Anyone use dog hiking packs? What do you bring along?
>>2834654Dogs aren't meant to carry weight like that. If you need things for your dog, carry those things in your pack. Don't be a bitch.
I thought dogs had less stamina than people, wouldn't weighing them down pretty much guarantee they won't make it as far as you could?
>>2834655>it's not natural!because a primate carrying things in a backpack is a totally natural phenomenon, right?
>>2834654My dog just carries his kibble, bowls, and dog bags. Total weight is usually 3.5 kilos, which is a good weight for him (dog weighs 15 kilos). We train too little for me to risk him carrying more than that. To my mind it makes sense: If we're going somewhere he needs his pack, it's already further than we usually go, so it's better he doesn't carry a too heavy pack.>>2834656You might need to plan some extra rests for the dog's sake, but they can be trained to do very well indeed. It also depends on the breed and pack weight.
>>2834682Primates are carrying their babies on their back or front. So, I'd argue that it's partly natural. For humans, due to our bipedal upright walking nature, carrying things in backpacks or similar is a natural development of that instinct and also because it's mechanically the easiet way to carry things. Humans have the capability to squat with hundreds of pounds because the body can support it. Of course, it's not really natural to carry excessive weights and it can be damaging to joints and the spine, especially when running and doing it frequently, like in the military.
>>2834655Yeah dogs are pack animals, make them all carry the load.
>>2834721They're pulling the weight which is a natural motion, not carrying it.
>>2834654Does a cat count?
>>2834655Actually people have tried it and it turns out it's fine but good lookin' out!
>>2834820cat doesn't look it enjoys hiking
>>2834655Oh boy I can't wait for UL larpers to come screaming and crying in here about this
When do people finally realise nature is riddled with compromise. Something being natural is not the same as something being optimal. Evolution is a permanent and ongoing process, never finished and adaption is never universally perfect. Go eat natural food if you think it was. And yes that means no squash, no bell peppers, no banana, no carrot, hardly any cereal, no kale, no domesticated pork, no domesticated cattle, no modern apple... the list is endless.The supoosed 'argument' people are making when evaluating nutrition, movement, behaviour, social interaction, sleep patterns, sex, dwellings or whatever else by investigating it's 'naturality' is worthless and not an argument.
>>2834721>>2834723Sled dogs all have fucked up hips after a while. It's sad.
>>2834714>dog bags Cuck
>>2834654Yes, I love mine. It gives you back so much valuable pack space. The handle on your dog is also really useful when navigating mountains.1) make sure the weight is over their front paws and not over their back2) keep the weight light. ~10% of their body weight for longer hikes, 15% for shorter hikes, and 20% for really short distances.My 100lb shephard usually gets loaded with just his food, bowls, treats etc. Sometimes I'll give him 2L of water (one bladder in each side) for the last few kms until camp but that would be too much weight to carry all day.He has a ruffwear pack that's seen at least 5000km of hiking and it's held up really really well.
>>2834714I misread that as "My dog just carries his bible, bowls, and dog bags."
>dog bagsYeah I'll just load my setter up so he gets caught up in the brush when combing for birds.Just carry the extra 4 or whatevee pounds your dog needs it's not hard.
>>2834934>Go eat natural foodbitch you mean primordial soup?
>>2834654People with pets are losers.
>>2834820you're gonna loose him dude
>>2838004Had to put my old cat down yesterday and I agree
