>>2802550
I camped in my back yard all the time as a kid. We had a pond and a little forest area about a quarter mile from the house.

Seeing this video made me feel kind of sad, wish I had been born to better parents that brought me along on trips or got me into this shit early

>>2802570
i have spoken to several baby boomers that had family gatherings out in kentucky either at grandmas or in the woods camping every weekend. like 30-40 people drinking beer, hanging out, playing cards, fixing cars.
i don't think boomers realize they never handed down some of these family traditions in pursuit of the counter culture.

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>>2802550
>12 years old and alone in Alaska
Yeah sure, kid.

>>2802577
>i have spoken to several baby boomers that had family gatherings out in kentucky either at grandmas or in the woods camping every weekend. like 30-40 people drinking beer, hanging out, playing cards, fixing

this is boomers

>i don't think boomers realize they never handed down some of these family traditions in pursuit of the counter culture.
this is gen x major difference.

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>>2802627
If only we could see how many views come from Hindustan
>>2802683
>picrel

>>2802627
Watch the video. He is within walking distance of a cabin where his dad is staying.

Technically he is alone.

>>2802704
I don't want to watch this video. Stop spamming these ugly fascist mormons.

>>2802705
>fascist
lol
Actually deranged.

>>2802742
>disowning your kids if they are born gay is not deranged
>magical underwear and tax dodging real estate investment cult is not deranged

>>2802744
nobody is born gay

>>2802550
I was wondering when his kids would start doing their own stuff.
>>2802570
Same. My family would go camping every summer, but it was in a big fancy trailer, and we never did anything particularly outdoorsy. My mom wouldn't even let me split firewood until I was like 17.
>>2802705
>>2802744
Fuck off to bluesky, tranny

>>2802550
I used to disappear for like weeks with nothing but a revolver or a hatchet when I was a kid
Probably way safer for a kid out in the sticks than in a school surrounded by pedophile teachers and nigaboos.

>>2802744
>tax dodging real estate
Damn, are the mormons really that based? And they're getting away with it?
And the kick queers out?
Where do I sign up?
>no alcohol
I'll just admire them from afar.

>>2802744
>magical underwear
What did he mean by this?

>>2802771
the positive is you get multiple wives
you dont get to drink but you get to have sex with like 4 women at once

>>2802820
>at once
No you don't. Besides a few degenerate mormons most with multiple wives keep them to separate nights. Stop watching porn dude.

LOL he's TOTALLY alone, his parents are a full 200 yards from him at (60% of) all times!
strawpoll.com/e2naXD8EeyB

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>hey fags, how's losing at life?

>>2802819
Mormons have magical underwear

>>2802820
Mormon's haven't been polygamous since 1890.

>>2802917
dysgenic

>>2802765
Why did you let your Mom have that much control over you?

>>2802819
It's called "temple garment." They think it provides spiritual protection (some even think it provides physical protection from shit like car accidents and fires).
>>2802954
Because I generally obeyed my parents when I was a minor.
I cut firewood now regardless of the looks she gives me.

>>2802550
100000 Indians watching at once

>>2804633
what do jeets have to do with this?

love how luke makes faggot retards seethe so much

>>2804731
Stay mad shitjeet

>>2805033
I'm not a jeet, I'm just wondering why they would be watching some kid going camping. There isn't even any cow shit in the video.

>>2805199
They're 12...

>>2802747
false

>>2802747
Explain?

People who watch YouTube influencers are embarrassing. I've had to point out to my own parents when shits fake so many times. You're watching someone play pretend on camera for add revenue that's what uoi find entertaininh. Just watch alone or something I'd think way more of you.

>>2805557
i hate indians so much it's unreal

>>2802570
>>2802577
Getting dragged out in fucked up weather to do fucked up camping because your family can't afford to do real shit fucking sucks, you're all retarded. I'm glad that knowing how to do something as basic as building a fire or whatever lets you explore feelings of masculinity you'll never be able to hold onto because you're fucking stupid, but don't go foisting dumbass feelings off on to everyone else over it you fucking cocksuckers.

>>2805576
You're trying too hard.

>>2802744
None of this is fascism, using words with grave meaning as catch all buzz words for "people i disagree with" creates a culture where the word no longer has meaning and people dont listen anymore when you use that language. Its the story of the boy who cried wolf, most people learn this truth in life very young, you would have too if your parents loved you enough to read to you. Fags are gay, Kill yourself tranny.

>>2805202
Not false. Fags are made through grooming and molestation. Children who are loved and protected always turn out straight

>>2802744
>Disowning your gay kid isn't deranged
Correct.
>Magical underwear is deranged
Why are you making things up?
>Tax dodging is deranged
Tax dodging is beyond based you retarded cuck. I'm not paying for Consula's third illegitimate anchor baby and Tyrone's second ER visit for his herpes outbreak.

>>2802918
>>2803190
The idea behind the underwear is only degenerates wouldn't cover certain parts of their bodies--turns out they're right.

>>2805644
we don't need to be ashamed of our bodies and our genitals

>>2805650
Mormon underwear is retarded but nudists are much worse, and unironically deserve death.

>>2802744
>disowning your kids if they are born gay is not deranged
correct

>>2802550
mirin the drip
>>2802570
well, at least it's one of those things that aren't too late to do now

>>2802550
thats so fucking creepy to watch videos of 12 year old boys. go outside weirdo

>>2807432
>anon cannot even see a male child without having sexual thoughts
>projects this onto everyone else

i would do that
if i could find my tent
and sleeping bag
and pack frame
and parka
i just gotta look for it haha
maybe my parents garage

>>2805576
>I'm glad that knowing how to do something as basic as building a fire or whatever lets you explore feelings of masculinity you'll never be able to hold onto

Real lmfao

I had a friend like this, he would come out to my woods and do basic bushcraft stuff to feel like a man. Like... starting a fire and sharpening a stick type stuff I did as an 8 year old...

>>2804974
>>2805221
He's just a shitty resource for bushcraft there are dozens of better resources. I've seen a winter video where he was like "make a fire, spread out the coals and then sleep on top of it" which is a great way to get burned and not a good way to stay alive.

He jsut wipes charcoal dust on his face every episode to make it seem like he's doing stuff...

If you grow up with Survivorman this dude just seems like a hack. Even dual survival would be a better resource and that is saying A LOT

>>2802550
Tent is full of holes from all the sparks that landed on it, also a candle or alcohol flame in the tent would work better

Shut up hotlips

>>2808248
his primary audience is autistic people

>>2808275
that's probably why his comments are turned off on all his videos he knows the average views is some neckbeard

>>2802705
>these ugly fascist mormons
found the ACK-

>>2808275
His primary audience seems to be people who never actually go outside. If you do any kinda camping/bushcraft regularly his videos are so ridiculously cringe that it borders on satire.

There are just better resources. Primitive Technology just as a for instance. Outdoor Boys appeals to people who like the idea of camping but dont actually want to develop survival skills.

It's always the most novice/idiotic/dangerous ideas. None of his camps are meant for any kinda long term habitation he often makes a half assed camp with zero cover and sleeps with zero comfort.

Even something as simple as a fire structure is beyond him, his fires are just a pile of brush...

He violates the basic tenet of "Shelter, water, fire, food" typically he builds Fire -> Shelter and then water and food are irrelevant because he just packs everything in.

Watch his most recent vid about surviving 3 days solo. His fire structure is ass (just a random pile of brush) and his shelter is even worse. Just throwing bundles of boughs on top of a crap lean to instead of trying to orient them vertically and create a triple overlap (which will shed the rain efficiently). This is basic basic basic bush craft. The first thing you should learn is how to make a survival shelter.... 14:37 he literally says "Hopefully we got it right" that should tell you everything you need to know. Dude has been doing this for over a decade and is still unsure about his shelter building skills. Why would anyone take advice from someone who is that inept?

A proper winter survival shelter doesnt even require fire to stay warm.... it uses body heat because it's relatively air tight.

The moment it starts to rain this dude would be soaked and hypothermic. I can go on.

Source: Grew up in VT woods, night time snowmaker for 5 years, my father was cadre with the US Army Mountain Warfare school in Jericho, VT.

>>2808521
>Primitive Technology just as a for instance
This is comparing apples to oranges. Primitive Technology isn't about survival, or even camping. It's about building cool shit with primitive techniques in the Australian rainforest. The PT guy doesn't actually live that way, he just goes out to build things and then goes home.
>None of his camps are meant for any kinda long term habitation
Duh? He goes out for like 3 days at a time. Why would he build a camp for long-term habitation when he's not inhabiting his camps long-term?
You seem to be expecting Outdoor Boys to be a channel about living and surviving in the bush. It isn't. He's not trying to be Survivorman.

>>2808543
>You seem to be expecting Outdoor Boys to be a channel about living and surviving in the bush. It isn't. He's not trying to be Survivorman.

Seems like he's not trying at all honestly. The channel seems to be just a dude suffering in the bush with zero idea what the fuck he's doing.

>Why would he build a camp for long-term habitation when he's not inhabiting his camps long-term?

Because his temporary shelters dont actually do anything. A permanent shelter would actually ya know... provide shelter. Like I said it's one of the first things you learn. I could build a better shelter at 8 years old. The only reason he can even survive the night is because he wears full snow gear to sleep.

It takes the same amount of time to make a good shelter as one of his shitty shelters. He just completely lacks the skill set to accomplish it.

>You seem to be expecting Outdoor Boys to be a channel about living and surviving in the bush. It isn't.
>Primitive Technology isn't about survival, or even camping.

Well according to you neither is Outdoor Boys so maybe the comparison is more apt than you're implying. I'm saying that there is actual useful information on that channel. Outdoor Boys is just a dude floundering in the snow with zero useful information.

Are you watching his stuff for it's entertainment value? That's almost worse. I cannot imagine anything more boring desu, just go outside and do it yourself... The only valid reason to consume survivalist content is as a resource. Otherwise you're just a LARPer whose living vicariously through them and you see no issues with what Luke is doing because he's doing as well or better than you yourself could.

If you know better it's basically unwatchable. It's like when your little brother is playing a video game level you've already beat and you just die inside watching him miss the obvious solutions.

>>2802550
>you will never get to this level
yeah you're right
my parents didn't give a fuck about me

>>2808562
>Seems like he's not trying at all honestly. The channel seems to be just a dude suffering in the bush with zero idea what the fuck he's doing.
He doesn't seem to be suffering very much.
>Because his temporary shelters dont actually do anything. A permanent shelter would actually ya know... provide shelter. Like I said it's one of the first things you learn. I could build a better shelter at 8 years old. The only reason he can even survive the night is because he wears full snow gear to sleep.
Yeah, that's probably part of why he doesn't bother making a good shelter, because he's warm enough anyway.
>Well according to you neither is Outdoor Boys so maybe the comparison is more apt than you're implying. I'm saying that there is actual useful information on that channel. Outdoor Boys is just a dude floundering in the snow with zero useful information.
It's a camping/adventure channel.
>Are you watching his stuff for it's entertainment value? That's almost worse. I cannot imagine anything more boring desu, just go outside and do it yourself... The only valid reason to consume survivalist content is as a resource
I watch survivalist content almost entirely for its entertainment value. I don't go outside and do it myself because I have neither the money nor the means to go on camping trips, and I hate the cold.
>Otherwise you're just a LARPer whose living vicariously through them and you see no issues with what Luke is doing because he's doing as well or better than you yourself could.
He does much better than I myself could.

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>>2808593
>He doesn't seem to be suffering very much.

He complains basically every single video about his back after sleeping because he builds such dogshit shelters. He has to wake up to tend his fire all night instead of using his body heat to stay warm. It's not like doing it the right way takes any longer he just lacks the skill or knowledge to actually make warm/comfortable shelters.

I just want to reiterate: This is the FIRST SKILL YOU LEARN. (Shelter, water, fire, food) It's not as if what I'm saying is some in-depth skill you need to spend your life studying. It is a day one, hour one skill that a 5 year old can learn.

Pic related: You can stay warm in these with just your body heat.

>Yeah, that's probably part of why he doesn't bother making a good shelter, because he's warm enough anyway.

Then why bother at all? You can just sleep in a snowbank if you're in full snow gear. I've done it many times.

>I don't go outside and do it myself

This was literally my point here:
>>2808521
"His primary audience seems to be people who never actually go outside."

>I hate the cold.

Give your balls a tug. You're not gonna be cold if you're properly dressed.

>He does much better than I myself could.

That's genuinely sad dude.

>I watch survivalist content almost entirely for its entertainment value.

Like I said it's only entertaining if you dont know any better. To me it's cringe and unwatchable.

>It's a camping/adventure channel.

Man I guess the fuck so. Just an incompetent one. I know I seem like a hater (and I am) but I just dont get the appeal of watching someone who barely knows what they're doing act like what they're doing is proper.

There are multiple types of winter survival shelters that are actually warm, dry and comfortable. He just doesnt build them. He builds crappy lean tos and stacks brush on them randomly.

Not even gonna TOUCH his fire structures or rather his lack thereof. You dont need to be Daniel Boone to tell they suck.

>>2808521
i would rather watch xander budnick or clay hayes any day of the week.
I do archery and like basic hunting and fishing stuff
both if them satisfy that for me.
Whatever outdoorfaggot does i dont like it. That's it that's the end of it for me.
I have a feeling he knows most if his audience arent really interested in the outdoors and just like vlogs or vloggers because from what i can tell he does exactly that but with extra steps.

>>2808622
>Man I guess the fuck so. Just an incompetent one. I know I seem like a hater (and I am) but I just dont get the appeal of watching someone who barely knows what they're doing act like what they're doing is proper.

at least he's not as dumb as that kid that died trying to use woodlands survivalcraft in a place that turns into an tundra in the winter. that's the only upside is that he's not a complete jackass. Im not gonna claim to be a survivalist. The only survival skills i know are bow hunting, knowing how to fight, skinning an animal, fishing and starting a fire. I know how rough it csn get to some extent because all of my hunting trips we stay in a cabin with no insulation, water or electricity

I literallt watched a clip of the outdoorboys guy say "Snow build up can cover up crevices and that can make it desdly because j could literally fall and get stuck or die" then it cuts to him walking across rhe exact path he was just talking about saying someshit about how he's taking this path anyway.

Actual mentally retarded people like an autistic person watching him is thinking they're learning something.
They arent learning shit but horrible habits

>>2804974
This. He's a pleasant guy who goes camping the way he likes it. Terminally online spergs project their own ideals and philosophies about trve soorvivool on him and get mad he doesn't do it sewiously

>>2808637
>I know how rough it csn get to some extent because all of my hunting trips we stay in a cabin with no insulation, water or electricity
we even shit in a bucket

>>2808639
>you have no right to critique someone because it hurts my autism

>>2808642
Cope.

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>>2808643
no i will instead seethe

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>>2808637
>Whatever outdoorfaggot does i dont like it.
>That's it that's the end of it for me.

>Actual mentally retarded people like an autistic person watching him is thinking they're learning something.
>They arent learning shit but horrible habits

Dude exactly.

>>2808639
The issue is that when you frame bad practices as good lessons it will get people hurt. I dont give a shit about him camping just on his own. I give a shit about him speaking authoritatively on stuff he is CLEARLY a beginner at.

>ideals and philosophies about trve soorvivool

You act as if bushcraft hasnt been figured out for 500,000 years+. It's not about "true survival" it's that there are many approved techniques which come from literally tens of thousands of years of combined experience and he's reinventing the wheel instead of learning and teaching those good practices.

Pic related. Do you genuinely think that's an good fire structure that anyone should imitate? It's not like fire making is a new thing at all. Humans have been making fires for a million fkn years (literally).

>Terminally online spergs

Ironically only terminally online spergs would ever even defend him in the first place. No one who actually goes outside and know what they're doing would think anything he's doing has any real merit.

>>2808736
ironically terminally online spergs use v as a replacement for u
no one irl is going to understand meme speak

>>2808736
>Pic related. Do you genuinely think that's an good fire structure that anyone should imitate?
no, it's unsafe there is nothing stopping that fire from escaping and causing a massive brush fire. at least put it underground or surround it with big rocks
lack of firemaking knowledge is the reason some states ban ground fires.
Many people think x or y could survive a fire until it doesnt the fire will just get bigger and hotter

>>2808739
there is also no proper starter
a complete beginner would be workering with hopes and dreams
im not saying to go powermake feather sticks but teaching people to identify what could possibly be used for starter is a good thing like ball moss for example.

>>2808736
>when you frame bad practices as good lessons it will get people hurt.
What's your point? That he has a moral responsibility to show people some approved and loicense'd way of doing things by virtue of having a big audience? What are you gonna do next, wet your panties over the fact that he sets a bad example by eating from plastic containers or not wearing a life jacket when canoeing? You would have a point in your whining if it were the case that he presented himself as a bushcraft or survival guru, but he doesn't. He films himself camping and hiking and simply shows off neat stuff that he likes to do. You're buttmad that people like him even though he's doing things the wrong way (grrrrr!!!) and thus the fake concern

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>>2808639
>>2808736

Just to really drive my point home. Here is a pic with actual good fire structures.

Compare those to his fire structure and you'll see that what he's done is just pile brush randomly.

This is just an example of my issue with the channel. It's not about taking it "seriously" or "true survival" it's about there are just better ways to do shit that have been established for thousands of years and he's either ignorant of those ways or too lazy to actually execute them correctly.

>>2808742
>>2808740(me)
>>2808739(me)
yes these are good like i said earlier.
I mostly go out and di hunting or fishing shit
so i usually use a firepit or something

>>2808743
odd period placement on my part but i hope you get what i mean

>>2808741
>What's your point?

I dont want people to get hurt? He's passing these crap techniques on to his kids and giving them a false sense of confidence about their bush crafting abilities. This is how you end up with a Chris McCandless situation.

>You're buttmad that people like him even though he's doing things the wrong way (grrrrr!!!)

I'm not mad at all. I'm just explaining why it's not a good resource and why I dont find it entertaining.

>and thus the fake concern

Imagine being such a sociopath where something like a basic concern for others well being MUST be couched behind an ulterior motive.

>>2808741
I think it's telling that you believe disagreement implies an emotional response.

As if being angry is a requirement for discourse.

>>2808741
>loicense'd way of doing things

Is such a funny way to describe techniques that are like 500 thousand years old lmfao.

>>2808736
>Do you genuinely think that's an good fire structure that anyone should imitate?
If it burns it burns.

>>2808770
Yea and you can hammer nails with your forehead too that doesnt mean it's a good idea.

>>2808807
Imagine getting angry just because someone doesn't spend time neatly and autistically arranging every stick in their fire.

>>2808838
Not angry, it's inefficient and sloppy. You guys are all so retarded where any disagreement MUST be accompanied by autistic screeching.

You also dont have to be neat about it. It takes me about 30 seconds to make a teepee fire structure. Grab a handful of twigs, snap them in half (one half in each hand) and place them against each other, then do it again on the front and back. Leave a little hole where you can get the tinder in to start it. Tada.

You can stack progressively larger sticks around it before lighting it if you want but you dont have to, you can lay them on it while the fire is starting to build in strength.

You're making out as if it's a detailed and complicated thing to make a decent fire structure when it is literally the most basic crap that even a toddler can accomplish.

>>2808838
I really dont get the point in defending a shitty fire structure when it's so simple to make a decent one.

>>2808972
>>2808973
Why does it matter? If it burns and provides heat, it's good enough.

>>2808973
because he has nothing else to do?
if he actually went outside we wouldnt even be having this conversation because he wouldnt care he'd just go for a walk or someshit or plan his next trip.
it's too easy to pretend to be an outdoorsman.

>>2808989
I stg the more you defend this crap the more I'm sure that it's just Luke on here defending himself.

>Why is doing a shitty job of something bad?

Hur dur duhhhhh I dont know.

I've said this multiple times but I guess I'll reiterate for the 5th time: His content has poor techniques so it doesnt act as a good resource (which is the primary reason I watch survivalist content) and because I know better watching him do crappy methods is cringe and unwatchable.

>Why does it matter? If it burns and provides heat, it's good enough.

I know you're being rhetorical but I'm just gonna answer you legitimately because I have a feeling you dont actually know the answer to that question.

A well made fire will light easier, burn more efficiently, be warmer and less smoky than a poorly made one. This is because when the fuel is placed more densely the flammable gasses (which are what actually burn) are being ignited instead of being released into the sky (essentially wasting the fuel). By being compact and orienting the wood effectively you can ensure that when you light the fire the material is close to the kindling which means the wood will be heated continually and so the fire can continue to spread consistently. The result is it will require less tending for the wood to set alight and establish your bed of coals.

Note the shape of a fire and the shape of a well made fire structure. You will note they both form points. This means when you light the fire because heat rises it will dry the wood and spread automatically which is particularly important when trying to start fires with wet wood or while it is raining. This is why the teepee is the most classic/widely used fire structure.

So as you see there are real and legitimate reasons to make a fire structure which is why they are considered to be a tried and true time tested method of starting a fire.

There is no such thing as "good enough" it can always be better and I will always strive for that. Good day.

>>2809007
The fact I'm having to explain why a 500,000 year old technique is worthwhile makes me think he's just trolling.

Next he'll have me explaining why we make shelters lol

>>2809022
and that's another thing.
no one is saying to master the 5 gorgillion year old technique
just to become familiar with it so you can make something similar

>>2809007
Why would I go outside when it's -30?
>>2809018
>There is no such thing as "good enough" it can always be better and I will always strive for that. Good day.
That's your problem. For most people there is absolutely a "good enough" and almost nobody is going to waste time perfecting their fire structure to make the most efficient fire possible, because that is fucking autistic.
Normal people just throw shit in a pit and burn it. If it doesn't light we douse it with lighter fluid or gasoline to get it going.
>>2809022
>>2809024
Nobody has explained why it is actually important to make sure your fire structure is pro bushcrafter-approved, other than "i-it's more efficient and wastes less fuel!" as if firewood isn't plentiful as fuck.

>>2809030
>That's your problem. For most people there is absolutely a "good enough"

Yes, I like to push myself to continually get better at skills. What an autist I am.

>almost nobody is going to waste time perfecting their fire structure to make the most efficient fire possible

It's not about "most effcient fire possible" it's "not a random pile of bullshit on the ground" lmfao. It takes all of 30 seconds to make a passable fire structure. I just cannot stress how basic making a fire is. It's a skill everyone should have by the age of 10.

>Normal people just throw shit in a pit and burn it.

Normal people know how to make fire structures. I dont know a single person irl who doesnt know how to make a fire.

> If it doesn't light we douse it with lighter fluid or gasoline to get it going.

Yes and I can do that too. That doesnt supersede having basic skills like making a fire. What was your plan if you had no gasoline? Hope it spontaneously combusts?

>make sure your fire structure is pro bushcrafter-approved

That's the funniest part is I'm hardly a pro bush crafter. Fire making is basic basic basic shit. It is one of the simplest and most common skills on the planet. That is why I'm pointing it out actually...

>as if firewood isn't plentiful as fuck.

You've never made a fire in the rain apparently. Yea no shit in perfect conditions nothing is a problem. There are places like the desert where wood isnt super plentiful.

>it's more efficient and wastes less fuel

I like how you pretend this isnt a legitimate reason at all. Why are you so adamantly Pro-Shitty fires? It's such an insane hill to die on when fire making is such a basic skill.

Waste less fuel = spend less time walking around gathering fuel = burning less calories = your food goes further. Pretty important when you're camping.

Are you going to ask me why food is important next? Or is it "food is common" and "most people just ask their mom to make them tendies" lmfao

>>2809035
>What was your plan if you had no gasoline?
Use some other fire starter. Those foam cube things work pretty well.
Or are you saying everyone should know how to make a fire by spending hours rubbing sticks together, too?
>You've never made a fire in the rain apparently. Yea no shit in perfect conditions nothing is a problem. There are places like the desert where wood isnt super plentiful.
Making a fire in the rain = add more gasoline.
I don't camp in the desert. Why would I? Sounds fucking awful.
>Waste less fuel = spend less time walking around gathering fuel = burning less calories = your food goes further. Pretty important when you're camping.
It's important if you're SURVIVING. Camping (even bushcraft camping) =/= survival. When I go camping I have a cooler full of food and if I run out, I go into town and buy more.
>Are you going to ask me why food is important next? Or is it "food is common" and "most people just ask their mom to make them tendies" lmfao
I'm going to ask you why you think camping is the same thing as surviving in the wild. Because for 99% of people, it isn't. It's a vacation, not a survivalist LARP.

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>>2809037
>are you saying everyone should know how to make a fire by spending hours rubbing sticks together, too

Lmfao it takes like 2 minutes to start a fire with a bow drill. I mean they should probably be aware of the techniques yea. Hand drill isnt exactly rocket science dude. Personally I just use a lighter but why not at least be familiar with the methods (Pic Related)? What benefit is ignorance?

>It's important if you're SURVIVING. Camping (even bushcraft camping) =/= survival.

You've never been backpacking either apparently. It has nothing to do with survival.

>I'm going to ask you why you think camping is the same thing as surviving in the wild.

Again: Backpacking. When you're hiking something like the AT or Long Trail you cant just run down to the store to get more food, you have to ration it between stops.

>I go into town and buy more.
>I don't camp in the desert.
>Why would I go outside when it's -30?

We arent even talking about you. You seem to really struggle to comprehend that other people have different experiences than you. Not everyone is you lol we are all different people with different interests.

>for 99% of people, it isn't.

You like to argue from the Bandwagon logical fallacy. It seems like you believe everyone else in the world has the same thoughts, opinions and experiences as you which just isnt the case my man.

>It's a vacation, not a survivalist LARP.

Therefore survival skills are unimportant? Lmfao. 10/10 solid argument.

>>2809042
>Lmfao it takes like 2 minutes to start a fire with a bow drill. I mean they should probably be aware of the techniques yea. Hand drill isnt exactly rocket science dude. Personally I just use a lighter but why not at least be familiar with the methods (Pic Related)? What benefit is ignorance?
What benefit is there to spending hours learning how to make a bow drill and getting your hands covered in blisters?
>You've never been backpacking either apparently. It has nothing to do with survival.
No, I don't go backpacking.
>Again: Backpacking. When you're hiking something like the AT or Long Trail you cant just run down to the store to get more food, you have to ration it between stops.
Sounds like a pretty awful experience, honestly.
>We arent even talking about you. You seem to really struggle to comprehend that other people have different experiences than you. Not everyone is you lol we are all different people with different interests.
>You like to argue from the Bandwagon logical fallacy. It seems like you believe everyone else in the world has the same thoughts, opinions and experiences as you which just isnt the case my man.
Yeah, you're the one who doesn't seem to understand that. You see a guy having fun in the woods and get mad because he's not catering to your interests (learning survival skills) while dismissing the idea that anyone could possibly watch this kind of content for pure entertainment rather than education.
>Therefore survival skills are unimportant? Lmfao. 10/10 solid argument.
Correct, survival skills are indeed unimportant for the vast majority of campers.

>>2802744
Fag detected.

>>2802744
>born gay
Back to plebbit with your retarded ass

>>2805799
>nudists are much worse, and unironically deserve death.
What about public masterbators? Where do they fall on the life death scale?

>>2809043
>spending hours learning how to make a bow drill

Why would it take hours? Here is a 15 minute video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bThu0sLiDQ

>getting your hands covered in blisters?

Oh, you're a pussy. This is all making way more sense. Give your balls a tug hahahaha.

>Sounds like a pretty awful experience, honestly

hahahahahahhahahahaha, yea dude just stfu. You're clearly a gigantic chicken shit.

>You see a guy having fun in the woods and get mad

Not mad at all. You guys always project that shit as if the only way someone could disagree with something is if they're upset. It's so fkn autistic. What I'm ACTUALLY doing is pointing out that the content is not for me and why.

>while dismissing the idea that anyone could possibly watch this kind of content for pure entertainment

Not dismissing it, I'm saying the only people who would find it entertaining simply dont know any better. To me it's cringe.

>survival skills are indeed unimportant for the vast majority of campers.

Yes well the vast majority of campers already know how to make a fire structure since it is such a basic skill. My advice to you is just stay in the city because you're ngmi anywhere else.

>>2808248
>make a fire, spread out the coals and then sleep on top of it
I've done that on a beach and it works, you left out the part about burying the coals.

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>>2809050
Could be. Could be.

If he mentioned that then I cant hold it against him. I'm sure I never finished the video once he mentioned sleeping on coals. Maybe I have it all wrong and he's actually super skilled.

I found it and he does mention it in the video so I'm wrong in this instance. Maybe I will be forced by my principles into giving him a second shot even if his shelters and fires do suck.

>pic related: me when he said to bury the coals

>>2809052
I understand your frustration and think he's a total retard who's going to get himself killed at some point.

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>>2809037
>Camping (even bushcraft camping) =/= survival

Homeless people?

>>2809067
That's what Steve Wallis is for.

>>2809049
>Oh, you're a pussy. This is all making way more sense. Give your balls a tug hahahaha.
>hahahahahahhahahahaha, yea dude just stfu. You're clearly a gigantic chicken shit.
It's kinda funny that you think going outside is some kind of manly toughness competition.
>What I'm ACTUALLY doing is pointing out that the content is not for me and why.
No, you're saying anyone who finds it entertaining is ignorant:
>I'm saying the only people who would find it entertaining simply dont know any better

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>>2809071
>It's kinda funny that you think going outside is some kind of manly toughness competition.

Dude you dont wanna learn to use a bow drill because it will give you blisters. It's not about going outside or a competition. It's about inventing bitch ass reasons not to learn something.

You're saying "Well having an efficient fire doesnt matter because backpacking sounds like it's not fun" which doesnt even address the point.

The fact you dont wanna learn a skill JUST IN CASE you get a blister is bitch made plain and simple. I'm not MORE manly for knowing this crap because I learned it as a literal child (how can I be manly for something I learned when I wasnt yet a man?) You're just LESS manly for refusing to learn it on the off chance you get a blister.

It's not a competition, it's just the facts. Sorry whoever raised you didnt teach you how to be a man and made you into a pussy instead. It must suck.

>you're saying anyone who finds it entertaining is ignorant

Yes and I stand by that. It's only entertaining if you dont know better. If you know better it's hard to watch.

No one can force you to learn shit but then you cant turn around and then being like "b-but you're calling us ignorant" like yea, no shit: You ARE ignorant. If that hurts your feelings then why not learn this basic shit? Oh right. The blisters.

>HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>2809071
>>2809077

This is all made funnier by the fact that the person who taught me how to use a bow drill was a 60 something year old woman. I just cant imagine ever being like "I dont wanna do it because I MIGHT get a blister" to an ancient woman.

>>2809077
>>2809079
Your mistake is thinking that I care whether or not I'm perceived as manly or tough.
I go outside to have fun. That's it. I don't think that using a bow drill to make a fire is fun - the blisters are one part of that, yes - so why would I bother to learn it?

>>2809085
>Your mistake is thinking that I care whether or not I'm perceived as manly or tough.

You're not. It's not a perception, it's more of a trait inherent to your character.

>I go outside to have fun. That's it.

No one gives a shit because this thread isnt about you.

>I don't think that using a bow drill to make a fire is fun

You dont think much at all I reckon.

>the blisters are one part of that

YOU DONT GET BLISTERS USING A BOW DRILL YOU PAPER HANDED FUCKING RETARD. YOU'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT ISNT REAL: LIKE. A. BITCH.

Fuckin A dude... you act like using a bow drill is actual manual labor or that blisters even matter. Just rip them the fuck off.

>why would I bother to learn it?

Apparently you wouldnt. You'd just make up bullshit excuses why it's too hard for you.

>>2808736
>He's being irresponsible and is gonna get people killed!
>I mean come on, who in their right mind would make a pile of sticks like this!
>If you pile sticks like this and film yourself and encourage people to go outside you should KILL YOURSELF
Dude I think you should have been beat up more in middle school

>>2809119
I dont have any issues with Luke himself nor anyone who piles up sticks the wrong way. I dont want him to die? I am expressly saying I wish they had better habits that would give him a far greater chance at surviving -_-#

I think it's pigheaded to not learn new skills over superficial wounds.

>Dude I think you should have been beat up more in middle school

Love you too bud.

>>2809118
>You're not. It's not a perception, it's more of a trait inherent to your character.
Again, I don't care.
>No one gives a shit because this thread isnt about you.
Nor is it about you, but that didn't stop you from bitching about people enjoying things you don't like.
>Fuckin A dude... you act like using a bow drill is actual manual labor or that blisters even matter. Just rip them the fuck off.
That is excruciatingly painful so I'd rather not do that.

>>2809170
>that didn't stop you from bitching about people enjoying things you don't like.

I'm not though. I'm explaining why I dont like the channel and then calling you a pussy.

>That is excruciatingly painful so I'd rather not do that.

You're such a child it's actually funny.

>>2808247
Yeah the reddit spacing ain't selling it, chang

>>2809209
>I'm not though. I'm explaining why I dont like the channel and then calling you a pussy.
You're bitching about it and calling anyone who finds it entertaining ignorant, because you cannot fathom that anyone would enjoy this type of content purely for entertainment value and not as a way to learn bushcraft and survival.
>You're such a child it's actually funny.
Avoiding pain and injury is childish?

>>2809256
>Avoiding pain and injury is childish?
No, but using it's potential as a reason not to learn something is. It's not a guarantee you're gonna get a blister so all your boo hooing is all for fucking naught.

I can fathom it. I've explained my opinion you can REEEEE all you'd like but it is what it is.

>>2805557
beat me to it

curried carp

Yeah idk. I watch some of his videos and while they're decent they're by no means "survivalist".
>imma build a shelter
>imma use dried up leaves and sticks for a roof hope my fire doesn't light it on fire lol
it's decent for entertainment, but god help anyone who takes it as actual bushcraft and tries to replicate it. Some of his videos are alright, but it's mostly family camping/traveling videos and some dude camping and stuffing his face lmao. He also brings like a shit ton of gear, food, tools, etc for like a 1-2 day trip which eh... I'm not saying don't do it if you enjoy it, but peddling it as survival or bushcraft is just kinda dishonest

>>2810678
That one time he took his kids into the bayou with a hammock overnight and got eaten alive by bugs. Hahaha he’s pretty based.

>>2810678
When did he ever claim he was a survival/bushcraft expert? The dude is just doing what he loves and sharing whatever knowledge he has.

luke is extremely based and he causes massive seething from internet retards that have never gone outside
bet you took the toddler catching video seriously

>>2811667
people that go outside dont use the word based

>>2811684
Put the whole board on clutch

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>>2808742
none of those are good lays
the only lay you need is the siberian log fire
its relatively easy, very low maintenance, will last all night, will project heat in one direction, you can even modulate its intensity by adjusting the splay

>>2802550
Kid probably lived in that area for years. What's the big deal?

Stick him in an urban environment and he gets raped by niggers. And vice versa, some 12 year old kid living near niggers probably knows how to avoid them while living near them, but stick him in the Alaskan wilderness and he freezes to death.

>>2808248
>Even dual survival would be a better resource
Hey! The first season with Cody Lundin and Dave Canterbury was legit. Yeah after that it got kinda retarded

>>2802550
I miss going camping like this with my dad, we would spend a week off in the middle of nowhere checking out abandoned mines and just wandering in the high country. Great times that had to end when 08 - 09 happened.

>wifeman Mormon who buys toys and plays outside is based
I credit him with being a lawyer about the outdoors. That is, he knows how to do lots of research and retain the information. This is more than can be said for most retards who think they belong outdoors. He also knows how to stay calm and solve problems, and he doesn't seem to complain much when everything goes to shit. He is also very practical about food, which is to say, demands to eat like a Mormon no matter where he goes. No harm no foul. He can also work with his hands, also a good trait. But any video with his family is the gayest shit in the world and if you act this way, you're gay too.

>>2809035
Correct according to the letter but not the spirit. He has never failed to make a fire. Some retard above, maybe you, spoke about one of his piles being potentially dangerous and which might cause a forest fire, in place that's completely wet. Again, correct according to the letter but not the spirit.
>You've never made a fire in the rain apparently
This kind of thing only seems to be complicated if you're kind of stupid or pretending to know more than you do. Fires in the rain, unless it's absolutely torrential, are no harder than snow. What about when it's windy?
Either way, none of this matters. He is clearly a guy who does "entertainment camping". He isn't a survivalist. He is someone with many toys, conveniences, and tools. He has moderate knowledge of his surroundings, he knows where to set up camp, he has the tools in case of emergencies, escape plans when too many things fail, means to contact the outside world, and so on. He is not pretending to be anything more than an avid camper. If you're taking this guy's advice for survival situations, you deserve to lose a limb or die.

>>2805576
You were raised by a smartphone and your parents didn't love you.

>>2802744
10/10 bait however for anyone reading, by birthrate alone they will exist and continue to expand 100 years from now, the rest of secular 'polite society' will voluntarily choose to commit demographic suicide

>>2812476
It's true. Utah is the fastest growing state, and that's a good thing.