What went wrong?
>>27599978
They even made a trueno edition for you weebs, what more do you want?
>>27599978Subaru
What went wrong? Why did they stop making it?
>>27600270Too good. Gubmint Motors wants you to buy a truck instead.
>>27599990I want the stupid safety regulations to go away so we can get cool looking cars again.
>>27599990The retro lines do not fit this modern car AT ALL. The colored hood is disgusting.
>>27599985Is she ready to do OF now?
>>27599990The 3 cylinder engine on that chassis.
Nothing went wrong, they are selling well despite how butthurt it makes people here. They are super common, I see them almost every day.
>>27599978>>27603093it was a fail4 instead of inlinechad
>>27603093my gt86 blew up on the motorway, fuck subaru
>give weebs a car>They go into debt>Their engine break with lack of oil>They crash it with lack of skill
>>27599978underneath theyre the same car. this is just the tranny equivalent of the car world. left is man, right is trooned out.YWNBASC
>>27600635I HATE PEDESTRIAN SAFETYmy car looking good is more important than some fucks kneecaps
>>27600640I saw both a white and red trueno edition in person. I wasn't sold on the look when it was announced. In person they look great.
>>27603661Pretty based of Toyota to go "fuck dem kids"
>>27603093winner winner chicken dinner
AE86 came with the same engines they put in normal corollas (as well as performance versions of those engines). GR86 comes with an unreliable special snowflake engine.Also, the styling is shit. No clear lines. Not an actually usable car when it comes to passenger and cargo space. No popup headlights.
>>27604156>No popup headlights.burn status: impossible to recover.
>>27600308I hate capitalism.
>>27603661bro just drop 100k on your boxer engine brohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRr2pc9ctgE
>>2759999050 more horsepower.
>>27603960Holy shit I never knew Japan got its own version, that looks so much better. Amerifats lost again.
>>27603785>my car looking good is more important than some fucks kneecapsDamn right. If they're not smart enough to look both ways before they cross the street, fuck 'em.
>>27599978The 90's economy crisis in Japan.This made Toyota so cucked they straight up sold the rights for 2zz-ge RWD setups to Lotus. Toyota didn't even allow themselves to use the 2zz in the MR2 Spyder.And so the Toyota Matrix, the car that should have been a fully authentic AE86 successor, was a (fun) FWD-only shitbox.The Matrix was almost rebooted into a proper (supercharged) sports hatch with AWD but then the recession stopped that from happening. And then someone Toyota thought it was a great idea to give that legacy to a SUBARU.Toyota had some external circumstances that made things complicated but I will never understand how far they went to cuck themselves out of their potential this badly.
>>27605046>And then someone Toyota thought it was a great idea to give that legacy to a SUBARU.its because toyota are lazy japs, and subaru already had compact platform built for a longitudinal engine and transmission in the form of the impreza, so all they had to do was make the awd fuck off and mess with the engine a bit to make it slightly less subaru. unless you would rather toyota have used a tacoma platform, engine and transmission for their sports coupe cus thats all they had in terms of rwd 4 cyls with manual transmissions
>>27605046>The Matrix was almost rebooted into a proper (supercharged) sports hatch with AWD but then the recession stopped that from happening.So the curse almost hit Toyota again where covid almost killed GR Yaris and GR Corolla?
>>27605116Lazy and cucked. >>27605120Third time's the charm, it would seem.
Slower than 1.5T civic
>>27599978Nothing went wrong>>27600270It was just a chink copy of the Mustang, no point of having one of these when you could have an actual Mustang
>>27599978In order to be a proper successor, the modern 86 should've been a more practical everyday car with an I4 and perhaps a liftback design. It's a shame this sort of car (lightweight RWD coupe that retains a great deal of practicality) died. Since the AE86 (and many other similar cars like the Manta) was pretty good as a rally car, I suppose the GR Yaris is actually a closer successor, being a sporty compact car with rally cred, and it becomes quite practical (as much as a tiny car can be) with the rear seats folded down.>>27605046FWD disqualifies the Matrix.
should have put a i4 in it but that probably wouldn't have meet safety standards
>>27603654and then you bought a lime green automatic camaro. And then the rest is herstory :^)
>>27599978Soul vs Soulless
>>27605934Imagine if we could have had a 2ZZ-GE RWD Corolla liftback in the mid 00s.
>>27605934> FWD disqualifies the Matrix.I know. But there’s a timeline out there where it’s RWD or AWD, and better VVTL-I engines. The Matrix was PERFECT for the legacy of the AE86. As it is in our timeline, the XRS is a fun ride. If it was RWD, it would been this century’s version of the AE86. Grocery getter shitbox by day, fun shitbox to race around in at night. Such a combination of lots of utility and fun was perfect to continue that vision. But we couldn’t get that in this timeline. And it’s disappointing.
>>27606258God if only. As I said, there’s another timeline out there.
>>27605934Such cars also came with a ton of engine options. Imagine if the proper AE86 successor came with everything from a frugal I3 or some placeholder engine that you're going to swap out, to a decently powerful V6 or even V8.
Kikes
>>27599978>We put lé boxer in it for lower centre of gravity! Remember it's not about power, its about handling>McDonald's strutsWhy the fuck they didn't use an even more inferior motor to free up enough room to create an even better suspension system is beyond me. I would gladly take less power and a 1000 less rpms for an optimised powerband
>>27606417they used a subaru boxer because toyota didnt have any small 4 cyls with a longitudinal setup other than truck motors. they used macphearson because its a subaru chassis. why do people expect actual work from japs?
>>27606417the motor is fine, the powerband feels good in the new one, the handling is very sharp. Gimping the engine even more to give it a wishbone in the front is just crazy, just buy a miata then. The rear is multi-link and that's where it matters. 99% of posters commenting on this car have never even driven it. The memes about the engine are goofy too, subaru engines haven't been bad in 20 years. The people who whine about them are mostly vapers who over boost them, the NA motors can run for a quarter million miles like most modern japanese engines. The car is supposed to be a poor man's porsche boxter
>>27606403Like you!
>>27606572New car has torque pretty much above 2.5k. Not the prettiest sounding engine, but it certainly gets the job done. I will say the engine loves to rev out to redline though.>Source: gr86 owner
>>27607097Someone should honestly try a 2zz swap on one of these.
>>27607099It'll go from 210-230whp to 160-170whp on a good day, or the same output as a FA20
>>27607099Too much RnD and custom fabbing for not a lot of gain. If oiling is an concern, there's better engine options for getting the same power.Ultimately though, the car is pretty strung out from the factory. Just upgrade the FA24 and call it a day, or throw some K series engine in it if you're worried about "mUh RtV" or oil starvation. Keep in mind, there's a bigger oil pan is currently being tested by varis, looking very promising.
>>27599990An inline 4.
>>276070992zz is dogshit in anything other than an mr-s that does nothing but conefag. mr-s needs a 3sgte and 300whp.
>>27599978isn't the gr yaris a better match?
>>27607174Why is it dogshit?
