doing not peaceful shit during that is obviously not peaceful. But standing in a road and blocking cars is totally peaceful and it only upsets the exact people who need to be upset the most. Pathetic losers who only care about themselves and their job.
>>1484665Acting like you’re on kirk’s side while defending the Jewish takeover of America and the restriction of our rights is insane. How can you claim to be pro-Kirk while you don’t even think people have the right to stand in a public road? Get your positions straight and start aiming at the actual enemy. All this woke shit only exists to convince you to willingly give up your own rights.
>>1484670tricking retards into believing giving up their rights was anti-woke is the slickest thing American Oligarchs ever did
>>1484669>shutting down roads is peacefulhttps://www.acluaz.org/know-your-rights/protest-free-speech/>If you endanger others while protesting, you can be arrested. A protest that blocks vehicular or pedestrian traffic is illegal without a permit.you got a permit anon? if not you should die>>1484667you're a retard who reads the dissent lmao>>1484670>>1484671I'm pro kysleftists die everyone whose annoying should dieleftists are the biggest obnoxious pricks right now.It'll probably switch to the religious righties in a decade but we can deal with it then, bigger issue is the leftists karens
>>1484671what is the purpose of making statements that are so laughably detached from reality?
>>1484669https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/169.34its a misdemeanor aka illegal anon.right to protest isn't right to commit crimes.but go ahead and keep doing it, then get *surprised pikachuface* when you get a criminal record if not iced on the spot.
>>1484674>>1484675https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/general/kristi-noem-blames-stephen-miller-for-the-minneapolis-killings/ar-AA1Vatr3lmao, they're already throwing each other under the busNo ones going to want to hold the blame for killing American citizensTrumps presidency is already over
>>1484682its obviously leftists at fault.https://www.foxnews.com/video/6388391993112Agitators swarm Minnesota capitol and chant outside Tim Walz’s officeDozens gathered inside the Capitol building, shouting anti-ICE slogans and demanding accountability as they marched toward the governor’s doors. pfft trump's presidency is only growing stronger, tim waltz called out the terrorists who stormed churches and held children hostages. and now they're trying to lynch him as well.
>>1484687>leftists are losing, see this lie by admitted liars proving it? lmao, keep coping
>>1484674>he thinks permits to protest are acceptable and not already a massive violation of our rightsKeep going down the hole bro surely abandoning even the fundamental concept of liberty will reward you in the end. Keep thinking everyone against you is just a brainwashed liberal and keep doing exactly what they want you to do.
>>1484676>he’s eager to defend tyrannical misinterpretations of our very clearly unlimited constitutional rightsRead to give up your guns too? That’s next bud.
>>1484689>its nyoever for trump>uh buddy they're boycotting waltz's office and trying to lynch him>its nyoever for trump keep copingok....?>>1484691peaceful protest doesn't include unlawful activities that would result in misdemeanors or felonies. i'm sorry your parents are so incompetent they never taught you no but you can't commit crimes anon>>1484692said it before i'll say it again, 2nd amendment can go but the ones who'd be mad are the leftists retards who are simultaneously anti 2nd amendment but refuse to hand their firearms over to the police.Go ahead wokie revoke the 2nd amendment guess what happens. no one but law enforcement aka ICE will have firearms.ദ്ദി(˵ •̀ ᴗ - ˵ ) and i'm fine with that so go ahead and disarm yourself and die
ESL shills aren't sending their best today
>>1484692>violent leftist agitator fights with ICE officers, breaks a rib>comes back later, fights them again while illegally carrying, gets shot >durrrr don't you support the second amendment hurr durrFuck off.
>>1484697>how dare he live in his own town and be upset people are being violently attacked for simply filming>OOPS not carying your papers means the gun is somehow more dangerous>you can just kill him after we disarm him>>1484693>incompetentYou mean ICE?
>>1484707your parents should've been iced you're too stupid to be living with actual people. your parents were lucky they didn't get darwined but i guess ur generation is where their luck ran out
>>1484707>OOPS not carying your papers means the gun is somehow more dangerousJoining terrorist organizations, breaking federal law and fighting with the federal government makes you dangerous, you fucking retard.
>>1484318Agreed let's start with all the Obama appointed judges
Leftists BTFO>Appeals court blocks ICE's restraining order because the protests were not peacefulRead the ruling, lol.>Pretti had attended several previous protests, visible imprint of a pistol on right hip and he kicks an ICE vehicle>FBI has hacked the group chat>Walz surrenders and Minnesota PD arrest anti-ICE riotersI am laffin>but muh rightsHe had all of his rights and found out what happens when you combine free will with violent felony acts.
>>1484318You should die of cancer to be a doctorYou should burn your own house down to be a firefighter
>>1484742You should touch my penis
>>1484734They're all getting fired.
>>1484745>They're all getting firedSucks to get written up for missing work because you got arrested at a riot.
>>1484759These retards will never be able to get another job. They couldn't even cut it as beat cops; now they have a black mark on their record. Chances are half the ICE agents employed today will be dead of suicide or drug overdose by the end of the next two decades.
>>1484697Another goalpost move. We’re talking about blocking the road dude. Can you get your head out of your ass and look at where our country is headed?
>>1484766>They couldn't even cut it as beat cops; now they have a black mark on their recordYou don't really know how police departments work, huh?
