is there anything that can be done to turn this EV crash back around?
How about a competent rail network in the US instead of shitty modern cars period?
>>27599345>>>/n/
>>27599316God I love German science mommy so much, bros
>>27599382He looks like a man.
>>27599316China just hit 50% NEV sales for the first time this April...Norway is at over 90%...the worldwide sales at over 10%...what crack is OP smoking?
>>27599497Gas cars = Tube TVsHybrids = 3D TVsEVs = 4k TVs
>>27599773Chemical reaction > ion shuffle
>>275997733D TVs are obsolete.
>>27599316Until we come up with a technology better than Ice, ice is here to stay. And no ev is trash. Batteries suck ass.
>>27599773LOL
>>27599942There are dozens of technologies better than the traditional automotive internal combustion piston engine.The problem for them has been that gasoline is so cheap thanks to subsidies none of them have been able to catch on, and the efficiency or mechanical simplicity advantages of other technology hasn't been able to overcome the industries bias towards technology that does not require new R&D investments.That is until the nickel manganese cobalt lithium ion battery made electric cars more viable, because electric motors are definitively better than any other solution currently available.The search now is for batteries that suck slightly less. The recent development of sodium ion batteries that can match NMC energy density for a small fraction of the cost, support more charge cycles, and function like a capacitor able to charge in seconds with incredible power density, could spell the doom of internal combustion.At least as a way to physically drive the wheels of a vehicle.
>>27599967gasoline is taxed, not subsidized.
>>27599345There is a very competent rail network, it's the lifeblood of the supply chain you midwit faggot. You think resources and consumer goods are just moved around on transport trucks?Designing a rail system for moving resources is incredibly advanced and a sign of a high functioning society. Designing a rail system purely for moving PEOPLE around is a sign of a highly authoritarian and regressive society that doesn't value individuality and is probably one step away from communism.Fuck you and your public transit.
>>27599987Gasoline is heavily subsidized, then lightly taxed, to pay for the roads, but the money brought in by those taxes only covers 1/5 of expenditure on roads, and doesn't even begin to cover the money spent on the massive global fossil fuel infrastructure.
>>27599773That's your whole arguement? A television is an unnecessary thing. EVs won't work, the system will not work with them. They are just a hobby car.
>>27599998there are zero gasoline subsidies that support any aspect of the automotive industry and you cannot and will not prove me wrong.
>>27599992Forcing everyone to drive all the time, including people who have no business behind the wheel of a vehicle is no different.I would like the Freedom, to go see the Cubs without having to drive a car through Chicago traffic or risk it on the famously terrible Illinois roads.
>>27600017>>>/n/
>>27600013>there are zero gasoline subsidies that support any aspect of the automotive industryExcept for the fact that artificially cheap gas allows car makers to keep selling old engines and avoid investing in R&D on more efficient solutions.Why spend money to retool to make 100mpg cars, or hydrogen cars, when gasoline is so cheap?
>>27600017>Forcing everyone to drive all the timeYes creating a society where there are expectations is a good thing. Being an adult is a good thing. Manbaby faggots ride the bus and the train. Public transit is for physically disabled people in wheelchairs with gubgub snail brains and noodle legs and for old sad widows whose legs can't reach the gas pedal. If you live in Chicago and like baseball you deserve to be shot sitting in traffic.
>>27600017nothing is stopping you from moving to the city now, retard, Chicago has a huge rail system and plenty of bussesi hate you retarded liberals so much it kills me
>>27599773ev = 3d tv's, every vapid cunt had to have one and ultimately was a dumb gimmick.
>>27599992>jews fear trains because they have genetic ptsd from being transported to auchswitz and dachau like cattle.
Yeah a lot of the eco youtubers changed their minds. EV's are no longer the future to them. Now the ideal future is nobody owning cars and just riding bikes and riding public transport.In the future car enthusiasts will look at the EV craze with nostalgia
>>27600056>just move to the city!No thank you. Most city dwellers shouldn't own cars they are not actually qualified to operate, and cities should have ways to get there that don't require driving a valuable vehicle on their terrible roads filled with unqualified drivers.
>>27600090he knows that, i just mindbroke him by repeatedly posting this image at him so now he tries to get ahead of it by posting his retarded attempt at a counterpoint lolpoor guy he must be constantly thinking every time he posts that i'm in his threads ready to reply to him with this graph lmao
>>27600090evs are more like plasmas. better performance but a fad in the end
>>27600096jews love trains because they can control when and where the goyim can go
>>27600113Oh I get it now, you just want to control what other people do because you know better.Typical leftist bullshit
>>27600133they can't even manage their own lives and yet they think they're qualified to manage everyone else's.
>>27600133What's the point of cars if the experience driving them is soul crushing bumper to bumper traffic for hours every day?Or of nice cars if every time you take one out on the crowded and crumbling roads you are at risk of them being damaged by other drivers or the poor maintenance because they aren't properly funded?I just want the roads to be paid for, and for the standards to get a license to be higher so people are qualified and motivated to safely operate vehicles.
>>27600155skill issue, i have none of those problems when driving my cars. sounds like you're dealing with issues brought on by socialist progressive policies and you think the solution is more socialist progressive policies because you're a bumbling dumb fucking idiot which is exactly why you have the shitty life you do.
>>27600165What is 'socialist' or 'progressive' about wanting to raise the standards for operating a motor vehicle?What, are you afraid that you wouldn't be able to pass the test or afford the license fees?
>>27600155>What's the point of cars if the experience driving them is soul crushing bumper to bumper traffic for hours every day?Have you ever tried riding the bus/lite rail/Metro? >Or of nice cars if every time you take one out on the crowded and crumbling roads you are at risk of them being damaged by other drivers or the poor maintenance because they aren't properly funded?Im an excellent driver so that's minimal risk, but I have a shitbox, so its only a mild annoyance when someone bumps it.>I just want the roads to be paid for, and for the standards to get a license to be higher so people are qualified and motivated to safely operate vehicles.We should just have higher standards for immigration (and send back 50 million that shouldn't have been let in.) Also putting thieves/violent "people" back in jail and letting drug addicts die of overdoses instead of reviving them to commit more crimes
>>27600090Those are Hybrids.
>>27599316Make them better than ICE vehicles. Have they tried that? Because every single EV is worse in just about every way to their ICE vehicle counterparts. There is next to no reason to buy an electric car over a normal one.>>27599497The thing that sucks about the government push for EVs is that we've never had any affordable performance hybrids.>>27599967>>27599998There are no gasoline subsidies, you /n/ schizo.
>>27600185I have, and it is currently totally inadequate. Not a real alternative to driving until you have already driven to Chicago.There is no denying that the US destroyed the infrastructure that built the Midwest, and has not kept up with the rest of the world.Or that trying to move tens of thousands of people to the same location is simply not a good use for cars.> send back 50 million that shouldn't have been let inNow who is the one being Unamerican? The constitution guarantees political freedom, and the USA is a nation of immigrants. It does not guarantee the right to operate a motor vehicle, or require that everyone drive for everything all the time.People were saying the same crap about Germans, Irish, Poles, etc not that long ago.
>>27600213>There are no gasoline subsidiesThen explain how it costs much less than everything else for the same energy, and the fees it enjoys are also much lower.I know you don't like to admit it because it goes against your whole world view, but you are the beneficiary of taxpayer subsidies.I'm personally all for removing all of those subsidies and going to a free market, at least where a free market actually makes sense.If everyone understood the true cost of what they enjoy, the world would be a better place.
>>27600254What specifically are these subsidies? Just name one. Refer to something in the USG budget, or federal register. I want to be convinced, just give me one subsidy for gasoline.
>>27600273he can't and won't. every time he says this he's prodded for hours to name a single one and he has never been able to.
>>27599345based>>27599992unbased, moving cattle is as important as moving freight
>>27600254>If everyone understood the true cost of what they enjoy, the world would be a better place.based and tru
>>27600273hint: it's the expensive one
>>27600234>People were saying the same crap about Germans, Irish, Poles, etc not that long ago.Those people were right. Culturally it destroyed our nation.
>>27599967>support more charge cyclesBut that's the problem. You can still go buy a 30 year old ICE vehicle and it still runs.
>>27599769Shup foo
>>27600234Having an open boarder for criminals and welfare leaches to exploit isnt a good solution. The immigrants of 100 years ago worked hard or died of poverty. Sometimes they did both.
>>27600327LOL
>>27599316what the FUCK is that!?
>>27600327Im not buying it. The military is up to all kinds of things, many of which are disrupting the oil market. For example, euro/usa weapons have been blowing up natural gas pipelines and refineries, and of course tanks, airplanes, armored vehicles etc all use up massive amounts of oil. Same goes for the war in iraq, etc. If anything our military is keeping prices higher, cause otherwise iran and Russia could be selling oil products on the global market.
>>27599773>Gas cars = smart phone>Hybrids = smart watch>EVs = smart gogglesAka only hype following retards will actually get one.
>>27599773CRTs are extremely heavy, expensive to transport, use rare metals that complicate their manufacturing, and will zap you to death if you do something wrong, sure fucking sound like EV fucking shits to me.
>>27599967>The recent development of ______ batteries that...this sentence is at least 40 or 60 years old now, and yet the world has been using and modifying the same two battery technologies this whole time. but i'm sure your new batteries will be the breakthrough we are waiting for!
>pretend to make a video about EVs>shove your tits all over the camera insteadWhy are women like this
>>27599316Is that neil breen in drag?
>>27600028this is also a problem completely isolated to the US and (other) third world countrieseverywhere else, cars are running with 40-50MPG minimum
just ban gas and diesel
>>27599987Gasoline isn't taxed nearly as much as I think it should be, which means its subsidized.
>>27600273
It's hilarious how I predicted years ago that the anti EV crowd would get louder and louder as gas cars start losing more and more market share. We're not at 10% BEV market share and the anti EV crowd is bitching more than ever.I wonder what their Jan 6 moment will be. When market share hits 50%?
>>27601241>two more weeks!lol
>>27599316Wait 10 years for battery tech to mature.
>>27601249This! Two more weeks until the decline of gas car sales reverses course.
>>27599345Trains are not going to get you from your house to the big box store and back.
>>27601283>what is a delivery truck
>>27601071If I only cared about the subject, id let a man explain it to me. my dad watches her sometimes.
>>27601280oh no ev bros!
>>27601284>that'll be $40 delivery + environmental tip
I think the next wave of EVs with 500 mile ranges and 15 minute charging will seal the deal for most people. But when those are coming, and when poorfags like us can afford them, might be another 10 years.
>>27601288Lmao did the CRT = gas car analogy mind break you?
Yeah, we could get our electric base load from nuclear in stead of gas... It's a bummer that we aren't doing that, but thankfully I love ICE cars.
>>27601293I had a fridge, dishwasher, and oven delivered each seperately for free. Also, lol at paying thousands of dollars per year to save a few $40 charges. As in, you spend thousands of dollars more per year for the larger vehicle in tires and gas and maintanence, and the price of it, compared to a small car owner. Someone who just uses public transit saves probably ten thousand per year over owning a car for the big box deliveries.
>>27601299lmao update your LLM. >>27600118
>>27601305you can save even more money by living in a small box 6 feet under the ground fyi.
>>27601336My city (a state capitol) only has a bus system, but there are very few busses and my nearest station is a good 30 min walk. Public transport isn't a thing here and I'm fine with that.
>>27601353Im a block away from the transit center and I sometimes walk over there just for excercise. Probably used a bus 3 or 4 times in the past 12 years. Busses usually look empty. Just $500,000 vehicles with $ 90k/ year drivers getting 3 MPG to haul bums around occasionally.
>>27601336I don't drive cars because of the nigger problem. Get hit by one uninsured motorist, they run off, enjoy paying out the ass in insurance. Rather take public transit.
>>27601517LOL
>>27601517I drive a shitbox so if they drive off, I have another dent in my car and insurance doesn't go up
>>27599992>regressive society that doesn't value individuality and is probably one step away from communism.Thomas the Tank Engine must give you PTSD
>>27599345gas yourself /n/igger
>>27599316not much, the third world and developing countries are going to use ICE's as they are more readily available and less expensive upfront considering the associated infrastructure costs Worth mentioning the increasing viability of regenerative biofuels and approach towards scalable carbon neutrality, hybrids are most likely the future with thier longer range and mixed infrastructure dependency being adaptable for the future development shifts in nearly all worldwide>t. studied biotech in college before shifting to sociology w/ an emphasis on geopolitics>also, I'm unemployable
>>27602047>third world and developing countries are going to use ICE's as they are more readily available and less expensive upfront considering the associated infrastructure costOther way around, they're buying up chink electric scooters, motorbikes, and rickshaws in droves, often with batteries that can be swapped by hand in a couple minutesElectricity is a hell of a lot cheaper than gas and it much easier to generate yourself now days than before
>>27603102>Other way around,lolno
>>27603109Are you retarded or just shilling for oil kikes?
>>27600113>Demand public transit>Just move to the city where public transit is good>NoOh, now we get it. It's just YOU who wants to dictate what people should do because you want to inconvenience us
>>27603218>Demand public transit>Just move to the city where public transit is good>Get creeped out by bums on/near public transit>Get assaulted>Get a big SUV to feel safe> Move out of city>Get exit taxed> Become violent homeless person
>>27603124they're going to use what they've always used, leftover scraps from the developed world. since EV batteries and motors are piling up in recycling yards they're going to be the ones to repurpose them since that's what will be cheap and available.
>>27599316An actually cheap car. $16-18k with no dealer markups and 50kWh like the Velite 6 would change a lot of peoples minds.
>>27599316Make better vehicles that are supposed to do what they're promoted as doing
>>27600107>Now the ideal future is nobody owning cars and just riding bikes and riding public transport.that was always the main idea
>>27604479>2019>EV sales skyrocket since thenCrazy how you see more and more of these fear mongering articles as more and more people are buying EVs. Surely it isn't just a certain group of people who feel their lively hood is being threatened
>>27605237??
>>27601284you use a deliver truck to do your groceries?
>>27599992>bawwww having options is LITERALLY communism
>>27599345
>>27605307You don't have legs and arms?
