In my heart there are two men. The first is primal and wild, a forest dweller living in defiance of nature as a triumphant victor of resource conquest. He can build fire with his hands, slay prey, and reroute river systems. The second owes the bank money and wage slaves away to live a dull, unadventurous, and sterile, life completely devoid of exuberance and vitality. Anons in similar spirits, how do you cope?
>>2836366Jesus fuckin Christ, dude. Go outside.
awesome another laper threadwhats your favorite trail
>>2836373The one that leads to your mom’s taint.
>>2836374mr primal and wild cannot name one trail
>>2836366>living in defiance of naturefucking retard
>>2836377Would naming a trail make you any less of a gatekeeping cunt?
>>2836378Nature is to be defied and subjugated, it is at war with our very existence and in direct opposition to our wills.
>>2836366Funny you use an image of one of the most visited city parks in the usa, millions a year, with paved paths and even a road through that people use for segwey tours
>>2836366If this was true you'd just ditch the second one. Whatever you owe, they wont start a manhunt over it.
>>2836385>it is at war with our very existence>tiny brainNature is why you exist. You are nature. Without Nature you die. Probably for the best.
>>2836366In Ireland we have what's referred to as"no wilderness" where the furthest you can get from a house is like 3.5-7 km (2-4 miles). Honestly wish they just made all of our national parks forestry and banned commercial woods.
>>2836423nature is constant rolling directionless chaos, stop anthropomorphizing it, love it for what it is because it will never love you back.
>>2836384Gatekeeping is a good thing.
>>2836366>In my heart there are two men fag
>>2836423>you are natureWhich is precisely why one should revolt against it. Your very body betrays you with age and cell divisions slow down causing healing to be less effective. Nature is not this purple breathing, hunky dory, yuppie, chaco sandal wearing, granola munching, moisture wicking package of nurturing consideration. This bitch is trying to turn everything into mushroom food and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
>>2836366the second one is the real you, the first one is LARP and cope
>>2836514Yes but how does that guy cope? Find a new hobby? Let the bank repossess his home and live in a van down by the river? Does he buy a hand crank coffee grinder and make mean pour over coffees or does he just buy the breeville?
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>>2836366think i coped pretty well>total debt and wage slave>look for rural houses in the area i usually do most of my outings>find one for 50k>contact bank, despite me being over my head in debt the current market value of my apartment ment they gave me 50k finance on said house and another 30k in cash>buy house>put up apartment for sale>use some of the additional 30k to buy van, tools etc to start on my own>quit my job but on good terms with them so they hire me back regulary>apartment got sold at such price i got another 40k in cash after having paid down all debt>tfw debt free house owner with 3 cars and all tools imaginable and actually a good reputation in the field so jobs keep coming, not that i need them so much nowit can be done, it might just take some years.
>>2836596and the part i forgot to mention, i got roe deer, moose and reindeer in my garden, i got a fantastic view, i can hike from my home, river to fish in is 500m away, i can tow my boat to one of the 8 lakes from 5 to 30 min drive away if i dont carry my packraft somewhere off the road path to a multitude of small lakes or rivers. there is people around im not totally isolated and i have internet, either 5g or fiber, currently on 5g. jobs is anything from 10min to 1,5h drive away but so where they when i lived in the city only now there is no rush hour only reindeers camping on the road.
>>2836366I have simmilar feeling but the second one is elegant man who wants to make shitton of money. A whole different persona. Are both versions real us, or one is a cope? How do we know which one
>>2836605What do you do for living anon?
>>2836768refrigeration tech and installer. there are stores here, there are business and industry. they might have brand name chain deals buy in the end when shit hits the fan im closer than any guy from their office. i did a callout today, its 1,5h drive for me and i replaced a relay, it would be 6h drive for them.350€ before tax and parts and i got to do some shopping as well and its the most comfy drive imaginable with a great view most of the way.
>>2836386but just imagine what it would be like if you visited there in like 1840.
>>2836784Yea getting scalped by comanche sounds lovely
>>2836366>how do you cope?I bought land.Built a cabin.Left that urbanite douche bag version of myself behind.Suck it up buttercup.Shit in a bucket until your wageslave paycheck can afford a septic system.>I did it for 3 years My grandfather brought home (2) 5 gallon jugs of fresh water to his family of 6 every day- to a house he built with his own hands back in the 60's because it didnt have running water.Thats not some bullshit story.That actually happened.Just fucking do it bro.
>>2836366Imagine unironically posting something like this. Has to be a trolling attempt. Has to be.
>>2836366>In my heart there are two men.Both are gay.You are gay.
>>2836366Any city wagie who glamorizes wild living should try sleeping on their floor for starters. There are no mattresses in the wild.
>>2836366I fucked a blonde girl just to the left of this pic (garden of the gods)
>>2836366There are none of what you described anymore. Not in 1st world countries anyway. We are all products of our time. We aren't tribals anymore dude, get over it.
>>2836427>stop anthropomorphizing itspoken like a true christcuck.
>>2838090>sleeping on their floorfunny i came to that same conclusion years ago. overly cushy mattresses are for soft lazy people anyway
>>2839226>>stop eating McDonalds everyday fatty.>REEEE! ONLY a BURGERKINGIGGER WOULD Say that!!!1111no retard, magic isn't real, stop looking for substitutes for your vanished dad and your negligent whore of a mother.
>>2839229i think ill put my trust in the efficacy of a millenia year old magico-religious system rooted in place, over a >2000 yr old desert rat cult that has nothing to offer
>>2839230let's be fair, the version of Christianity you use is 90% less than 100 years old and what parts are older have been pick-and-choose to gratify changing modern tastes, and yes that includes 1st world Catholicism too.
>>2839234Marcion was right
>>2836366Back to plebbit, larper. If you could do half of that, you wouldn't be indebted.And for all the kiddos reading this thread and now considering suicide: It's not that hard. I live halfway off the land myself, and know a lot of guys doing the same, and we've all gone through more or less the same steps:>finish school, get some further educationuniversity in my case (high IQ and scholarship, would've been stupid not to), but most did tradie stuff where they got paid for learning.>lived with grandparents, or in some cases, parents for the first few years while earning starting money>buy beehives, woodland, orchards or grassland, or a combination thereof, then make some money on the side from thatIt's not much, especially while working, but having 200€ or so extra a month gets you a bit further, and more importantly, any food you harvest yourself, you don't have to buy.>at 25-30, buy a house with a large garden, usually from grandparents (or their heirs, if they've already died), sometimes friends, and in one case a coworker of mine helped some old guy with houserepairs a few times, and then got that guys house for 1€ shortly before his death, just so the kids who'd neglected him wouldn't get itGenerally in the hinterlands, where houses are cheaper - in my case, I got a bit lucky, and by next year (once the inheritance stuff is settled), can buy my dead grandmas farm right at the edge of the forest, where all the tourists go.>at this point, some debt is to be expected, but it's usually at a level where it can be paid off in 5 years or so, and you've already got a house, large garden, and the farming / logging operation you started earlier. Pay off the debt, while increasing the size of your farming. If like me, you're in a tourist area, consider renting for some extra cashBy 35 at the latest, you can be independent, and fully living of the land.My current situation (29yo):20 beehives, ~3k€ per year23 fruit trees10 chickens5000m2 garden
>>2836513Yeah, and that's a good thing. Feverish attempts to prolong life are the ultimate futility. Might as well embrace your decline and try to live moderately healthy so you don't suffer more than necessary.
>>2836427>nature is constant rolling directionless chaos, stop anthropomorphizing it,Nature can be tamed. It was given to man by God, and all the creatures that crawl, swim or fly are for my to own. The land can be stripped, shaped, molded, and contained into man's desire and whim. It only exists for our pleasure, profit and consumption. Reread Genesis and become closer to The Truth:>Genesis 1:28 (KJV): "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth".
>>2839250Gee I'll just make myself 10 years younger and pick up a pair of rich grandparents at the storeAll my problems are solved thanks anon