Xi said China was ready to develop a long-term partnership with Britain following "twists and turns" in the relationship that did not serve the interests of either country.

"We can deliver a result that can withstand the test of history," Xi told Starmer, flanked by his top ministers, at their summit at the Great Hall of the People.

Starmer later told reporters he had a "respectful discussion" with Xi about the case of Jimmy Lai, the former Hong Kong media tycoon and British citizen who was convicted in December of national security crimes.

WESTERN ALLIES RATTLED BY TRUMP'S UNPREDICTABILITY

Starmer's visit comes amid Trump's on-off threats of trade tariffs and pledges to grab control of Greenland, an autonomous territory of Denmark, which have rattled long-standing U.S. allies such as Britain.

STARMER HAILS IMPROVEMENT IN RELATIONSHIP

Starmer, who was accompanied by more than 50 business leaders, said the relationship with China was now in "a strong place" and said he saw Xi as someone he could do business with.

He described the meeting as warm and constructive, adding that the pair chatted about English Premier League soccer, which has a massive fan base in China, as they dined on roasted cod and sweet rice dumplings.
He gifted Xi a ball from a recent match between Manchester United, the Chinese president's favoured team, and the British premier's team Arsenal.

Chinese Commerce Minister Wang Wentao said after meeting British business minister Peter Kyle that Beijing wanted to deepen their services trade, import high-quality UK products, and, in return, enjoy a predictable investment environment in Britain.

>>1485046
Yeah no shit. You can't build long term economic relationships via direct coercion. The US has become so ridiculously unstable and unreliable in the last year the whole world is trying to decouple from us as much as possible. This shit will haunt us for decades. We handed all the power over to our primary competitor to "own the libs".

>>1485057
The UK is an anti-western socialist dictatorship. They unironically have more in common with China at this point

>>1485059
>Everyone I don't like is an anti-western socialist dictatorship: A guide to denying that you ruined all your international relations

>>1485057
To be fair, we've been trying to cooperate with the UK and Europe at large for the last 75 years. They still boycott all of our products to protect their domestic markets from the US, leverage fines against our major international companies to make money for their economies, ignore us when we want help bombing browns and antagonize us when we tell them to pay their fair share instead of spending all their money on social programs.

Coercion is the only option left to us before simply conquering them and putting them all under American rule. We tried being nice, but Europe still thinks they're equals rather than vassal states and that they get a say in what's going to be done on the world stage. As it sits, they'll just be conquered along with China, which suits us just fine.

>>1485059
The US is a fading anti-western Corpocracratic
dictatorship. They unironically have more in common with Russia at this point

>>1485086
Anon, we don't just have the biggest military, we have the biggest five militaries. A state can't fade while simultaneously being the largest military power in the history of man by ten orders of magnitude, you're looking at it from a perspective of money and international regard being the be all and end all of world politics, when history shows us that usually republics just turn into empires when they start to sink along non-military lines. Its far more likely that the US goes full jackboots-and-armbands sometime in the next decade and goes around the planet killing everyone south of a California tan.

>>1485088
With what money retard? You boast about the military now but you can't keep a country afloat purely on military budget when your currency is rapidly losing value and all your trade partners are trying to move on to the competition. Plus now that nuclear weapons are a thing military sizes matter nowhere near as much on the world stage.

>>1485082
>but muh fair share!
>Who cares if we've been the premiere world power for literally decades, they're actually scamming poor us!
It is so fucking funny we're going to lose that position because a fucking reality tv star convinced you the rest of the world has actually been fucking us over.

>>1485089
>rapidly losing value
You spend too much time on /biz/. That board is filled with crypto pump and dump schemes alongside retards trying to offload all their silver.

>>1485088
Difficulty: MAGAfags are too fat and stupid to run the Army, and can't bully real Americans into running their pogroms

>>1485092
>Please ignore how the dollar has lost 10% value in just one year of Trump and it's only getting worse

>>1485091
The rest of the world HAS been fucking us over. The US should have unchecked and unchallenged control of the planet's financial markets by now, not just a seat at the table. We're footing the bill and the work for the world's medical, military and spacecraft R&D as well as keeping the trade lanes safe and world trade functioning. It shouldn't be a discussion when the US says jump, everyone should just ask how high.

>>1485089
>With what money
Anon, America has literally infinite money. Nobody can call us out on the money printing until they're prepared to beat us in a conventional or a nuclear war, which they're not and won't ever be.

>>1485095
>Guys we're invincible and nothing can stop us ever
Pride cometh before a fall, retard.

>>1485046
>>1485057
>>1485059
>Bribe state media to go on a marxist fueled rampage through the institutions
>Wait a little while
>Leaders come crawling to your feet
The way China has utterly dismantled the west with suicidal ideology that hates their own citizens will be studied in the history books on how diplomacy can kill your rivals without firing a shot.

If they want to make it really ironic, they'll start importing opium into the UK lmao.


>>1485076
>>1485086
>>1485089
>>Everyone I don't like is an anti-western socialist dictatorship
Ok but UK is an actual anti-western socialist dictatorship. It's even ran by leaders who were Chinese subversives who were card-carrying marxists before they entered politics.

That's why their first actions when joining the UK parliament was instituting the worst surveillance state laws in the western world even before the War on Terror, banning literally anything that is more dangerous than a spoon, and instituting social media speech policing which is seeing 30 arrests a day or 12,000 a year.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2025/09/09/people-are-being-thrown-in-uk-prisons-over-what-theyve-said-online-can-free-speech-be-saved/

That is worse than China:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3259183/chinese-police-arrest-over-1500-online-rumours-campaign-targeting-influencers-bloggers-and-live

The UK isn't just a subversive socialist puppet state of China. They've surpassed it to become something even worse and leftoids on /news/ celebrate it, wishing to bring it to our countries.

>>1485098
>He thinks military power is a function of pride
We're not the Chinks, you mouthbreathing troglodyte. The rest of the world is not prepared to pour the next 50 years of financial gain solely into military acquisitions to fight a theoretical future war with the United States, which is what its gonna take. They'll have to shut down all their social programs and basically go back on austerity and rationing for an entire generation to accomplish in a handful of decades what the US has been building up for the last 75 years. Europe doesn't even have one (1) functional carrier group, or the ability to project power beyond their own subcontinent other than handful of marine detachments. The comparison is staggeringly in the US' favor and will continue to be for the foreseeable future until Europe commits to 50% of their GDPs for rearmament for literal decades. Their rich will not agree to stop being rich for that war, nor will their middle and working class agree to stop having luxuries for that war. Its just not going to fucking happen.

>>1485098
Meanwhile the UK is literally rubbing shoulders with the same country that has fucked literally every country they have done business with.
https://thediplomat.com/2024/06/caught-between-allies-chinas-north-korea-dilemma/

America under MIGA is being a bunch of rude, obnoxious retards but to compare it to China who has famously became allies with multiple border states just to kill its leadership and take it over to merge with China is simply delusional retardation. China's only loyalty is to China. At least Orange retard will be ousted this November.

>>1485103
No one needs to fight a war you retard. The economic destruction is enough. Your "we have infinite money!" argument is an inherent fallacy.

>>1485107
>No one needs to fight a war you retard. The economic destruction is enough.
People say this and think China is going to be an economic powerhouse when part of the reason no one wants to do business with China is because 100% of their economy is planned. It's the world's fakest economy that makes the US's debt-driven economy of scams and hype seem professional.

This the reality of doing business with China that the UK will soon learn: When you do business with China, and you're smaller than China, you will get scammed. China's economy serves China.

>>1485106
>>1485109
>China serves China
Everyone knows this and they're STILL more appealing to do business with right now than the US. That should say a lot about how absolutely fucking braindead Trump's policy is.

>>1485107
The US has to fight a war, retard. If you think that America is going to quietly slide into second place under anyone or simply allow people to dismantle its international power, you've got another think coming. War is how powers settle grievances when money and clout won't do, and the US has been preparing for that war every single year, month after month, since the last World War, even going so far as to continually fight bush wars in the brown parts of the world to make sure we never lose our experience base. The economic destruction ceases to matter in times of Total War until after the war, countries are going to do what they have to, issue IOUs and debt to do it, and since you can't exactly repossess the Army's car, there isn't really thing one anyone can do about it.

>>1485110
>Everyone knows this and they're STILL more appealing to do business with right now than the US
Only from low-IQ retards like Starmer.
Everyone realizes that Trump is a passing fad and will be virtually powerless in 2026 come November. His reign only exists because he owns all three branches of Government. Including him, he's trying to do as much damage as possible because he knows his time is limited.

Starmer doing business with China directly is only because he is literally the stupidest Dictator (Yes, he's a dictator) the UK has ever had and the worst politician Labour has ever seen. Even third world dictatorships aren't fucktarded enough to do business with China directly unless they're actually desperate.

>>1485111
>Guys we'll just go to war with the entire world
>That'll save our fucked economy
What's more likely is the US tries this, falls into a civil war, and then rips itself apart for a while until we turn into the next USSR and have the bigger pieces be trying to get the smaller ones back for the next century. Either that or WW3 happens and we all get nuked.

>>1485115
Yes, unironically it will save our fucked economy, because the entire world is not one unit and they're not going to be. China is never going to ally with Europe, Europe is not a single polity but a bunch of squabbling states with no common interest, and as soon as the US goes off its rocker every nation is going to start looking out for themselves, same as every other war. This isn't the Concert of Powers any longer, that age has come and gone and represents a statistical outlier in history built and maintained by a specific class of world leaders who are all dead now.

Its more likely that the US starts conquering with Canada, Mexico and Greenland and nobody does a fucking thing because nobody is interested in dying for anyone who is not themselves. Meanwhile this will represent a huge resurgence in American power, both militarily and economically, as it gains uncontested control of new lands, assets and properties with an absolute minimum of losses. On top of that, it already has weapons to completely disarm the nuclear triad, so any nuclear war will just come down on America's enemies one-sidedly.

>>1485115
>What's more likely is the US tries this, falls into a civil war
That's not happening, the US is full of the fattest and stupidest retards on the planet. That's why Petti getting shot didn't result in nationwide protests to investigate ICE. They could have federal agents directly confiscating votes all across the nation and they wouldn't do shit.

America only gets this much muscle because Americans fight back the least.

>>1485121
>Robot soldiers
>Unmanned aircraft
>Basically only need the Navy and the nukes
At what point does anybody need the fat and stupid retards? This'll be the first continent-conquering army made up of less than a quarter million people total. You will accept American rule and you will like it, you thirdie shitstain.

>>1485120
>Genuine psyche-ward level delusions
Ok there bud, back in the cell.

>>1485114
You realize it isn't just Trump, right? The possibility of another Trump alone is enough to discourage working with the US. You cannot trust a trade partner that has demonstrated it has no issue putting a retard who will cause 4 years of complete unreliability in charge at any time.

>>1485102
>they'll start importing opium into the UK lmao
>opium
NBC's coverage of the previous Olympics was sponsored by Honkai Star Rail.
miHoYo's already gotcha with gacha. Lol.

>>1485127
>Trump bad because he's orange
>Xi is good even though he has literal slave camps of Uygher muslims and China is a ruthless dictatorship that disappears journalists
The total lack of a coherent ethical standard among leftists will never not be hilarious

>>1485141
>coping this hard that Trump made America worse than China
lmao, what a faggot

>>1485141
No one likes working with a retard whose trade policy is decided by what he saw on Fox News that night. This isn't about moral character, it's about who will be reliable and who won't be. And right now Trump flip flops so much and so often for such nonsensical and petty reasons there is no reason to even try to work with him.

>>1485144
>>1485143
Do you mind taking Xi's schlong out of your mouth before you post? This is embarrassing

>Trump imposing tariffs on China directly is only because he is literally the stupidest Dictator (Yes, he's a dictator) the US has ever had and the worst politician Republicans have ever seen. Even third world dictatorships aren't fucktarded enough to impose tariffs on China directly unless they're actually insane
ftfy
'We will fail in this endeavor if the free countries do not continue their reduction of the barriers which they themselves impose on their trade with each other'
And this from a previous US president who was elected twice by Republican voters. Said president was not only all for free trade, but saw it as promoting what US represents: Freedom.
As was said of a Republican president about a couple of decades later in the 20th century, here in the 21st, only Starmer could go to China.
Also ftfy:
>Trump phones & watches made in China are only because he is literally the stupidest Dictator
The duality of the hypocrite.

>>1485194
Fuck Xi. Fuck Trump for literally empowering him by deciding to have the world's most schizophrenic economic policy to the point the rest of the world would rather work with Xi fucking Jinping than the US. I'm pissed because I can't even fucking blame them; you can't do economic policy with someone who will change his trade deals and tariffs depending on what magic 8 ball result he got that week.

>>1485141
>The total lack of a coherent ethical standard
>>1485194
>Do you mind taking Xi's schlong out of your mouth before you post? This is embarrassing
>says that with Trump's/Putin's microdicks in its mouth: probably both at the same time
The duality of the hypocrite.

>>1485196
Both the US and UK have 10% auto-sector tariffs positioned on the other. The US has also imposed a 25% tariff on steel an aluminum to onshore US production. Seems fair when considering the defense spending the US allocates for the benefit of NATO. The UK is actually receiving preferential treatment when compared to other nations. This idea that Trump is a schizophrenic, unfair partner to the UK isn't based in reality.

>>1485204
>This idea that Trump is a schizophrenic, unfair partner to the UK isn't based in reality.
He literally threatened 20% tariffs on them solely because they weren't ok with the idea of him taking Greenland. This was LAST WEEK.

>>1485207
It was 10%, first of all. Secondly, why is Starmer opposing a geopolitical trade that would be beneficial to the western global order? Sounds like he's been Xi's bitch longer than we've known publicly.

>>1485210
>Sounds like he's been Xi's bitch longer than we've known publicly.
Canada too

>>1485210
>why is Starmer opposing a geopolitical trade that would be beneficial to the western global order?
The US can literally do everything it would need to practically do for the sake of western global order in Greenland already. Encouraging blatant imperialism apparently brought on because he didn't get a fucking Nobel Peace Prize is just retarded.

Stop pretending like trying to claim Greenland through force and/or economic coercion is normal. If he'd stopped when he made an offer and was told no, like what's happened repeatedly in the past when the US expressed interest, no one would've given a shit. But now he went as far as threatening fucking tariffs until they support his annexation because his ego felt slighted.

>>1485216
Trump never threatened to use force in Greenland. Why should the UK intervene if Denmark and the US want to make a trade arrangement? All signs point to Starmer undermining the global order in favor of China. And we know Starmer is an unreliable actor based on his politicking in his own country.

>>1485218
>Trump never threatened to use force in Greenland.
Openly refused to rule it out until very recently where he finally TACOed.
>Why should the UK intervene if Denmark and the US want to make a trade arrangement?
But Denmark doesn't. They have made it repeatedly clear Greenland is not for sale.

Ironically the one actually undermining the global order in favor of China is Trump. Though whether he's doing so intentionally or is just that fucking stupid is up for debate.

>>1485219
>Openly refused to rule it out
Trump only ever said, "all options are on the table." That's not a threat. Only hyperventilating nancies twisted the meaning to construe a threat.
>But Denmark doesn't.
But they did make an arrangement. In spite of faggots in the UK throwing a conniption.
>Ironically the one actually undermining the global order in favor of China is Trump
This is pure projection, and it stems from some kind of imagined aggrievement. The US has been nothing but fair in its dealings with the UK. Starmer wants China because he wants to betray the west, just as he betrays the English people each day.

>>1485226
>Trump only ever said, "all options are on the table." That's not a threat.
When you say that in response to "Are you willing to use force to get Greenland?" it fucking is.
>But they did make an arrangement.
They have concepts of an arrangement. Meaning "Greenland jingled some keys in Trump's face". He didn't get what he wanted.

>>1485234
>When you say that in response to "Are you willing to use force to get Greenland?"
It's not. A threat requires intent. Trump never expressed an intent to use force. You interpreted as a threat because you're an emotional woman.
>They have concepts of an arrangement.
Even if I were to grant that the arrangement is a nothing burger, who is Starmer to undermine strategic deals that benefit NATO? Especially after the UK repeatedly went out of their way to prolong war in Ukraine? It should be obvious to every European by now that Starmer has an ulterior allegiance.

>>1485236
>Especially after the UK repeatedly went out of their way to prolong war in Ukraine?
Oh ok you're just a russian bot and I can safely disregard your opinion.

>>1485239
>Russian bot
Truly the last cry of the btfo libtard. How many peace deals did the UK undermine? Do yourself a favor and look into how China benefits from a prolonged war in Ukraine. UK politicians have been sucking Chinese dick for at least a decade now. Sad but true

>>1485239
yeah, they're pretty bad at not exposing themselves, i guess that's how low the bar is in russia when it comes to lying

1485242
>How many times have my feelings been undermined?
ftfy

>>1485293
Troon moment

>>1485239
RT aren't sending their best

>>1485086
>They unironically have more in common with Russia at this point
That make sense, Republicans have been wanting to turn the US into Russia-lite for decades.
trump and project 2025 just removed any plausible deniability

>russia is still living rent free in the minds of troons in 2026

>>1485297
>trump and project 2025 just removed any plausible deniability
They're living in a certain river in Egypt

>>1485298
thanks for proving that you're a russia shill, oh and

>>>/hc/ go back

>>1485306
Is it mueller time yet

>Starmer
>'dictator'
Starmer's based, then.

>>1485114
>Everyone realizes that Trump is a passing fad
Do you really think Trump came out of nowhere, with totally new ideas never expressed anywhere by anyone else (anti-immigration, revitalizing American industry, cutting off any contributions to international partners), totally captured the complete loyalty of 40% of the voting population and convinced another 10% to give him a shot (3 times), and everything he stood for will be forgotten when he leaves office or dies?

Cause he's not, he rode on growing anger among the less educated, blue collar Americans who were the losers of the increasingly globalized economy, people who blame the elites for their situation but cannot to see beyond their anger to appreciate how hard the problem is. He took advantage of the increase popularity in online discourse, a lot of which are radicalizing, and growing distrust in large institutions. He sold people simple solutions: none of this is your fault, fuck immigrants, fuck other countries, fuck liberals. This has always been a winning narrative when times are tough and is still a winning formula. Those people aren't going to stop using boomer facebook pages or twitter or stop watching fox news to read a book filled with citations and not written by a hack pundit , they're going to keep using boomer facebook pages, or twitter, or whatever the fuck.

Shut the fuck up a moment and think: conservatism is nothing but Trump for the past 10 years. Your passing fad has captured essentially all of conservatism for 10 years, and there's more years to go.

>>1485313
How many hormone blockers are you on right now

>>1485141
>MMUUUUUUHHHHHHH UYYYYGGGGHHHHEEEEEERRRRRRSSSSSSSSS
Who the fuck would listen to the US moralfagging about muslim mistreatment when it's giving weapons to Israel bombing children in Gaza?

FFS this shit is literally
>muzzie: >:(
>muzzie bur asian :)

>>1485315
>It's OK when China does it
Step away from the keyboard, chang

>>1485314
Listen man, I wrote all of that shit to genuinely inform you why Trump's influence within the GOP won't be gone after 2028, because the post I responded to seemed to genuinely believe that.

If that shit was just a loltrollpost then continue being a bitch about other countries deciding to have other relations.

>>1485313
Good post

>>1485314
Good post

>>1485313
>he rode on growing anger among the less educated, blue collar Americans who were the losers of the increasingly globalized economy
And of course, the global economy should not be what decides their lives, their future, and the future of their family. Ethnic/Heritage Americans voted to keep their country intact, not to sell it out for the fastest buck.

>>1485340
They voted to do that? Is that right? The president who is trying to devalue the dollar and have US manufacturing take a slice of China's pie in the global economy, who is threatening the federal reserve for lower interest rates so there will be more rampant borrowing and debt, and publicly stated that he wants house prices to remain high. That's the guy that was voted in to protect the country from the global economy?

Yeah good luck with that. Like I said, lots of anger, not a lot of understanding the problem, and not a lot of good ideas as a result.

>>1485341
>They voted to do that? Is that right?
Yes, actually. Trump may not be extreme enough to give them what they wanted, but that is why they voted for him. Take a step back from the economy and you'll find it easier to understand.

>>1485345
>Trump may not be extreme enough to give them what they wanted, but that is why they voted for him.
Winner! You got it.
And >>1485341 is partially right. Anger was the driving motivator. If Trump doesn't remedy the war being waged against us, then we will manifest a leader who will do that for us.

>>1485346
>>1485345
So you voted to burn the economy to the ground and turn America into a oligarchy.
That's so quintessential conservative.

>>1485345
>day of the rope in 2 more weeks
Sure, whatever. However you have conceded the original argument: if conservative America is only going to elect more extreme leadership with more antagonistic policies towards foreign countries, those countries will lose more trust in the US and speed up cutting all ties with America. Good luck trying to sell manufactured goods then.

>>1485351
Would you sell your mother into slavery if the price was right?

>>1485351
>So you voted to burn the economy to the ground
The people who keep saying the sky is falling are the ones that are either 1) not american or 2) profiteering from the corruption that has been ruining America for so long.
Six years ago all I wanted was to be left alone and play videogames. Fast forward to 2016 and half the country said I was a nazi because I wanted more job security via less migration. And now rich elites are saying that they need a civil war because Trump is enforcing federal law.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzoxHqP6fG0

>>1485354
If your mother is a boomer, then she's the one selling you out.

>>1485352
>However you have conceded the original argument: if conservative America is only going to elect more extreme leadership with more antagonistic policies towards foreign countries, those countries will lose more trust in the US and speed up cutting all ties with America.
Rather, the extreme policies are a way of achieving a more stable form, a long term homeostasis that will return the conditions that the US was in when it first established those global trusts and alignments in the first place

>>1485361
The US established dominance because the rest of the industrialized world (Europe) suicided their economies in WW2, and all other countries haven't industrialized. That is no longer the case, many more countries have industrialized and aren't so eager to go to war to lose it all again. Clock's not turning back anytime soon, American workers have to compete with the rest of the world on cost and quality, and the real estate mogul isn't trying to isolate the country from it.

>>1485352
>I wanted more job security
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-layoffs-soar-past-1-1m-2025-highest-level-since-pandemic

>>1485363
>The US established dominance because the rest of the industrialized world (Europe) suicided their economies in WW2, and all other countries haven't industrialized. That is no longer the case, many more countries have industrialized
Why are we helping those countries industrialize and letting their people immigrate and essentially take over parts of the US to operate as outposts for their home countries?

>>1485365
>Why are we
What do you mean by "are"? They already industrialized. China has industries that surpassed the corresponding ones in the US, like rare earths refining and EVs. If you mean "did", ask the asset owners why they love making money.

Guess who else loves making money? The orange migger you voted for. He'll surely reverse all of this.

>>1485366
>If you mean "did", ask the asset owners why they love making money.
I'm asking you since you're defending it as the right way for Americans to think and vote.
In your line of thinking, the ideal would be that the United States becomes a vassal state of whatever country has the biggest, strongest economy at any given time. Whether the dominant foreign power is on the outside or the inside makes no difference in your worldview.

>>1485367
>United States becomes a vassal state
Nice strawman lol, what a shit quality post. I never spoke of vassalage, I only said that US workers have to compete internationally, that is merely how it is. This international trade system was advanced by arguably no other country more than the US did during its period of dominance, and now that the US is no longer happy with the system, they voted in a guy who doesn't want to divorce from the system but implements a bunch of scatterbrained, half assed measures that go nowhere but weaken the US position. It's just reality, you can argue about it if you like to argue with reality, but I'm done.

>>1485373
>Nice strawman lol, what a shit quality post. I never spoke of vassalage
That's the logical conclusion of your point.
>I only said that US workers have to compete internationally, that is merely how it is.
More than that, you argued that by any means necessary, the US must remain the top of the global economy. In your view, this can happen by importing the world into the US, or for the same effect, by ceding control of the US to a stronger foreign government. They mean the same thing in practice. As I have said, to better understand the core American mindset, you would need to take a step back from the economy and empathize with a more complete view of what the country means to those people. And, while Trump is not the sole solution to the problem, he offers obvious benefits, even symbolically, that other candidates simply do not.

>>1485365
>Why are we helping those countries industrialize
Just ask Elongated Muskrat, who wanted a Tesla battery gigafactory in China: and all for the bargain price of Xitter not being allowed to exist in that country.

>>1485378
>he offers obvious benefits
But not to those who aren't his billionaire buddies.
All cultists have done is own themselves to 'own the libs'.