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previous >>2739621
drone edition from silo guy again bc no one else made one
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my cat on expired film sitting by my even MORE cantaloupe I started... 300 in ground and now 140 more getting ready to transplant..
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can I do 45% compost, 45% peat moss, and 10% perlite for potting mix? should I increase the peat moss to make up for using so little perlite?
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>>2744717
Why do fruit trees die right after planting?
I planted it in late april. I brought it home from the local nursery, it had like 30 pieces of fruit just starting to grow. I removed them all so it could focus its energy on rooting. Watered it every day, and after a week the leaves slowly turned black.
By late may it was done, did the scratch test, its all brown, and all the branches just snapped. It was dead in less than a month.

Fertile illinois soil, over the last 5 years ive planted 6 other fruit trees (including 2 pears) which have thrived in the lot.
It seemed super healthy when I planted it.
I just dont understand what went wrong.
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There must have been a manufacturing film on the plastic I used for the greenhouse because all the velcro pieces I glued to it peeled off. One before that I fixed and the remaining 3 today when it was windy. The PVC clamps I was using to hold the vent closed were chewing up the plastic so I replaced both with rare earth magnets salvaged from old hard drives. I glued magnets for the vent and stuffed a magnet behind each of the velcro pieces stapled into the wood.

Right now I'm using 2 magnets to stick to each other, but I can replace the non-fixed magnets with steel bar or small plates.
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>>2744765
Could be the planting depth, or just the microclimate of the spot you chose had very poor drainage and thus airflow to the roots.
If the soil is rich and holds water well, it's best to plant the crown slightly above grade and make a mound.
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>>2744734
You should use coconut coir instead of peat moss because of sustainability issues with harvesting. If I were you I'd do 30% garden soil, 30% compost% 30% coir, and 10% perlite because it will have better structure. I like to use biochar or crushed lump charcoal in place of perlite or vermiculite, but all three are pretty similar.
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>>2744717
how good of fertalizer is swamp mud
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>>2744765
>>Watered it every day
>Flood plant with water removing all oxygen from soil
>Be surprised it dies
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>>2744765
Textbook case of overwatering, (you) type of problem
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>>2744734
Perlite is honestly meh unless you're using some really shitty clay
But compost and peat (or coconut like anon said, can recommend) is good. Maybe add some basalt dust. That's the mix I buy
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>>2744765
>Why do fruit trees die right after planting?
You have a pest problem, it's called a human, it loves to come around and drown your plants to death, for no discernible reason
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dead thread
but i see another tomato starting to grow on my plant
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Been able to harvest 3 good sized cukes and about a dozen jalapenos/poblanos. The garden is looking good bros WAGMI
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>>2743993
They are 3 plants. I believe some compost liquid hit the one plant too hard, acidic maybe. Its darkening now.
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Anyone grow herbs for teas? Ive got a ginger plant going right now. Gingers obviously pretty easy to get at the store but i liked growing it. Havent gotten to try my own fresh from the ground just yet.

Anyone have their own suggestions? I make a lot of teas but would like to try stuff.
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>>2745098
I grow different mints and Lavender for tea
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Worked as a berry picker on the family farm today and picked 65 pints of raspberries, just wanted all of you to know.
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>>2745098
I like tea from dried mulberry leaves, worth trying if you have a mulberry.
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>>2745098
How long until it sprouted? I heard it takes months, is it true?
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Heh, already getting powdery mildew on the cucumbers. Any home remedies? I read milk just now.
Not that worried about it since they always power right through it but better be safe than sorry.
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>>2745249
Don't waste your time, simply plant seeds for another succession of cucumbers, they'll replace current ones and you'll get cucumbers all the same.
I always do 2-3 successions and usually get cucumbers consistently from late June to late September depending on weather.
My second set of cucumbers is already sprouting, will plant 3rd in early July probably.
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>>2745255
Not the good climate for that.
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>>2745259
What kind of frozen hell hole do you live in?
If you plant right now you'll be harvesting them in mid August, even in cold climates that should be at least two weeks before it gets too cold.
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My very first dahlia ever
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>>2745249
Milk works better as a preventative. Mix one part milk into ten parts water and spray it over the leaves. It will help prevent mold and sucking insects like aphids. You can use old, expired milk. Some people even re fermenting the milk beforehand.
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>>2745276
How often?
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>>2745066
My cukes have just started to fatten out
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>>2745278
For sucking insects use it as often as you see them. The milk leaves a residue that blocks up their mouthparts and kills them. For mold I'm not completely sure, but I think just a couple treatments during the most humid parts of your growing season should do it. You can also try thinning the leaves near the vine to improve airflow. Next year make four groups: control, milk, trim, milk+trim and see what works best for you.
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>>2745299
Nah, pretty sure it is just airflow. These ones are tighter than the ones on the other side that don't have any mildew on it so far.
Or maybe it's from last year.
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>>2745321
Then just trim off the moldy leaves to improve the airflow and reduce the amount of spores near the health leaves.
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>>2745323
Yeah good advice, I see they were mostly in the more shaded out bottom. I trimed up my tomatoes too, the bottom leaves were getting yellow anyway.
And found more suckers to prune. They've been rooting nicely in water so far.
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>>2745328
Also noticed some purple on my tomatoes. Not sure if the variety or the potassium deficiency some people claim on the internet.
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What's a good book about the thread subject (You) would recommend?
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>>2745330
A bit of weird greyness on the peas too, from what I read it's also powdery mildew, but they seem happy, even put out a bunch new flowers near those affected areas.
Cucs also doing good besides the mildew, I think I found around 10 starting to grow.
Tomatoes put out a bunch more flowers too.
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>>2745331
Soil health is good to understand if you want to try homesteading. I recommend "Building Soil for Better Crops" by Fred Magdoff and Harold Van Es
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>>2745331
this is a college textbook. easy to find pdf.
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>>2745234
for ginger? took like maybe week or so. now i dont know what its doing down there if its grown enough for me to harvest now. i think that takes longer.
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>>2745395
Did you plant a strorebought one? And I saw on a video it's when the leaves go yellow, like taters.
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Finished starting first wine of this year a moment ago, gooseberry and a bit of red currant, feels good man.
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>>2745409
My grandparents always used to make wine with their own cherries and currants, good luck man
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>>2745408
i bought a piece of ginger at the store and used it for a bit then planted the rest in the pot. i havent harvested it but the leaves were yellow pretty quickly. i think thats more heat than ready imo, im in texas. but i may try pulling it up soon. i think it should keep growing anyway, no need to stop it now.
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>>2745420
They cover them in growth inhibitors to stop them from growing during transport and on shelf, you need to soak it for at least a few hours to get rid of it before putting it into soil.
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>>2745409
i mentioned it in another hgm thread, but i've successfully made a prickly pear wine like twice. very sharp flavour, kinda bites even after aging it for six months.
8/10, would recommend attempting.
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>>2745423
i didnt soak it i rinsed it off though. no clue whats down there though. ill dig it up in another month and post the results here.
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Not a crop but is there any genuine reason not to farm these for protein outside of /pol/ shitposting?
>inb4 chickens/quail/rabbits
Not allowed
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>>2745457
i feed mealworms to my two little wrens. i occasionally toss some mealworm crumbs outside where i want birds to shit on my soil. wrens barely chirp when theyre house trained.

mealworms will stink up your place if youre not careful, or your abode is tiny.
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>>2745457
>is there any genuine reason
they're icky
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>>2745457
Because fish and reptiles exist.
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>I hereby sentence you to hang until red.
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>>2745186
qrd?
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>>2745139
If my family had a raspberry farm I would eat myself to death in a day
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>>2745409
Perhaps you could try making mead with them as well
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>>2745457
We have big, medium, and small meat-animals walking around but we should eat worm instead? They are too far below us to be included in a proper and dignified HUMAN diet
Today i will eat another majestic creature! Not worms.
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>>2745457
Nice try Claus
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>>2745643
They're the most valuable berry on the farm so you'd actually just get yourself banned from eating any fruit in a day.
But yeah generally when I'm picking I eat so many my tongue gets all raw and I start choking on seeds. I eat any of the flawed ones that shouldn't go to market and by the end of the day you just don't want to eat anymore, start to feel sick from eating so many even.
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>>2745457
Because as far as meat goes chickens have been developed since ww2 to such a high degree that it would take decades for worms to catch up in terms of economics or even emissions-wise.
Big chicken farms are automated now and do their job with as little food and human interaction as possible, bug farms aren't at that point yet and won't be for decades. You need specialized robots to do pretty much all of it to make it even close to the efficiency of chickens and even then you'll be feeding them food fit for humans just like any other livestock.

On a small-scale? No lmao, the worst ones to farm small-scale. Any other farm animal is better at turning produce into meat in a small scale. You only see the benefit of these things on large-scale automated and 9000% optimized farms.
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>>2745591
Nothing to rundown, get some clean mulberry leaves and put them into water after drying, hell you don't even need to dry if you are lazy or you can buy them pre dried.
Taste isn't outstanding but I like it, goes well in a mix with dried fruits imo.
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>>2745457
Just get a cow and eat CHEESE
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Action report lol
Got rid of even more of these mildewy cucumber leaves, probably even better for the plants, the big strong ones are at the top
Pruning kickstarted those currant branches, should've done it earlier
Strawberries :p Two more on the vine
Tomatoes growing, buncha setting fruit. Those newest ones look weirdly fuzzy, I hope I didn't accidentally crosspolinate them with tomatillos lol
Brussels took well
Peas also getting mildewy but they look near end of life anyway, I might hold onto my leftover brussel and plant it there after they die
Peppers and cayenne going well
Nice to see those pollinators, saw a big ass bumblebee or something a few days ago that spooked me the hell out
I think my biggest surprise of the year are those tomatillos. Not the right climate for them at all and they've been the healthiest and most producing so far

Did a rough headcount out of curiosity too
>tomatoes: one double fruit, 6 normal ones, around 32 flowers
>cucumbers box one (the mildewy one): 6 or 7 fruit, around 50 flowers
>cucumbers bucket: 3 fruit, ~25 fruits (i'm still not sure where my chinese cucumbers went, they all look prickly, did i accidentally gave all the chinese seedlings away ((forgot to label)) or also crosspolinated because of the toothbrush???)
>peas: 4 pods, 2 flowers
>peppers: 2 fruits, one almost ready to get red, 1 fell off, around 33 buds
>cayenne: 8 fruits, around 16 buds
>strawberries: 11 fruits
>tomatillo: 40 pods or flowers, not sure which stage they were at

Pretty good for a balcony
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>>2745711
>>cucumbers bucket: 3 fruit, ~25 fruits
25 flowers*
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vegas terraformer guy. grass survived recent heat wave just fine. got some healthy bermuda grass, clover, and some slightly-struggling fescue. fescue is getting stronger each season. eventually, ill remove the bermuda and allow fescue to flourish with clover.
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Give it to me for real lads. Is my pecan plant done for? ive already tried to remove several leaves and it hasnt grown much since sprouting.
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I think I'm gonna buy the Costco greenhouse. It's on sale for $700 at my store, seems like an absolute steal

https://www.costco.com/yardistry-7.8’-x-6.7%27-greenhouse.product.100784646.html
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Can anyone talk me out of one idea I had
There is a type of tree, Mauritia Flexuosa, it produces thousands of fruits per year and drops them all on the ground and some of their saplings die in a river nearby, I want to pick these saplings from one rivulet and transplant them nearby some other pond and rivulet on another side where none of them exist.
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>>2745787
Pic related.
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>>2745787
Based ecoterrorism
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It's in my farm tho.
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>>2745794
Meant for >>2745792
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>>2745787
>>2745789
why would i talk you out of a good idea?
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Please help slugs/lady bugs?/other are eating my Pepper and Bean leafs how do I stop them without deadly herbicides
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>>2745577
lol
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>>2745789
>*heavy, steady breathing*
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>>2745833
might be flea beettle. not sure what to do about it but you can probably google that and get some ideas while you wait for others to comment.
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>>2745815
>>2745848
Yeah I want to take the saplings from that tree and plant surrounding this area:
1) To protect the water spring
2) Provide shade
3) Provide food
4) Prevent the area from dirtying up again with weeds and whatnot
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I was fishing from the other side but that was earlier this year during rainy season, the entire place had huge weeds and one side of the lake was covered in it.
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So my idea was, I go and pick up the Mauritia Flexuosa on the rivulet a couple clicks from here and plant them all around this area.
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So I sit here and chill while doing some fishing in the shade in a couple of years.
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From the other side after I cleaned it up of all the weeds.
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It is fenced so the cattle doesn't enter the woods, nor get near the water and shit on it and so forth, they have a concrete drinking fountain with water on the pasture.
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>>2745896
go for it. riparian protection is important.
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>>2745925
Hopefully it works.
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>>2745833
earwigs, AKA WIGGERS

spinosad bug pesticide, organic. genocide them
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my prickly pear had one flower bloom this week. it was opened up for a grand total of two days. now it is closed up and probably making fruit. desert flowers do not last long, as a survival instinct.
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>>2746060
The prickly pears here get visited by humming birds daily, they even completely ignore the Russelia equisetiformis, which I have several of, just to stay on the cactus flower.
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Am I being followed bruh
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>>2746092
What is a joss rose?
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>>2745745
I believe they're called trees. Why are you trying to bonsai it?
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>>2746123
im not. i just live in an apartment so trying to keep it in a pot for now.
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I wish I could move to us and grow Zaza for a living.
I'd be willing to even just cut it for 28 dollars / hour

I hate my job I hate my office I hate Europe I love USA I love zaza and stoners culture
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Heavy cucumber prune seems to have worked okay
Only three mildewy leaves today near those same spots. Doubt it'll keep it contained forever but it's better than it was.
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>>2744717
So this year and the subsequent years I'm planning to do a landrace, but all I find about it other than the one guy in Oregon who stayed it is Marijuana growers. Has anyone else here tied it in their garden and how did it work
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Agave and yucca are now attracting wrens. The birds bounce around my cactus feature looking for bugs. Moths instinctively flutter around any green cactus. I don't have any flowers currently and moths just come to check it out.
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Peppers finally growing after all the heat, silly things can't handle any water when they're young. From seeds start of march.
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>>2746289
Tomatoes are 2 weeks younger.
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>>2745098
I got stevia chamomile lavender and mint going for tea right now sup bro? Try chamomile it’s delicate but fun. And nothing beats a cup of coffee but a nice cup of home brewed tea hits the spot. Add some honey in that shit.
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>>2746293
How olds the weed?
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Probably mid march like the tomatoes, piss feed. Damn thing would be 3' taller if I didn't cut it. All for compost, if no one steals it. They stole seeds last year lol.
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I know this is mostly for crops, but does anyone know how/where you tell how much potted flowers will spread when you plant them? I've grown vegetables for years but flowers are an enigma.
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This year container garlic is a massive disappointment for me, tiny heads with few bulbs.
The worst part is I don't even know what I did wrong, I did everything pretty much the same as last year yet got much smaller heads.
The only thing I can think of is soil I used was somehow bad but it looks fine.
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>>2746392
Maybe too hot? So it all went into foliage?
But the guys at Epic Gardening tested soil bags and some of them were so tragic the seedlings didn't do anything in months, so maybe it could be that.
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welp, swat raided a neighbor last night. the suvs were staking out the property for two days. noticed them a couple days ago, but they were empty and just parked until last night.

birds did not appreciate the raid occuring at like 7pm while they were eating. i was having a ciggy in my backyard, hearing commands shouted over megaphones, two shotgun warning shots, a breach charge, and a finally, one flash bang. four explosions in total. didnt see them, just heard everything while i was trying to keep my backyard birds calm while they were flying around seeing whats happenin'.

today, i gotta re-friend the fuckin birds after the cops cleared out a couple bad eggs.
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>>2746322
>chamomile
got that going yeah and peppermint. my mom has a ton of chamomile. i never knew that fresh chamomile smells like apples.
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i pissed on lovage and it died. Ok happy midsummers eve
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>>2746362
>ow/where you tell how much potted flowers will spread when you plant them?
are you talking about max size? or reproduction spread? max size will be on the seed pack and reproduction depends on if bulbs or how it disperses its seeds.
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My prickly pear cuttings that i placed on the ground to propagate have started looking ridiculous. Will post proper photograph later. The new growths on two of them are nearly the size of the original cactus pads.

rather silly lookin'
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>>2746349
Can’t trust coons around weed man.
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Why are my tomato plants curling over like this? The top branches are turning into little bird's nests.
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>>2746524
i am sure they are hiding something in there i have tried to look but they snatch it away in time but keep looking brother, mole men will not stay hidden for much longer
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>>2746524
Ain't that nutrient defficiency?
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>>2746526
Maybe a micronutrient? I'm pretty sure they get enough nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium. Or maybe they're getting too much.

The lower leaves have started to get these bright spots.
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>>2746526
not necessarily. Leaf curling is a pretty generalized response to any kind of pressure, be it environmental, nutritional, or pathological
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Do not remember where I found this cactus, also don't know the name.
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Found this one near Pantanal in a dirt road
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Same one from Pantanal, I had it potted in a really small clay pot on my apartment in the city until I brought it here.
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Don't remember where I got this one either, but it was near a road somewhere, I stopped and cut a piece and put it in my trunk and carried it home.
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A prickly pear planted with some palm tree in the middle, I tried to take a picture of the humming bird that is sitting on the flowers but it's very small, doesn't show up in the pics.
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Palm tree squeezed here, it gives some small yellow edible coconuts, if you break it in the seed there is also an amount of nut as well, taste the same as grated coconut.
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Caryocar brasiliense, it's a savannah tree, if you open up and cook it with rice, tastes good, you can't chew it too strong tho because there are thorns in the middle if you break the small layer on the round yellow thingies.
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Took off another three cuc leaves but it seems mostly contained.
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>>2746544
browse through "opuntia" and you'll find it. yours appears to be very stalky and kinda tall for a cactus, along with noticeably long needles.
>>2746545
thats a basic bitch cereus. likely, organ pipe, but you can inspect closer than i can.
>>2746547
now this is worth posting. that is an exotic one. it's some variety of a peruvian cactus. Cereus peruvianus monstrose

just understand, this thread is slow and not a race lol. pick and choose which ones to post. the peruvian one is neat.
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Theobroma grandiflorum, struggling a bit here because it's some degrees above what is used to.
Had 4 now there are only 3 left.
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>>2746555
Yeah I peruse through the thread every day, sometimes it's kinda slow but sometimes the thread I was posting in is long gone.
This is a Hymenaea courbaril, also a savannah tree, gives a fruit that has a tough bark, you can crack and eat the thing in the middle that looks like a sausage but tastes like flour and once you bite through it a bit it turns into some paste with the consistency of peanut butter.
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Three cashew trees, I don't know what type yet since I have not seen them bear fruit, could be of the yellow or red variety.
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A giant gourd I planted to make some bird nests, I counted 30 giant gourds so far, some are hidden in the grass.
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>>2746541
The weird thing is that the leaves themselves aren't curling, the branches are.

I tried Googling it and all I could find was the leaves themselves curling.
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>>2746558
These become this, macaws like them and some other birds too, most the stuff I planted is macaw or parrot food, I want to attract them so I can look at them.
They fly over my house every day I want them to stop.
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>>2746555
I found that one you said it's common, it's an Cereus hildmannianus, called "Andes Organ Pipe cactus", I recognize the flower, it's the same one here.
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>>2746552
Looks like this when it grows.
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Also, people get really confused when they hear that "cashews" are toxic, what they mean by that is the cashew nut, the rough part of the fruit that you can use as a seed for a new cashew plant should not be consumed raw, the pulp that is outside is harmless that people use to make juices.
I see people discussing it as if the entirety of the plant was venomous, lmao.
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>>2746558
the peru cereus actually might be worth it for you to farm. i'm fairly serious. propagate as many cuttings as you can, allow the fruits to fully mature, dry out the fruits, collect the seeds, and just watch the money pour in. especially for, ill assume, a south american. niche exotic stuff like that is perfect to sell online, as you will have very few competitors. even better if you post pictures of the mother plant for proof and to help customers feel better about buying.

i say this as a guy who occasionally raises some cactus pups to trade among friends and neighbors for various things, like specific mineral composition rocks or agaves or whatever i dont wanna grow. you have potential to actually make a few bucks and live out the life tolkien wrote about. just not in england.
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>>2746590
I checked the prices on the plant that I was talking about putting on the corner of that lake ( Mauritia Flexuosa ), they sell for a fairly expensive price even within the country I live in.
It's just that like with any other produce, it takes quite a long time until you can actually start making a profit, I grow beef, s()ybeans and corn currently, so the stuff with the plants it's just because I enjoy it.
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>>2746596
correct and all, but bad perspective. it's way better to be a big fish in a small pond than a big fish in an ocean. im sure everyone in your local area is aware of that mauritia youre on about, but really, whats the market for that stuff? ill tell ya: marginal at best.

gardeners everywhere have accent cacti because theyre exotic. they pay for it. the market for accent cactus is huge, even moreso compared to your mauritia. tryin to help ya out, but man, it's hard.
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>>2746598
>im sure everyone in your local area is aware of that mauritia youre on about
Not really, but they already have the infrastructure and their own websites where they trade the saplings, at least some places I checked, some already sell the palm tree already developed for some crazy price as well.
Others sell the saplings in bulk.
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>>2746598
Accent cacti?
You mean those in small cups?
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>>2746602
i'm kinda a professional-ish hippie. tell ya what, im just gonna tell ya what i do.
>i got a few healthy cactus specimens, picked them out for their uniqueness and ability to grow well in my area
>they fruit
>i collect the fruit in a ups shipping box, let them dry out
>break up the dried fruit, collect seeds
>prices vary, but amazon sellers tend to sell my cactus seeds anywhere around five to ten bucks for fifty seeds, and one of them is sold in smaller packets, like five seeds for three or four bucks. my special cactus produces maybe like 20 fruits each season, two season a year, each fruit has like ten or thirty seeds
i dont really sell, i trade around and just mix excess into my backyard soil as mulch. if i needed to sell, all i would do is dedicate two season to propagating my entire property with accent cacti.

>>2746606
i'm using "accent" in the artistic sense. cactus are an accent piece for the most part. in general, normal people have a couple cactus, they dont cover their entire property in it. normal people.
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>>2745726
>remove the bermuda

kek
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>>2746667
Hey, a man can dream.
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>>2744765
>I planted it in late april.
Plant trees in September or later, til snow. They should be in the ground just in time to lose leaves, or be dormant already.
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Got five more Caryocar brasiliense seedlings from a friend, man, when they are in season lots of people trespass on your property to try and get these, you see people selling them every where, on packages at highways and so forth, they are fairly expensive and people love them, they either cook them by itself or mix with rice.
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>>2746771
They sell each of these for 7 U$D on the internet, a package with just a few fruits sells for over 10.
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>>2746771
you the anon who posted the other brazilian data palm tree thing? i didnt know how many odd fruits brazil had. id like to try them someday.
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>>2746775
Mauritia flexuosa, not much of a date tho, the peel on the fruit looks like a snakeskin, people make an oil out of it that people use on their skin, says it helps with aging or whatever.
Mangaba and cupuaçu are fine.
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Anyone have any experience with tea plants or selective breeding? I'm going nuts trying to find a caffeine plant that's hardy at zone 5 so I might just knuckle down and make it my life's mission to just breed one myself, problem is If only have a like 10 by 20 space to do this in. Is it worth trying?
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>>2746776
weird looking but cool to see still.
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>>2746792
im a latin mass catholic. that may make me alternative these days but i wouldnt say i am alternative.
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>>2746792
I'm an atheist with aversion to everything spiritual, gardening is just my hobby.
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>>2746786
I'll swap clothes and go in the corner of the woods here in the farm to take pictures of the ones here, it's a pretty place, although the water stream is really low now since it's not rainy season, kinda far so it might take a while.
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How do you stay sane battling one recurring pest after another? Im considering giving up gardening altogether.
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>>2746779
I'm growing New Jersey Tea. Not caffeinated, but historically was a tea substitute. Has a similar flavor. Ilex vomitoria is native to North America and has caffeine. Native region extends to like north Georgia, though.

The actual tea plant is hardy to zone 6, which means you could probably create a micro-climate in your yard that would be suitable without needing to go through that whole process.
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>>2746804
Keep your plants diverse, some I can see are way more resistant to things.
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>>2746804
>Plant a lot of different things both perennial and annual
>A few things fail - not a big deal, you have a lot more

>Plant a few things, bonus points if they are all from the same plant family
>A few things fail - season ruined

>>2746806
>The actual tea plant is hardy to zone 6
Huh, I could grow tea here, always assumed it was some sort of tropical plant
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I've been having such a huge problem with earwigs, and nobody online seems to have ever encountered them at the scale im seeing them. I'm doing oil traps and diatomaceous earth but they have stopped giving a shit. I have lost over 100 kale starts to them.

My only lead is that my field seems to just be moist for weeks on end without my intervention, so I've just stopped watering, hoping they'll leave. Anyone got any advice? I do no-till, but I think tilling might be a way to just kill them while they're underground.
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>>2746810
I had very similar problem and I found a simple solution to earwigs: don't grow leafy greens, plant more peppers, tomatoes, garlics, watermelons, squash, etc instead
Yeah it sucks not being able to grown them but the work you need to put in just to keep pests away is not worth it when you can plant something else that is almost pest free.
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>>2746799
take your time. weird seeing some of these tropical plants. they look so colorful and odd sometimes.
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>>2744827
>>2744827
Potentially pretty great, but you should do a pH test on it before using it for anything and everything. Its soil nutrient conposition also depends on the plants that grow in them as this article states.
https://nhpbs.org/natureworks/nwep7i.htm#:~:text=Swamps%20vary%20in%20size%20and,trees%20that%20grow%20in%20them.
I’d look into the soil composition of the local wetlands you’d be sourcing the soil from before committing. There’s lots of bottom feeders in these areas, and they’re clearly feeding on something, so logically there’d be something to gain from using swamp mud depending on what you’re trying to grow.
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Any jam makers around?

I picked about 5kg of straberries for jam the other week, amazing harvest for sure.

>>2746524
I would check for aphids, they tend to curl leafs like that.

If you do have them, i recommend buying ladybug larva, they can be quite effective.
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>>2746843
>Any jam makers around?
Here, we made 4 kg of haskap jam last month, the best jam imo although apricot jam is almost as good.
I kind of regret not making any photos now.
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>>2746843
I just planted a bunch of strawberries and raspberries, but I've never made jam before. Any tips?
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>>2746853
The best thing about making jam is that its super easy.

If you get som jam sugar its really only 2 ingredients in a pot that you let boil for about 6 minutes then pour into jars.

- You can let the berries and sugar soak in the fridge over night
- I heat up my jars in the oven before using them to lightly sterilize even though botulism is not really a worry with jam
- Have a good ladle else you get sticky jam everywhere

Picture if from my batch of ~1.5kg tayberries
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>>2746849
Thats very impressive, i only get a handful from my 4 bushes.

I did just plant them the other year so they most likely just need some more time.

Today i did a small batch of jam out of 50/50 Blue and Red Raspberries.
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>>2746855
My grandma always cut the sugar in half and used packaged pectin, always preferred it that way.
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>>2746853
I like using a foley mill when I make blackberry/raspberry jam to reduce the amount of seeds

>>2746856
My wild black raspberries are done fruiting already sadly. I just planted some primocane fruiting varieties so maybe I'll get some more in the fall
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>>2746857
Its basically what i call jam sugar, a sugar mix thats made for jam making.

often it has some light conservatives too, potassium sorbate / lemon

if you are mixing your own, adding some fresh lemon can help conserve it
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>>2746858
>I like using a foley mill when I make blackberry/raspberry jam to reduce the amount of seeds

Im going to steal that, great idea.
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>>2746855
>>2746859
Thanks, anon.
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Whew, got so hot my plants finally wilted because I didn't water them once.
The cucs are finger sized though, they're doing well. Gotta replace those dying peas with the brussel soon.
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>>2746524
Stress, three of my biggest have pretty bad leaf curl because I didn't harden them off before I transplanted them. They got whipped around by wind early in the season and now most of the top leaves are curled, some curled around the trellis. The smaller ones I did harden off however, are fine even in 100°F weather.

It won't effect production in any noticable way though, last week I let them flower finally and already have a couple baby tomatoes. So, don't worry.

>>2746528
That's a common disease called yellow leaf mosaic I believe, just prune it and it shouldn't spread.
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>>2747034
All well and perked up after a heavy watering
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Mouriri elliptica, Stenocalyx dysentericus and hancornia speciosa are all coming alright.
It's like, the worse the soil is and the lack of water they do even better, it's amazing.
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>>2747230
I love mine, it even flowered and fruited a couple months into owning it, I havnt taken the fruit off, A because its pretty B because I know they just taste like sugary cucumber water.
But, should I? I mean, it hast dropped and my cactus seems fine over all
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>>2745753
Yeah, from you.

Just get free windows and pallet wood, much smarter than giving costco more money
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>>2747241
that fruit is ready. take it off. either dry it out, or just plant the damn thing whole. you want it off the plant though.
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>>2747244
>JuSt GeT FrEe WiNdOwS
OK, give them to me
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>>2747282
Nta but if you have a local costco you probably have a municipal bulk waste disposal center. Try looking there. I wouldn't even bat an eye if that sounds like too much effort but hey, more money towards other stuff and maybe what you end up building is better than the pre built. Most big box home improvement stores will cut your wood for you and you'd just need some cheap-o harbor freight or amazon power tools. Plus you can say "I built that".
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>>2747298
After typing that out, I remembered you could also check out junkyards. Just don't call up and ask, there's laws against reselling junked building materials. But if you just show up and explain your project and slip someone $50 I'm sure they'll point you in the right direction.
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>>2747309
this is exactly why i do not contact my city or any property that loves paperwork. i need a ton of yard trimmings of all sizes and types, started offering to cut some shit to a couple nearby properties. social clubs and churches are the plan. no paperwork involved, just ask to chat with the "commander" or whatever the fuck gay rank system VFW outposts use.

my first thought for my problem was to just contact city parks and rec, ask if i could grab some tubs full of landscaping waste. then, i remembered my county physically removed every bit of park equipment during the china virus. basketball hoops, tennis nets, disc golf baskets, jungle gym equipment, you get the idea. fuck that, not even gonna bother calling to ask.
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>>2744717
how much corn do you get off your picture? how much fee or what is an easy way to show what you can do with that amount of corn?
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>>2746815
Took some pictures of them in the woods here.
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They are huge, either I take a picture close and they do not show up in it's entirety or I go far to take a picture and you can barely see them.
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I did not found saplings but I found fruits and seeds on the ground so I picked them up and I already planted them on the other lake.
The area to get near them is very dirty with weeds and whatnot, hard to get in.
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There is like, more than 30 Mauritia flexuosa on the same spot.
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Here is a nice one with another plant growing on top of her.
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Unrelated but, it's a tree I do not know the name.
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Up close, and the horse that likes to show on pictures.
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>>2747325
You can get tree trimmings from chip drop. If there's any gardeners in your area they might be willing to drop off grass clippings at your place.
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>>2747347
Wow, neat site. This may solve my problem and get my yard ready to be topped with actual soil
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>>2747335
neat thanks. i love pine trees and maples too much to ever live near tropical stuff but cool to see them every so often.
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>>2747347
lmao, i was curious about how many logs you get with a LOG DROP. someone on reddit posted. this is hilarious and awesome. exactly what i need, just...not in 110Freedom weather.

at least now i know. i just gotta wait until october to move that quantity of material. seems that if a landscaping company drops off a truck, they drop off an entire full truck. gotta prep for this.
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>>2747353
>Pine trees
I have Araucarias planted bellow some palm heart trees, I really like eating pine nuts from araucarias.
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Araucarias are dino pines.
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>>2747358
nice. yeah i have a stone pine which i think has the edible nuts on it eventually.
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>>2747362
You cook them and eat with honey, really delicious, there is a substance on araucaria pine nuts which are natural anti-depressants.
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>>2747350
Glad I could help. If you're using it for drainage then you might want to turn it into charcoal. It will last longer and drain better. It will also soak up nutrients so top it with something really rich like manure.

>>2747357
My friend got like 10 cubic yards of wood chips dumped in front of his driveway and we spent the whole day moving it to the backyard in a wheelbarrow
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>>2747363
>natural anti-depressants
just another reason to reject pharma.
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>>2747325
>Got a big enough joint there, Rick?
kek
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Well bros i planted a billion pole beans and a lot are ready to pick, but I mostly grew the beans for dried beans and not eating them like green beans with the pod. Should I just let them all mature and stay on the vine or would it be a waste not to pick a few rounds and then let them mature?
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>>2747445
Pick a bunch of them from at least a few plants. They'll continue producing more bean pods until you let the pods mature and dry out and after that they stop producing.
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>>2746804
plant bunch of different things.
Some things die, some thrive.
>>2746860
>>2746859
I like rasberry jam with seeds.
I dislike strawberry jam as it just wattery and sugar.

>>2747445
I grew bunch last year for storing, but ended up eating all of them as "green".
Had like 20kg of greenbeans and I ate them with the pods, even if the pods had fiber, I'd just chew em, get all the soft stuff out and spit out the fibers.
Very tasty, just needed butter and some salt.

as for your question, depends on how much of a growing season you have and what you want.
If you got a long growing season, then might as well pick em and have them grow new pods.
if you got short growing season, then you only get enough time for one or the other.
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Yeah... it's over.
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>>2747520
time to give it the proper burial it deserves
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>>2747573
I dug up that hazle bush, cut off all but one stem. Cut off big portion of the roots and planted it on top of that mound.
Now, there is a 99.9999% chance it's completely dead and what I did finished it off as well.
But if it comes back alive within a month of two, I will call it Jesus.
If not, I will just buy another hazle tree and plant it in that spot.
That mound should take care of the flooding issue during winter and keep it high and dry.
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>>2747605
still not quite sure why one died outright while this one survived.
As you can see both are pretty flooded, at least the roots on both are flooded.
But I am wondering if the issue was that the base of the stems were getting water as well and that's what really killed off the other one.
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>>2747607
i would not do anything with that patch. dont even try growing anything there, you weird arctic mofo
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>>2747607
>>2747605
man you got a lot of water pooling up on your area. you should try to make a bigger pond out of it or something. make a big pond and protect it for the frogs and such.
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>>2747607
and here is this patch in the summer. It survived.
>>2747611
>why do wytepipo climb those mountains
>>2747613
I'm just going to dig up the area around it and create a deepening, where hopefully water can pool into, while simultaneously creating a raised area in which I will plant a tree.
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>>2747607
Hazzle is quite resilient in my experience.
I have maybe 4 atm, one survived getting cut by mower to the ground, one survived falling tree.
All of them were under water for about 3 weeks and no issues.
Currently some deer decided, one of the bigger ones looks too pretty and completely destroyed half of it, but the other half is growing like nothing happen.
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>>2747620
Well ideally I want it to thrive. But at the very least survive.
As you can see from my pictures. One survived, but the other was just a couple of inches lower and didn't.
So I'm going to raise the ground and plant it higher on a mound.
Probably should do the same for the other one and get it a bit higher.
Whens the best time to replant the survived hazle?
And when is the best time to plant a new one?
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>>2747617
>I'm just going to dig up the area around it and create a deepening, where hopefully water can pool into, while simultaneously creating a raised area in which I will plant a tree.
nice post some pictures when its done.
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>>2747628
Well I already posted the initial mound. The desired height is there. Additional work would just add more soil around it to have more space for the future tree, and a trench pit in a semi circle around it, where stuff will drain into.
Of course, I plan to take pictures both when it's done, late winter to see how the water pools and summer to see how the plant is doing.

Also I already have frogs patrolling my garden.
I see them mostly around my strawberry patch.
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>>2747635
Come towards the light brother. All your gardening sins shall be forgotten once you learn to hate the ground elder.
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Anybody know what this shit is?
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>>2747639
it's too late for me brother, go on without me
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>>2747624
Probably same as any other shrub/tree.
Late fall to early spring, basically when it's dormant.
Summer usually isn't good time to move this stuff.
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>>2747639
if you can't beat em...eat em
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>>2747645
its important to have a nice meadow like that.
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>>2747515
>I like rasberry jam with seeds.
I like /some/ seeds, but if I kept all the seeds from black raspberries it would be a bit much

>>2747520
What's wrong with it? Some of those buds look alive to me
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Decided I will go with Terminalia catappa L near the lake and throw in some Mauritia Flexuosa and hope they sprout, takes 4 months for one of them to grow from seed.
Plan is to have shade enough in the water to lower the temperature and stop the lake from drying up, it happened 3 years ago and it was a sorry sight, lake ran completely out of water, there were thousands of fish rotting in the sun while all sorts of birds were eating them up.
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Anyone knows what this is? Moved in not long ago and this was here. My neighbor has no idea either and never had the chance of asking the previous owner.
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>>2747695
Looks like peach/nectarine
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>>2747696
That would be nice as I like both
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>>2747700
Presence or lack of fuzz on fruits next year will clue you in as to what you've got unless I'm totally wrong but it looks just like my peaches' leaves
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Are you fucking kidding me? I put peanut butter in the jaw trap and even accidentally got some on the trigger and something STILL GOT IT 100% CLEAN HOW IS THAT EVEN FUCKING POSSIBLE????

I'm genuinely mad about this. I put cheese in at the beginning and 6/7 traps got raided without triggering (got a huge rat on the 7th trap), so I thought surely peanut butter, which is sticky, would work better. Come on man what do I have to do??
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>>2747659
meadow?! Thats my rye field you son of a bitch!
>>2747669
>What's wrong with it? Some of those buds look alive to me
its been like that for months now, while its counterpart looks like this >>2747617
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>>2747733
some tomatoes
>you expect me to bare fruit in these harsh conditions?!
>no tomato, I expect you to die
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whats this and how did it get here?
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>>2747708
>meadow?! Thats my rye field you son of a bitch!
oops lol. but i really want to plant some emmer wheat some day to make my own emmer farro since i eat it a lot.
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>>2747744
nah I'm just joking
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>>2747705
Most common rodemts and birds have become domesticated. Which means they know how to find a free meal. The only critters out here that are scared of humans are fox.
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>>2747736
Ain't that thisle? Might've gotten it on your pant leg.
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>>2747767
no way that is thistle.
it looks to me like clover. butI've not seen this particular color
looks like red clover, but.... its not red.
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>>2747640
Some kind of gall mite maybe
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>>2747639
>ground elder
Lol i jus found out this is called ''gardener's sorrow' in my language
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>>2747381
Good luck getting enough pinenuts to cure depression in the other seasons when pinecones aren't making them.
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>>2746797
Same, I have no spiritual beliefs either. Gardening is an exercise in agriculture and science for me
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>>2747736
My eyesight ain't great. You didn't give any zone info, so my guess contribution will be some type of a garlic flower
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>>2747736
Alsike clover and creeping bellflower.
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I'm beginning to develop a passionate hatred for these things. Just startled one that was raiding my newly-planted fruit trees.

Anyone ever hold a WV agricultural deer-killing permit? (Might also be called a nuisance wildlife permit?)

If so, do they specify how you have to take deer, or if standard hunting regs apply? I live in town and can't use the usual methods, so I'm wondering if I can find a loophole to take them after normal hours or with non-standard weapons.
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>>2747989
I saw them referred to as rats on stilts once and I've been giggling about it ever since
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>>2747989
I cant believe the gall of that deer. The sheer nerve of him to eat some fruit. How DARE he! Better KILL that deer so he doesnt eat even one more piece of precious, precious fruit.
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>>2747705
Just use live traps. They don't close until the rodent is all the way in. Killing them doesn't really matter because you could never kill enough to make a difference.
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>>2747995
>rats on stilts
>>2747996
>I cant believe the gall of that deer. The sheer nerve of him to eat some fruit. How DARE he! Better KILL that deer so he doesnt eat even one more piece of precious, precious fruit.
I fucking laughing so hard, thanks guys!
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>>2748009
I think he meant that the deer was fucking up the tree itself, but you probably already knew that and just wanted to troll
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Deer eating fallen apples?
I'm calm
Deer eating all of my salads?
I'M CALM
Deer destroying my newly planted trees just for shits and giggles?
I will kill every single one of them.
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>>2747996

Dude, try looking at it from my perspective. All my trees are young enough that they're not even at the fruiting stage yet. They get damaged enough by deer browsing and they'll die. And I'm poor as fuck. I don't want to have to replace the trees or spend money on a deer fence.

Could also use the cheap meat.
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>>2748012

Yup.

>>2748013

THANK YOU.
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genocide the animals
they don't deserve ze fruit
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>>2748065
I plant stuff just so I can see them eating it.
Plant guava: parrots stop and eat on the tree, I'm even spraying cupric anti-fungal in another tree right by it's side and a flock of 10-20 wild parrots does not even move from the guava, they just sit there eating and looking towards me.
Plant maniocs: armadillos and partridge come chill around and eat them, a partridge even makes a nest in by backyard.
Same goes for a lot of other fruit I have here, I think daily the birds eat around 16 to 20 bananas that I put outside for them to eat, every thing from toco toucans to Cyanocorax cyanomelas show up to eat.
Even bunnies show up to eat my sweet potatoes.
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>They are trying to hoard all the fruit again, I won't let them
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>>2748196
yeah i'm just joking
killing things for trying to live near you is peak americanism
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>>2748200
If you plant corn around here you will go insane, there is a small version of parrot that eats pretty much anything with a pulp, plus, wild game pidgeons would show up and there is Tayassu pecari every where as well, they are not as bad as wild hogs but still, they eat a lot.
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I was hand pollinating a pumpkin flower today cus it's raining, and one of the things circled in red in pic rel broke off. one of the bulby things in the center

is that pumpkin screwed or will it still grow, assuming i pollinated it correctly?
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>>2748199
I just had a rabbit chomp a blackberry cane at ground level that probably would have had 3 lbs of fruit on it
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>>2748206
They eat all the leaves on my sweet potatoes.
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>*heavy breathing* Did dis thing just eat MAH FOOD? *fucking shoots it*
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>>2748212
Dunno what third world you're from but they're a legitimate plague in most parts of the states. The statistics for how much damage they cause and how much they cost insurance companies alone is enough evidence to have a permanent open season on deer. That's before you look at how many of them actually cause human deaths from accidents or legitimately kamikaze'ing some random person just walking about. There is actually one person a month out here who dies on a motorcycle because these shits sperg out when they hear loud noises or see fast moving lights. Which is unbelievable because they know enough that when the sun sets hunters won't pursue them and if they hang around suburbs they get free food. Plus they'll kill pets, I caught one of those fuckers trying to kill someone's cat last week because it got too close to it's demon spawn. Galaxy brains like you successfully voted for a ban on the bear season out here too. Bears are very rare here but the reason for the hunting was to keep it that way and after it got banned some granny got eaten alive the same year it was banned. So then they opened the bear hunt again.
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>>2748228
We have a deer overpopulation problem in my state, better they get shot than starve to death
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>>2748228
>*kaboom*
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>>2748228
Even rewilding projects (aka the biggest hippies of them all) are reintroducing lynxes, wolfs and other predators to keep these fucks in check.
Without any predators they are no longer forced to be on the move, stay in one place and destroy it.
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>>2748228
>obliterates natural habitats for predators
>paves over every bit of green with roads and mcmansions
>starts throwing food trash everywhere that attracts the animals
>"GOSH DARN IT DEMZ DEERS GOTTA BLEW THESE TO PIECES"
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>>2748205
plz respond i dont want my pumpkin to die :(
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>>2748234
>literally invent the concept of conservation and national parks

Yeah keep talking shit about us though, these ideas didn't even EXIST before Americans thought of them
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>>2748245
So exceptional... I kneel...
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>>2748241
It's fine lol. As long as is it's getting regular water and fertilizer you're good. My garden doesn't need pollinators but I try to attract them because they're really good a eating fucking aphids and sometimes they munch on the stamen of my veg flowers but I still get peppers and such.
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I was going to pull out that old diseased pea but it put out a bunch of new pods and flowers even half yellow. Huh.
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>>2748253
but part of the inner part of the flower broke, will it still grow into a pumpkin?
I'm mostly worried because I only have a small number of female flowers, so I'm worried that part of this one breaking will destroy the pumpkin
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>>2748266
Cucs still struggling with mildew but the first one should be close to harvest soon.
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>>2748270
Yes, I actually got bored last night and watched a vid on growing mammoth pumpkin varieties and the guy did exactly what you did and was confident it would grow. The only difference was he zip-tied the flower shut after the process. Not sure if that's a thing for just huge varieties or all pumpkins but watch some yt vids or something, fren.
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>>2748271
Still don't know where my smooth chinese cucumber went lmao
Peppers are so nicely low maintenance, wish the plants were more productive overall though
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>>2748013
Based. I've never seen a wild deer irl, but my version of that would be grackles and pigeons. I'm calm if they stay in my front yard where I occasionally put some suet and clean out my pet birds cage. I lose my cool and grab my daisy when they fucking strut around my backyard despite displaying the corpses of their fallen brothers and sisters multiple time so they all see.

Some times I lose faith in my ability to control, but then I just make a thermos of coffee, grab my whole pack of smokes, and chill outside until the deed is done.
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Lots of bird nests once they dry, will poke a hole in them, take away all the seeds to plant new ones, got over 40 of these gourds from a single plant.
Even some owls nested in one of them near my shed, they stay there in the morning near the tractor looking at us, one stays inside the gourd and the other one stays outside on top of a wood beam.
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>>2748241
anon it's going to make other flowers its okay buddy
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>>2748281
I think I'm going to have to grow gourds next year
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winds just took off a prickly pear branch. rip big nigga
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>>2748310
I read about a guy who was shooting at cacti and got crushed to death by a falling branch
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>>2748312
ill take a photo in a bit once im done transfering some junk off my phone. at first glance, id estimate the branch weighs ~40lbs
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>>2748314
Phew. Kinda lucky, only half the branch fell off, and it was my worst one. Lost about 20 lbs.
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Does anyone recognize what this might be? It usually shows up on my basil, but pic rel is my lemon balm. Always happens after heavy rain
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>>2748325
Blotch leafminers is my guess
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>>2748326
That looks like it! Thank you
Now time to figure out how to stop those things
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>>2748322
all right so a pic of a broken cactus isnt interesting. i was having a toke out back and noticed two somethings. i put some bird seed out like two months ago, and there was certainly corn in the mix. this is corn, right? its vegas. its slightly over 110Freedom.
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Had these mystery plants pop up in last year's Tomato patch I decided not to use. Turned into some black nightshade plants, so I guess I'm starting a nightshade patch.

Any experience or tips? Read that they're cultivated all over for food so there must be some tricks.
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>>2748377
>cultivated all over for food so there must be some tricks.
>A comparison of the fruit shows that the black nightshade berries grow in bunches, whereas the deadly nightshade berries grow individually.
Make sure you dont eat the toxic one.
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>>2748378
I'm already pretty positive it's a european black nightshade and perfectly safe as long as I don't eat the green berries or mature leaves. Just curious if anybody knows how much water they should be getting or if I should be pruning or just let it grow wild?

I tried to relocate 4 or 5 decent size starts that were near the two larger ones that I didn't move but they didn't seem to take to the relocation even though it was the same patch just a few feet away and that was disappointing, so I wanna get a decent yield off these two healthy ones and toss some fruit around for next year.
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>>2747996
Well, killing him would certainly stop him from eating fruit, wouldn't it, faggot?
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>>2748379
seeing as its wild, let it grow wild
if it looks thirsty, water it, thats about it
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What's an inexpensive way to get the right PH for watering my greenhouse plants?
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>>2748514
cheapest method is to find a friend with a pool, then grab a pH strip when he's not looking to at least find the baseline pH of a few of your representative soil samples. whatcha mean by "get the right pH"? be specific.
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>>2748514
Use red cabbage.
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>>2748514
Strips are like 1$ for a hundred but you probably mean actual soil so I think lime and peat or sulphur would be the things?
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>>2744765
Insufficient nutrients. Fruit trees experiencing trauma burn through enormous amounts of nutrients short term. If these are unavailable, the plant dies.

Next time, put a bushel of slightly rotten potatoes underneath and then around the roots. Once buried to proper depth, wateer heavily. The leave the tree alone. Auger the next hole, rinse lather and repeat. Your trees should prosper if you leave them alone for a month.
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Caught some oregano on the side of the road.
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>>2748541
>on the side of the road
Bruh, it's soaked with tire dust and combustion leftovers, never eat anything that grows right next to a road
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>>2748514
PH strips but don't use them to measure soil PH, they are too unreliable for that, they are only good for measuring water PH
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I used even less browns this time and it got scorchin hot, 50 C above ambient and no bad smell still.
I'll try for 2:1 green to brown volume wise next because I'm already out of browns and have to use cardboard, hopefully it won't go anaerobic.
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Missed a young tree in my watering rotation during a drought, now it has sun damage all over the leaves. I gave it water and draped a shade cloth over it. Is there anything else I can do to help it recover? Never had a plant with so much UV damage before
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>>2748552
Don't forget to blast it with piss
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>>2748547
...how do you think a soils lab preps soil samples?
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>>2748546
Oreganos only seem to grow at the sides of the roads, in these parts; and surely the winds and rain remove most of said dust & leftovers.
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>>2748563
In laboratory conditions with precise amount of water and soil at room temperature using deionized water and after calibrating professional pH tester with a pH 7 and a pH 10 buffer solution you retarded forgposter
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>>2748541
MMM I love carcinogens
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>>2748566
i mean, our soils lab also has a 4ph buffer because some soils eat through non-nitrile. precise amount of di water? hmm. not really. the epa method states to saturate the prepped soil. that means wet to the point water starts pooling in the sample. its not "precise" like you imagine. at least, for a simple test like pH or resistivity lol.

youre way too paranoid about numbers.
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>>2748568
https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2017-10/documents/method_1316_-_final_8-3-17.pdf
i think this is the correct methodology. i browsed through it, looks correct. it's been a little while since i worked in a soils lab directly.

homogenity is used a lot, which means "saturate the soil sample, but dont overdo/underdo it, and also, do it several times".
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What to do with my tomato cutlings? Put them in the water to root for fun but I have no place for them nor is it the right time anyway
Indoors?
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Can I do anything with these pawpaws? There's about 10 of them growing in this area in my yard obviously not enough space for all of them
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>>2748627
Transplant them in winter?
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>>2748627
*raises pawpaw* UwU
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>>2748586
Maybe see how long you can keep them alive. Tomatoes are perennials if you can keep them warm enough.
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>>2748650
I could keep them as an ornamental of sorts. Doubt they'd get enough light outside of summer here to fruit.
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>>2748627
Was there a large pawpaw tree there before?
They might all come from the same root system, pawpaws like to sucker.
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>>2748651
They don't fruit all year, but if you can keep them alive all winter then they will have one hell of a head start on the rest of your tomatoes
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>>2748658
There's a big one off to the right out of frame
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>>2748635
Not him but I've heard wild pawpaws don't transplant well due to the huge taproot. I'm planning to pick some trees up at my local pawpaw festival later in the summer
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>spread old rice around backyard to help get some micro shit going
>guard the rice all day from windows and whatnot
>birds circling
>heavily water the rice so birds cant just grab it easily
>mush it into soil
>come back an hour later, pigeons
so you have chosen...death
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someone bake
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>>2748281
What do you do with these?
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>>2748740
He just told you. He makes bird nests.
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>>2748752
I'm not a bird but can he make a home for me out of those?
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>>2748756
Not very easily. Wood or bamboo would be much better
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>>2748785
Just grow a giant one for me to live in?
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>>2748830
I wonder if you could disable a few genes and have the fruit grow to any size.
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>>2748882
Assumedly limited by the celullar throughput of the plant itself.
Though IG fruits used to be tiny not that long ago.
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>>2748883
I think the time it would take to grow is the real killer. The plant would have to grow insanely fast so that it would have enough leaf area and time to put out a fruit that big in just one season. Maybe it could be made to flower biennially or even less often and store ridiculous amounts of carbohydrates in its roots.
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ffs, it's not even july yet, how over is it for my sunchoke?
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>>2748937
i got wild corn seedlings sprouting up to six inches now. in vegas. in several weeks of consistent 105-110°F. nature is weird.
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Huh, just found some tatos I could supposedly harvest before the last frost in my zone.
I might do that next year instead of radishes.
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>>2748627
its probably best to leave them be, assuming you don't wanna get rid of them
they're not good for transplanting, and if they're a sucker, they'll mostlikely die
maybe thin a couple, but thats about it
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>Watch youtube short on picking raspberries
>Girl starts the video with her just yanking on an unripe berry until it comes off while squeeing too hard on it
>Picks like 1.5 pints of berries
>Breaks off 3 raspberry leafs to put on top for "aesthetic"
>None of the comments are pointing out how shit of a picker she is
Feels weird being in the top 1% of fruit pickers in the USA, farm work is just some mythical thing that just happens for them. Anyone else picker master race here?
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>>2749036
my tribe would have smashed her arms & legs, then left her in the sun
terrible berry pickers make terrible wives
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>>2749036
this thread goes very hard
love from kazakhstan
I hate women so much it's unreal
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>>2749036
Berry picker is women job. Me great bunga. Great bunga hunter. Me fuck all berry picker wife when come back from big hunt.
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>>2749027
so if i want a couple on a different part of the property its probably just best to try from seed? lots of fruit growing on the big one right now so i should be able to get some if the deer don't take it all
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>>2749076
Try air layering them and then transplanting them after they have roots.
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>>2749090
I'm going to try this. I'll report back if successful
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>>2749114
>I'll report back if successful
That's not very scientific.
You should report no matter the outcome, so other anons can learn.
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>>2749115
Very well then. In that case I will also bare my shame that others may succeed where I have not
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just saw this cool little fella where i dump the lawn clippings
Pleuroloma flavipes
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>>2749134
this is the part that caught my eye
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>>2749134
>>2749135
CUTE! I want to take it home.
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Ate the first cucumber. Not bad but honestly not the best. These heirlooms aren't as juicy as the hybrids.
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Im training a grape as a standard. Should I top the vine as soon as it reaches the desired height? Or do I just let it grow beyond that and prune it during the winter?
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>>2749169
>got another one for breakfast today
>nothing else
>walk by a few hours later and i see a giant one i haven't seen before
This always happens with cucumbers for me, love it.
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Is there anything about fancy grafting tape that normal adhesive tape can't do?
Expect the price of course
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>>2749212
Grafting tape works outdoors, but more than that it doesn't seem to trap water against the wood, which would cause rotting basically every time.
I suspect it's cheaper to buy tape made from the same material which isn't branded as grafting tape. Only experienced users would be able to identify it, common market segmentation
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>>2749176
Not sure but I suspect you'd leave it to overgrow then prune it back when dormant. If you pruned out of season it might bleed, then put on new grown exactly where you didn't want it to in winter and lose the new growth
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>>2748937
Powdery mildew? You can treat that on a small scale, and the plant will tolerate a lot of it. But I suspect your sunchoke was overcrowded. They take a lot of space to grow, which is a problem because they're hard to contain.
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>>2748678
I don't think it's wise to dump food waste everywhere, it's not compost. You don't even want rice in your compost.
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It's winter and my raspberries are doing very poorly, a lot of new canes seemingly died and I don't know what I can do for them at this stage
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>>2749236
Are you sure they're not just dormant? Post some pics of them
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Bump limit reached, new thread needed.
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Do I relaly need to test my soil or can I just buy some generic fertilizer and call it a day for my tomatoes and other things?

Also any good recommendations for a good fertilizer? Liquid and grain.
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>>2749229
Ok, I'll spend a bit more on grafting tape then

>>2749280
You don't need to test your soil, it's good to know your pH tho
Generic fertilizer is good enough, they sometimes market something as fertilizer for [specific plant] but it's good for majority of plants, there are exceptions like blueberry fertilizer which usually acidifies soil and is not good for things that don't thrive in low pH
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>>2749287
I should have mentioned this but any ideas of what I can do if my soil is a bit acidic? I remember testing my pH last year and it was supposed to be fine but all my tomatoes tasted like dogshit kek
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>>2749294
>what I can do if my soil is a bit acidic?
Nothing, a bit acidic is fine, even preferable for many crops like tomatoes but if you want to rise pH add lime in early spring.

>all my tomatoes tasted like dogshit
Unlikely to be pH issue, more likely inconsistent moisture or nutrient deficiency or a problem with nutrient uptake.
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>>2749280
DESU I'd me more concerned about toxins than the actual soil health
But yeah just get some compost as a base and a liquid vermicompost
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>>2749234
Yea, it looks like it.
I don't think it's overcrowded, it's in a large pot in windy location but this year been unusually wet so I think moisture is the reason.
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Should i bury the rootstock deeper next time I repot?
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>>2749326
that looks like an old chiken thigh
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>>2749280
I can tell you how to test your own soil with beans and red cabbage if you'd like.
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What is happening to my basil?
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>>2749343
Some kind of infection. Trim off the black leaves, cut the flowers off so it doesn't become woody, and spray the flowers with compost tea.
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>>2749352
>spray the flowers with compost tea
Lol
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>>2749361
>flowers
I meant leaves. The microbes from the tea with compete with pathogens and keep the plant healthy.
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This is the final /hgm/. Men will no longer grow at home once this thread dies.
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>>2749380
Just transition into a women and continue growing at home, what's the big deal?
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>>2749352
Thanks
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>>2749411
No problem.
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Ew, those peas were so diseased. Thought they might power through and they put out a bunch of pods but they were spotted and diseased too. Gonna plant that brussel in there as I said and try to spread the boxes even further apart.
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>>2749550
Realized my balcony arrangement is really retarded, doing another switching up to give everything more space.
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>>2749558
Whew, done. Much better.
Also ended up pulling out my old fucked up potted basil and hyacinths. Planted some of those rooted tomato prunings for fun in them instead. I'll see what it does indoors.
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I tried air drying my chamomile and it got a funky non chamomile taste. Should I just oven dry it?
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bro time to sift?
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do any of you profit off homegrowing? is it a worthwhile side hustle? i enjoy gardening for fun so it's something i'm considering
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>>2749804
I dont grow enough or have enough time but my friends retired parents sell their stuff to an organic shop at the local market. Just grow your stuff and bring samples to different places in town. Especially small businesses that market local or organic produce
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>>2749804
The hardest part is finding customers and a crop that you can reliably grow. Start by growing for yourself to reduce your food bill, and then try to find customers and expand slowly. You can have people preorder vegetables from you and have them pay when you give them the vegetables. Succession planting is essential for that type of market gardening and season extension strategies could make a huge difference in your profits. Microgreens can also yield quite a bit of money, but it's hard to find customers. If you want to try selling them start growing for yourself while you look for customers so you have samples of your product. If you have enough land then you can set up a U-pick. Find a fruit that grows well in your area like strawberries, raspberries, cherries, ect. and plant a bunch. When they're ready to bear start advertising. Your first year is likely to have poor yields so it doesn't matter if you don't get very many people coming through. If you're growing fruit trees then you can also crop hay like orchard grass or alfalfa between the rows. A flock of birds can save you a lot in pesticide. Ducks are better than chickens for insect control and they lay more eggs per year. Dual purpose breeds give you more opportunities to profit but more wild breeds take less effort to tend. Guinea fowl are even better at insect control than ducks, but they lay few eggs and make bad mothers in most climates.

Did you have any specific crop in mind?
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>>2749804
Preserves are what I assume would be the thing worth the trouble.
Raw stock is too cheap and too perishable, most of the farmers are already selling at poverty prices. Some nice jams and pickles though? Honey? People sell them online for a LOT.
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Is this powdery mildew or nah? Cuke leaves have had this grey color since they sprouted.
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>>2749888
Nope, it's fine. I'm pretty sure it's a harmless endophyte.
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>>2749888
Zucchini?
Completely normal, don't worry
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Overhead string tomato support is working great. The clips need adjusting now and then, and some of the lower ones can be removed once the plant is supported higher up.

I should have put one less plant in there as the spacing is tight. I've been aggressively pruning the lower leaves. I let one sucker grow on each plant and each branch has its own string.



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