Anonymous Rep. Thomas Massie forcing vot(...) 09/15/26(Tue)22:28:42 No. 1537254 https://abcnews.com/Politics/rep-thomas-massie-forcing-vote-pete-hegseths-impeachment/story?id=136470894 Outgoing Republican Rep. Thomas Massie seized the House floor for more than an hour Tuesday afternoon, launching a long-shot effort to impeach Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth stemming from his controversial administration over the Pentagon, including the war in Iran. After sending a news release announcing his intent to impeach Hegseth, Massie quickly appeared on the floor where he stood for more than 67 minutes reading the sweeping 34-page resolution with eight articles of impeachment aloud. "Secretary Hegseth has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as Secretary of Defense and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice, and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States of America," Massie read from the resolution, contending that Hegseth will "remain a threat to civilians and the laws of war, the integrity of United States diplomacy, and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with his duties and the rule of law." "Peter Brian Hegseth thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States," the resolution states. The Pentagon responded to Massie's move, defending Hegseth in a statement to ABC News. "Secretary Hegseth has been a transformative leader for the Department of War," Pentagon press secretary Kingsley Wilson said in the statement, later adding that the "entire Department is unified behind the Secretary’s vision and will continue working to put our warfighters and America first." >>
Anonymous 09/15/26(Tue)22:29:07 No. 1537256 The articles of impeachment against Hegseth include ignoring laws that minimize civilian casualties, administering an "unlawful war" in Yemen, ordering extrajudicial killings, suppressing free speech and kidnapping a sovereign leader -- alluding to the U.S. capture of Nicolas Maduro early this year. "Frankly, I was concerned that Mike Johnson would end Congress again, like shorten even our already truncated work period if he found out I was doing this. So I shared the idea with nobody," Massie said. Massie, a conservative who has gained a reputation as a constitutionalist through his seven terms in the House, lost a primary earlier this summer after Trump endorsed his opponent. It's unclear whether the vote will succeed, given Republicans' narrow majority in the House. Speaker Mike Johnson can lose two Republican votes before a third defection upsets the majority. Unless GOP leaders change the floor schedule again, the House must hold a vote on the resolution within two-legislative days -- by Thursday, which would force Republicans to go on the record defending Hegseth ahead of the high-stakes midterm elections. GOP leaders could offer a motion to table the resolution or cancel the legislative session scheduled for Thursday to avoid the vote. Speaking to reporters afterward, Massie explained that he introduced the articles of impeachment to place a "marker" in history on what he said was both President Donald Trump's and Hegseth's "illegal" conduct. >>
Anonymous 09/15/26(Tue)22:30:08 No. 1537257 “Doing this wasn't predicated on whether it could succeed or not; there needs to be a marker in history,” Massie said. "The president has exceeded, and Secretary Hegseth specifically, in many ways himself, and sometimes directed by illegal orders from the president, they have exceeded all norms for rules of engagement for how you use or misuse our military, to take oil from another country, to kidnap a foreign leader, like somebody needs to put a marker in history, and that's what this is. Hopefully, it passes, and they can litigate this in the Senate.” Massie also told ABC News he had waited until Tuesday because it presents the last possible time to force consideration of a privileged resolution Congress before the midterms. Massie added he felt he had exhausted all other legislative ways to stymie the war in Iran as well as other foreign military interventions. "Why today? Because Speaker Johnson has basically canceled the rest of Congress until the elections," Massie explained. "Two days from now is the end of our session before we go on recess, and there can be a vote within two days. So I had to do it today." >>
Anonymous 09/15/26(Tue)22:43:10 No. 1537259 >>1537254 BushDemocrats strike again, it seems.>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)00:21:52 No. 1537267 >>1537254 Pete Hegseth is a full-fledged war criminal and deserves nont only an impeachment but also actual serious jail time.>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)00:40:40 No. 1537272 >>1537267 Even without the war crimes he's weakened and fucked up this military with stupidity so bad it is near-indistinguishable from intentional sabotage.>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)04:15:48 No. 1537285 >>1537254 Pete's too busy running beauty pageants for his Next Top Warrior to notice. The winner gets to stand next to him during his speech and work out together. Please leave a message.>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)04:18:27 No. 1537286 >>1537254 >"Secretary Hegseth has been a transformative leader for the Department of War," That's true. He's completely fucked it up.>the "entire Department is unified behind the Secretary’s vision Also true. Because he's purged everyone who disagrees with him. >and will continue working to put our warfighters and America first." Great. Too bad you fucking suck at it. But don't worry, we know it's a lie anyway.>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)04:40:05 No. 1537292 Oh lawd. He's the new bald dead faggot who ran for president as a Republican and told everyone to vote for Obama. Who was that asshole? And what do Democrats have on Massie to make him pull such a random 360? >>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)05:50:03 No. 1537293 >>1537292 >And what do Democrats have on Massie to make him pull such a random 360? Spoken like someone who doesn't know Massie.>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)13:40:37 No. 1537329 >>1537272 The military is more powerful than it's ever been, actually.>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)13:58:14 No. 1537331 >>1537329 Ok so why is the strait still closed and why are we randomly downgrading our catapult systems?>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)14:16:00 No. 1537334 >>1537331 Confirmation bias is a bitch,>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)14:30:31 No. 1537335 >>1537331 The catapult systems are actually being upgraded per President Trumps orders. I know you have TDS but President Trump ordering it doesn't make it bad, it just makes you blatantly, irrationally, uncritically anti-Trump And the strait is open, president Trump already confirmed his navy is escorting dozens of ships per day. If other ships aren't crossing it's their fault for their cowardice.>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)14:51:02 No. 1537337 >>1537335 The strait is gay and we're losing the war because decades of stockpiled munitions are emptied. Iran sploded them all. No, China doesn't pay me to make these claims and embolden Iran. Man, I soo can't wait until we (China) have sanity back in the whitehau tha we can railroad>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)15:43:30 No. 1537343 Esl shill is talking to himself again >>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)17:29:58 No. 1537380 >>1537335 >The catapult systems are actually being upgraded per President Trumps orders They're objectively being downgraded. We are reverting to older systems, not installing new ones.>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)17:38:59 No. 1537381 >>1537380 >Who even wants reliable tested solutions in the military? >Bleeding edge tech is an upgrade. It's not like lives are on the line. >Newer technology being unreliable is a failing of Trump. and Trump will render ships useless without such bleeding edge tech. What is wrong with the modern Democrat? The sky remains not falling. And do you even care about the argument you're trying to make?>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)17:42:02 No. 1537385 >>1537381 what's wrong with getting a real job>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)17:45:17 No. 1537387 >>1537381 >Literally arguing that it's actually so much better we'll be spending millions to billions of taxpayer dollars refitting our ships with systems that are older, less efficient, and heavier >Meanwhile Trump's logic is effectively "I like those old ones more" >>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)18:02:18 No. 1537401 >>1537329 >The military is more powerful than it's ever been, actually. You sound like a fat hairy bitch telling herself she's beautiful in her mirror.>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)20:45:10 No. 1537424 >>1537385 Exactly. Democrats need to stop pushing government welfare and encourage people to get real jobs instead of collecting government handouts>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)20:47:56 No. 1537428 >>1537424 right over your head, huh esl shill>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)21:02:41 No. 1537438 >>1537428 There's nothing wrong with getting a real job and losing your welfare benefits liggeral>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)21:05:18 No. 1537443 esl shill is trying to force his meme again >>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)23:16:15 No. 1537474 >>1537380 >We are reverting to older systems, not installing new ones. The newer systems are inferior because the tech hasnt been fully ironed out yet and they have significant down-time due to breakdowns. Steam is reliable. In war reliability matters.>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)23:18:03 No. 1537476 >>1537474 trying to justify anything trump orders as if he's king is futile, but keep trying>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)23:22:19 No. 1537477 >>1537476 No, its been pretty widely publicized and discussed. Like, I know its your job to sit here all day and make everything about Trump but this has been a problem since day 1 with the Ford-class carriers.>>
Anonymous 09/16/26(Wed)23:34:29 No. 1537478 esl shill kept trying >>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)01:24:36 No. 1537497 >>1537387 Didn't Trump commission the original Ford class ships with the ESL magneshits? Perhaps it's not "I like" but an "It's not ready based on information". Imagine giving dRumpf the benefit of the doubt. And you know what? If we need to change it again, we can just raise taxes on billionaires or some fucking shit. No one believes you give a single care about a single penny the government spends you fucking idiot.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)01:41:00 No. 1537498 Trump made a lot of decisions to improve the government, like burying an investigation into a global pedophile ring to protect child fuckers. >>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)01:54:33 No. 1537500 >>1537498 Well, surely once Democrats are back in power they'll pick that investigation back up, as nearly all those implicated in the files are Democrats.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)02:40:19 No. 1537505 >>1537474 >>1537477 >>1537497 >Guys we're shifting back to the older, heavier and more inefficient models because the new ones are unreliable >Which is why, in the middle of an armed conflict, we will be spending billions of dollars having to retrofit these ships to use the old models they weren't built for These "reliability issues" Trump was harping about are effectively theoretical because "uh electric has more stopping points" and some soldiers were complaining during the initial switch over. The problem with this retarded EO is that you can't just swap them out like gun parts; steam catapults require immense amounts of steam piping that is heavy as shit on the ship itself and is ironically much more vulnerable in an actual conflict than wiring. So this is gonna effectively involve gutting all these fairly new ships to install the whole mess required for steam. And that's not getting into the mess of reliability issues ironically caused by how corrosive the one two punch of that much steam and salt water is. The really funny thing is you know what the electromagnetic systems excel in? Drone warfare. AKA that thing that has been defining modern battlefields since the start of the Ukraine war. There's a reason why China and Europe immediately started installing these things across their navy when it became available. Trump seems to have latched onto a handful of complaints and disregarded the actual facts at hand; this shit is like going back to a nokia flip phone because your iphone crashed once.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)02:43:09 No. 1537508 >>1537505 So?>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)02:45:47 No. 1537509 >>1537508 >So? So this is an incredibly retarded decision that not only makes these ships weaker, but also is an absolute logistical nightmare to follow and implement. You're effectively looking at taking a state of the art ship and ripping it apart to the point of effectively a remodel, all to install a system that is inferior to the one you are removing.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)02:53:56 No. 1537510 >>1537509 OK, sure. Why aren't you in charge then? And you literally want the US to lose wars so you can attain political power. Why in the fuck would anyone listen to your opinion?>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)02:54:29 No. 1537511 >>1537254 Aaaand Mike sent them home early so they can't vote on it. At what point is this prosecutable? The Speaker of the House is deliberately sabotaging the House and keeping it from performing it's duties. >>1537500 >as nearly all those implicated in the files are Democrats If that was true then Trump would be using the files to destroy the Dems. Instead he's pretending they don't exist.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)02:55:30 No. 1537512 >>1537510 >OK, sure. Why aren't you in charge then? Non-answer>And you literally want the US to lose wars so you can attain political power. Ok so can you explain why these systems are apparently so unreliable we have to go through logistics hell to downgrade, or do you just entirely rely on "Trump said so"?>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)02:57:27 No. 1537513 >>1537512 Imagine disagreeing with experts. Did you do your own research?>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)03:02:24 No. 1537514 >>1537512 >Dis asshole wants us to use horsecatapults CHUD>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)03:09:27 No. 1537515 >>1537513 The experts are pointing out this is a stupid idea.>https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/14/politics/trump-steam-catapult-navy >Bryan Clark, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, added that the move would require the USS Doris Miller, which is already under construction, to be redesigned. The cost of that, he told CNN, “will probably be into the billions” and it could delay the carrier — which was expected to be in service around 2034 — “until the end of the next decade.” Oh, by the way, interesting little tidbit this article pointed out; no one makes steam catapult systems anymore. They weren't contracted out, they were made by the Navy directly and the Navy hasn't made one since 2009. We literally do not have the infrastructure for this change in the present.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)03:20:29 No. 1537516 >>1537515 >no one makes steam catapult systems anymore It can't be done then, I suppose... We're only Americans after all.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)03:33:29 No. 1537518 >>1537515 The experts are these guys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_for_Defense_of_Democracies FDD was founded in 2001 as "Emet" (אמת), which is Hebrew for "truth". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Institute Hudson Institute is an American neoconservative thinktank. >>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)03:50:07 No. 1537520 >>1537498 To be fair, he was one the leaders of that pedophile ring and murdered the co leader to keep him silent. But the damage was already done given Epstein created /pol/.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)03:57:07 No. 1537522 >>1537520 You do realize if Epstein created /pol, it was to contain them, right? And he was on your side. Alone with Maxwell who was a reddit mod. So essentially, Epstein and Maxwell created modern democrat bullshit.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)11:14:49 No. 1537573 >>1537516 >Guys please, we have to now spend a few years remaking all the infrastructure and manufacturing so we can install objectively inferior systems onto our battleships >And then once we have all the resources, we then need to gut our brand new/in construction ships to fit these clunky and inferior systems within China is laughing at us as they outfit their stuff in the same systems we're discarding.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)11:15:54 No. 1537574 >>1537254 >adjourns house until after midterms to avoid a vote on this >basically just guaranteed the first thing the inevitable dem majority gets to vote on is removing Hegseth Thanks (R)etards.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)11:48:36 No. 1537577 >>1537574 >basically just guaranteed the first thing the inevitable dem majority gets to vote on is removing Hegseth The vote would be held before the new Congress is in. Also none of this bullshit matters because the Republicans have enough votes to protect any criminal they want in the Senate.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)14:58:02 No. 1537597 >>1537577 Then why didn't Mike allow the vote?>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)17:18:06 No. 1537615 >>1537597 Because they know Hegseth's approval rating is dogshit and none of them want to be caught arguing for him to stay before midterms.>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)18:54:17 No. 1537618 We are winning. SecWar Hesgeth is doing a masterful job. We can't let the liggerals try to remove him when total victory is within our grasp. Iran is close to total collapse. Their people are rioting over rising prices. Two more weeks and the IRGC will be toppled by the people of Iran. We can't allow liggers to sabotage our victory. >>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)19:07:53 No. 1537619 1537618>We >We >We Hi, esl shill. >>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)19:34:04 No. 1537622 sorry you're too esl to understand the context of "we" in this setting >>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)19:34:35 No. 1537623 it's fucking hilarious how esl shill tries to copy me >>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)19:46:44 No. 1537624 I find it funny how this liggeral pretends to be american, but whenever someone says "we" he reveals he isn't one of us >>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)20:00:37 No. 1537626 Everyone will find it funny how that which constantly hates liggerals actually loves them:>>1537046 >>1537067 >>1537098 No "context" excuse allowed by that which loves what it claims to "hate".. >>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)20:01:50 No. 1537627 1537619 1537622 1537623 samefag >>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)20:03:53 No. 1537628 >>1537623 It's even more hilarious how the esl shill tries to copy others: 1537627>>
Anonymous 09/17/26(Thu)20:19:29 No. 1537629 >>1537618 >We are winning. SecWar Hesgeth is doing a masterful job. We can't let the liggerals try to remove him when total victory is within our grasp. Iran is close to total collapse. Their people are rioting over rising prices. Two more weeks and the IRGC will be toppled by the people of Iran. We can't allow liggers to sabotage our victory. *This is a parody account>>
Anonymous 09/18/26(Fri)02:08:35 No. 1537684 > the entire Department is unified That would be a first in any military>>
Anonymous 09/18/26(Fri)07:09:52 No. 1537695 >>1537522 >Trying to gaslight this much /pol/ as a containment board has always been a failure ESL shill. You can't remove the fact that Epstein is the face of conservationism.>>
Anonymous 09/18/26(Fri)09:12:32 No. 1537697 >>1537618 I dont give a fuck about your faggot war for fags, i want lower gas prices. Make it happen now, like Trump promised when he was running. I dont give a shit about other countries, we should be using the money spent on this war for Americans you fucking doublenigger
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