i'll buy a volvo soon
https://tiermaker.com/create/car-brands--tier-list-41835make your own anons
>>27601473no u won't
>>27601479why not lmaoi've had a glk, a b200 and i'm about to get delivered a x4 this month
>>27601473Please do not be too harsh, I like American and British jobs. Mind you, they would not be first in a reliability race.
>>27601473>british in A-tier>italians in A-tieris this a joke list? the only one in A-tier that belongs is Toyota
>>27601513what do you have against german cars
>>27601508>toyota in f tierngmi
>>27601513Every single tier thread starts with a bait image
>>27601513post your own then >>27601525 or stfu
>>27601524Yeah, because they are all buttfuck ugly, in my opinion. Wholly opinion based. (Also, the one Toyota I owned was in the shop more than it was in my driveway. It was an 08 Camry bought new at a discount in 09).
>>27601473
>>27601531>Also, the one Toyota I owned was in the shop more than it was in my driveway. It was an 08 Camry bought new at a discount in 09no wayyou probably got extremely unlucky or something, i've only heard good things about their reliability
>>27601532>tesla in shit tierYeah I’m thinkin’ cope
>>27601532hyundai higher than volkswagen, really?
>>27601473You put Toyota over Lexus, but Acura over Honda?
>>27601479He could buy an old, beat up one.
>>27601534The thing leaked oil, and overheated regularly. I got rid of it hardly two years later for an Outback, which was a good car, but I sold it because I was worried about the CVT (JATCO, if my memory serves me right) in 2017. That is why Subaru is in a higher tier than Toyota.
>>27601552i don't like hondas that muchalthough the new ones look greatwhere i live a ton of people have cr-vs
>>27601555Also, I will explain the rest of the Jap makes and their rankings:Mazda: Reliable and aesthetically pleasing. Fun to drive (except for the crossovers, but that is the nature of crossovers, anyway).Subaru: Pretty good, but kind of bland these days.Mitsubishi: Okay, but a little less reliable to Subaru.Acura: Great in the 80s and into the 90s, then fell off a cliff, still okay, I guess.Suzuki: The bikes are their only saving grace. (Though a Kizahi upgraded to compete with the WRX and Evo of the time might have been a good idea)Honda: I have one right now, I do not like it. Smells of exhaust after idling for a while, so I drive everywhere with the doors open.Infiniti: Ugly, crossover only make now.Lexus: Gaudy make and style.Nissan: Used to be great (pre-CVT), now their reputation speaks for themself. Trucks used to be okay, but I have been hearing bad things about the Frontier now.Scion: Downmarket Toyota, no thank you.
>>27601614>InfinitiThey have the Q50 with a great twin turbo V6 motor.
>>27601632I thought they killed it. Good to know. Does not sound to bad, I think I would re-evaluate them to be a D. Mostly because of the people who drive older Qs and Gs and the kind of crowd that they are. (I also would like more cars that are not crossovers for a company with no true legacy).
I'm not a fan of hyper luxury brands, or brands who's entire gimmick is selling overpriced vehicles for the sake of selling overpriced vehicles (this is the only reason Porsche is B tier and not A tier, their lineup is overpriced compared to a lot of Chevy's really good competition with Camaro/Corvette). Chevy is very much carried by two amazing cars, and some pretty cool shitboxes (bolt/volt) and their utility vehicles.Honda/Acura being B/A tier respectively because of the brilliant S-AWD for Acura, Performance Manufacturing Center, and the Type R civic/NSX being a GOAT rival of that nameplate when other jap brands stagnate like Nissan/Toyota. can't go wrong with Toyota, but they don't make anything noteworthy (supra doesn't count) either except i guess the Yaris GR. B tier for having a lot of solid offerings. Ford's Mustang, F150/Ranger Raptor and revival of the small truck market with the maverick, and transit vans push them just high enough for B tier, carried by the fact that they've done some amazing shit with the mustang, turning it into a full fledged super car in the GT500 trim.Cadillac makes some of the single greatest handling platforms in existence whilst appealing to enthusiast with manual offerings, and making them competitive with the auto-only competition from BMW. They will drop to D-tier once they go EV-only unless they try to compete with Tesla. Holden being a boomer relic of offering affordable RWD V8 sedans to nearly the very end also puts them at B tier. only reason they aren't A tier is because the V8 Charger exist (or did until very recently).C tier shit is good enough in some aspects with a few unique standout models.D tier brands either fell from grace (like Saleen, Mclaren, and and Lotus) or are just painfully mediocre.F tier i cannot find a single redeeming car that isn't a rebadge (mercury) or is downright shitty (smart car)
>>27601644what do you mean with "crossover", brands working together?
>>27601508>chevy>S tier
>>27601649Shelby is probably the single most legendary guy in the auto world. there are few bad cars with his name on them, and a lot of really fucking GOATs. on top of him being involved in too many other things that didn't have his brand on it, but still have his direct influence like the Viper.Ferrari i believe still hasn't fallen from Grace, and is one of the OG super car makers. unlike Mclaren, i can overlook Ferrari's quality issues because their expertise is beyond GOAT beyond just motorsports.
>>27601649>volvo>painfully mediocrengmi
>>27601658They've fallen from grace. they're owned by the chinese now and went from being Swedish toyota to being this hipster wannabe luxury brand.
>>27601653By Crossover I mean what a lot of people call an SUV. Excuse me for using a term that is somewhat irrelevant now, but when I hear SUV, I think Bronco, Excursion, Blazer, Suburban, etc. Not RAV4 or in Infiniti's case QX50.
>>27601473This tier list is utter dogshit you are clearly too low IQ to drive a Volvo
>>27601649why is tesla in a tier
>>27601625HELL YEAH BROTHER FINALLY THE BOWTIE BRIGADE SHOWS UP. HAIL TO THE GOD MACHINE (GM)
Are you going to buy one or lease one?
>>27601691whether you like them or not, they shook the entire industry and are the only manufacturers to scare germans in the luxury car segment. that is completely unheard of for a start-up car manufacturer let alone one from the 21st century.their cars are also fast for what they are and not just in a straight line.
All the car enthusiasts here putting Lexus in A tier baffle me, really.I’ve been driving these cars since early 2010s, different models regularly, and they’re absolutely nothing special when it comes to driving dynamics, they’re just comfortable and well insulated but that’s all about them because the interior feel like Toyota wrapped in leather with some tech gizmo here and there, they also now lowered the quality of their cars and share a lot of interior parts with lesser Toyota.Even funnier is that a 80.000€ Lexus NX has a semi digital dashboard cluster which is less advanced than the one in a Toyota Yaris cross or Corolla which cost literally half of its price, it really makes me mad.
>>27601752Forgot to attach the picture.Dealership gave my this while I was waiting for my car to be serviced, along with a Nespresso coffee.
>>27601752>>27601755With that in mind, id move Lexus from B to C in my original listing. only because the primary reason people buy them is reliability, and you can get that from Toyota, along with some leather.
These takes are so bad I might stop coming here for car banter.
>>27601774lets see your list, nigger.
>>27601529>>27601778pathetic OP trying to stoke his shit thread
>>27601508>Bongmericanhistorically and demonstrably kino
Yup. Looks about right
cope and seethe if you must
>>27601473go home, im right
>>27601625Bullshit, no true Pontiac or Olds fan would ever put Chevrolet- and thus corporate GM- in the same tier, and especially not a Saturn fan.
>>27601649>F tier i cannot find a single redeeming car that isn't a rebadge (mercury)marauder
>>27601473>putting Mitsubishi at F and Jeep at C
>>27601473>Jaguar, Land Rover in A tierNice b8 m8
>>27602053>german 3 above alfa, lotus, and tvr
>>27602137>alfaBecame a joke lately>lotusNice chink car>tvrDying and forgettable.
>>27602053>korean garbage in b tierNot even reading any further.
>They hated him because he spoke the truth
>>27601994why do you guys hate land rovers? there is no way hyundais are better.
>>27602053>toyota in the same tier as mitsubishingmi
study this chart
>>27602366>MazdaMUH WENKEL ENGINE OMG DOOD LITERALLY NO RED LINE!!!!
>>27602366I don’t know about nissan on the same level as mercedes and bmw on the same level as volvo
>>27602376>buy Mazda>don't get jewed by toyota or honda markups>no CVT in any of cars, as far as I know>good reliability and power train>not an american or korean shitbox that is going to fall apart in a few years>even their basic ass econobox is reasonably sportyThey are good cars. The only con is they tend to be small for whatever vehicle class.
>>27601654Yes, but not for what they are doing now. Historically, the Chevrolet pickups were better than those made by Ford. I think they still make good pickups to this day.Additionally their sporty vehicles have always been good, even today they are quite respectable.Personal Luxury and Full Size from Chevrolet have also been pretty darned good.Compacts sucked, but then again, that is the nature of American compacts in general (aside from Pontiac, the G5 and G6 were serviceable, not that great, but still, there was a lot worse on the roads, then).>>27601793Love Cobras, simple as. Took the best of British and American auto design and merged them together.
>>27601473As a Jag enthusiast and owner of an 04' XKR, you must be smoking crack if you're placing Jag that far up the tier list. Present day, sadly, the company is moribund. About the only car they've made in recent years that I would buy is the F-type, and they are going all EV which kills whatever soul was left in the company.Past Jaguar had some gorgeous cars and were great luxury cars. From the modern era, Ford ownership brought about best Jags in terms of quality and reliability but gimped them by trying to keep them off of Aston's heels. The 50s and 60s were their golden era in terms of design and racing success. They usually make one of the best cars in their segments when released, then drag on the model too long until it becomes overshadowed by competitors, their marketing department sucks balls, and their management just has no idea what the brand is about or how to run the company. It's a shame. They have lots of potential squandered by bad management, and bad reputation due to past mistakes. As a company they should be F tier, but taken individually, models like the XJ, XK, XJ220, F-type, E-type, XJ-C are A tier.
>>27602393My buddy bought a 2016 CX-5 non-turbo as a daily and it's a damn good car. It is nice to drive too- very nice steering and suspension setup for that kind of car.
>>27602806>audi and volvo in d tierwhy
sports car manufacturer tier list (specialty/supercar brands not included) (brands that don't make real sports cars not included either)
>>27602856Remove: Tesla, Ford, Acura, Dodge, Hyundai, Honda, Scion, Mercedes,Those do not make sports cars, among their sportiest models t they make: EVs, pony cars, 1 supercar, Muscle cars (used to make a sports car), shitboxes, economy sport sedan, and downmarket toyota shitboxes and is not even around anymore, grand tourers and entry level supercars, respectively.Add: Jaguar (F-type), Mazda (Miata), and a few others I don't care to list.
>>27603058>miata>sports carOpinion thrown in the trash, I'm not even reading he rest of your gay ass post
>>27602366>toyota in the same tier as porsche and ferraringmi
>poorfags putting BMW below S tier
this is the only true automotive tier list. everything else is wrong>>27601508you got decently close but you ranked honda way too high
>>27601473>Alfa in A>Fiat in FTheyre the same cars anon
>>27601473>S TierWhat I drive>C Tier Mostly everything else>F TierThe remaining brands that were clearly grifts / VC cash grabs
>>27601795Only anon in this thread with taste.
>>27604274>Theyre the same cars anonare you implying that alfa romeo is fiat's luxury line?
>>27604180>this is the only true automotive tier listi understand you're joking, but in case you're not then i have to inform you that any manichaean opinion is generally wrong. the tiers are there for a reason
>>27603893>implying bmws are the only expensive car brand
>>27601732why is volkswagen in c tier
>>27601703i've been entertaining the idea of leasing one, because dealing with a car getting older nowadays is not worth it. in the only case i'd consider buying and maintaining a car would be with old cars, such as pic related
>>27601508>S tier Holdenfriends don't let friends buy holden
>>27604642When they brought the Holdens stateside (albeit, they were rebadged), they were fine. Most of their more recent models were rebadged Opels or Chevrolets in the first place. The Opels are decent, but the Chevrolet Barina (Second Gen Sonic) is horrible. Sonics are generally pretty bad.
>>27601508why are volvo, audi and volkswagen so low?
>>27604697In America, Volkswagens are shit. That said VW Europe =/= VW U.S. Additionally, all their cars look like ugly globalistic blobs.Audi is just a VW with a fancy interior, unless you look at some models of RS. They are also the worst German manufacture in terms of reliability. Volvo is there because I just do not like them. Also, Volvo drivers are notably poor. That said, some of the old sedans and wagons prior to the 1980s to have a sort of charm to them, albeit, it is the same charm that attracts me to Lada and DAF sedans. The 1980s and prior is what saved them from being F-tier.
Here's mine.I don't know about what muricans drive so I can't rate them at all.I hate lambos and the 0-100 attention whores brands.Also don't like VW, ironically any other brand of VAG are better than those overpiced cars.Idc it's my autist list
>>27605079Shit I realized I should had put Saab on S because they were cool as fuck
>>27602832Audi is made by VAG which across brands have the worst customer experience in Oz. Mostly Audi are VW with extra fake chrome. Extensively drove an RS5 a couple years ago, was fast and sounded good, but it felt soul-less. Volvo is Chinese tier.
>>27605079>Murica tier>Briggs Automotive Company>W Motors>Holden>McLaren>Ariel>Scion
>>27603269Define 'sports car'.
>>27605189Define 'Masahiro Sakurai'.
call me autistic but its my honest opinionim also not just judging on current offerings but how cool/interesting their lineup may have been in the last
>>27601659as a volvo fanboy i hate to say it but that is true
>>27601508>ford in s tierwhy?
>>27601659>Swedish ToyotaThat's an insult. Toyota is unsafe and low rent, Volvo was the Swedish Mercedes if anything. Anyone who ever sat on a 960 knows this. 7 years ago a really nice S90 Royal went for sale here, sadly I couldn't afford it at the time. Gorgeous unit.
>>27604697>>27608311It's an obviously contrarian list
Order doesn't matter in tier, too much work
Which Car Brand would give me the image of a man who is in favor of Israel, is pro-Jews, is in favor of Ukraine, is in favor of the LGBT+ community, supports black lives matter, is anti-Russia, anti-Palestine , and hates trump
>>27608364any bicycle brand will do
>>27608364Smart with a BML wrap and a COEXIST sticker on the back with a few cheeky bumper stickers
>>27608376Reasons why Smart is the car brand that would give me the image I'm looking for?And which smart model is the most ideal for the image I'm looking for?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_(marque)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_(marque)#Models
>>27601508this was probably made with 1 car in mind for each manufacturer, this is kinda retarded anon
>>27602053Normie tier
>>27601473Have fun with your boxy chinesemobile.
I love Mazda but....
>>27601795based fellow homo saabiens
>>27601473In case you couldn't tell, I'm a Mustang fanboy.
>>27608311Mustang, F-Series, Ranger, Panther bodies. All have a decent reputation, a certain legacy and a good curb appeal. E-series are the best of the last generation of real American work vans.>>27608454No, I usually think of a handful, kind of hard to take every single car into account, so I think of the most common vehicles I see every day and my general thoughts and experiences with them.Best car I had was a 2.4 L Solstice, which is why I regard Pontiac so highly. Looking for a Pontiac when I get my money together, have to focus on work and life first.Currently looking at swapping out my daily, since I think it is about to eat another headgasket (I am not made of money and I think the car has had it with only about 50k on the clock). I am probably going to get an Astra or an Aura. A neighbor has an Aura and he loves it, so I think an Astra/Aura would be a good runaround car for me, unless somebody has experience that dictates otherwise. I think I can get $2500 for the car, since I do not have a title for it and it is probably a lemon.Excuse the tangent, but I have reasons for other makes, go ahead and ask if you want to know my rationale.
>>27602366Good list anon.Audi and lamborghini should be around A tier but otherwise it's the best/most correct list in the thread, with only brands that are relevant worldwide.
>>27601508>I like American and British jobs>jaguar and land rover near the bottom
>>27604274giulia and stelvio share nothing important with Fiat
>>27613483You can like something and know it's not good
