Ordered a super miata shift knob but it doesn’t have the laser etched SUPER MIATA logo.One third of the ND oem shift knob weight, makes shifting feel more mechanical and effortless, but shape will take some getting used to.Post your shifters bros.Other non suv Mazda owners welcome
2016-2018>Slap some 205/50R15 Nankang AR-1's on the bitch>Break the open 6">Break the 6" VLSD>Break another open 6"2018>Bite bullet and slap a 7", a torsen type II in>Oh yes very nice corners go brrrrr2024 last week>Sure is noisy, better take it apart2024 today>Then who was phoneSo, instead of spending 2kNZD from local wrecker/rimjobbers, should I just do all the bearings and slap a muhfuggin Giken in there?>Stop launching it at intersectionsNo u.
>>27560192Oh sorry here's my knob.Weighted/all stainless.
>>27560192kek, man NDs are junk. This is proof that 4th Gen is last Gen and shit gen. Idk what the fuck they were thinking with the gay little chinkshit headlights too.
White trash general lol
>>27560174>MY SHIFT KNAWB BROOone thing you will never see ND faggots discuss is boost. Little easy to install trinkets and LED lighting will get discussed all day though.
>>27560578Your mom loved discussing my shift knob after slobbing my knob last night
>>27560591>deflecting Lol of course, of course.
>>27560555he has an NA what are you smoking?
>>27560595I drive an NB faggot I don't have to deflect shit
>>27560578I’ll get a bbr200 but not until after warranty ends I’m also not convinced by their high flow air filter
where the fuck can I get a brand new evaporator core for a 99/00 LHD miata? the one on rockauto is wrong, it's for an NB2, and I don't want a used one
So let me get this straightThis tiny underpowered vehicle is a car enthusiast dream?
>>27560174Obviously not an enthusiast-class car, but had surprisingly solid shifting experience with a manual 2014 Kia Soul. I'd even say the shifting itself was better than in a manual Acura TSX I had after that.Miss them both dearly.-The wife's Mazda CX5 prisoner
>>27562155Yes. Just go test drive one and form your own opinion. Nothing good can come of further "discussion" because the only thing retards on this website know how to do is to devolve into irrelevant benchracing with numbers on paper when the MX5's primary engineering goal is to feel good to drive, not to win straight line races with obviously faster cars.
fill up the trunk all the way and the pasenger seat/footwell on a costco trip. Loaded down and taking the twisty way home. Still get 40mpg.love my ND2.
>>27561994>evaporator coreIl motorsport sells OEM and aftermarket stuff too
>>27560578>>27560569>>27560555>>27560595>>27562155piss off mateall I see are beemers, mercs and porschs bogged down by the road when I go cornering
>>27560192What oil do you use? Sulfur and cavitation can make bite marks like those.
>>27563511Don't feed the trolls
>>27563500They've got one in the full kit for $1300, but it appears to be the NB2 model anyway. The fittings on the ends of the hoses and evaporator core changed to use a block type expansion valve instead of the older sensing bulb type. If I could find an NB2 in a junkyard I could grab its AC lines and condenser (yes, that changed too) for much cheaper than getting that full kit and shipping it across the atlantic.
Can there be more söybooru car club? A fuckibg knob
My '90 AC shit the bed. Compressor is bad. Finding 90-93 is a POS. I can find used ones but they look like shit. What do.
Shiftknob of my Snek
>>27563670Convert to NA8 or NB, that gets you a proper R134a system anyway instead of running the wrong refrigerant in your R12 system.
>>27563679fuck. I have the engine completely out so now is the time to do it.
fuck this stupid fucking car
>>27563714Kind of how I feel looking at mine on jack stands the past year.Do I finish the vvt swap and see if I enjoy it again. Or put the 1.6 back in it and sell it as-is + the MS3 I bought separately.
>>27563609they have all typeshttps://www.ilmotorsport.de/en/nb/spare-parts-airconditioning-condensor/l/2318
>>27563511I learned to drive in a Miata when I was a teenager lmaoJust find it out this barely bigger than a kei car thing is such a big car guy thing
>>27563735Those are condensers, I need the evaporator core (the one under the dashboard). Mine leaks. Not badly, but if I run it for long enough I can smell refrigerant.
>>27563670put the top down
>>27564875I'm white. I don't need skin cancer
>>27563526Been using redline 75w90NS while in my possession. Could have been run with low/shit oil. It's also 20 years old too I guess.All the fucking Giken units are out of stock globally because of superior nippon supply chain issues. Vendors want me to pay up front for what could be out of stock for a minimum of 3 months, which is fair, but also minimum 3 months and some wont even tell me how long the queue is.
>>27563671Based long Miata owner
>>27565538>75w90NSshould be good, but the teeth are ridged to oblivionGikens are stronger?
>>27565618Crown/pinion look brand new and I did the oil every xmas.Gikens are supposed to be the be-all, end-all in terms of durability with track use and have the highest level of adjustments with plates/cams/springs etc.The problem with the TorSens is that you can no longer buy the spur or worm gears. Not from Mazda and not from the original manufacturer, they don't give two shits. They are also getting extremely rare, minimum 2kNZD for a torsen and they're all 2nd hand, people here want $800 for a fucking open diff.Seems Mazdas stock of new old units ran out late 2000's and though there are a few new units kicking around, they're just as expensive as the Giken if not more because of spec miata rules.Springing a couple more notes for a Giken seemed a reasonable upgrade in performance, durability and rebuildability.
Is there generation smugness among Miatians? Like does NA think they're the hot shit and all later gens are poopoo?
>>27565962I hate NDs
cuuuunt
the touchscreen broke on this early ND and I had to take it apart to change the glassIt is possible to get a new touchscreen for 15 €, but the Infotainment has to be taken apart.
The glass is gued to the metal frame, but boiling the shit out of it makes it easier to pry the glass off
>>27566201>>27566218>>27566227intaradestong, are android replacements a thing for these yet?
like so>>27566230yes, you can get an Alpine unit fitted, but I've seen one that hides under the dash aswell.
>>27566233based miata healer
the knob
>>27566381funny they kept the same order for the hvac controls as na/nb. not sure about nc. from left to right it goes, temp control, fan speed, positioning. what a good car
>>27566405oh wait no actually the na had a different setup. this was clearly modeled after the most superior generation, the NB.
looks like they beefed it on the NC as well. from left to right it goes positioning, temperature control, fan speed. this is not the winning combination and probably why NC sales struggled.
>>27566416hideous
>>27566416Oh look, it's the retarded thing every late 2000s car did- making the HVAC controls and radio one unit so replacing the radio with something else is a nightmare, if it's even possible at all. I had a dual climate control 2006 Outback XT and that was by far the worst fucking thing about the car. They weren't just in the same housing, it was one PCB. Nobody makes an aftermarket solution to keep the HVAC controls except for a rare expensive JDM one that is the wrong color to match the interior and doesn't fit properly because it's for a RHD and the dash curves around the driver.
>>27566584And also of course you can't convert down to the manual 3 knob climate controls from the lower trim levels which do have cheap dash kits without pulling the dash, swapping the entire HVAC box out, and doing some rewiring.
>>27566381where is the rest of your dash? what are you working on?
The lower ball socket on passenger-front needs replacing and apparently the rear brakes are imbalanced. Such a poorly treated miat. :c
>>27565152sun screen?A little SPF90
>>27566233>but I've seen one that hides under the dashI've been able to find no such thing. I need this!
>>27565962only the NC is bullied but we still love it.
>>27565962Maybe everyone else would stop feeling insecure about not having popup lights, but here we are.The reality is that the NA chassis is such a wobbly piece of shit that the main buying point for a hardtop is that it stiffens the chassis and reduces cowl shake. The early manuals had a radiator so thin they often overheated on stock power, I think it was 14mm or something and that's behind a condenser.The 6" diffs explode with stock power.THe engine was taken from a car designed to mount transverse and so coolant re-route kits are a thing so you don't cook the 4th cylinder.The hot air heater core always has block-temp water going through it and the trans tunnel gets hot as fuck.There's a coolant outlet that's blocked off from factory that sits right under your CAS which has an o-ring that goes hard and cracks, leaking over this rubber which then swells and tears, leaking out coolant. It does this downstream of 3 temp sensors, such that the ECU and dash gauges start reading block air temperature and it just fuggin explodes and reports all temps still nominal.Half of the (admittedly huge) aftermarket following for these cars is to bandaid these issues. Want a stiffer chassis? Seam weld the entire chassis, drill 50 holes in your floorpan and mount big sturdy frame covers.I think it is that only in spite of this that NA snobs are snobby.
>>27565962Im only smug against Miata owners who don’t wave backD
I've been bit by the miat bug and looking into the ND since NA's are hysterically overpriced anymore for the rusted out rebuild title shitheaps I can even find in the northeastAre ND transmissions really as shit as everyone makes them out to be? Have they improved at all for the ND3? I keep reading about ND2 transmissions grenading at like 20k miles but apparently not as often as the ND1It would be my first stick so it's probably going to take some abuse as I learn, but I'm not looking to track the damn thing, but it would be my daily
>>27568657>muh cheese chassis I just crooze
>>27568739More like you fon-do.
>>2756872211k kms, so far so good, once I couldn’t get into 3rd. Cammisa shills the nc2 heavily but I just cannot live with the bloatface, but engine has a higher throttle cut off. Miata is fantastic to learn manual on. My gen 1 86 was like driving a Mazda 2 off idle I always needed throttle input or a super long clutch release to prevent it from stalling. Also it’s easy mode since you get hill stop assist. Kinda miss how much of a god you feel like being able to do hill starts without handbrake though.
New brake pads arrived finally. This area could have some cool roads but it's full of roos so I really need better brakes all round.
I'll have it back soon...1.8 VVT with a kraken turbo kit, MS3 mini ecu and a GBC20-300 turbocharger.Will replace the turbo with an EFR once I go forged internals.Supermiata Tecna coils for handling, thinking of getting Whiteline anti roll bars. Anyone got experience with those?
>>27568722only early 2015 NDs had the transmission problem.
>>27568881Not him but I see nd2 posts with tranny issues on Miata forum from time to time. They went a bit too far with gram strategy on the transmission I think
>>27566893I've retrofitted the android auto usb connector and replaced the Infotainment's touchscreen.
>>27568877I need to finish my fucking swap. 1.8 vvt with a square top manifold, and I have an MS3 + an AEM o2. All I would need is a kraken kit and I'm golden.
>>27568722ND1 trannies are shit until they get to temperature. Running Tutela 75W140 in the tranny and Castrol 75W90 in the diff fixes my synchro issues, but only after the tranny is warmed up. I can't even shift back from 2nd to 1st on the first try until that.
lacrosse ball
Does this count? The only other interior picture I have is with my old shift knob :(
stock knob
>>27560174engineers spent hours working out the correct weight for the shift knob. why would you get one that's lighter?
>>27570399based reusable dehumidifier user
>>27570399AHHHHHHHHHHH
>>27570415They had to balance for the boomers who want a comfy shift. The lighter knob makes shifting more raw and even more mechanical. Really like it actually switched back cos they’re sending out another knob and I can’t get used to the feel anymore
Welp the Gikens are all out and I'm not waiting up to 9 months for one and I'm not putting an open diff in for $700 because that's the gayest shit ever to touge.Cusco RS here we come, estimated delivery date of>5-10 working days to process>5-10 working days to ship>Also don't forget Golden Week in JapanChrist it feels like I'm being targeted.
>>27571742is open diff that bad compared to LSD?
>>27571742it's on stock in Germanyhttps://www.ilmotorsport.de/en/mx-5-os-giken-super-lock-lsd-6speed-mt-7197/2834
>>27566596it's usually not bad on the 2000 cars. there is usually an aftermarket bezel that will accomodate the OEM knobs. it's a real problem in the later 2010s cars that integrate a bunch of car functions into the radio. swapping in an aftermarket head unit gets way harder or impossible.>>27568180it's cause the nc is fat>>27568657i thought the noodly chassis was one of the endearing features of the NA
Been driving my NA for years now and finally test drove an ND2. I'm honestly a little dumbfounded after driving it because basically everything about it was worse than my NA.>steering was extremely numb and light>shifter was less mechanical>throttle response was worse>body roll was worse>no induction note at all. Once top was down I couldn't hear the engine>rev hang in 1-2 and to a lesser extent 2-3. In the NA I can bang off shifts but in the ND I felt like I was always waitingBottom line I just couldn't feel or hear anything and felt way less confident pushing it than my NA. Do mods save this car?
>>27571761IMO, night and day.Upgrading from rubbish 14's to 15" semi's was pretty night and day, really cast a shadow over my spring rate though.With the torsen swapped in I could take corners so hard that even at WOT I could sometimes lose speed.
>>27574125>steering was extremely numb and lightIt's EPAS, you cannot do anything about this.>shifter was less mechanicalNo idea.>throttle response was worseRemap ECU's throttle map.>body roll was worseGet stiffer ARBs.>no induction note at allGet a hot air filter and take off hood sound deadening.>rev hang in 1-2 and to a lesser extent 2-3. In the NA I can bang off shifts but in the ND I felt like I was always waitinghttps://youtu.be/mm6SSeLivqE?t=62
>>27574125What does rev hang have to do with which gear you’re in? It’s more a gearing issue isn’t it? For reference I came from a gt86 and i still shift too slow sometimes to where the engine rpm is lower than it should be when I go into gear.Induction note can be fixed by making your own sound tube, but desu when I drove an NA a few years back it didn’t seem super obvious to me either. My nd2 has kpc and bilsteins is like to test the normal nds because I always thought body roll made driving more entertaining. I remember the shifter in theNA being a lighter throw which is why I got the Felton shift knob, much more mechanical when you remove the 360g shift knob that comes stock with nd.
Run a Voodoo shift knob in crackle black
>>27574817ew
>>27574722>like to test the normal ndsI went from a base ND2 model. to the Club 2023. the amount of roll difference is huge. I miss the body roll in every day slower street driving but the tighter back roads are much more fun now.
>>27566584 HVAC knobs are separated from the radio. It is super easy to fit an aftermarket radio, all you need is a kit for the fascia for either single din or double din radio and they are only like $20.
>>27573841what phone mount is that?
>>27574704Supposedly FM/GWR alignments help with steering feel For induction noise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RjzFY6BR1Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38Cl-ZJbSXgHonestly pretty cool but I can see the dealer taking one look at this and trying to deny any possible warranty if I did this
>>27574817Star wars Diner vibes
>>27576710On another MG some Anon said it had a 1940's diner vibe, which I thought was a good analogy. I like the loud interior and muted exterior colour. My other Mx-5 is the opposite.
>>27576642amazon magnetic mount. its supposed to go into a vent but i screwed it to the center bezel so it's solid.https://www.amazon.ca/Magnetic-Universal-Cradle-Less-Magentic-Powerful/dp/B07QCWYLFK/ref=pd_ci_mcx_mh_mcx_views_0?pd_rd_w=e5R2Y&content-id=amzn1.sym.b70d88fb-b9b8-4610-890e-2815f2b902c2%3Aamzn1.symc.40e6a10e-cbc4-4fa5-81e3-4435ff64d03b&pf_rd_p=b70d88fb-b9b8-4610-890e-2815f2b902c2&pf_rd_r=C7MJ2XASG4K8SQMH9TMW&pd_rd_wg=x5afl&pd_rd_r=e0ad9b6c-5322-41de-ac31-b47a31ab70fc&pd_rd_i=B07QCWYLFK
>>27576706>warrantyno wonder, if that DIY membrane fails there will be a massive vacuum leak after the MAFdoes sound nice tho
Love this car butLowkeyThe cabin is too small. I’m 6’2 and my hair touches the roof it really fucks up the spiritual head chakra energy coming from my scalp.
>>27577982probably would have been fine in a soft top.
>>27560174My new-to-me transmission came with that knob and what a total piece of shit it is. Thanks for reminding me to go outside and switch the knob back out.
>>27577982just get a seat lowering rack desülad
>>27577982you’re a genetic failure. you’re the problem.
>>27577982Take off yer fursuit
Am I allowed here with my 4th gen Mazda3?
>>27580973you come here, asking for acceptance, and cant even post car?pathetic.
>>27580973It's been argued a few time that /mg/ should become mazda general.I got to drive a 2021 Mazda 3 (manual) on loner for a while and I can't stop thinking about how nice it was. Shortly after I got to rent a Corolla of the same year and it's laughable how bad that car is.The Corolla's suspension was so bad it felt broken and unsafe to drive. The 3 felt planted and agile.The interior of the 3 was also really high quality and comfy with good sound insulation. Corolla was all the cheapest plastics and rattled. Lots of road noise.
>>27582145In addition I used to own a 2007 Yaris and the build quality was much better than the new Corolla. WTF happed Toyota?
>>27582145Nobody complains about quality Mazda posts. There is a limit though.
>>27582171Owner was Chinese.
>journalists organise car event to compare driving skills and cars>apply and get invited>think that ND would be overkill>take me mom's 2nd Gen Prius instead>M2 Beemer, Models S, Type R, Golf GTI against me>literally outskill every driver, but the kid with red Golf GTI
>>27565655Import a diff from the UK. £150 for vlsd, around £50 for open
>>27581001It's a polymetal grey metallic mazda3 hatch carbon edition. It's stock because im lazy and haven't done anything to it yet. The carbon edition has the red seats, but the black leather dash, which I think is the best combo. I'd get a miata but im too tall I can't fit in them without modifications. So I got what I consider to be the next best thing. You probably don't care, but im going to post this anyway.Pic related but not mine
Just wanted to post my new whip. Two teens from Arkansas ran their light a month ago and we T-boned totaling my 500 Abarth. Joined the Miata senpai and loving it. The exhaust sounds amazing with the top down.
>>27582244priusGODs.... I kneel....>>27582462F for the fiata, they're pretty rare here but are good looking cars
>>27560219Clean your fuckin car faggot
>>27560174When's the last time you took your Miata on a hike?
>>27582619Shiiiiiiieeeet, according to this photo it was the 11th of August, 2022.>>27582284>£150Where the hell are you getting those numbers from?https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335294026560Cheapest I could find was a crusty one for £350, average was 400-500, and a 4.3 ratio is nearly a grand (wtf, I swear these were like £600 last I looked)
ND, NC, NB, NA, are all MX-5s, but only the NA is a Miata.
>>27582462I was curious about these, Engine can be tuned and a lot of components are ND interchangeable. Very interesting. Shame they basically dont exist up here in the frozen wastelands of scandinavia
>>27583181my nb literally says miata on the back though
>>27583181High levels of tism detected on this anon
I'm about to pull a trigger on a 2023 Miata rf automatic (yes I know I'm ultra gay for auto) that's left over. They want 42k out the door, I'm gonna try and haggle down to 39 out the door what are my chances of success?
>>27583412You’ll regret an automatic
Thoughts on this exhaust?https://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/61-1733.html
>>27584113It’s insane how gwr exhausts sell for over triple the price in Australia.
Faggots, what type of rtv to use on the input shaft seal on a 6 spd? Grey? Black? Ultra black?
>>27584324Ultra gray?????
>>27583181Many car guys agree that the NB is even more 'Miata' than the NA
Not a single one of the 2bit reviewers who mazda has given a 24 my to has said if the old DRL position has a fake grill in it or if its a real ducted vent
>>27583181I think you mean that only the NA is a Eunos Roadster.
>>27582482U rite.Did look nicer when it was clean.
>>27582462Love these.
just ordered an ND3 club with the brembo/recaro package lads.
>>27585197>There's an nd3 Bruhs..
>>27585217yup, there is: https://www.thedrive.com/news/2024-mazda-mx-5-miata-nd3-refresh-brings-mechanical-updates-and-new-tech
Is the ND3 going to be the last Miata?I worry the NE will be heavy, electric and expensive.Speaking of, is the I-ELOOP on the newer miots any good?
>>27585510NE and NF are already taken by the Fiat 124 Spider, I'm curious what they're going to do for the next gen Miata's chassis designation.
>>27577982I want hard top miata, but I'm 194cm, probably not fitting even in soft top.
>>27585760Did you think all the advantages of being tall didn't come with cost?This is the price you pay for all your shit. Now go buy a pigfat Mustang.
>>27585760don't listen to the midget cries from the depths of the manlet pit, I'm 6'2" and fit with room to spare in the driver's seat of an ND2 soft top. you'll be driving with the top down 99% of the time anyway. >>27586108cope
>>27585525NG maybe?>>27585510Mazda if anyone will do it properly. I have faith
Have an ND3 on order, will run it in on the Bridgestone Potenzas over the summer. Just get a feel for it stock. Next year though i plan on getting better summer tires. Thing is, i’m not sure if it’s actually needed, will form my own opinion after i get some miles, but until then was curious, what tires do you guys like for the fourth gen MX-5? I will not track the car, i just want to enjoy mountain twisties and road trips with some spirited but safe driving. Slide the back on occasion, maybe a couple of donuts in the parking lot. Nothing crazy. The stock tires seemed pretty slippery on the test drive, maybe Mazda was deliberate in choosing them. I am considering good Michelins, like Pilot Sport Cup 2 or Pilot Sport 4S, but i’m worried the improved grip will spoil the fun, if that makes sense. I know the car is no drift machine, but i still want to enjoy rear wheel drive shenanigans. Anyone here done any tire upgrades? Also curious about a wheel upgrade. Mine does not have the BBS wheels, just the stock 17 alloys. They might grow on me in person, in photos they look kinda sus. The one i testdrove had the nd2 wheels which look better imo. Anyway weight, strength, rigidity and looks would be important to me, not stance. I actually want something with close to stock offset and fitment. Don’t want them sticking out, throwing dirt and attracting cops if i can’t get them homologated (guess the Europoor country). Feel free to reply with general comments on rims and tires, also for other generations, especially if you also have 4x100 lugs, i believe the NA and NB also came that way but i might be wrong. I have a feeling there is some cross-shopping possible. Actually, was curious if i could run like some older gen 16s with serious winter tires, just swap them out every December, swap them back after the snow all melts.
>>27586915Yes, NA and NB are also 4x100 and you can cross-pollinate wheels between them and ND.
>>27586921That looks sick in all black. Shame you need those orange reflectors for the US market, but at least the look is not being spoiled by a front plate. Nice house too, that photo literally looks like the American dream, just missing a muscle car parked next to the miat to complete the picture.
>>27586962>Shame you need those orange reflectors for the US marketThese look really good especially on a black NDshttps://www.amazon.com/NSLUMO-Marker-2016-up-Replace-Sidemarker/dp/B08DD3PTV8/ref=asc_df_B08DD3PTV8
Knawb
>>27586921>Mazdaspeed wheelskek, damn those shits are heavy as fuck
>>27587511Is that the original restored? If so, nice job.
>>27587911They're heavy for an NA/NB, but they're right at home on an ND at 17 pounds each. The stock ND BBS 17s are 16.5 pounds and the stock non-BBS 17s are 17.8.
>>27587940It is, thank you! It’s an almost completely stock m-edition. I want to mod it but I would feel too bad so I’ve just been keeping it nice.
>>27588098>They're heavy for an NA/NB, but they're right at home on an ND at 17 pounds each.no
>>27588297It's right in the middle of two of its oem wheel options weight wise. No shit it can't compete weight wise with aftermarket options, but those cost significantly more since MSM owners usually can't even pay people to take those wheels off their hands since they're such a shit option for NA/NB.
My ND has been making high pitches scraping noises on the left side recently.Only when I go faster than like 20 km/h. And the noise goes away when I apply the brakes.I'm suspecting it might be rust, or maybe a small stone that got trapped somewhere. Do you see anything bad here? It only has 13,000 km.
>>27588881pic 2, some of these are loose or got lost
>>27588883pic 3, I think this was the front brake
>>27588881It's those rusted ass rotors scraping against the pads. Get some coated rotors and new pads off Rockauto and swap them out. Grab extra silicone grease so you can regrease the slide pins and the ears of the new pads too.
>>27588931I assumed that, but they only have 13,000 km so that's pretty dissappointing.And if I remember correctly, the scraping noise only appeared after I pressure washed the wheels recently. But it could be a coincidence
>>27562155Yes.
>>27588257A Starlight Mica 96. Pretty rare colour. I like yours stock.
>>27588881Has this car been sitting for a long time? You need new rotors or maybe have these resurfaced..
>>27560192whereabouts in NZ are u? Aucklander here
NA or NB? NB is cheaper but I love how the pop-up headlights look.
>>27590232Whatever you can get your hands on. These cars are going away. I really like the look of the NB but popups trump that.
I just realized my nd doesn’t have fender lights am I retarded or are the aftermarket’s supposed to be put where the panels are? Or did it change after a certain model year? Another autistic thing is the gtrs comes with black side mirror caps and I think all rfs are body colour matched
>>27590118Yeah I do homeoffice almost every day, and especially in winter I haven't felt like going outside much. So I only drove it like once every 2 weeks and it was sitting outside the whole time.Before this, it was the demonstration car of a dealership, where it also sat ourside all day and only got driven when someone wanted a demonstration
>>27590232They're basically the same underneath, but the NB is *technically* the better car. NB's have some added chassis strengthening, and an extra 10hp thanks to VICS, but the extra weight from said strengthening cancels out the bump in power, so in practice they're really no faster than the NA. The chassis strengthening also makes NB's rot more than NA's, so you have to check not only the standard MX5 rust areas like sills and arches, but ALSO the front chassis legs. Interiors on NB's are nicer than NA's, but they don't really have any more creature comforts, they just look and feel a tad better. NB's are also cheaper than NA's.TL;DR, NB is "better" practically, but just get which ever one you like aesthetically, they're basically the same car.>t. NA owner.
>>27590282They depend on the market. North American market cars have side markers in the bumper. Other markets don't have that.
>>27590476The NB trunk is also more usable if dailying is a concern. The battery and spare were moved below the trunk floor so they're not hogging a solid third of the trunk space anymore. I'm also fond of the NB's much more simple cam and crank sensor setup that replaced the finicky and expensive CAS. I also don't quite agree that the NB1 isn't any faster than an NA8 (and it's definitely significantly faster than an NA6!), magazine tests at the time got around a half second faster 0-60 with NB1s vs the NA8, and having driven both, the midrange torque the NB1 has feels better too. The best way I've heard it put is that the NB is the better car, but the NA is the better Miata as the NA does have more charm appearance wise and weighs a touch less out of the box, but the NB performs better in most areas and is easier to live with.
>>27588881I had the same issue on my ND. The OEM pads and gaskets were defective and had to be replaced.
>>27591053boths sides on the rear*
>>27590476>10hp thanks to VICSFalse>The chassis strengthening also makes NB's rot more False
I'm not afraid to admit it, I wanna fug my NA
>>27592395it's ok because it's a girl car
>>27588881brakes are my guessIf you're not going to drive often don't apply parking brake and put her on chocks while in first gear.Been doing it for years on my summer cars and no problem with rotors seizing.
>>27591085Please provide evidence of your false claims
>>27590760Power wise, this is why I say "in practice". I was at a track day with my 1.8 mk1 (late model with 133bhp), and it was no faster - and also no slower- than a couple of late model Mk2s in front of me. Only thing I can say is that my car is an import with the 4.3 diff, so maybe that gives me a bit of an edge over other late model mk1's, but still. I don't doubt that VICS cars have a marginal advantage in the mid range though, but I just didn't see it play out in the cars ahead of me.
>>27591053>>27592621Thanks guys, I'll see if I can get the rotors grinded down by a lathe to remove the rust damage. They're still plenty thick so it's fine to remove a few millimeters to make them like new, and it's cheaper than getting them replaced completely. And I'll also swap the break pads. And then stop applying the parking brake every time
>>27593363>And then stop applying the parking brake every timethat damage comes from letting the car sit.
>>27593625Yeah but the parking brake seems to amplify the damage even more. I remember sometimes when I didn't drive in a while, the parking brake was actually rusted on and it broke free when I started driving.Anyway I'll make it a habit to just drive to a car wash every 2 weeks, that should be enough to prevent the rust from coming back in the future.
>>27592556cute :3
>>27592556if Miata is a girl then driving one can't be gay.Driving boy cars is gay.
Nd3 reviews are out, seems the new lsd fixed the overly tail happy nature of the car with tc off and for track purposes it may be a more solid option vs a gr86
>>27594685I wonder if you can swap the LSD into an ND2
>>27594775Almost certainly. Watched the Throttle House review last night and they claimed the change was to the shape of the ramp, to reduce the LSD effect on deceleration.
Thinking of buying an ND3. I do get pretty annoyed with the wind noise in my NA at 70+mph. I did watch the Throttle House review and they say that the GT trim has a better padded soft top. Does anyone have experience with how much difference it really makes driving at highway speeds? I thought I was set on getting a club in crystal blue, but if the GT soft top really does make a big difference I might consider that in grey or white. The only ND I driven was a 2020 with BBR package
>>27595075From memory all au models get the two layer soft top, I never had issues on my 1500km drive to Sydney then Canberra but I had my top down almost the whole drive lol
>>27595149Seems that your equivalent trims in the US are club (roadster), grand touring (roadster GT) and club with BBR (roadster GT RS). I'm surprised that your club trims have it.
>>27595165Mazda AU did some based shit afaik the automatics never got LSDs here lel
>>27595075My 2023 soft top gt (top up) gets pretty loud around 120-130 kph. Under that speed it just sounds like a Mazda 3 to me.Top up with the rf sounded kind of similar to soft top, but buffeting is way louder when the top is down compared to soft top with the top down.Best bet for you is just go to a dealer with both soft top and rf then drive them back to back. I was deadset on rf till I drove one.
>>27595353Seems like it's about the same threshold as my NA. I'm not considering the RF, just the soft top club or GT.
>>27595373GT has wet noodle suspension and no LSD in some years
>>27595732In my country gs-p(mid trim) up to gt has Bilstein and LSD standard. I can't speak about us trim as I'm leaf.
Want to get car to keep for long time and work on it my selfshould I get NC3 or ND1? looking in eu for ~17,5k€
>>27596005I’d go the nc3. Best looking of the nc’s and a short production run compared to nd1.
>>27597175It's looks so good but that FAT FUCKING FIAT LOGO RUINS THE WHOLE THING
>>27597175>>27597185Imagine
>>27596005Nc2
Work wearing me the fuck out. My drive to and from home in my miat is pure healing, even though I’m driving the boring routes these days
>>27596005nd2 if you can spring for it. nc's will feel dated for interior. it also depends on what work you want to do on it. maintenance or mods. nc is pretty good for mods as the stock engine and drivetrain can a bit more power easily. sit in and drive them both to see how you fit. i have an nc3 and there were all sorts of annoying ergonomic things i had to change.
>>27574817Steak n Shake interior
>>27596005Nd2
>>27597198Why did this flop so badly?
>>27586915No one? I think i sperged out again and only one guy read my post.>TL;DR: what tires do you like for the ND on 17s?
>>27590217North shoreLand of the long white congestion.
>>27588881>>27588883>>27588886your calipers arnt calipating. get them looked at, clean up the slid bolts, apply correct amount of lube. do not get lube on the tip of the pinswirewheel your rotorsand ffs get that wheel rebalanced, who the fuck uses that many weights?
>>27598075Fix it again Tony. Fiat has no caché in USA so why would anyone get it over a miata which is the genuine article and looks better even?
>>27598759I got one solely for the sound of that glorious 1.4 liter turbo engine. Immediately took it and paid $120 to have the muffler removed. Amazing engine, possibly the only reliable thing FIAT has every produced. The sturdy little things are pretty commonly slapped with a 400 hp big turbo kit for the 500s but I am currently talking to a guy who just got a 300 hp stuffed turbo set up for his 124. I think I will prefer the mid range power band of the stuffed turbo rather than the big turbo powerband shoved up to redline.
>>27596005get an ND1 if you know how to wrenchND2 if you don't
>>27598759>>27598783They do sound great. And it’s>le italian sportscar>but not reallySo best of both worlds. Italian engine? Great. Especially the Abarth version. Japanese wiring harness and chassis? Just what you want.The engine needs a lot of maintenance but it really can last a long long time. I was considering one but only autos were still being sold in my area. And it was too expensive. Generally it seems like they cucked themselves out of the European market with these. The Fiat 124 was underpowered compared to the US version, while the Abarth had poor marketing and was expensive. They should have styled it as an Alfa Romeo and people would have gone NUTS.
>>27598918>Italian anything besides design
>>27598944What about the women?
today getting my 2023 club with BBS package & 6 spd, 1000 miles, im so excited bros, i will love this car ive wanted one forever
>>27599157congrats buddy got 11k kms on my 22. Blessed car and will be buried along side me when I die
>>27599157better not be one of those awful new colors.
>>27600325Reason I haven't bought an ND is the awful palette. The only colour I like was the racing orange, but my dealer couldn't get me one.
>>27598783I've seen one example of a fiat 124 built to big numbers and everyone else gets stuck around 220whp... What are the 500 guys doing to get there that the 124 crowd isn't?
>>27600347Just wrap it bro
Ok you faggots, help me. I currently have a 2006 wrx wagon as my fun car. I'm the original owner. It's got tasteful suspension and handling mods, stock engire. I'm not a go fast carn. But I want a Miata. I have always wanted a Miata.I'm 6'5" and ALL TORSO.So I have looked, and it seems like the NC will fit me best. But it's a tight damn fit. I think I'll need a bucket seat, lowering bracket, and maybe a floor pan drop kit. Man I'd love to get a nice set of coilovers on it and just go go go in local mountains.Do you think it's worth it? I just want a little RWD car that I can drive around corners really fast and break the rear end loose. And then fix it affordably. I don't need a fat hog car. Will I fit or am I just fucked.Picrel is my body type.
>>27600743you'd fit an ND with seat loweringhttps://www.jassperformance.com/shop/MX5-ND-Seat-Lowering-Adapter-Brackets
Yes UPS man, is that my package or am I just happy to see you.
>>27600830what's in the box?
>>27600832Not the Superlocker I wanted but close enough I guess.
>>27584709it's fake and there are hundreds of photos you can look at online
>>27600835Piss in my ass.
>>27600739Can paint so I'd rather paint one.
>>27600907Based paintbro.Is it just me being anally retentive or do even the glossiest of wraps look orange-peely?
>>27600864Import duties RIP.
>>27590760Is it possible to adapt the NA to have this spare wheel setup? I imagine the exhaust is in the way, but is it possible?
>>27601065>is it possible?It would be possible as the NA and NB share the same platform. Big welding job, but I've only seen people replace the recess with a flat floor to show off the diff. Exhaust probably won't be an issue as it runs along right side.
>>27600362They just have more 500s sold, like a fuck ton more. So you have tons of people playing with them. The 500 actually has one of the largest aftermarkets of all modern cars out there. The 124 was only sold for a couple years.
>>27601065You'd have to drop the rear subframe on both an NA and NB (for room to work), cut both trunk floors out, and weld the NB one in the NA and paint to keep your welds from corroding. Not exactly a good babby's first welding job if you're not experienced with welding body panels.
>>27600907oh fuck, is that sunburst? I regret i didn't jump on the one i saw for sale a few years ago
>>27600921No wrap will ever match up to a quality paint job, unless you add clear coat and buff it smooth, which kinda defeats the point of the wrap.
>>27601509Yes, it's a late '91 NA6 Au model. Mine had a few patch repairs, done at different times, which faded to completely different shades.
>>27601142North Carolina? I have been dreaming of the day I can take my car around the Tail of the Dragon. How is it?
>>27602683How's your pulley?
Does Mazda know they would sell more Miatas if the front wasn't so fucking ass ugly? Why does nobody mention it. Looks like shit
>>27603268Wrong
>>27603268The car is so successful you've gotta narrow it down a little.
>>27603260Yellow was released late '91 so It's the first release of the long crank 1.6's. They're called '92's in America. Its fine, I replaced the bolt and woodruff key when I did the timing belt. Probably should do it again soon, due to time elapsed.
>>27600743Have a 6'3" friend who changed from a turbo NA with cut seat foam, to (2012?) STi when his second child was born. Misses his NA. That being said, NC is the roomiest of all Miata's. Do some research about how much headroom you'll gain by those mods, then sit in one and work it out.
>>27599157>>27599590>>27600325>>27600347here is my nd2, club trim with bbs+recaro+bilstein package. i am absolutely over the moon with this thing it is important to me and feels great
>>27604364nice, jelly.
>>27594685>less tail happyREEEEEEEWell that settles it. ND2 will be the one for me
>>27602683beautiful, love that colour
>>27566381Flying Miata delrin? that's what I got
>>27604421https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc-MqlJMof4its mainly with TC off and pushing the car / track work tht the nd2 i a bit scary Dave Coleman said in one of the nd3 videos that they were benchmarking the changes against other cars, I'm guessing GR86 on track
>>27603340>>27603462It looks so bad with the squinty headlights and giant epic grinning grill. Back looks nice , but the front is so bad. It inspires no desire or positive feelings. I can’t imagine walking away from it and looking at it longingly as you do with a car you really love. Please Mazda shills, tell your bosses to update the car for me
Any Mazda bros drive the 3 hatch? Current gen. Is the rear blind spot as bad as people say? Guess I could test drive it myself, figured I'd ask first. Might be leaning towards sedan for my econobox daily driver, but I think the hatch looks amazing.
>>27604816It has a good backup cam who cares
>>27582145based munkee
>>27583181you dumb
>>27604816You aren’t taking anyone to gapplebees so why worry about what’s in your rear view mirror :^)
>>27604708aye
>>27605639I bet I could take that.
>>27605863>bet I could take that.I'm rooting for you
Anyone here going to the UK MX-5 National Rally in June?
>>27606272The idea of talking to people scares me, so no. :'(
I'm new to miatas and wrenching in general but there's one for sale really close by for $8k at this local dealer. It's a 2007 Miata with 138k miles on it. Is that shit or worth checking out? I got more than enough to buy it out right. Might see about looking at it up close this weekend.
>>27606516Get an nc2
>>27606516Reason Anon says get an NC2 is because of the forged engine internals. If you aren't going to push it to the limits NC1 will be fine.
>>27608604NC2 also looks better than NC1
>>27608604buy whatever cheapo NC has a blown engine with a crankshaft viewing window and do the mazda6 2.5 block swap
I'm about to pick up an new old stock 23 nd2, I'm super excited but I'm curious if there is anything that I can put in that helps make the car a little bit safer in an accident with a larger car without getting a cage welded in. I found some info regarding improving the frame bracing and a better roll bar.>Inb4 "hurr durr you got a Miata, you chose this" I know but I figure some of this stuff also improves performance too *<:^).
this is why I got the ND2 now and wrote off the ND3
interestingly miatas have some of the best insurance ratings
>>27609865in my area there's lots of older middle aged guys and retirees who have NCs and NDs
>>27610246Z out-selling the Supra is more of a surprise desu
>>27574704>It's EPAS, you cannot do anything about this.This is retarded. So any other deficiency like power/suspension/brakes you can remedy in the aftermarket. But steering you're just completely at the mercy of the manufacturers tuning despite it being essentially adjusting some sliders? What a crock of shit.People tune ECUs and throttle mapping all the time. Why can't they do the same for EPS?
>>27609812Next Miata will be a total flop, if this shit is not stopped.I have a fully specd ND from the second month of production and the new NDs price is more than double becuse of the electic junk Mazda cramps into the new NDs. No one is asking for fucking Alexa, TPMS, fancy stabilisation and hundreds of sensors.
>>27610575>People tune ECUs and throttle mapping all the time. Why can't they do the same for EPS?You probably *could*, but I don't think anyone is really offering this a service yet, so unless you're capable of diving into the hardware and reverse engineering all those 1's and 0's, you just have to put up with shitty steering.
Is putting a F136 and F1 transmission into an NA that was destined for the junkyard considered saving or damning it?
>>27610575There was a forum post awhile back about someone complaining about steering assist and pulling the fuse but the steering became too heavy probably due to the increased caster angle.
Thread Link: Anyone tried disabling power steering on ND? 4 pages TLDRhttps://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=623259
>>27610867>F136Ferrari V8? Awesome!
>>27610663I agree with you on everything else but TPMS has been federally mandated on every new car since 2007. They can't not include it.
>>27611127I turned my engine off on a down hill once to see what it would be like and I think I'll pass.I hear getting a custom alignment with 6 degrees or more caster fixes everything though.
>>27611828not in the EU, but we have DHS instead
Fuel door on my 2017 MX-5. The rib in on the lock will unlock fine, but gets stuck trying to lock. Took it apart and lubed everything, but same issue. Any advice?Even just the part number to order a full replacement would be helpful. Searching just gives the actual actuator itself, which seems to be okay.
>>27611848Read enough to work out that you have to remove the motor to make it work. That's the big lump on the rack, in the pic.
>>276111384.5l out of a F458 with a modified torque tube and transaxle from a quattroporte to mimic the ppf.Still trying to decide if I keep the rear facing 458 manifold or use the forward facing lower profile California intake
>>27612541Is it jumping a teeth? Or gets stuck in the end position?
>>27613053Using Quattroporte RWD parts seems like the best way. I like the Maserati intake too. Good luck sir.
I have this knob. I'm not gonna go downstairs in the rain to take a picture.
>>27613160I don't think it's jumping teeth. Retracting is completely fine. It's when it goes to lock that everything jams and nothing happens.
>>27598075Probably mainly due to the infamous "multiair" engine's quirks.These cars are often second cars that get driven infrequently.Do this to the Fiata's engine and the car will refuse to start, because multiair replaces one of the camshafts with a hydraulic system that depressurises if left for many weeks. There is a way to bleed the air from it, but Fiat's own guidance involves trying to start it over and over (with breaks to not fry the starter motor) until it catches.Also, in the UK at least, I heard they stopped selling it in 2019 because somehow this fancy engine still didn't meet emissions regulations.
>>27598075I have a theory that the Fiat's body is the actual ND design, and the Mazda's body is what they wanted to make the NC look like before they realised they were using RX8 parts - hence the ND having Mazda's previous smiley company face despite releasing in 2015.I swear I saw the original iteration of what would become the ND design as a model in a line up with other NC designs that weren't used in a video somewhere.
>>27610978Surely thats because they're trying to haul a motor around as well as the steering.
https://youtu.be/pdZaArV4wEY?si=C5amqPzVlGFOHyOoBenchracers byfo
Do miatas make a good daily? I might buy my grandpas 1990 MX-5, it is mint, garaged it’s whole life with only 83 thousand miles.
>>27615123wind noise sucks at 70+ mph and I'd never leave it anywhere I don't trust longer than an hour. also make sure that it's put back together properly when the crank pulley comes off since it's a short nose crank. other than those two things, go for it since you're never going to find a better one.
>>27615123I'm currently treating mine like a daily since I'm in between DDs. It's fine for commuting, adds a nice twist on what would typically be a dissociation simulator. If I had to drive in traffic or parked anywhere other than my office I would be a little more panicked about buying a new daily.
>>27615123I daily my NB just fine. The NB massaged the NA to be a bit more usable (namely in the layout of the trunk, changing from hydraulic to solid lifters, more power, and a cheaper and more reliable cam/crank position sensing system) but they're mostly the same car otherwise. It gets me to work and the store just fine and in relative comfort, and fits my work bag and two weeks' worth of groceries in the trunk. If anything the main drawback of dailying it isn't really its own fault- it's so small compared to everything else now you have to drive it very defensively the way you would a motorcycle, assuming nobody else can see you because they probably don't. Just the other day I was almost merged into by a retard in a crossover realizing they were going to miss their exit and jumping into it at the last second without making sure it was clear first, right where I was. Their belt line was as tall as my entire (stock ride height) miata is, so with me being neck and neck with them at the moment they started to change lanes, they literally could not see me at all.
>>27615123Don't have experience with older ones, but I daily my nd. I use a hatchback when I need to haul equipment.
>>27615620Based deep crystal blue with soft top and white seats. That's the spec I'd get if I got an ND2
>>27613846Check the counterpart on the flap if it's damaged or not.There is a H-bridge in the controller that flips the polarity to turn the DC motor left or right, but that works. That leaves the mechanism as a culprit. The parts number is B09556890.
Page 10?!
>>27610268Supra is basically not being produced anymore, especially the MT that everyone wants. Toyota dealers have long waiting lists for the MT but for some reason they aren't getting manufactured. It's not like Magna Steyr is that busy, either>>27608900There's nothing you can really do. A rollbar will cause head injuries if you smack your unprotected head into it, even if you put foam padding on it. When you drive something like a Miata you have to just accept the risk of getting btfo by a trugg. The car is decently safe, way more than my deathtrap NB, that's for sure
>>27618303Don't be mad. Kamen Rider to the rescue
