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What is required to do activities like: rucking, climbing and swimming? I want to do physical activites /out/ but I usually dont do more than jogging
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>>2720269
try a bike
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>>2720269
>Rucking
Get a good backpack with a proper frame (not a MOLLE) and then just walk. Most of rucking is based on a heavy squat and being able to run long distance. It's pretty easy to practice and backpacking is the perfect medium to do so.
>Climbing
Start in a rock climbing gym, most memberships come with shoe and harness rentals included. Learn to belay top rope then evolve to lead climbing and then go with people to outdoor sport climb and then you evolve to traditional climbing and multipitch. Mountaineering is a combo of this and snow climbing which is fairly easy, do a guided climb with a class on a Cascade volcano and you will have everything you need to hit 98% of all the mountains in the states. Most of mountaineering is just cardio and rucking desu. Climbing skill comes with practice and strengthing the fingers, arms, core, and toes through use. Takes a couple years but climbing gyms are pretty ubiquitous and a great place to meet /out/ friends. It's expensive to start but really cheap once you get all the gear (My trad rack + shoes + rope + harness) was maybe 1.5k total over a few years as I got better. Ice climbing is a whole different animal and you should learn traditional rock climbing before you tackle ice.
>Swimming
If you don't know how to swim as an adult, getting swim lessons is totally reasonable since tons of people drown because they don't know and get themselves in water they can't stand up in. But really, unless you are racing, you won't be doing swimming super often /out/ because it is slow and you can't really bring gear. Scuba diving doesn't resemble swimming a ton and if you are doing water sports you should wear a life jacket.
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>>2720271
sure
>>2720573
>Get a good backpack with a proper frame (not a MOLLE)
Would just a regular backpack for school and work be fine then?
>climbing gym
I kinda wanted to just to some big rock and climb but I guess safety comes first
>you won't be doing swimming super often /out/ because it is slow and you can't really bring gear
makes sense but I was originally thinking of lakes and beaches in europe
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>>2721033
>backpack
Regular backpacks can be used but the internal frame makes a huge difference on your back and for how much you can carry. To start, don't buy a bag but once you but more miles and more weight that's when you start looking. I have used an Osprey 65L for the past 8 years and it is falling apart but I love it. My fastest competitive ruck (Norwegian foot march, 2:44) was with a Teton Talus2700 which is a good summer multiday pack. You sound like you are in europe so go to decathlon and take a look at the bags.
>climbing
you can def do big rock by yourself if it is class 3 class 4 but rock climbing in a gym helps get the scaries out so you don't freeze up midway up a rock. downclimbing safely is way harder than climbing up and climbing is more versatile and fun with a buddy. I personally dislike bouldering and I sort of like rock climbing but I do both to train for mountaineering since they are all the same family.
>swimming
makes sense. also look up riptides because those will kill you if you don't know how to deal with them.

Where are you in Europe? I'm in the states but might have some good starter recommendations.
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>>2722926
>Where are you in Europe
Stockholm, Sweden
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Rucking is idiotic. Deliberately destroy your joints for a mediocre exercise. Its nuts.
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>>2720269
>rucking
a backpack, some weight, and your limbs
>climbing
your limbs
>swimming
your limbs
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>>2724172
>exercise is idiodic
okay
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>>2724220
Exercise is fine, but you have to be smart about it to avoid ruining your body.
Lifting weights isn't stupid, lifting weights like someone doing crossfit is stupid.
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>>2724306
I don't know how to exercise properly, therefore nobody else does either
okay
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>>2724369
>fucked up my greentext
Well that's what I get for pre-coffee posting
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>>2724178
Kek. I understand the sentiment but I just want to be sure that Im not putting myself at unnecessary risk
>>2724369
Im not sure that other poster is genuine about their belief, if they are then they overestimate how destructive walking with weight is
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>>2720269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZnW7A_rdoY&t=1820s
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I need a good motivator to stay in shape and rock climbing recently piqued my interest. Seems like an activity with great external goals where fitness itself isn't the only aim of working out.

Unfortunately there's not much in the way of indoor climbing walls in my town, we do have a bouldering club though with quite a well equipped gym, if I were to take up the hobby though I'd ideally like to take up traditional climbing.

My question is this, how easy is it to transition from Bouldering to Trad Climing? Would I be better served looking further afield for a gym with proper top rope-ing facilities from the beginning or could I get started with bouldering and transition further down the line?
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>>2725755
The ability to climb is an entirely different skillset and takes a lot longer to learn than basic lead belay technique, and how to use gear. Might as well start bouldering if the gym is convenient and affordable. Many people at my bouldering gym almost exclusively sport climb outdoors. The hardest part of transferring from a bouldering gym -> any form of roped climbing is finding people who are willing to teach you/go with you, but, depending on your location, you could lurk facebook groups to see if they do meetups.
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>>2725846
There IS a climbing club based out of the (relatively) nearby University (It's not a University society I checked), so I could get in touch with them I suppose.

Seems I should actually get back into workable shape and get to grips with the basics of climbing at the Bouldering gym before I go wasting their time with something I don't know if I'm really going to like yet.

Thanks for the insight, I wasn't sure if there was much fundamentally different about Bouldering and Trad Climbing that would set me back on one if I got familiar with the other, sounds like that shouldn't be an issue.
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>>2725398
Full body 2x/week + rucking and cardio is a bit more than I wanted right now but it did have some bits that I will keep in mind
>>2725755
>>2725846
>>2725959
This whole interaction made me confused. Bouldering is when you grab those different colored bits to climb, like in the olympics, what is "trad climbing"
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>>2726322
Bouldering is generally done without any safety lines or pitons as you don't climb high enough to be in danger of injury and in the case of gyms they have highly cushioned landing matts.

Trad climbing involves climbing a distance, knocking in your safety line, climbing further, attaching another and making your way up a cliff side, like a traditional climber would've back in the day
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>>2720269
Physical fitness
Time
Money
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If you're already a regular jogger you're not far off from being able to hike and pack fairly easily. Find a nearby hiking trail/reserve and start swapping out your jogs for hikes. Some of the most capable packers I know are fat fucks. The guy who taught me most of what I know about being /out/ was a short guy around 5'5 that easily weighed over 200lbs but he could just go for fucking hours without stopping. Easily scaled trees, did mile swims for fun, and never seemed winded. Just keep practicing and grinding and you'll be fine. The fact that you already have an exercise habit gives you a big advantage.
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>>2726575
ok, thanks for explaining
>>2728301
Kek. I was thinking of specific equipment or sort advice that I should keep mind but yeah that is true
>>2728308
I will try where I use to jog before winter if its too short then I will find a hiking trail instead, thank you
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>>2728308
>Some of the most capable packers I know are fat fucks
>around 5'5 that easily weighed over 200lbs
>and never seemed winded

That doesn't even seem possible. How is some 200+ lb. slob able to have that kind of cardio for swimming and climbing?
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>>2728775
He must have been hiding a lot of muscle under a layer of flab

I mean, is it that odd. If you're working yourself hard enough presumably your cardio fitness will be able to offset a super high calorie diet right? Even if you're still big
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>>2720269
If you are talking about the physical ability, there isn't really anything set in terms of 'you can do this, so you do this' beyond the obvious one (that you are ambulatory). Outside that the majority of these things are doable for you and it is just the same as anything else, Time x Intensity. Can always adjust the dial down, and for any exercise it's better to start with lower intensity first and build up.

>>2721033
The issue with a regular backpack is primarily is that they aren't designed to be carry a ton of weight in a way that distributes it correctly to the body. Rucking is generally done with a back pack that has a proper waist belt or with chest rigs that hold the weight close to the body. Personally I'd rather just hike and maybe pick harder hikes. Or if you have a camping pack just pack up camping gear and day hike with it as a form of training.

Climbing has a process, training, and techniques that are designed to keep you Not Dead from some kind of traumatic brain injury. It's a lot of fun though. A local climbing gym is a great place to learn that stuff, meet people, and develop your abilities. Bouldering seems initially more accessible because there are no ropes. But as a result bouldering problems can usually be a lot harder, focusing a lot on skills and strength. Top rope climbing is faster to get into especially at an indoor gym. Great thing to try out.

2nd the biking idea. Even just a cheap road bike or cheap mountain bike depending on what you want to do. Endurance, strength, plus you get to go places. Easy to incorporate into other stuff just to increase daily activity level. If there are good bike groups in your area for the stuff you want to do, it can also be an great social activity. But it's also 100% doable completely on your own if you want that too.



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